Basicaly my interior isn\'t in the best shape with scratches on many of the plastics. I don\'t really want to pay out for buying new or even second hand plastics, i was wondering about rubbing them down and respraying them. I\'m not really into colour coding it with body work or anything like that just want to make it matt or satin black. Any help would be appreciated i basicaly want to know is it possible to get a nice looking durable finish with paint and how to do it?
Have a read of this mate, should inspire you a bit :)
http://www.torquecars.com/styling/plastic-painting.php (http://www.torquecars.com/styling/plastic-painting.php)
or just carbon fibre overlay them - here\'s a few bits ive done for my fto
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/markj113/finish2-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/markj113/armrest.jpg)
can post a quick "how to" if your interested. basically uses carbon cloth and resin.
Quote from: markj113or just carbon fibre overlay them - here\'s a few bits ive done for my fto
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/markj113/finish2-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/markj113/armrest.jpg)
can post a quick "how to" if your interested. basically uses carbon cloth and resin.
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If you could also where do you get the cloth & resin from
Thanks
Lee
get my resin here -
http://www.cfsnet.co.uk/acatalog/CFS_Catalogue__Silmar_Surfboard_Resin_138.html (http://www.cfsnet.co.uk/acatalog/CFS_Catalogue__Silmar_Surfboard_Resin_138.html)
they also do carbon cloth -
http://www.cfsnet.co.uk/cgi-local/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ecfsnet%2eco%2euk%2facatalog%2fCFS_Catalogue__Silmar_Surfboard_Resin_138%2ehtml&WD=carbon&PN=CFS_Catalogue__Carbon_Fibre_Fabric_311%2ehtml%23a1055#a1055 (http://www.cfsnet.co.uk/cgi-local/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ecfsnet%2eco%2euk%2facatalog%2fCFS_Catalogue__Silmar_Surfboard_Resin_138%2ehtml&WD=carbon&PN=CFS_Catalogue__Carbon_Fibre_Fabric_311%2ehtml%23a1055#a1055)
you can also get the cloth on ebay but make sure they roll it and not fold it as otherwise it ruins the weave pattern of the cloth.
Timmy, if carbon isnt your thing, have a look at this tread (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6894&highlight=interior). It should give you all the details and links you should need.
Fish
I would be intersted in a "how to" if you have time :Thumbs-up
here\'s the guide - a mix of my work and tusker\'s on the ftooc
Here\'s a guide on how to carbon overlay parts of your car.
You will need the following parts -
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Carbon cloth (twil looks best)
resin
acetone (if u want to clean your brushes - i use cheap ones and bin them)
plenty of latex gloves
mixing pots
measuring jug
syringe (for measuring hardner)
masking tape
Sharp scissors
Some stirrers - I use wooded spatulars
emery cloth
wet n dry 400grit to 1200 grit
polish
1) measure up your carbon cloth for the piece to be covered. Then using the masking tape tape up both sides where you intend to cut the cloth to prevent pulling the weave then cut through the middle of the tape -
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/markj113/Carbonoverlay1.jpg)
2) Prep your piece to be overlayed - it should be black, if its not spray it up first so a colour doesnt show through the weave. It also needs a rub down with emery cloth.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/markj113/Carbonoverlay5-1.jpg)
3) brush a thin layer of resin mixed with 1% harder over the part to be overlayed then press the carbon cloth gently into place and tape up to the rear of the part to pull it into shape. You may need to change your gloves often so you dont pull the weave. Leave to dry for approx 45mins
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/markj113/sill1.jpg)
4) Start building up thing layers of resin, you will need approx 5 layers to prevent breaking through to the cloth when sanding down. Each additional layer should be added after around 7 mins when the previous layer turns to a jelly consistency. You will now need to leave it for 1 week to fully cure -
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/markj113/finish1.jpg)
5) you will now need to trim the excess cloth off - best tool I found was a dremmel -
BEFORE:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/markj113/trim2.jpg)
AFTER TRIMMING:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/markj113/trim3.jpg)
6) Start sanding down. work your way from 400 grit up to 1200 grit wet and dry then finish with a good quality polish for a really nice shine -
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/markj113/finish2-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/markj113/finish4-1.jpg)
that looks really cool
ive just sprayed all my interior panels matt black, got my bodyshop to prime them and i flatted them back and sprayed them with the paint they supplied for me, came out really well but didnt take any pictures.
another idea is what i have done. i used cream but you can use black / grey etc. go on ebay and buy leather spray. its like paint except designed specifically for leather/ vinyl. so it wont crack and is flexible over the soft plastics. it goes on evenly and wont look out of place. a can large ebnough to do a door card cost about £5
Do you think the sanding down from 400 grit up to 1200 grit wet and dry then finish with polish would work for a slightly cloudy carbon fibre bonnet?
Chris
possibly. why do you want it cloudy? it might get swirl marks though
No, you dont get a cloudy finish. Just end up with a very high grit sandpaper then use a good quality polish to finish. I wouldnt start with something as big as a bonnet though as if you make a mistake that amount of carbon cloth isnt going to be cheap.
Noo I think what he\'s asking is that his carbon bonnet\'s gone a little cloudy with age, and would using a similar technique to how you\'ve polished up your carbon bits work there too.
Impressive work with the carbon fabric, what polish do you use?
I just go to 1200 grit sandpaper then use autoglym to finish.
If your carbon bonnet has gone cloudy you may be able to gently rub ut down with a very fine sandpaper then I would get it profesionally clear coated to protect it.
Some resin isnt UV stable so needs the clear coat to protect it from fading in the sun.
Quote from: Matt_KNoo I think what he\'s asking is that his carbon bonnet\'s gone a little cloudy with age, and would using a similar technique to how you\'ve polished up your carbon bits work there too.
Impressive work with the carbon fabric, what polish do you use?
Corect that man!
Sorry, should have made myself a little clearer!
Chris
p.s. its on my Bro\'s car not mine incase anyone who new the car was confused (more!)
Good stuff here i think i may do some c.f parts. Some of it will definatly just be sprayed, im not gonna carbo lay my whole storage bins.
say if you got a hole in a panel (that you need) that your covering with carbon how would you go about that?
fiber glass the back of it, then a thin layer of filler and sand smooth :) job done :)
im looking at a few overlays soon so i`ll pop a post up.
A handy trick is to apply a thin layer of resin and wait for it to go tacky, then the cloth will stick to the correct shape and not move around
no no i mean if there is a hole there that you need to keep? i.e. for a switch or your dials? would you just cover it all then cut the hole away!
Quote from: ENVYDno no i mean if there is a hole there that you need to keep? i.e. for a switch or your dials? would you just cover it all then cut the hole away!
That would be the easiest way of doing it yeah :D
Quote from: ENVYDno no i mean if there is a hole there that you need to keep? i.e. for a switch or your dials? would you just cover it all then cut the hole away!
use a dremmel to cut out the hole afterwards
Quote from: markj113use a dremmel to cut out the hole afterwards
would you do that after the 5-6 layers of resin or before you put them on? may be asking alot of questions but i have never used carbon before!
do it after the resin.