Mazda Rotary Club

Hi All

MRC have been invited by the Z Club to join them back at Billing Aquadome to get all the clubs together and bring back all the fun and laid back weekend we all used to enjoy when JAE was staged there.

JAE will still be held at the Peterborough Showground on the 21st & 22nd July but MRC will now not be attending.

For those of you that attended JAE at Billing during the years 2002 to 2004 will know what a great atmosphere this weekend was and we always had a great turnout! In 2004 we had over 100 rotaries turn up for the weekend, compared to only a maximum of 40 cars over the two day event in 2005.

I hope you will support our decision to move away from JAE at Peterbourgh and come along and join us for a great weekend.

I have updated the events calendar on the main forum page to reflect the change of event. I will update details of this event nearer the time.

Please see below details of the event posted on the Z Club forum.

If you require overnight accommodation I suggest that you contact Premier Lodge ASAP as this gets completely booked up.  It is on the entrance to the Billing Aquadome so you car park your car up and walk to the lodge on Saturday night!

Z CLUB 30TH BIRTHDAY PARTY
BILLING AQUADROME, 14, 15 JULY 07.

We will be at Puddleduck and Teal Meadows. Camping is £13 per night (up to 6 people with one car); extra cars are £10 per day. (Pets are welcome). There is a Premier Travel Inn just outside the entrance £50 per night (0870 990 6510) //www.premiertravelinn.com

Don\'t forget that all the facilities of Billing Aquadrome are available to you, a whole shopping centre, funfair, camping exhibition, jet ski-ing, fishing, adventure golf etc. you can even park your boat there! //www.billingaquadrome.com

Regards

Billing it is :chat

Awesome.....just made a booking :D I had booked the weekend and bought tickets for the International Air Tattoo as it\'s the same weekend but finding accommodation round there appears to be impossible.....anyone want tickets ;)

I don\'t live very far away so I\'ll definitely be attending at some point during the weekend :)

Such a shame MRC are not attending JAE, but i completely understand why.
Peterboghorror showground has zilch atmosphere, and i remember when it was 1st announced that JAE would be held there, i was one of the first to say "oh dear god please no!"

I can see lots more clubs following suit just like this....Billing rocks big time, and it feels like you are on holiday when you camp there.....so a massive thumbs up from me for this decission.

il be goin show me the way !!!!!!

Quote from: d-kingil be goin show me the way !!!!!!

If i go just convoy up with me dude :Giggle

i\'ll be there!!

I\'ll also be there, work allowing.

Fish

Sounds a great venue !!!!:Thumbsup! ..I might just be in Isr for a get together of \'old warriors\'..:D  shooting guns and jumping out of planes\\helicopters,if not,will def be there .......:Typing :bandit

Quote from: gsb876If i go just convoy up with me dude :Giggle

If you hang around I\'ll convoy with ya both, my car will be on the road then :) I\'ll be the inconspicuous FD at the back ;)

Quote from: probedbIf you hang around I\'ll convoy with ya both, my car will be on the road then :) I\'ll be the inconspicuous FD at the back ;)

No probs Paul :D

kool thats a 2 minute walk from my house :D :D

I like this idea!
Can any jap car join?

Quote from: Iain CI like this idea!
Can any jap car join?

Hi Iain

Are you referring to the MRC stand or the event in general?  Any Jap car club I believe would be welcome.

As Mazda Rotary Club we would be looking to only have rotary cars on the club stand.

Hope you can join us - should be good weather permitting!

Ok thanks Lisa :-)

Ah... you can\'t beat Billing for a good atmosphere :Party

It\'s a shame that it\'s the weekend before JAE though, as the Skyline Owners Club are already set on that.

Always next year though:cheers

Quote from: LisaHi Iain

Are you referring to the MRC stand or the event in general?  Any Jap car club I believe would be welcome.

As Mazda Rotary Club we would be looking to only have rotary cars on the club stand.

Hope you can join us - should be good weather permitting!

Do you have to be a paid up member to join the stand?

i will be there convoy from mine (2miles away!)
bringing my mate with a yellow 300zx
Lisa are there stand passes?

Mark

Quote from: mr.bishiDo you have to be a paid up member to join the stand?

