Hi,
Bit worried about the geometry and general suspension setup of my FD... it drives fine as far as I can tell, but to me it looks like its been setup for a more drifting style driving (which wouldn\'t surprise me given the twin plate clutch and 2way diff ;) )... the rear wheels camber looks very... tilted..
The rear tyres are beginning to wear unevenly on the inside edge... all very well, but I want to be safe... :)
Get it checked mate before it lets go and you have a fight with the Insurance company over your car being incorrectly set up for road use. HTH
try steve at Guilielmi on 0132787425 warthog and mark recomended him to me and he is perhaps the nicest man ive had the pleasure of meeting in the motorsport/mechanics world. cant think of a better version.
ill be going down shortly so we can go same day if you like?
hoping Warthog & Mark may make it too but no set date yet just later this month.
hth
tharek
Funnily enough, Steve was recommended to me last night for mechanical purposes by Don Palmer (driving coach).
For geometry, I can\'t recommend //www.centergravity.co.uk enough - Chris is such a nice guy and keeps you involved with everything. Bit far from Brighton I guess (although Steve G is Daventry in Northants anyway). I haven\'t had chance to really test my RX-7 yet (should have been today! See another thread...), but with Chris driving, it was going round corners far faster than I ever thought possible! :D
Redrummy get your car over to discount tyres in worthing mate they have a full laser set , normally costs me about £80 with all four tyres balanced as well.
Nick
Quote from: WarthogGet it checked mate before it lets go and you have a fight with the Insurance company over your car being incorrectly set up for road use. HTH
yeah, OK, will do.
Should it all be virtually straight and lined up, or is there some good in having it tilting a bit?
Quote from: m4drxtry steve at Guilielmi on 0132787425 warthog and mark recomended him to me and he is perhaps the nicest man ive had the pleasure of meeting in the motorsport/mechanics world. cant think of a better version.
ill be going down shortly so we can go same day if you like?
hoping Warthog & Mark may make it too but no set date yet just later this month.
hth
tharek
Sounds good... whereabouts is that?
Quote from: nicholasnismoRedrummy get your car over to discount tyres in worthing mate they have a full laser set , normally costs me about £80 with all four tyres balanced as well.
Nick
That sounds even better!!
Are they familiar with FD\'s?? I\'ve no idea how it should be set up, but would imagine the FD has special geometry needs.
Yes I have taken all my cars in the past there (r32,r33,gto) and they normally have them on the database.
I have seen some people recommend some extra slight tweeks but I am sure someone on here will tell you what they are.
Cheers
Nick
Quote from: nicholasnismoYes I have taken all my cars in the past there (r32,r33,gto) and they normally have them on the database.
I have seen some people recommend some extra slight tweeks but I am sure someone on here will tell you what they are.
Cheers
Nick
oK, great, thanks for that.. :Thumbs-up :Thumbs-up
This si the place right? http://www.dtstyres.co.uk/discount_tyre_direct.htm (http://www.dtstyres.co.uk/discount_tyre_direct.htm)
Will take it down there ASAP.... got the Activity Day coming up so want to be spot on.. !
Yep that\'s them mate
cheers!
that was simpler than I thought :D
hi mate,
steve is in Daventry.
they spend a few hours doing it and steve himself takes the car out to test etc! just google his name and you will see why its priceless.
:D
Quote from: m4drxhi mate,
steve is in Daventry.
they spend a few hours doing it and steve himself takes the car out to test etc! just google his name and you will see why its priceless.
:D
OK, ta, that sounds real good... may make a visit at some point, but just need a good enough set up for now, till I get sorted. :Thumbs-up
The difference between taking your FD to a tyre place and taking it to the RX8 Race Team, TVR, Lotus, BMW, Porche race car specialists is as far apart as we are from the Sun.
If you put Steves name into Google you get about 25 pages just on him and his wins as a Race Driver.
He was actually the Racing Driver Mazda used in this country to review & try out the FD when it was first launched in this country.
He did my setup in 2005 and then took it out at the Bedford track ( 4.2 miles long ) on a test & tune day for the RX 8 Race cars. I sat there as a passenger and could not believe that my FD was carving it\'s way through every supercar etc on track. It was fantastic.
He gave me two settings for Road and Track use. Top man.
Pistonheads rave about his attention to detail and qualitity customer service.
Mazda used him to test out the new 3 at the Ring, he is the God of TVR\'s etc. The list just goes on and on.
He took 2nd at time attack last weekend in a little Lotus against an 800bhp Scoobie running NOS as well.
What he does\'t know about setting up a car is not worth knowing.
Your choice mate, quick fit or quality.
I know which I go for every time and it\'s not the Chav one.
Your picture shows the rear tyre as having some negative camber, I\'d expect this to be honest. It is to aid grip under cornering loads. As you corner hard the car begins to roll or lean to one side and the suspension goes into compression. As the suspension compresses the camber (tilt) of the wheels on that side will alter. It will try to push the top of the wheel further out than the bottom.
