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Cars by Model Type => 3rd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: silverdevill on July 26, 2007, 09:03:11 PM

Title: water seals gone!
Post by: silverdevill on July 26, 2007, 09:03:11 PM
ok, basically i think my water seals went today, loads of white smoke out the exhaust,loss of power, no warning whatsoever and now the car won\'t start at all, i can hear both rotors turning over but it just won\'t start. I managed to push it to a nearby friends house but she\'s going no further. So basically i need to know will it involve an engine rebuild or is it just a case of replacing the seals and i\'m good to go. Also is there anyone near wolverhampton that could do the job for me that fancies making a bit of extra cash?, someone that really knows their stuff. any help massively appreciated. cheers.:(
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: Carl on July 26, 2007, 09:05:17 PM
Quote from: silverdevillok, basically i think my water seals went today, loads of white smoke out the exhaust,loss of power, no warning whatsoever and now the car won\'t start at all, i can hear both rotors turning over but it just won\'t start. I managed to push it to a nearby friends house but she\'s going no further. So basically i need to know will it involve an engine rebuild or is it just a case of replacing the seals and i\'m good to go. Also is there anyone near wolverhampton that could do the job for me that fancies making a bit of extra cash?, someone that really knows their stuff. any help massively appreciated. cheers.:(


Hi Mate,
Sorry to hear about your engine.
John French rebuilt his engine,he is in Birmingham,he maybe able to help.
Regards
Carl
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: silverdevill on July 26, 2007, 09:09:19 PM
ok, thanks for the quick reply, who is john french and how do i get in touch with him. thanks.
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: Carl on July 26, 2007, 09:18:20 PM
Signs up as Johnf.
He is a super moderator.Have a look in members section.
Regards
Carl
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: Jit on July 26, 2007, 09:29:33 PM
rebuild time indeed :(
Minimum youll need is a new water seal kit. Thats 160 iirc. Also, you may well find yourself needing a new plate as itmay have cracked the groove on a plate..if so thats an additional 150 for a used plate and whatever it costs to match the porting..maybe 80 quid? Also if youre engines overheated, it might be a good idea to replace the springs as they can lose their "spring" when overheated!
Whatever you do, just make sure you do the job right and replace the right bits! Bodge it up and it will bite you hard!
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: Carl on July 26, 2007, 09:31:03 PM
It is best to replace all seals and as much as possible,don\'t just do water seals.
Regards
Carl
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: silverdevill on July 26, 2007, 09:57:29 PM
so how much are we talking all up? s\'\'t i\'m upset.:reallymad
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: gsb876 on July 26, 2007, 11:04:27 PM
Seal damage usually will require engine rebuild chap sorry.

Theres always plenty of people willing to help if you decide to do it yourself, JohnF\'s based in Solihul west mids, will most likely be along shortly to introduce himself :Party
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: m4drx on July 26, 2007, 11:20:23 PM
sorry to hear it mate but stick with it, you will learn loads and come out a happy man with a fast car and loads more confidence!

best of luck.
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: Jit on July 26, 2007, 11:29:36 PM
if you want it done well and an engine to last, then realistically, youre probably looking at 2.5k to 3k... depending on how bad it is :(
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: Red and Single on July 27, 2007, 11:14:52 AM
Whip the motor out yourself, strip it down to the block and get it to a tuner for a rebuild would be my advice.

Best price is probably RX motors, but they do not do tuning.
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: silverdevill on August 10, 2007, 09:07:16 AM
amazing thing happened today, in fact i\'d class it as a minor miracle. After leaving the rex sat in all this lovely sunshine for almost 2 weeks, she started perfectly today, and is running spot on aswell, no white smoke, all temps fine and its as though nothing ever happened!. has the sun/dry weather just dried out a flooded engine? before she would\'nt even start yet alone be driveable so i\'m searching for explanations as to what happened?...:Party
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: FD3SNuttah on August 10, 2007, 09:34:14 AM
LOL an FD that mends itself!!! LOL dammnnnnn u must be in the twilight zone!
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: RobbieRX-7 on August 10, 2007, 09:35:43 AM
Are you coming to rotorstock tommorrw then?
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: silverdevill on August 10, 2007, 09:39:47 AM
lol, yes she mended herself, i\'ve now nicknamed her christine! those of you who have seen the film will know why, lol!. no i can\'t make rs4 tmrw, its my old dear\'s 60th b\'day bash which is a bit inconsiderate of her i know, she has been reprimanded accordingly, lol.:chat
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: RobbieRX-7 on August 10, 2007, 09:40:48 AM
Christine, what a film. Never mind fella
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: m4drx on August 10, 2007, 01:53:31 PM
Quote from: silverdevillamazing thing happened today, in fact i\'d class it as a minor miracle. After leaving the rex sat in all this lovely sunshine for almost 2 weeks, she started perfectly today, and is running spot on aswell, no white smoke, all temps fine and its as though nothing ever happened!. has the sun/dry weather just dried out a flooded engine? before she would\'nt even start yet alone be driveable so i\'m searching for explanations as to what happened?...:Party

exactly what you said mate, dried out. :Thumbs-up
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: Martiny on August 10, 2007, 02:27:20 PM
sounds like it was only flooded! At the very least, get some new sparkplugs!
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: silverdevill on August 10, 2007, 03:49:07 PM
Whoa! hold on a minute, i may have been a bit hasty here. I took her out again today & got 200 yards down the street in second gear & she started to sound like the old VW beetles used to sound, i had no power whatsoever, so i coasted for around 10 seconds & then re-applied the accelerator & she burst back into life. all is fine til second gear is engaged, i don\'t know about 3rd 4th & 5th, too scared to take the car more than a mile away from home. Is this still the drying out process? all temps & fluids are spot on still. just guessing now, injectors?, plugs?,fuelling related?, ecu related?, bit sick of this emotional roller coaster now:confused:
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: Travis on August 12, 2007, 05:26:49 PM
Deffo sounds like you hit a puddle with all that rain..water splashed onto the block causing the steam...water splashed onto the plugs causing the cut out...and you flooded it when trying to start it with the wet plugs...i would deffo change those plugs mate then hopefully happy days:D
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: Travis on June 17, 2008, 11:59:12 PM
Hi Ryan i have lost your email address mate...could you add me to msn ke_ef@hotmail.com...or send me a mail...

                               cheers keef
Title: water seals gone!
Post by: obie81 on June 18, 2008, 09:21:34 AM
I can help you out mate, have rebuilt quite a few blocks now and would be more then willing to come and have a look and give you any advice i can. PM me back or ring me on 07931 706026
Paul