Well the cab is dead :(
went to take it to clares parents house so that its out of the way whilst getting some jobs done
whilst driving it up the road noticed LOADS of water in the passenger footwell ( sloshing around there was that much )
get to the junction - car dies and wont start
got 12v on the battery , it turns over but wont start
got no rev counter and the heat light is on
looks like a fried ECU
well AA just phoned - they are inbound - thats impressive - 10 mins since i phoned !!
Will report back soon
Stu
Seems you have a major water ingress problem Stu thats what killed the first ECU insn\'t it.
Kevin
Bad news Stu. At least when you sort the leek out you have a reason to fit you Knightsports ecu. If not you can do a swap with my spare one.
I suspect he has water tracking down the wiring loom.
Stu if the car did start at first, then the water can only of got into the ECU when you started driving it. Whatever you do or the AA man does, you want to get it dry as quick as possible, as there is a good chance the ECU can be saved at this stage.
A friend of ours has a 280Z, and his ECU got soaked when he came out to a meet around here. Poor guy had driven all the way from London. AA guy came out and dried off his ECU with a hair dryer, then bagged it.
He did get it started again, but the ECU was still a bit damp and the car stalled a couple of times. It went home on the low loader, but the leak was found and plugged and the original ECU - after a thorough drying - was back in and working.
All the best with it Stu.
car is back on the drive
thing is - the car has been out in the rain - no cover - so that doesnt help
gonna dry it out and get the ECU out asap
i think its been the shear amount of rain thats caused it
no idea where its leaking from though - could be a blocked roof drain ??
thing is drove fine - looks like when i touched the brakes - water sloshed into the ecu and thats when it stoppped
going out to dry the thing out ( if i can - as its dark !! )
Stu
Sorry to hear this mate-hope you get if fixed.It would be ashame to see another cab off the road!!
Nooooo gutted for u stu, Sure u`ll sort it, but not something u needed just after moving house,
Gonna check mine tommorow for water leak
Mick
i\'m sure you will get it sort stu, they do say that there is no such thing as a completely leak free cab. Mine certainly wasnt.
well thats been an eventful last few hrs !! LOL
right then state of play ( i love lists )
1 - removed passenger seat to see how bad it was
2 - OMG
3 - OMG
4 - OMG
5 - there is a LOT of water
6 - put it this way - 2 bath towels into the area and it didnt touch it
7 - it was rougly about 1 - 2 inch deep
8 - spent a good hour with 2 car sponges taking the water out
9 - removed the kick plate
10 - ecu is out ( phew ! )
11 - its not massivly wet - no real water in it
12 - thats now sat by a radiator drying ( hope its still alive ?? )
13 - top plugs out - they were soaked
13a - put plugs over gas ring and dried and cleaned
14 - EGI fuse out and cranked over
15 - it was throwing fuel out the exhaust before - so defo ECU fault
16 - pushed car down the drive and praying for no rain - as im back to square one
17 - need to find a decent cover for it - no where dry to store it
18 - not sure where the leak is coming from - drivers side is damp - not wet
19 - need to check drainage around the roof , make sure its not a split pipe
20 - no water signs above the ecu - so its not coming from the windscreen end
21 - need to get it running again , get the roof down ( or just the windows ) and leave it with the heaters on and try and get the moisture out
21 - praying for it not to rain :D
thats the state of play - so might not have chance tomorrow to have a look - but not sure how long to leave the ECU dying out for ???
im tempted to get the KS tuned one out if i can find it -just to see if she will fire and run in the morning - but like i said - not sure how long to leave it for to dry out
Pete Taylor is sorting me a ECU out in case this one is shot - so that could be here on monday - at least i will have 2 to try ... im just hoping i havent killed the ABS one aswell like last time
hell .... its all fun and games :D
Stu
well found the KS tuned one in a box cunning labelled "RX7 bits" - so i have a spare if need be
fingers crossed mine isnt blow to bits - might try it in the morning - i dont think i can make it worse !!
then i need to check the rear drain tubes .. i have noticed that the pockets hold water - so maybe they are blocked and allowing water into the back of the car ???
not sure the best way of checking - might just pour a pint of water into the pocket and see how much comes out - if its not a lot - then i know there is a problem
i will keep you all posted ( as always !! )
Stu
Stu, found a TII UK ECU, you can have it for £40 delivered, this came out of a 1990 UK cab and was ok as the engine ran perfectly. Will post it sat morning. I do have a wiper switch as well but just so reluctant to\\part with it, i have had so many people after one i could have sold it a dozens times over. I will make sure it works and then you \\can always make me an offer. I actually have two but i defo want to keep one for myself. how bad is your old one ?
Pete
dont worry about the wiper switch - i will try and fix mine - it works on one speed so its still a MOT pass
its the ECU i could do with - even as a spare if mine works
i will paypal you the money later today - im about to go and see if mine is really dead !
