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Cars by Model Type => 3rd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: CharlieP on March 04, 2007, 11:03:02 PM

Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: CharlieP on March 04, 2007, 11:03:02 PM
Hi guys, just wanted to find out any race stories from people?
 
My dads got a BMW E92 Coupe 335D, and reckons it would leave an RX7 for dead.......!
Anyone care to comment?
 
So I challenged him to a track day, for when I get my RX7 in the next few months hopefully! :D
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: D1 WTF on March 04, 2007, 11:06:37 PM
a standard rex will just about out do a m3 hope.  on the road let alone on the track.  so tell him to stop being a muppet.
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: Rixio on March 04, 2007, 11:07:11 PM
Your dad is dreaming buddy :D
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: m4drx on March 04, 2007, 11:10:57 PM
hahahahahahhaahah :rollin
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: CharlieP on March 04, 2007, 11:11:32 PM
Cool, and one more thing, anyone near the Maidstone area who wouldn\'t mind showing me their RX? and have a chat about them?
cheers
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: n4bes on March 04, 2007, 11:11:59 PM
Meanwhile in the REAL world...................................
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: Warthog on March 04, 2007, 11:14:43 PM
Even with my fried gearbox, all he would see was my back end and flames when I changed up. It would be a distant view after the second change and his windscreen would be splattered with Pre-Mix. Ask anyone on here thats tried to follow me on a foot in convoy.:flamed
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: m4drx on March 04, 2007, 11:16:53 PM
Quote from: WarthogEven with my fried gearbox, all he would see was my back end and flames when I changed up. It would be a distant view after the second change and his windscreen would be splattered with Pre-Mix. Ask anyone on here thats tried to follow me on a foot in convoy.:flamed


i can vouch for this :Grrr and i was tailing in my rx! smug hogness
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: pete sparrow on March 04, 2007, 11:28:32 PM
Didnt someone admit to be being beaten by a BMW diesel on another thread last week? Think it was a 3.5cc twin turbo diesel that took him off the line and he only managed to real the bmw in at high speeds.Pretty sure it was andysmee?!?!
These new diesels are getting faster and faster! A mate of mine leant me his 330D 3 series and it was very impressive,ok not as fast as my rex,but still quick!
Only way you\'ll know for sure is if you race him! Oh and win!!!:)
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: RemarkLima on March 04, 2007, 11:36:41 PM
I wouldn\'t be so hasty guys! A friend of mine has a 330D with a DMS remap, makes 450 ft-lbs of torque, 6 speed box and a very very flat torque curve, just an absolute surge of power!

Admittedly they carry more weight, so unless you\'re pushing 300+ ft-lbs I\'d say you\'d be in trouble! One could easily catch you snoozing ;)

However on a track my money would be on a REX everytime, less weight, better suspension setup... But then I\'d say a a Caterham superlight with a fraction of that power would eat most cars except if there\'s enough straights ;)
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: Warthog on March 04, 2007, 11:48:10 PM
I\'ll be alright then -------  340 ft/lbs.:spank
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: m4drx on March 05, 2007, 12:09:31 AM
end of this month, next meet im shotgun! cant keep admiring from a distance mr hog getting jealous....

oh and mine is going to be very different too ;) lets just say im going to portsmouth and not to look at boats
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: Warthog on March 05, 2007, 12:31:21 AM
The young lad has seen the light he is going to make a payment to the God of POWER.:wave
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: royal on March 05, 2007, 12:51:49 AM
They\'ve got really powerful in those BMW diesels, 280bhp 0-60 in  6.2 secs (just checked geek website), I reckon that would give plenty of tired old standard rexs a run for there money, but wouldn\'t touch a good modded one. The M3/M5s are very fast though. M5 V10 500BHP anyone fancy ago (bar his hogness :-) ). They handle extremely well as well. I\'ve got a massive milage old 525i tourer and I can throw it round like any sports car. Back end out round corners, but completely balanced and almost impossible to lose it.
Title: Rex V Bmw
Post by: normski on March 05, 2007, 06:46:47 AM
Quote from: pete sparrowDidnt someone admit to be being beaten by a BMW diesel on another thread last week? Think it was a 3.5cc twin turbo diesel that took him off the line and he only managed to real the bmw in at high speeds.Pretty sure it was andysmee?!?!
These new diesels are getting faster and faster! A mate of mine leant me his 330D 3 series and it was very impressive,ok not as fast as my rex,but still quick!
Only way you\'ll know for sure is if you race him! Oh and win!!!:)