Hi

No you do not have to be a club member, just turned up in your Rotary is all that will be required.

Quote from: mpk490pi will be there convoy from mine (2miles away!)
bringing my mate with a yellow 300zx
Lisa are there stand passes?

Mark

Hi Mark

There willbe no stand passes.  The orgnaisers know that we will be coming along so will allocate us an appropriate club space for everyone to park their
Rotaries.

im defo goin to this one, ill organise the yorkshire convoy if you want?

Quote from: LisaHi Mark

There willbe no stand passes.  The orgnaisers know that we will be coming along so will allocate us an appropriate club space for everyone to park their
Rotaries.

Thanks Lisa see you there :Thumbsup!

Mark

ill be there just down the road :Thumbsup!

Hi

Just to let you know that after a bit of confusion from the Z- Club over our invite to Billing, I can confirm that I have just spoken to Richard from the
Mazda 323gtx club who has been behind the scenes organizing this event that MRC will definitely be attending Billing on the weekend of the 14th &
15th July.  

http://www.323gtx.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=8236&sid=7b6a95c689f8b8d2b587fdcab0a10a7f

It will be very much a laid back weekend and we are hoping to organize a club BBQ for the Saturday night - more details to follow regarding this.

Note from Richard:- All we ask from our members is that we work with site Security to stomp on any of the anti-social behavior. Not that your members will need it and I knew that when I first contacted you, but it’s not the place for attempting land speed records. ¼ mile times and maximum volume levels!


Please note that by attending Billing on the 14th & 15th July we will not be attending JAE at Peterborough.  Lets hope that everyone who attends has a great time and hope that MRC gets invited back again next year.

Hi Lisa,

All booked into the Premier Travel Inn for Friday and Saturday, see you there!

Richard

I will be attending for defo and for both days :D
Just need to work out witch traceloge i need to book into as it duznt list billing :|

We are NOT going back to Billing.  Please see the thread link below.

Unfortunately we were invited to attend Billing by someone who was not organizing the event and this has caused a lot of confusion  not only for MRC but other clubs also. We hope that Billing will be a definite for 2008 - watch this space!


http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?p=398999#post398999

Not being funny Lisa,

But if these are private meets then theres no need to push the issue really, if we were having our own Mazda meet and everyone wanted to attend we would be p\'d off too.

We are not invited lets leave it at that :cheers

Gurj

Quote from: gsb876Not being funny Lisa,

But if these are private meets then theres no need to push the issue really, if we were having our own Mazda meet and everyone wanted to attend we would be p\'d off too.

We are not invited lets leave it at that :cheers

Gurj

Hi Gurj

Exactly! which is why I have not pursued it any further after todays conversation with the Club Secretary of the Toyota\'s club, they have agreed to invite MRC next year.

Well that just about puts the cherry on top my season with the car :mad:

Every event I go to is either cancelled or it throws it down and I waste hundreds of pounds of petrol.

Right now, I am tempted to burn the car and be done with it :mad:

Richard

Quote from: moakesrWell that just about puts the cherry on top my season with the car :mad:

Every event I go to is either cancelled or it throws it down and I waste hundreds of pounds of petrol.

Right now, I am tempted to burn the car and be done with it :mad:

Richard

Hi Richard

I know you are disappointed,

[FONT="Comic Sans MS]but it is very rare that we cancel an event!.

We have been messed about concerning Billing and the full truth about MRC\'s invite has only finally come to light today.[/FONT]

Haven\'t traded the RX-7 for a Cosmo then?

Quote from: Lisa

Hi Richard

I know you are disappointed,

[FONT="Comic Sans MS]but it is very rare that we cancel an event!.

We have been messed about concerning Billing and the full truth about MRC\'s invite has only finally come to light today.[/FONT]

Haven\'t traded the RX-7 for a Cosmo then?

Nowhere to go and no-one to buy the car, not a lot of point is there?

It\'s no joke when you live in the South West, every event means a commitment of at least 75 to 150 worth of fuel, and I just can\'t keep doing this when it always rains at Santa Pod.

Fed up with the whole car business, missed out on the V12 Mercedes, no local shows, just too many chavs and corsa\'s and nova\'s around here these days.

