Right then guys...... I\'m going to make a new carryer for the Power FC commander unit, as I think the solutions up until now have been POOOO because of visible wires & it hanging off the dash!!! This is a basic image of what I\'ve got in my head so if you could let me know if you would be interested in one, just so I know how many I would be needing to make!!!!
Price would be around the £35 mark deliverd!!!
Basicaly the unit is dropped in to a recess so all you can see is the screen sticking out of the dash, & if you want to alter any settings you just lift the commander out, tap the buttons then drop it back in to the holder!! Doing it this way you dont see any wires hanging around which I hate with a passion!!!
The unit will be turned to face the driver, rather than sitting the way it is in the pic, just working with photos I couldnt manipulate the immage correctly!!!!
They are going to be made in GRP and would need a spray with a can of paint so that it matches your dash......... or car colour!!
Add your names if your interested in one:
Cheers
Jono
LIST HERE:
1) Jono (I\'m going to make one for myself anyway!!)
Similar sort of idea to what I\'ve thought about...i.e. putting it where your gauges are in that pic :)
How does it work...????.....
Hard 2 tell with the picture..
i might be interested but i would prefer to see it turned to face the driver more.
matt
Basicaly the unit is dropped in to a recess so all you can see is the screen sticking out of the dash. & if you want to aulter any settings you just lift the commander out, tap the buttons then drop it back in to the holder!!
Yea the unit will be turned to face the driver...... just working with photos I couldnt manipulate the immage correctly!!!!
Jono
Quote from: Jono FD3Add your names if your interested in one:
LIST HERE:
1) Jono (I\'m going to make one for myself anyway!!)
2) Alex - What a bloody good idea, recessed is the way forward :yes
Count me in for one.
Alex
Excellent idea Jono.
I take it it will not interfere with the vent at all ?
Put me down.
LIST HERE:
1) Jono (I\'m going to make one for myself anyway!!)
2) Alex - What a bloody good idea, recessed is the way forward
3) Strange_days_UK
4) KJ_MC - Excellent Idea, mines still rolling around on the passenger seat!!
Quote from: strange_days_ukExcellent idea Jono.
I take it it will not interfere with the vent at all ?
Put me down.
The vent will still be opperational, althought the air direction will not be moovable!!! I\'m going to mould it as a louver, as the whole centre vent will be replaced with GRP moulding!! This vent only ever blows cold air so it isn\'t going to affect the commander in any way!!
Jono
Yes put me down for one. How long do you think your turn around will be?
Cheers Garith.
It looks good, would of had one if I hadnt already have bought an RMagic solution. I would suggest anyone who wants one to put up there email addy so Jono can get hold of you. It wont be long before one of the vendors kicks up a fuss and this thread gets removed :(
but jono is a vendor
nice idear this :) i`d just get the girl to hold mine :D the commander that is:mmmm
Correct D1, I am a vendor: D\'Sign Studio!!!
it\'s probably going to be in the new year I\'ll be ready to nock them out as I have to make the plug & mould first!!!!
as said above by mark, ATTACH YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSES SO I CAN LET YOU KNOW WHEN THEY ARE READY FOR DELIVERY!!!!!
Hopeing for Jan 2007!!!
Jono
Quote from: Jono FD3This vent only ever blows cold air so it isn\'t going to affect the commander in any way!!
Your vent only blows cold air...?
I did wonder that but noticed under your name it didnt say vendor like the others do?
Quote from: Jono FD3Correct D1, I am a vendor: D\'Sign Studio!!!
Jono
Quote from: MimsYour vent only blows cold air...?
Doesn\'t yours:confused: mine blows hot from every other position, apart from the "face position", thought this was normal????
Anyway, how oftern do people move them from the screen??? Mine never does:Giggle !!
Mark.... I\'ve got 2 accounts mate, this is the one before I became a vendor. dont use the D\'Sign Studio one that oftern as I find it easyer to just use the one!!!
Jono
my E-mail garithjohnson@hotmail.com
Cheers Garith.
LIST HERE:
1) Jono (I\'m going to make one for myself anyway!!)
2) Alex - What a bloody good idea, recessed is the way forward
3) Strange_days_UK
4) KJ_MC - Excellent Idea, mines still rolling around on the passenger seat!!
5) Aikio - jeg@girfaen.org - If shipping to Norway isn\'t a problem.
Quote from: AikioAikio - jeg@girfaen.org - If shipping to Norway isn\'t a problem.
Is you\'s a left hand drive mate??? if not... cant see a problem although the carrage may be a little bit more!!
Jono
LIST HERE:
1) Jono (I\'m going to make one for myself anyway!!)
2) Alex - What a bloody good idea, recessed is the way forward
3) Strange_days_UK
4) KJ_MC - Excellent Idea, mines still rolling around on the passenger seat!!
5) Aikio - jeg@girfaen.org - If shipping to Norway isn\'t a problem.
6) Gasejo garithjohnson@hotmail.com
LIST HERE:
1) Jono (I\'m going to make one for myself anyway!!)
2) Alex - What a bloody good idea, recessed is the way forward
3) Strange_days_UK
4) KJ_MC - Excellent Idea, mines still rolling around on the passenger seat!!
5) Aikio - jeg@girfaen.org - If shipping to Norway isn\'t a problem.
6) Gasejo garithjohnson@hotmail.com
7) Michaelb (need one asap as getting my PFC and commander next week
Regards,
Michaelb
Quote from: michaelbLIST HERE:
1) Jono (I\'m going to make one for myself anyway!!)
