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Cars by Model Type => 3rd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: Jim_rx7 on March 25, 2007, 01:17:41 PM

Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: Jim_rx7 on March 25, 2007, 01:17:41 PM
My car is registered as a 2.6, but it is really a 1.3 so is there anyway to change it with the dvla?? I want cheaper road tax!!!! :)
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: rx7veilside on March 25, 2007, 02:32:21 PM
the answer is no and has been covered loads of times the car has been registered and nothing short of a letter from mazda uk stating it is a 1.3 will alter that..all uk rx7s were 2.6 and registered as such and the imports depended on who imported them.so u are stuck with a 2.6 i am afraid
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: allstaruk on March 25, 2007, 03:16:45 PM
Quote from: rx7veilsidethe answer is no and has been covered loads of times the car has been registered and nothing short of a letter from mazda uk stating it is a 1.3 will alter that..all uk rx7s were 2.6 and registered as such and the imports depended on who imported them.so u are stuck with a 2.6 i am afraid


I\'m sure its been done mate, there was thread about it on FDUK if I remember rightly they needed a letter from pip.

Al
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: rx7veilside on March 25, 2007, 03:28:24 PM
dont think they did as pip is only a tuner and dvla wont accept anything less than from manufacturer and am not aware of anyone getting it changed..if he does a search he wont finf anyone who got it changed..alan did u check ur paypal sent the money yesterday..thks
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: Bobfish on March 25, 2007, 03:46:11 PM
Write a letter to mazda asking them what the official capacity of a 13b-rew is.

Anything mroe than 1308cc is a lie.  It even says under the bonnet "2x654cc"
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: Bobfish on March 25, 2007, 03:47:06 PM
see thsi thread...

http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36473
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: mullins on March 26, 2007, 09:59:23 AM
Bobfish, it\'s not about actual capacity it\'s about fitting the RX into a like-for-like tax bracket in terms of output and emissions.
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: Bobfish on March 26, 2007, 10:11:21 AM
I agree mullins, but the V5 states "capacity" and not theoretical capacity and its based on that.

so therefore your well within your rights to register it as a 1308.
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: iaint on March 26, 2007, 10:25:18 AM
Static capacity vs opertaing capacity is what makes the 13b a 2.6 for tax purposes :)

(mine\'s a 1.3 though!)
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: mullins on March 26, 2007, 11:08:17 AM
Quote from: BobfishI agree mullins, but the V5 states "capacity" and not theoretical capacity and its based on that.

so therefore your well within your rights to register it as a 1308.

Because the V5 wasn\'t designed with rotaries in mind! With piston engines the capacity and the output are on par. I agree 1.3 is correct but i\'m sure the dvla know why it\'s done like this and wont budge.

Forgot to mention, Rotaries are penelised like this in racing classes too.
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: mullins on March 26, 2007, 11:12:17 AM
Quote from: iaintStatic capacity vs opertaing capacity is what makes the 13b a 2.6 for tax purposes :)

(mine\'s a 1.3 though!)

^ Probably the simpliest explanation i\'ve heard yet.

Anyway is there much difference in price of the tax disc?
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: iaint on March 26, 2007, 11:19:47 AM
Quote from: mullins^ Probably the simpliest explanation i\'ve heard yet.

Anyway is there much difference in price of the tax disc?

Less than the price of a tank of fuel.  I guess most people running a FD would object on principle rather than the financial reality.
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: chris on March 26, 2007, 03:57:07 PM
Quote from: rx7veilsidedont think they did as pip is only a tuner and dvla wont accept anything less than from manufacturer and am not aware of anyone getting it changed..if he does a search he wont finf anyone who got it changed..alan did u check ur paypal sent the money yesterday..thks


I managed to \'persuade\' the DVLA to change mine, took some copies of original sales broshures and after several refusals they eventually changed the taxation class for me, this was about 2 years ago:3gears-lh
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: Tim_B on March 26, 2007, 06:53:25 PM
When you get an engine rebuild could you get it \'rebuilt as a 1.3\'???  with a letter from whoever built it ;)
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: jpc on March 30, 2007, 11:53:20 AM
I wrote to the DLVA about this a couple of months ago with tech specs/manuals etc. They said they are reviewing how (all) rotary engines are classified and that they would not classify mine as a 1.3.

I\'ll dig out their official response if you want.

JPC.
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: interloper393 on March 30, 2007, 06:31:39 PM
update!! lol.. was at the dvla registering the starlets, asked the guy there, if its 1300, then its ok to register it as that, i thought it went by emmissions but they dont have all the data to do pre 98 cars on emmissions so i got away with it.. mines a 1.3 lol
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: Jim_rx7 on March 30, 2007, 09:32:47 PM
So can you change it from a 2.6 to a 1.3 ??
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: interloper393 on March 30, 2007, 09:35:08 PM
you cud always giv it a go, dont think it costs you anything man, giv it a wirl n see lol.. im 63 quid for 6 months tax :)
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: Jim_rx7 on March 30, 2007, 09:38:38 PM
£63!!!?!?!?!

Do you have to send of your V5?? How do you do it?
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: interloper393 on March 30, 2007, 10:20:39 PM
does your reg docs not have a change of details on the bck?
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: Crazy Eddie on March 31, 2007, 12:24:48 AM
Yeah on the V5 itself there is a change of details and this is where you would change the CC. I did this when I first bought mine and it still came back with 2.6 so I called them to complain and they then sent me a new 1 showing 1.3.
Having said this because of the RX8 and so the DVLA are going to be dealing with more rotaries I bet they won\'t not unless at point of SVA.

Quite a few FD owners are trying this now so I expect a letter though the post at some point changing back to 2.6 :(
They get you in the end!!!

(PS do a search and see what comes up :D sorry I know how much you love that responce :) )
Title: registered as a 2.6, can you change it to 1.3?
Post by: teabagger on April 02, 2007, 10:40:20 AM
Quote from: jpcThey said they are reviewing how (all) rotary engines are classified and that they would not classify mine as a 1.3.


JPC.


Uh oh. That doesn\'t sound good...