This can reduce grip. To counter this change in camber you set the car up with a ddegree of static negatvie camber (whihc is what you have there), so that as the car corners and the suspension compresses the tyre contact patch on the road remains flatter and large enough to provide good grip.
The FD suspension has adjustments to dial in a degree of static negative camber on both front and back.
It\'s worth gettign it checked, but more for toe in/out and similar issues than the camber. They would make the car much worse.
What you have there is going to aid rear grip, not reduce it. The only downside is that the negative camber means your tyres wear on the inside edge faster when travelling straight. traction in a straight line will be reduced slightly as well - so if you are goiing to the drag strip you don\'t want any static negative camber.
Quote from: WarthogThe difference between taking your FD to a tyre place and taking it to the RX8 Race Team, TVR, Lotus, BMW, Porche race car specialists is as far apart as we are from the Sun.
If you put Steves name into Google you get about 25 pages just on him and his wins as a Race Driver.
He was actually the Racing Driver Mazda used in this country to review & try out the FD when it was first launched in this country.
He did my setup in 2005 and then took it out at the Bedford track ( 4.2 miles long ) on a test & tune day for the RX 8 Race cars. I sat there as a passenger and could not believe that my FD was carving it\'s way through every supercar etc on track. It was fantastic.
He gave me two settings for Road and Track use. Top man.
Pistonheads rave about his attention to detail and qualitity customer service.
Mazda used him to test out the new 3 at the Ring, he is the God of TVR\'s etc. The list just goes on and on.
He took 2nd at time attack last weekend in a little Lotus against an 800bhp Scoobie running NOS as well.
What he does\'t know about setting up a car is not worth knowing.
Your choice mate, quick fit or quality.
I know which I go for every time and it\'s not the Chav one.
Believe me, I\'d love to have my car looked at by someone of his stature!!
Quote from: TonyCYour picture shows the rear tyre as having some negative camber, I\'d expect this to be honest. It is to aid grip under cornering loads. As you corner hard the car begins to roll or lean to one side and the suspension goes into compression. As the suspension compresses the camber (tilt) of the wheels on that side will alter. It will try to push the top of the wheel further out than the bottom.
This can reduce grip. To counter this change in camber you set the car up with a ddegree of static negatvie camber (whihc is what you have there), so that as the car corners and the suspension compresses the tyre contact patch on the road remains flatter and large enough to provide good grip.
The FD suspension has adjustments to dial in a degree of static negative camber on both front and back.
It\'s worth gettign it checked, but more for toe in/out and similar issues than the camber. They would make the car much worse.
What you have there is going to aid rear grip, not reduce it. The only downside is that the negative camber means your tyres wear on the inside edge faster when travelling straight. traction in a straight line will be reduced slightly as well - so if you are goiing to the drag strip you don\'t want any static negative camber.
Yeah, I knew a little bit of negative camber is standard but just wanted to make sure it hadn\'t been setup for a purpose which I was now not using it for (if you get what I mean)... I get the impression if was pushed har din a previous life :Viking
I did pop along to Discount Tyres in Worthing, who have an OK rep locally, and they loaded the stock FD tracking alignment settings into their laser aligner so I could see what was up... you\'re right of course, some negative camber is usual - indeed there is an envelope which the road car should lie within...
I did needs ome toe adjustment, but it wasn\'t as far out as I had worried...
I got the negative camber reduced a little, if only to reduce excessive tyre wear... it was good to know it wasn\'t totally shot anyway :Thumbs-up
Quote from: m4drxtry steve at Guilielmi on 0132787425 warthog and mark recomended him to me and he is perhaps the nicest man ive had the pleasure of meeting in the motorsport/mechanics world. cant think of a better version.
ill be going down shortly so we can go same day if you like?
hoping Warthog & Mark may make it too but no set date yet just later this month.
hth
tharek
do you think he would be happy to play with a FB?
mine needs doing and im replacing all the bushies soon so it will defo need doing and daventry is only down the road
Mark
Quote from: mpk490pdo you think he would be happy to play with a FB?
mine needs doing and im replacing all the bushies soon so it will defo need doing and daventry is only down the road
Mark
Steve will do it mate, no probs.:Thumbs-up
Quote from: m4drxtry steve at Guilielmi on 0132787425 warthog and mark recomended him to me and he is perhaps the nicest man ive had the pleasure of meeting in the motorsport/mechanics world. cant think of a better version.
ill be going down shortly so we can go same day if you like?
hoping Warthog & Mark may make it too but no set date yet just later this month.
hth
tharek
that numbers not right 1 digit missing do you have the right number?
ok in the yellow pages 01327 878425
Mark
thanks
Mark
yep sorry mark the one in you post is correct.
:)