Right here goes im going to follow the first pic diagram for the non-sequencial conversion on ma 97 spec rx7, from what iv read it shouldnt be 2 bad and im hoping to remove everything i can, simplify everything, so when the day fer a rebuild comes its guna be alot easyer.. hoping to go single but until the right tubby comes along im going with this.. shud make the single conversion easyer anywho lol..
SOOooo.. tomorrow it begins.., iv removed alot already trying to find a boost leak with no joy..
Is there anything i cn do to make them less laggy or will they still boost at 1500rpm? heard mixed reactions on these..
:wave
you doing the poor mans version? if so, make sure you give a good writeup!:D
2nd ;) ^^^
im going the full hog... all or nothing im affraid guys :D
you wanna borrow the van of destiny?
nah just u n john lol.. did u just rip all the nest n vac hoses out n start fae there? is diagram 1 guna do the job lol
well, once you have finished practising on your car.. i might take a drive up to ayreshire ;)
well i ripped it all out apart from one that goes to the fuel regulator i think best to ask john because thats what i did lol pretty sure diagram 1 is what we had dont mind helping if you wanna bring it a bit closer to where we live :driving
Diagram 1 is the puppy i used, just keep the vac line from the purge control and you can re route the FPR vac line to the nip that faces towards the firewall ( its the only one ) down between the injectors. Everything else is as shown.
are you okay for grinding / welding stuff up?
I happen to have a manifold that has mostly been converted, it only needs to be cleaned up all the welding and grinding has been done.
I also have the other bits but we never got around to finnishing that part of the conversion due to jims primary being shagged
iv hit a dead end... nothing really matches with the black box mines got,all the plenum pipes are different :S
Im ok welding n grinding :D
lol! like i said, this is your practise run to get it right before you have a go on mine ;)
Quote from: interloper393iv hit a dead end... nothing really matches with the black box mines got,all the plenum pipes are different :S
Im ok welding n grinding :D
can you put up pictures?
will do bud, damm this new age car lol.. was all set to start ripping it all out :P
id pull it out anyway if it was me :p
here ya go m8, the plenums nothing like a earlyer one with the nipples.. already removed the butterflys n ported it lol...
Think im at the stage where if i just rip it all out then it`ll be easyer..
here ya go m8, the plenums nothing like a earlyer one with the nipples.. already removed the butterflys n ported it lol...
Think im at the stage where if i just rip it all out then it`ll be easyer..
looks fun ! get pullin it all out :D
things will soon become clearer with the more cr@p you pull
that is scary.. truely scary..
ok how do u get the 2nd presasure chamber out underneath the alternator.. surely that hasnt got to come off? everything else is out lol
you are a brave man! :D well impressed with your brass ;)
i left mine in due to lazyness :D
WOW !!
Therein lies the reason to go single !!
hammer n chisel then lol
ok few updates, the nest has been removed along with almost everything else..
can i remove the metal pipes that run down the side of the engine, connects to the side of the front facing turbo in the pic?
Also how cn i remove the downpipe nuts, they aint bugging at all :( so iv stuck noo till they come out..
That\'s not your garage wae all the bits in it.......????????
You been out with the Marigolds and feather duster mate.....????
Quote from: rico2k_ukyou are a brave man! :D well impressed with your brass ;)
Wait till you see what he does when he gets bored man..................:yes
lol! that will be interesting...
i am lining up some mods to do:
fan control mod
rewire fuel pump
poor-man sequential mod
plastic weld current stock AST
and more ;)
Go to fds3.net, or FD3s.net, not sure which,it helped me no end. To be honest, once I\'d started the job I thought the whole conversion was a piece of ****, the metal piping you are talking about can be utilised,(part of it anyway) and all this is covered on the above website. The whole conversion cost me less that £40(thats FORTY not four hundred) and less than 40 hours. Its left the engine bay much cleaner and tidier and does the car go now!!!!! I might add that this is the only RX7 I have ever worked on and though I\'m still learning( aren\'t we all), so far I havn\'t found owt too difficult. Clive is a real helpful guy and I\'m sure that, if you are stuck, he will help you out.If you need any advice off me(for what its worth) then ring me on 07982259790. As for going to single turbots, well thats ok if you\'ve got lots of money!! (wot does lol mean)???Bob.
