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General => General Technical => Topic started by: PETE SMITH on December 11, 2007, 05:12:10 PM

Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: PETE SMITH on December 11, 2007, 05:12:10 PM
I know it sounds a bit rude, but i\'m cheesed off with my little compact engine-bay battery losing charge easily...cars outside so trickling not an easy solution, so who\'s put a nice big battery in their boot??
Cheers
Pete.:cheers
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: rx7veilside on December 11, 2007, 07:24:17 PM
if u have rear bins put it in there and run power to front of car thru the wing(remove arch liner
otherwise same thing just mount and secure in the boot
i wld say 2 hours max 3 if u take ur time
i use a optima red top just charge every week
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: robedwards99 on December 11, 2007, 07:37:01 PM
I use my car daily and have alarm immobiliser and have been running the same battery for over two years....

Last night I went out after the car had been sat for 3 days and I had noticed that it had been a little sluggish for a while....

Anyway... first turn over it sounded on deaths door so I prayed to John in the sky (don\'t believe in god!!) and turned the key again and after a couple of very dead  sounding turns it sprung into life! (Cheers John!)

I think 2 years is pretty good for a battery so I\'m happy and have a spare and a spanner in the boot for when it does die!

In my opinion it\'s not worth relocating it. :)
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: RedRummy on December 11, 2007, 09:00:11 PM
Quote from: robedwards99I.... have a spare and a spanner in the boot for when it does die!

:)


Excellent idea, why didn\'t i think of that...  :rolleyes:

My FD\'s got one of those tiny (motorbike??) batteries in it, and the alarm kills it after a while...  been going good for a year though!!  :yes

I even bought a solar trickle charger, but the ciggy lighter isn\'t powered when the ignitions is off, so that idea went out the window...!!
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: Jono FD3 on December 11, 2007, 10:03:45 PM
Why not run a constant feed to the lighter mate?? that\'s what has been done in mine, although I cant see why as mine has got a battery out of a fork truck :) bug huge thing, which I have relocated to the boot!!!

If you want a how to guid, take a look at my project thread as I have taken pics as I went along!!

Jono
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: PETE SMITH on December 11, 2007, 11:47:43 PM
Hi Jono,
I\'ve looked through your 277 thread starters !!!!!:2eek :2eek ....can find the one relevant....help!!:)
Pete
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: Jono FD3 on December 12, 2007, 11:05:14 AM
Here you go fella.... http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34454&page=2

Not as detaild as I rememberd but it shows you what you need, how much of it and roughly what it should cost!!

Sorry about the hundereds of threads... I\'m a little post whore!!
Jono
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: nikp on December 12, 2007, 12:42:48 PM
Quote from: RedRummyI even bought a solar trickle charger, but the ciggy lighter isn\'t powered when the ignitions is off, so that idea went out the window...!!


I\'ve done the same. What you need to do is hook up a plug under the dash that goes to the battery and an earth, and connect trickle charger to that. That\'s what i will be doing. When i can be bothered!! Currently battery is unplugged in this cold weather until each saturday when i use it!
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: batman on December 12, 2007, 09:32:35 PM
i have moved my battery to the boot bolted it on the fuse box where it should be connected to the old battery and braced it to the boot .using a 4 guage power cable similar to the amp kits you get and just earthed it to the chassis in the boot very simple under the carpet and theres a nice phat grommet to go through the bulk head without removing inner wings can show pics if you need dude
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: Kaptainbalistik on December 14, 2007, 05:05:10 AM
You should run a ground lead back to the "Bay" or you will have increased body corosion and the battery will not charge as well either.

Also vote 1 " Dirty big Lead calcium battery"
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: batman on December 14, 2007, 04:40:19 PM
the earth lead that comes from the battery goes straight to an earthing bold under the two fuse boxes in the engine bay.
why run an earth cable back to the bolt when the chasis acts as a bigger cable???
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: Kaptainbalistik on December 15, 2007, 11:19:44 AM
Because The return path ( The body) has a high resistance,(Dont laugh...) The motor ground is near the Batt mount.

Body seams are also a High resistance point. Also, It can introduce Crackling noises in the stereo.

Its delving into the nerdy bits of crevase corrosion and such,( So I wont explainj fully, It involves lots of equasions and is boring unless you are a Chemest!)
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: interloper393 on December 15, 2007, 11:41:29 AM
Quote from: KaptainbalistikBecause The return path ( The body) has a high resistance,(Dont laugh...) The motor ground is near the Batt mount.

Body seams are also a High resistance point. Also, It can introduce Crackling noises in the stereo.

Its delving into the nerdy bits of crevase corrosion and such,( So I wont explainj fully, It involves lots of equasions and is boring unless you are a Chemest!)


Are u saying u cn here your stereo over the car once its running? .. wow i wonder what thats like :Hammer
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: Laeeq on December 15, 2007, 11:44:06 AM
Quote from: KaptainbalistikBecause The return path ( The body) has a high resistance,(Dont laugh...) The motor ground is near the Batt mount.

Body seams are also a High resistance point. Also, It can introduce Crackling noises in the stereo.

Its delving into the nerdy bits of crevase corrosion and such,( So I wont explainj fully, It involves lots of equasions and is boring unless you are a Chemest!)

I agree with Kaptain on this as my stereo is crackling.

I will be running a direct earthing cable back to the bay at some time soon as its freezing atm and cant be asked.  

Is it ok to leave the earthing points in the boot too if you run a direct cable?
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: batman on December 15, 2007, 01:12:39 PM
well ive got a camera a screen  head unit and phone kit in mine batterys earthed in the boot as long as the earth point is clean im not having problems
Title: Battery in boot..how much and how hard??
Post by: Kaptainbalistik on December 17, 2007, 12:47:00 AM
Boot ground is good too. Im running a Pretty cranky IPRA Jport that needs everything its got to start when you spin it mid stage!