hi can anyone please HELP ME!
story is thursday night my car was working fine and perfect. on the friday night i tried using it and all it was doing was turning over and that was it. just wouldnt start.
so i got a friend to help me out and see if we could find out what was wrong. we crossed out it was the spark plugs coz we changed then about a week ago. (but still double checked) it isnt the fuel pump because that seem like it was working. and the air in take was all good.
when u turn it over it was coming out with white smoke, smelling of petrol.
so can anyone please please help. and please dont say its a rebuild coz i think i will cry!
sounds like its flooded??
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40229&highlight=flooded
try this link.
thanks. anyone else second it or got other thoughts?
Double check that you\'ve tightened the plugs properly and that the leads are securely attached.
Quote from: nick englishsounds like its flooded??
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40229&highlight=flooded
try this link.
Ill second that
Quote from: steve garbuttIll second that
I\'ll third it mate, lol!
Pop out the EGI fuse and turn it over in a few 5 sec bursts. Then pop back in the fuse and try to start with either no gas or the pedal to the floor. Then repeat as required. It may take a few battery charges to re-start. last time mine flooded it took two battery charges / days to start.
Good luck!
Chris
p.s.prepare for a massive cloud of white smoke when she does fire!
jsut cleaned the plugs black and wet. so must be on right track?
still trying. but getting really ****ed off. will let u guys knows. thanks.
Quote from: Romfordboyjsut cleaned the plugs black and wet. so must be on right track?
still trying. but getting really ****ed off. will let u guys knows. thanks.
yep its a right royal pain in the arse you have just got to persevere .i never start mine with any accelerator at all and just let it tick over for a bit.
what used to do it was moving the car in and out of the garage whilst working on it and it flooded all the time when i did eventually get it started it popped and banged and smoked like a ba****d then take it out for a proper drive when warmed up.
deffo flooded
just to let u all know. my engine was flooded. but it was due to my NEW spark plugs that i put in about a week maybe 2 weeks before. reason why i know it was my plugs? i put the old ones in and the engine started up first time. so brought them back to the shop i got them from and there going to send them back to NGK. BIG thanks guys for ur advise!
HI,
I have heard, and maybe someone can put me right if ive misunderstood, that even brand new plugs don\'t work well if youve flooded the engine. Maybe what you need to do is put ones from a flooded engine on a gas stove for a bit to make sure the petrol/oil mix all evaporates.
Brand new plugs will get wet with petrol and won\'t be able to spark.
Interestingly, I have a now 1 year old engine (approx 6000 miles on it) and it doesn\'t flood. I started it this morning, turned it off after i forgot something, and it re-started straight away! :D I\'ve done this several times now, so it wasn\'t just lucky!
Quote from: nikpBrand new plugs will get wet with petrol and won\'t be able to spark.
Interestingly, I have a now 1 year old engine (approx 6000 miles on it) and it doesn\'t flood. I started it this morning, turned it off after i forgot something, and it re-started straight away! :D I\'ve done this several times now, so it wasn\'t just lucky!
I seems to be hit or miss.
When I first got my car I would pull it out the garage and knock it straight off all the time. It was only when I fully read up that I heard about flooding. Experienced it 3 times now in almost 3 years.
Just the luck of the draw i guess!
Chris
anyways its the plugs. so what plugs am i meant to be using? because im using the old one and there leading and trailing but the NGK book says all 4 the same.
NGKBUR9EQP x4 probably the ones u bought lol.
they were probably just coated with fuel and just needed heating up with blow lamp i sometimes put them in hot when i am desperate but probably not recommended.
set for sale here which would save u £20 providing they r new.
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43385
thats what i thought. the NGK book says them. but they werent working, so brought them to the shop where i got them from and there sending it back to ngk.
but on tuesday when i was cleaning the old ones with a wire brush since waiting for the new ones back. i noticed that they were leading and trailing. which mazda quoted.
How do you know your brand new ones weren\'t working?
because i did the whole take them out. crank it over without the plugs. heat them up put them in. didnt work.
tried bump starting it. tried reverse bump start. didnt work.
gave the plug to a mechanic friend to clean them good and proper. put them in tried it. didnt work
he said to put the old plugs in and guess what. it worked. so im only guessing its the new plugs i had. they might be fine. just my car dont like them :s
Usually the heat range will have something to do with the flooding.
I have only ever had a flooded car once, 30 mins in a hot oven, heat proof gloves and away you go.
Or even easier if someone is around, tow the bloody thing, works every time no hassels