One thing I wouldn\'t be too happy about is putting lots of weld on the turbots, not good idea!
if i ever get the downpipe off i might find out :(
cheers for the info :)
And yeak i go mad when im board :P
have you got a boost controller?
yeah cars got one fitted plus an apexi..
here you go, have a read of this
click me :D (http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/3rdgen/tech_fd_emiss_remov_nonseq.html)
Oh the joy lol glad to hear you got the nasty nest out isnt it just a load of ******** that steering column needs to come out as for the down pipe go buy yourself some freeze and release spray its the buisness for getting them nuts off:Thumbs-up
i feel dead clever we maself, got all 4 downpipe nuts off from the top :) but yeah the bugger wont go past the stearin rack :S
Gees yopu have balls of steel doing this. Keep up the good work as I have been toying for a long time but to scared...lol
Im guessing that the plugs and wiring from the black box i cn just cut off and tape up to tidy it all up a bit more?
Also where cn i get a million n 1 cap offs n clipys plz.... turbos r guna be coming off tomoz, o n iv removed the 2 bolts each end of the sterin rack and turn the wheels but i cant disconnect the too to remove me doonypipe.. any tips lol
NO! these cable will still have a feed to them by cutting them off you risk shorting something out and poss killing your ecu.
and try electrical whole sale for caps (cable caps for 6mm pipe or coaxial) , or use a short piece of pipe between 2 of the nipples, failing that a small bolt in the end of a short pipe. also i advise using some small cable ties to hold the pipes and caps on.
hth Matt
if i tape each seperate wire it shud be ok then wont it? looks a bloody mess the noo man lol
well tbh i thought the same thing, which is one of the resons i split the loom and removed everything i didnt need.
matt
Getting the fannymould off-.Make sure you have plenty of room under the car and a decent area to work on the car, do the job in a cramped garage and you\'re doomed to failure! A good bit of old carpet under the car is invaluable as you will spend some time under there.-If you can\'t find one then I\'m sure the missis won\'t mind you borrowing the one out of the front room!!
The first important job is getting the steering link off. Take your time and use plenty of wd.The fannymould should come off reasonably easy after that. Crack the nuts with a long bar and socket, then go get a \'carolus\' rat **** spanner(bout a tenner), they are invaluable for a couple of the nuts as you can only turn them a click at a time, the others you need a good quality rat **** for the sockets,its not worth trying to do the job with crap tools, the cheaper rat ****s aren\'t fine enough. Here endeth todays sermon. Good luck( should I say here that you\'ll need it)!!!!! -thats awind up by the way, slow and steady and be methodical, there is nowt particularly difficult about any of it. If I have time I\'ll post some pics etc in the next couple of days. One last thing, I didn\'t do any welding apart from a couple of tacks to hold the threaded plugs I used( 1x 3/8bsp and 1x M14x2), virtually all the other vac take offs on the inlet manifold and bananas were drilled out and tapped with either M6 or M8 second tap 3/4 down and then blanked off with grubscrews and also locktited, much tidier and safer than sticking plastic plugs over the nipples. I also used the long take offs near the throttle body for the dump valves(which actually work properly now), super glue and tie wrap all vac pipes left.
is there anywheree online i cn get the block off caps from, tryed my local places n no one does um :( needs these before i go any further lol
nightmare.. you doing the full proper conversion, or the poor-mans one?
full on m8, i dont do things by half lol
Drill the buggers out and fit grub screws, its a lot easier and neater
WOOHOO!! got the turbo pack off lol...n out of all the studs, 1 snaped off :(
Having problem removing the heatshield thats left tho, im thionking theres 2 12mm bolts underneath but there rounded off :S
Top 2 manifold bolts are oot but other 2 i cant get at yet..