I don\'t know about you, but this whole business with clubs plainly disagreeing about who goes to what and when is symptomatic of how the whole scene has changed, and not for the better if you ask me.

Too many people trying to make money out of the Jap car scene, the shows were so much better 8 years ago, hardly any traders, and no money flying around.

Richard

Quote from: moakesrNowhere to go and no-one to buy the car, not a lot of point is there?

It\'s no joke when you live in the South West, every event means a commitment of at least 75 to 150 worth of fuel, and I just can\'t keep doing this when it always rains at Santa Pod.

Fed up with the whole car business, missed out on the V12 Mercedes, no local shows, just too many chavs and corsa\'s and nova\'s around here these days.

I don\'t know about you, but this whole business with clubs plainly disagreeing about who goes to what and when is symptomatic of how the whole scene has changed, and not for the better if you ask me.

Too many people trying to make money out of the Jap car scene, the shows were so much better 8 years ago, hardly any traders, and no money flying around.

Richard

No use taking it out on the club organisers, just dont go, easy.

I love traders going , somewhere to spend my money thats burning a hole in mi pocket :)

Quote from: moakesrIt\'s no joke when you live in the South West, every event means a commitment of at least 75 to 150 worth of fuel, and I just can\'t keep doing this when it always rains at Santa Pod.

What about the people who live in Scotland? Costs them a lot more and some people even come from abroad.

As for the weather at Santa Pod - is that a serious compliant?

Cant say im not dissapointed that we aint going to billing as me and the missus was gonna make it a nice weekend away from the kids in a hotel, but that said it aint nobodys fault sept for the numpty who invited us in the 1st place not Lisas who tryed to make a better event of it for us :)

Quote from: steve garbuttNo use taking it out on the club organisers, just dont go, easy.

I rest my case, as a founder member I have the right to comment on how things have changed, check your member number, mine is 5, I have the right to speak.

Richard

Quote from: AMHWhat about the people who live in Scotland? Costs them a lot more and some people even come from abroad.

As for the weather at Santa Pod - is that a serious compliant?

It is a serious complaint, there is nothing to do at Santa Pod when it rains, and believe me I have sat in the car at Santa Pod with it raining too many times.

I agree some people spend more, but I am fed up with wasting hundreds of pounds on fuel.

Richard

Quote from: moakesrI rest my case, as a founder member I have the right to comment on how things have changed, check your member number, mine is 5, I have the right to speak.

Richard

Nobody said you didnt have a right m8 :)

I can understand your pain if the events aint working for ya, but i dont think there is any blame here just missfortune.
Its ashame you aint enjoying it at the mo :(
You going on the to the club event on the 24th of this month , i am and am gonna enjoy it weather its raining or not :)
If ya are then introduce yourself m8 and am sure we can talk bo**cks and stuff haha :), would be a pleasure to meet ya :)

Quote from: moakesrIt is a serious complaint, there is nothing to do at Santa Pod when it rains, and believe me I have sat in the car at Santa Pod with it raining too many times.

I agree some people spend more, but I am fed up with wasting hundreds of pounds on fuel.

Richard

So if it is a serious compliant what do you expect the club to do about it? We can\'t do anything about the weather.

Yes you have every right to comment but some things are out of our control.

Quote from: AMHSo if it is a serious compliant what do you expect the club to do about it? We can\'t do anything about the weather.

Yes you have every right to comment but some things are out of our control.

I think we need to consider that the weather is unpredictable, and venues like Billing were perfect for coping with that fact, you could find something to do if it was raining, or retire to a dry tent.

With spiraling costs for fuel and accommodation, meeting up at venues like Santa Pod and Shakespeare raceway are a very big gamble for anyone who doesn\'t live within a 100 mile radius. These places are desolate at the best of times, and when it\'s raining, there is absolutely nothing to do.

I booked leave, and hotels for Billing, and whilst thankfully the hotel has been cancelled without cost, I doubt that I will be able to reclaim my leave, my employer isn\'t very flexible in that respect.

I am angry in general about this being cancelled, not angry with Lisa or Clive, believe me I should know how hard they have worked and do work on all our behalves.

