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General => General Technical => Anything Engine/Performance/Tuning related => Topic started by: Draco on October 05, 2007, 11:48:18 AM

Title: What Tips?
Post by: Draco on October 05, 2007, 11:48:18 AM
ok so there are a few differant rotary tips out there
2 piece / 3 piece / ceramic etc and differant widths 2mm/3mm

What i am asking is what is better and why and where to get them from if I am to attempt a rebuild myself ( not to run a standard BHP! )
Title: What Tips?
Post by: rx jamie on October 05, 2007, 12:38:24 PM
from what ive read and advice from members on here is ....... but im sure i will stand corrected.

two pice are stronger than stock 3 piece.

ceramic are expensive and good at reducing friction and rotating mass... but when they let go they cause massive damage to your turbo.

3mm can stand up to more det but dont seal as well as 2mm and give more friction.

best to go with metal uprated  \' unbreakable\' tips. as they are described... imo.  its claimed they dont shatter, and instead bend, limiting damage when they do go.  you can get really expensive \'unbreakable\' tips but you can get cheaper ones which are just as good if you shop around.
Title: What Tips?
Post by: RemarkLima on October 05, 2007, 12:54:51 PM
Yeah, it\'s a bit of a minefield.

The 3 peice are the old design and you can only get 2 peice tips now, even from Mazda as I understand it.

But personally I\'m going to stick with Mazda 2 peice 2mm seals, they\'ve worked well for 60,000 + miles, so why change ;) But then I\'m keeping my engine pretty much stock.
Title: What Tips?
Post by: arrouk on October 05, 2007, 03:01:18 PM
it all depends on the expected use of the motor and budget.......

give us some details and we can help.

matt
Title: What Tips?
Post by: 12A on October 05, 2007, 03:31:52 PM
Do you mean apex seals?!?
 
2mm 2 piece are fine on any FD. Guys downunder run 8\'s on Mazda 2pc seals.
Title: What Tips?
Post by: rx7veilside on October 05, 2007, 04:21:57 PM
are you planning to do a rebuild chris..give me a shout wld like to watch
Title: What Tips?
Post by: Draco on October 05, 2007, 07:38:46 PM
I will when it goes Paul and no probs will invite ya round for the help :P
Title: What Tips?
Post by: Draco on October 05, 2007, 10:27:55 PM
prob wont be for a while. just seeing what is needed etc
Title: What Tips?
Post by: banned advertiser on October 06, 2007, 01:19:43 AM
little info here
http://www.rotaryart.uk.com/acatalog/Performance_Tested_Apex_Seals.html

http://www.rotaryart.uk.com/acatalog/Performance_Tested_Seals.html

http://www.performancetestedseals.com/

Used in the worlds fastest rotaries, and some of the UK\'s

All kept in stock in all sizes 13b and 12a