Pic of the left over bits lol n more to come yet :yes YIPEEEE!!!... its guna be so much easyer working on her know iv done one of the biggest jobs on the rotary...:rollin
Nice one matey, thanks for the pics, did you take the DP out the top or pull it out from underneath? did you lift the engine up with a hoist?
cheers Bob
Time to get that manifold out
how do i get the heatshield off lol...
Pulled the mni through underneath but u gotta remove the steering linkage first, no need to lift the engine bud...
What are you machining the wastegate to? I did our Grants to the 1.24" recommended- it won\'t go any bigger than this-BUT and I mean BUT, the port is not central to the gate its self and you have to make sure the guy machining it knows that or the turbots are ****ed! Probably better to stick to 30mm, its easier and safer. I do my own machining and I was sweating doing that!! I only ran the miller down the port about 5mm then finished blending with the porting tool.
not too sure bud, i`ll get a pro to port it anyways, might even post to Carl lol..least i know it`ll be done right..what does the porting do exactly? is bigger better in this case?
You will end up with too much boost and shag the motor!!!
not porting the WG can lead to boost spike
Sorry to hijack this thread firstly, It that a pressure regulator in the top left corner of this pic? The reason i\'m asking is that im looking for a new one for my rex (running higher boost and these help the conrtol systems.) and was wondering if you wanted to sell it?? :cheers If you do can i ask what pressures etc it works under and waht size the connectors are? Thanks
Rob
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I think its a compressor, looks like it has a red valve switch thing on it
lol yip thats ma compressor regulator, needs to go upright but i need the right bracket :)
soz bud hehe
John have you got an email address i cn chat to you on? need a bit of help with a few bits lol..
sure man asthier@gmail.com
WOOHOO!! the manifold is off lol.. not a bad job really, u just need to know what to remove to make it easy lol.. i found out the hard way :(
But YEAEE!! im half way there lol..
Hoping to get the tubs done asap and in the mean time the a/c pumps coming out and alots getting polished :) Ooo wait tillyou see the finished pics hehe
dont forget to pull that flap off the manifold as well!
also email replied to
Already done n welded up bud :D cheers fer the email lol.. kinda think i know what im doing noo lol.. need to get more grinding bits man, broke ma last one 2 mins ago, gunna clean up the inside weld a bit more and port the manifold a bit..:Laugh
can i block of the 2 recirc valves and fit a bov some where else? im aiming for just the 2 filters on the turbos with nothing else blocking air flow or looking poop :D
sure can ;)
good man :) thats another load o crap getting removed lol
Im loosing it man i cant see the fpr anywhere or the 2ndry injectors.. been working to much i fink lol.. is there any links to a pic bud?
Also what if i dont run a bov for a bit, will that damage the tubbys?
i\'ll email you a pic if i can find one, and personally i wouldnt run without a bov
E-mail sent
kk best get one asap lol.. going to get the wastegate ported tomoz hopfully ready for refitting sunday :P
come on laddy get yer finger out and slam it back together :p
waiting for the waste gate to get done noo man lol.. hook it all up n watch it go boom!
any how u had john doing all the work on yours :) hehe
Quote from: interloper393any how u had john doing all the work on yours :) hehe
oh if only that was true would have saved me alot of effort :Tongue1
Oi cheeky git, i did enough work.. I think physical effort was 60/40 to jim only because i was and still am mega ill...
See how much of a sh*tty mate he is? (j/k)!
He dragged me out to work on his car while i had a chest infection... hows that for dedication..
anyway i was more of a technical advisor :)
jit u still wanting the bumpy? guna drop it off tonite at ma m8s house cus hes guna drop it off for me :D
Quote from: John_HudsonOi cheeky git, i did enough work.. I think physical effort was 60/40 to jim only because i was and still am mega ill...