Unfortunately, flippant comments will only pour fuel on the flames :flamed

Richard

Quote from: moakesrUnfortunately, flippant comments will only pour fuel on the flames :flamed

Is that aimed at me?

I don\'t believe I have said anything disrespectful and it was a serious challenge at a comment that I felt was inaccurate. If you really believe it always raining at Santa Pod then fair enough but I don’t agree and I don’t understand how that is the clubs fault.

Dear Richard, and all (I\'ve known you long enough to address you Dear :cool )

It has pained me tonight to see you so despondent with everything and can tell you that Lisa and myself have gone from elated that we were going back to Billing to being really really miffed that we have seemingly become the victim of some sort of sadistic hoax, and on top of that we are told by one of the clubs that they will "try" and accommodate MRC next year !

I totally aggree with you that the only reason that JAE Billing got dumped was because sombody saw MONEY in it!

My personal belief is that moving JAE to Peterborough was akin to trying to move Glastonbury to the Shetlands but they did it and I feel they tore the soul out of JAE by moving it.  

Many many clubs however have gone across to the inexplicably soulless Peterborough that not only has a fence around it like colditz but also gets exit gates locked at night and yet they have had a whale of a time with around I guesstimate 2,000 people with cars.

BUT MRC people hate it, because where as at Billing we attended with up to 130 cars the first year at Peterbough we had 25 "combined" across the whole weekend.

At the next AGM I voiced my opinian that I and Lisa had NO interest in going to JAE at  Peterbough for 2006 and did not feel that the club wanted it either but it was stated and aggreed by the members present that a "Rotary" presence should be at JAE and so off we went again with less that 20 turning up this time.

We have found that again and again It is all very well standing on the sidelines NOT supporting your clubs meetings by not attending but give this a little thought,

For Lisa and myself JAE is a three day affair because to ensure we are on the stand on time for MRC\'s members at events we travel to them the day before and whilst we have absolutely NO problem with doing this for the club it\'s damn soul destroying for both of us when nobody bothers to turn up!.

If lots of people want to go to JAE this year we have no problem organising a club stand but this is why the poll above however if we can\'t make a good Rotary showing we shall not attend.

I will leave you all with this thought, how about this,

Along with Richard I know Eddy was going to travel from Southern Ireland and it became evident that people still want to go to Billing so how about   Somebody out there contacting Billing and working around our events calender to hold a private MRC party of our own ?

Personally with Rotorstock (which seems to have got forgotten on this thread) we have not got the time to sort this one out but as I have said many times "it\'s your club " and anyone can organise anything for their club that they want.

Please vote carefully on this  poll  http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39698 and if you don\'t want to go to JAE or you want to go , say so because I feel that unless we take at least 50 cars both days we will again be a laughing stock amongst the big clubs that attend with lots of cars, Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.



BTW when negotiating to take R4 to Santa pod they wanted the same type of date that Rotorstock BUT I told them that they were going to accomadate R4 in the Summer when there was less chance of rain as we were fed up with wet Rotorstock meetings !

Firstly a big thankyou to Lisa and Clive for all the hard work they do...
 
It must be soul destroying when people don\'t show up for things, and I can understand your reticence to go to JAE given the attendance last year.
 
For my part, I had already booked to go to JAE with another club, on the understanding that MRC were not going to be attending.  For that reason I have not voted.
 
Having spoken with Steve Burns recently at one of our local meets, I got to learn quite a bit about the history behind JAE, as he was one of the original organisers.  The decision to move to Peterborough was partly due to the admin workload on one person, and no one coming forward to take that on, and partly Billing wanting to make more money out of the event and dictating terms to the organisers.  Agreed you are kind of \'locked in\' at Peterborough, but there was plenty going on and in some ways that arrangement provides a sense of security.
 
People seem more than willing to be critical of arranged meets, weather and what not, but how about more regional events.  I\'ve not been in this club or any other club for all that long a time, but already we have attended many of the larger meets, and have started a couple of our own as well.  As Clive sais, arrange some meets yourselves and see what happens - the worst that could happen is you go for a nice drive and have a good pub meal on your own - or it could turn out to be a really good club event.
 
:cheers