Ok I know a bit this BMW thing, As I have the 330D witha little chip upgrade. Puts it up to around 230 ish BHP. Ok we are also not talking top speed or corners here, But off the line, Most! standard gen 3 RX7\'s will not get past me on the quarter mile. High 13 seconds is about the average. As anyone who knows the rex will admit, 8 out of 10 standard 7\'s will not do much better than high 13 \'s or even into the 14\'s, But, I have to say, on a (DRY DAY) around a bend there is no contest, the rex will win! Now 335D is a even quicker, so fan of the rex I am, but a 335D BMW up against a standard gen3 REX, off the line to around the 100MPH straight line stuff, My money would be on the BMW, And 8 out of 10 runs the BMW would win.

I was only .2 behind a MR2 Turbo, Running around 13.8 (S) So don\'t be too ready to kick that 335D out as you my be supprised!:wave
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: m4drx on March 05, 2007, 08:00:18 AM
Quote from: WarthogThe young lad has seen the light he is going to make a payment to the God of POWER.:wave

more like a direct debit :WaveBye
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: Jame5 on March 05, 2007, 08:28:08 AM
My money would be on the beemer too. Standard RX7 against a 335d. I\'m well impressed with these diesel engines BMW are knocking out. The torque is huge.
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: antnicuk on March 05, 2007, 08:43:51 AM
I agree the beemer are great cars and wouldnt say there was much in it, i have both.      But........  you all seem to be forgetting one thing........... can his dad DRIVE, if so he could toast him in a Transit Van...... Sebine did it to Clarkson!   And the 3 series handles pretty well and definately inspires a lot more confidence than a rex.  

If your new to the car and not had a lot of experience with RWd cars, coupled with the fact that the BM may be a company car and driven a lot more my money is definately with the BM.     I am assuming that as your dad is young enough to want to race you, you are not that old.
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: CharlieP on March 05, 2007, 09:04:40 AM
The Coupe will be new, and his own car, it is the twin turbo, and  putting out 286bhp and around 390 N/m torque.
 
He has had many cars over the years, the old  Merc SL\'s, BMs etc, and does reckon hes he better driver than me (as more experienced)
 
I\'m not saying I am a better driver, but all I would want is to wait till the track day? I\'ve been drving since I was 8, and on the road for 3 years now (I know its not the same, but I\'m a much better motobike rider lol he changes gear way too early in a car too)
 
I\'m guessing as the cars are fairly well mattached power wise, it will be down to available power, and putting that power down to the road!??
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: Jono FD3 on March 05, 2007, 10:10:40 AM
How depressing is this thread....... were all saying a standard rex will be beeten by an oil burner:( something has got to be done about this!!!
But then most rex\'s are over 10 years old now!!!

Jono
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: probedb on March 05, 2007, 10:26:38 AM
I\'d say the beemer when compared to a standard FD as well. Bearing in mind some of our cars are up to 15 years old now and that unless they\'ve been taken care of really well they\'re not going to be as quick as they were new.
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: Oedipus Rex on March 05, 2007, 10:32:12 AM
I raced one of those 535D\'s a few times in my Rex. They\'re quick for sure but they ain\'t sports car quick. I think they run about 240bhp and have great torque but compared to a 276bhp and half the weight Rex they have no chance. The onlyu thing that might get you temporarily is the turbo lag, but once they\'re kicked in you\'re away.
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: antnicuk on March 05, 2007, 11:08:07 AM
they may way 50% more than a Rex but they have 50% more torque and a little more HP than a stock RX.
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: 666FLO on March 05, 2007, 11:11:23 AM
Quote from: D1 WTFa standard rex will just about out do a m3 hope.  on the road let alone on the track.  so tell him to stop being a muppet.