See how much of a sh*tty mate he is? (j/k)!
He dragged me out to work on his car while i had a chest infection... hows that for dedication..
anyway i was more of a technical advisor :)
quit your whining you git im a fantastic mate :Giggle
Quote from: interloper393jit u still wanting the bumpy? guna drop it off tonite at ma m8s house cus hes guna drop it off for me :D
bring forth the bumpy me wants the precious :D
Jeezus, that little bloke firing that blue flame thing is soooo distracting:Grrr :flamed
Quote from: RobbieRX-7Jeezus, that little bloke firing that blue flame thing is soooo distracting:Grrr :flamed
what you mean this one :rollin
Cheeky git:Giggle
ok all flaps have been removed n welder up :D , turbos are aprt and the wastegates off to the engineers tomoz for porting :).. then its back together time lol.. cant wait hehe...
Shes getting there guys, only doing a bit here n there as iv got another 2 cars to finish to sale.. :S
is there anything else i cn remove whilst im here? a/c pumps coming out once i get a belt, batterys going into the boot.. want rid of the abs but that a be done by a mechanic i reckon lol.. cn anything on the throttle bodys be removed?
well the wastegates off for porting, shud get it bck 2day ot tomoz :D
But i wudnt fancy doing it lol, if u port it to 30mm theres only 1.5mm left round the flapper :S scary
k guys got the wastegate bck today and the manifold, guys have done a great job :) £45 all in for the porting and stud removal.. so all in thats whats the non-seq has cost me :P..
The great man himself Carl is sending me a manifold bolt n nut, so i cn start puting her bck together WOOHOO!! o and iv been polishing metal like a mad un..
Well rebuild the turbo pack up today and fitted the manifold :)
Also a few pics of what iv polished so far lol, still gor the rest of the intercooler pipe, plenum, coolent filler thing, alternator and y pipe:wiggle
in the pic theres a small round thing thats connected to a t piece, do i just block the t piece end up cus it was attached to the metal pipe cluster that i removed.
And in pic 2 what is it and can it be removed? has a vac hose which goes to the plenum..
im thinking im going to remove the harness and remove everything i can from it to be safe, not sure if i trust the cut the ends off method.. although using the power fc it shouldnt be a prob :S
Bit of an update lol, removed the metal plate that the nest was bolted to and decided to hack most of it off as its unused n covers the engine (thinking better for heat displacemnt lol) before n after pic below, plus i removed the unused vac pipes from the metal section so only the coolent n oil pipe remains :D
O n iv forgot what these 2 plugs r for lol.. any idears?
Removed all the unused connectors to, just need more tape to finish the last few.. makes a huge difference :D
Also removed the now redundant thread holes n lumpy bits off the plenum, so a bit more to go and i`ll start polishing it..
ah man! you are doing good! i so want to get this done to my car as not a big fan of the jolt of the 2nd tubby coming into action...
still think i might give you some ££ if you fancy doing all this again? ;)
this cars harder to do cus its different being a 97 car, theres bits that dont match lol.. getting there tho man :) last few bits to remove/block off and im good to goooooooooooo.. BOOM!! most probly tho :P
where did you get hte welding/porting done?
welded it all myself, had a engineer do the porting but they only ported down 3mm so i had to do the rest with a dremel :(
man, i need detailed instructions me thinks :(
not hard bud... look at these pics, befor n after :)
ffs so much simpler, why the f mazda never did it originally? ah well. still, i am way to nervous to do all that yet me thinks....
Ok still waiting for the nut n bolt, due to postal strikes its never going to arrive, thanks to Carl for sending :P
Cant beleave how empty under the plenum is now lol still a bit to tidy up but i`ll sort that once shes running.. also pulled out the ac pump, huge space everywhere now lol.. also need to remove that bracket underneath the plenum :D
oooooooooooooooooooooo pretty!