Hi I need some help. Went driving back from portsmouth today (135 miles) car was running fine then for no reason 5 miles from home she just died im thinking there might be a problem with the immobiliser. she turns other but no spark
Any help appreciated.
Starting to come to the end of my tether with her now, if i hadnt invested so much money into her i think i would have taken a hammer to her.
Thanks
Lee
Quote from: lee millsHi I need some help. Went driving back from portsmouth today (135 miles) car was running fine then for no reason 5 miles from home she just died im thinking there might be a problem with the immobiliser. she turns other but no spark
Any help appreciated.
Starting to come to the end of my tether with her now, if i hadnt invested so much money into her i think i would have taken a hammer to her.
Thanks
Lee
first thing i would do mate would be to take the immobiliser out of the loop and then re try either that or pay a specialist to check if the immobiliser is working properly. after that you are into componant and wiring loom/ecu connection checking.
quick question what ecu are you using?? if you have the apexi with the commander there are lots of probs that can be identified with that. it recently helped me diagnose a voltage iregularity in my water temp sensor causing my rex to run like a bag of nails saving me loads of hassle and time.
ive never heard of a immobiliser operating or activating while car is running
only one is blackjax by clifford..i think problem maybe elsewhere..check connection to ecu/battery and any other place car recieves power.do the dash light come on when u turn key..i would also check the idle control valve and the throttle position sensor
EGI fuse?
That feeds spark and fuel injectors - so car will still turn over if it\'s blown.
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That feeds spark and fuel injectors - so car will still turn over if it\'s blown.
Where is this located
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Lee
Quote from: lee millsWhere is this located
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Lee
Fuses on the side of the battery terminal, its in there marked EGI. 3rd one from the top.
I have taken egi fuse out seems fine.when i first went out to car today apexi came up to monitor screen but battery was dead. stuck battery on charge now apexi just says apexi and dosent go any further (i.e to monitor screen). Also when you turn it other its just clicking. Has anyone got any ideas
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Lee
Clean the battery terminals and make sure they are on properly.. :2Rolleyes
the clicking noise is because the battery is dead
as laaeq has said make sure battery connections are sound and battery is fully charged
now im really confused. bought a new bateery and checked all terminals. car started revved up for about a minute then it just died again. managed to get it started once more for about 30 seconds loads of white smoke to begin with then it just died again. surely its got to be aloose connection somewhere.
any ideas where to start looking
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Lee
check your coil pack dude...does it just turn over as though its flooded?
sorry my last post was a bit vague. To check my coils (ill assume for now its your leading coil which needs checking as thats the one which fires the car), pull out the ignition lead from one of the leading plugs. Put a really long (about 40cm is the one i use) screwdriver inside the lead and then rest it against the suspension turret. Then turn the car over on the starter motor and look for the spark jumping from the screwdriver to the Inner wing. If it does, then that coil is ok. If it dont, you more than likely got a knackered coil. The white smoke is probably cos its flooded
did your apexi start to work when you had it running??? if you get it running again check the voltage at the battery to see if you are getting a charge from the alternator if its not charging at all it would explain when the engine cut out and the battery going flat. also would explain rough running etc if the new battery had low charge it will give you weak spark and low fuel pump pressure.
Quote from: Jitsorry my last post was a bit vague. To check my coils (ill assume for now its your leading coil which needs checking as thats the one which fires the car), pull out the ignition lead from one of the leading plugs. Put a really long (about 40cm is the one i use) screwdriver inside the lead and then rest it against the suspension turret. Then turn the car over on the starter motor and look for the spark jumping from the screwdriver to the Inner wing. If it does, then that coil is ok. If it dont, you more than likely got a knackered coil. The white smoke is probably cos its flooded
Just tried this no spark so i assume the coil is knackered so the next question is where is this located on the car and where do i get a new one from
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Lee
YOu need to remove the plenum to get to the coil pack. Once the plenum is off, its easy to see how to replace it. Rx motors is a good bet for stuff like that. Alternatively, I got a decent coil pack in my shed.
While u are there, check your trailing coils as well. If you can, check for 12v going into the coils.
The only bit that worries/confuses me is when the car will start the apexi commander shows up with monitor settings eg boost air temp etc. when it wont the commander just says apexi is this right if the coil is fubbered
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Lee
check your getting 12v at the ignitor... i dont know what happens if your Crank angle sensors go down,,,whether it causes this?
now im getting more confused I know its a question of eliminating these things but its so frustrating
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Lee
anything else i should be checking for. Im starting to think this car hates me ive had her for 15 months spent a fortune on her and i think ive only had about 2/3 weeks worth of enjoyment out of her since october. seems like every time i take her out something else goes wrong with . I am seriosly contemplating selling her when shes fixed as im getting fed up and paranoid with the car. Ive nicknamed her christine now:rollin
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Lee
basically, as long as youve tested it right, then youre not getting any spark to start the car. Now im just trying to see if youre getting reference from the crank angle sensors.
Does your rev needle sort of flicker as youre turning her over? (its only a minute flicker...but a flicker nonetheless)..
Quote from: Jitbasically, as long as youve tested it right, then youre not getting any spark to start the car. Now im just trying to see if youre getting reference from the crank angle sensors.
Does your rev needle sort of flicker as youre turning her over? (its only a minute flicker...but a flicker nonetheless)..
I will check this in a minute
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Lee
Quote from: Jitbasically, as long as youve tested it right, then youre not getting any spark to start the car. Now im just trying to see if youre getting reference from the crank angle sensors.
Does your rev needle sort of flicker as youre turning her over? (its only a minute flicker...but a flicker nonetheless)..
Just checked this and nothing happens
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Lee
are you getting 12v at the ignitor connector on cranking?
Quote from: Jitare you getting 12v at the ignitor connector on cranking?
Not sure how to check this
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Lee
pull the connector off the ignitor and check for 12v at the connector while cranking.
Quote from: Jitpull the connector off the ignitor and check for 12v at the connector while cranking.
Sorry for being dumb but how do you do this in leymans term
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Lee
give me a bell dude..
will get a multi meter tommorow and check this out. If anybody else has any ideas it would be much appreciated
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Lee
Almost sorted now .well after a 300 mile round trip to rx motors to check old ecu and then supply new one. then over to reworx to put the map on it that they did on saturday looks like im 95% there got home fired her up & took her for a blast. couple of niggling things to sort out but i will speak to Tim about them tommorow.
Forgot to say that the car made 469.2 FWHP on saturday:driving which i was well happy with
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Lee
P.S Thanks to JIT for trying to help aswell
for future reference, if the car is immobalised, the car will not crank :)