Seriosuly? someone told me I had no chance against an M3! Better go find out for myself I think! :D
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: ttpower on March 05, 2007, 11:14:24 AM
i destroyed my uncles yellow 2004 m3 smg2!!!!! there pooh!!!
Title: How does your RX compare?
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Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: ttpower on March 05, 2007, 11:19:37 AM
lol, i stay a long way from that type of stuff, just track stuff me, i have a fast car, why not race it!!! its not a saxo or punto :spank
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: 666FLO on March 05, 2007, 11:24:26 AM
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Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: anthony on March 06, 2007, 01:58:04 PM
Quote from: 666FLOSeriosuly? someone told me I had no chance against an M3! Better go find out for myself I think! :D

an m3 caught me out at the lights, i had 3 in my car (yes a passenger in the rear) all male, he had just his gf in his.
I thought he wasnt going to race , then he suddenly floored it and we were pritty much equal but he was slightly ahead, until he eased off for too early for the roundabout and i went past..

but yeah m3s arent too shabby
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: Oedipus Rex on March 06, 2007, 03:55:59 PM
I had an M3 behind me and he floored it. By the time I noticed he was level with me. I floored it and he kept getting away until I hit full boost and I slowly started to reel him in and I mean slowly. We got to the next roundabout and the slip onto our private motorway. We both floored it out of the the roundabout and down the slip, by the time we got to the bottom of the slip in the outside lane. I was in front and joined the motorway about half a cart length in front.
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: Bobfish on March 06, 2007, 06:45:05 PM
A standard rex will slowly catch a brand new M3 (ive done it)

round the corners there isnt a huge amount in it either, but these are roundabouts - not circuits so theres a huge difference there.

Get a good launch on your dad and you can call him a spastic the rest of his life - however, be wary as some people say, the torque on it may pip you to the post in a short race, sit a rex at 5krpm in 2nd gear next to a BM diesel at 3krpm in second adn punch it, you will hand his arse to him - however, if he catches you snoozing in 3rd at 30 he\'ll tear you a new bottom probably!
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: Rixio on March 07, 2007, 06:09:09 PM
M3 I hear...we destroyed one on the M62 back from Mascrat...flamed his azz...aint that right Jase ;)
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: andysmee on April 20, 2007, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: normskiOk I know a bit this BMW thing, As I have the 330D witha little chip upgrade. Puts it up to around 230 ish BHP. Ok we are also not talking top speed or corners here, But off the line, Most! standard gen 3 RX7\'s will not get past me on the quarter mile. High 13 seconds is about the average. As anyone who knows the rex will admit, 8 out of 10 standard 7\'s will not do much better than high 13 \'s or even into the 14\'s, But, I have to say, on a (DRY DAY) around a bend there is no contest, the rex will win! Now 335D is a even quicker, so fan of the rex I am, but a 335D BMW up against a standard gen3 REX, off the line to around the 100MPH straight line stuff, My money would be on the BMW, And 8 out of 10 runs the BMW would win.
 
I was only .2 behind a MR2 Turbo, Running around 13.8 (S) So don\'t be too ready to kick that 335D out as you my be supprised!:wave

Right, let\'s get one thing straight, before this turns into some urban myth...I didn\'t lose to the diesel and he had a rolling start as the lights changed and I was stationary. Having said that, my rex does the 1/4 in 13.5 so if what you say is right, the BMW is an embarrassingly good contender for my car.
 
Sad, but true. I only wish I hadn\'t posted it coz no-one else here would admit to it if it happened to them.
 
Now can we please not mention this again, and not on a third forum either :Grrr
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: DC-TYPER on April 20, 2007, 07:49:10 PM
i just left working for bmw, there over rated germen poo!
 
my rex mullered the whole range
 
and it didnt brake down (like the bmw\'s   lol)
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: yamaster on April 20, 2007, 10:21:12 PM
my dad just got a BMW e46 m3 with SMG box.  will be going up agaistn the rex some day soon. i better bet him:3gears-lh
Title: How does your RX compare?
Post by: DC-TYPER on April 20, 2007, 11:22:54 PM
yeh well my dads better than your dad, if your not carefull ill get my grandad   neh!
 
lol