Stu
Mine sometimes leaks in through the passenger side Stu. I still haven\'t found out where its coming in. Either through the windowscreen rubber as this has lifted slightly or through the bulk head if the drains are blocked. It gets into the heater ducking somehow on mine then when I start the car it drops it onto the passenger floor. It only does it when its been really wet and its been stood for a bit in it. There is a thread on here about it titled Leaky Blower. Don\'t know if this helps but I hope so. Good luck all the same. Keep us posted or if you need a hand or some bits let me know.
Sorry to hear your woes bud. It should dry out hopefully
Shaun
I just so happen to have an ABS ECU as well so just shout. You night not get the ECU until Tuesday morning. No rush with payment mate,much rather get your car going. In fact I would have rather have had a AGM but then thats another story !!! What is this club coming to eh ?
Ahhhh, hope you get it sorted mate :wave
not much of an update but
1 - tried the car this morning and nothing
2 - it turns bit wont fire
3 - took top plugs out and cleaned
4 - put them back and same again
5 - put the other ECU i have and tried that - same again
6 - plugs out again ( all of them this time )
7 - put car battery on charge
7a - put roof down and left it down hoping it might dry out some more
8 - did 8 hrs of tree felling in the back garden
9 - gonna try again tomorrow - im hoping its just seriously flooded now ??
Stu
Do you know if your KS ECU is working OK? If so I\'d be tempted to plug that in to see if that gets it to start.
I\'ve had issues with "unfixable" water leaks on mine as well, in the end I rented a garage as despite numerous readjustments and new seals, the top just doesn\'t seal 100% on the passenger side.
i have tried the KS one - and still the same
im just hoping its really really flooded now and will start
both ecu arent firing the engine - so im hoping thats a sign that its flooded seriously - and not 2 dead ecu\'s - that would be real bad luck
im miffed that its leaking soooo bad to be honest - i have a cover to try so will put that on - i had a £25 one from the argos but it wouldnt fit and ripped on the 3rd time fitting
so gone for a £15 from the argos - just seems a rip off as its like a big plastic bag - but if it keeps it dry then i dont care
was gonna keep the car in the garage but its a really nice workshop :D
im sure i will sort it out - failing that - it will be sold and a coupe bought
Stu
she lives !!!!!!!!!!!
took some getting going and only started on one rotor - but left her ticking over on the drive for just over an hour and all seems well !! ( using the KS ECU - not sure about if the orig one survived though ??? )
typically though - i took the ABS ECU out with all the water .. so Pete .. if you have one - just let me know a price !!
Stu
is it possible to reloat the ecu up and out of the way so if it does flood again it is safer?
cheers, hope you gt it sorted out sooner rather than later.
Ive got the ecu from the gtx, if you need a spare Stu matey. Sure John wouldnt mind posting it.
Going to keep the ABS ECU for now as I actually have a car with ABS so think i\'ll keep it as a spare. Glad its going now, did loads on mine, roof,underseal. Changed the Light/flasher unit as mine did not work the LH flashers,only had a S5 one so it all worked perfectly........almost, no ignition lights !! So I am after a S4 Flasher unit Stu has to be one that says F055 and has 4 connectors. I\'ll do a wanted post anyway.
Pete : what flasher unit is it ?? - the one in the plastic housing around the dash or another one ??? and if you have no ignition lights - you have prob blown the fuse in the footwell - i did mine loads of times when testing the lights - check that first
G&ndy : thanks for the offer - but pete is sending one up for me .. although i bet you are gonna tell me that your would have only been postage !! LOL
travellinbob : i was thinking about moving it somewhere else aswell to be honest - infact i was thinking of the boot ! - but brett says i might loose signal quality over that distance ??
as i said - the car is now running .. the next plan is when Pete\'s ecu arrives - i will put that on the car and keep the KS tuned one for when the mods have been done. I might try the orig one aswell and see if thats blown or if i managed to save it or not.. it might still be working just need to double check ( knowing my luck it will and i will have wasted money buying petes !! )
next on the hunting down list is the ABS ecu - cant believe i have blown it up - its just typical - esp when the mot is due in a few months and i have a ABS light on
car is now on the drive with a cover over it - need to get the inside really really dry now and have a hunt to see where the leak is coming from
the pockets on the roof have water in them - so im wondering if the drain holes are blocked ??
Stu
Stu, I will do you a deal, if your old ECU lives then send the one I sent you back and I will refund you your money, cant say fairer than that. The CPU is the one by the footwell fuse box and does control a fair amount of dash warning lights. I have swopped back to the original and all is well but the S5 does have an extra 2 connectors. So has to be S4 unless someone can advise otherwise to mod a s5 unit. fuse was not blown.
Sorry to hear of your troubles Grinder.. :(
been having a few of similar type myself; http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45504 (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45504)
Please have a look if you havent seen it.
I have a spare ABS Cpu from a UK \'89 TII if you are still looking? I can\'t guarentee it\'s 100% as its been left doing nothing in an almost bare shell for the past few months, but you are welcome to give it a try. What\'s your postcode, I\'ll look up postage for you, email me at ben_s_lewis at hotmail.com if you\'d rather.