2) Alex - Alex250bhp@aol.com What a bloody good idea, recessed is the way forward
3) Strange_days_UK
4) KJ_MC - Excellent Idea, mines still rolling around on the passenger seat!!
5) Aikio - jeg@girfaen.org - If shipping to Norway isn\'t a problem.
6) Gasejo garithjohnson@hotmail.com
7) Michaelb (need one asap as getting my PFC and commander next week
Regards,
Michaelb
Cheers
Alex
Quote from: Jono FD3Is you\'s a left hand drive mate??? if not... cant see a problem although the carrage may be a little bit more!!
Jono
No... it\'s a RHD from Japan... So that will work out great...
1) Jono (I\'m going to make one for myself anyway!!)
2) Alex - Alex250bhp@aol.com What a bloody good idea, recessed is the way forward
3) Strange_days_UK
4) KJ_MC - Excellent Idea, mines still rolling around on the passenger seat!!
5) Aikio - jeg@girfaen.org - If shipping to Norway isn\'t a problem.
6) Gasejo garithjohnson@hotmail.com
7) Michaelb (need one asap as getting my PFC and commander next week
8) Arrouk
Blinkin hek, Think I\'m going to have to get on to this job prety soon then!!!!
Cheers for the responce guys, keep em coming!!
Love you all (but not in the gay way!!!!)
Jono
Just to stress you up even more and apply more pressure (LOL)
Any idea on time scale?
Regards,
Michaelb
Quote from: Jono FD3Blinkin hek, Think I\'m going to have to get on to this job prety soon then!!!!
Cheers for the responce guys, keep em coming!!
Love you all (but not in the gay way!!!!)
Jono
AAAhhhhhhh ;) it\'ll probably take me about 2 weeks to make the moulds, then it should be all systems go, you can have the first one Michael as you were one of the first to commit on my last thread about this.
(If you can wait that long that it???)
Jono
No Problem. Thanks for that. Cannot wait....
Please supply some simple instructions to do with fitment or pass on your fitment experience since you will be really the one who will try the prototype…
I await the product. I think that you actually got something that will be in great demand…..the commander just “stuck” to the dashboard looks so odd…
Regards,
Michaelb
Quote from: Jono FD3AAAhhhhhhh ;) it\'ll probably take me about 2 weeks to make the moulds, then it should be all systems go, you can have the first one Michael as you were one of the first to commit on my last thread about this.
(If you can wait that long that it???)
Jono
hi jono,
put me down for one aswell , looks like a good idea and even better because my vent is broken anyway! ha ha!!!
1) Jono (I\'m going to make one for myself anyway!!)
2) Alex - Alex250bhp@aol.com What a bloody good idea, recessed is the way forward
3) Strange_days_UK
4) KJ_MC - Excellent Idea, mines still rolling around on the passenger seat!!
5) Aikio - jeg@girfaen.org - If shipping to Norway isn\'t a problem.
6) Gasejo garithjohnson@hotmail.com
7) Michaelb (need one asap as getting my PFC and commander next week
8) Arrouk
9) Jovic82 - Jovic82@hotmail.com
cheers
Nick
Put me down to mate! Beats the crappy halfords phone holder i got mine in at the moment!
1) Jono (I\'m going to make one for myself anyway!!)
2) Alex - Alex250bhp@aol.com What a bloody good idea, recessed is the way forward
3) Strange_days_UK
4) KJ_MC - Excellent Idea, mines still rolling around on the passenger seat!!
5) Aikio - jeg@girfaen.org - If shipping to Norway isn\'t a problem.
6) Gasejo garithjohnson@hotmail.com
7) Michaelb (need one asap as getting my PFC and commander next week
8) Arrouk
9) Jovic82 - Jovic82@hotmail.com
10) Lum90- Lum90@blueyonder.co.uk
jono can u send me a piccie mgdesigns@blueyonder.co.uk
i cant see the pic but im interested.
thanks
Post from newbie...but eh? what exactly is everyone getting excited about here?
Is it the square thingy and if it is how on earth are you going to get that nicely situated into the vent thing.
The other question which everyone seems to know about is...what exactly does it do?
copied this from a web site selling Power FC, have a read...
The Power FC is a stand alone, total engine management system. The Power FC replaces the factory ECU and controls all engine parameters. Installation is simply replacing the factory ECU (Some minor wiring alterations may be required on some vehicles). Using the factory wiring loom, all standard accessories like the air conditioning will continue to function. By changing various parameters and data (from multiple point fuel and ignition control to variable valve timing engagement and boost settings), the Power FC will adapt to the vehicles specific characteristics. The Power FC also comes preprogrammed with several base maps. (Currently with Japan Domestic Market Vehicle Maps. Minor initial tuning may be required). This makes the initial tuning process much quicker. As with all other fuel controllers, the POWER FC should be tuned on a dynomometer by a trained professional. A high grade air/ fuel ratio monitor is also recommended during tuning to ensure best results.
Monitor Mode:
The Commander can display up to 10 parameters of data in real time. Monitor Mode can display:
Engine RPM
Ignition Timing
Vehicle Speed
Air Flow Voltage (Pressure Sensor Voltage)
Injector Duty Cycle
Boost
Knocking Level
Battery Voltage
Intake Air Temp
Water Temp
In addition, there are 4 display patterns allowing 1-8 parameters to be shown on screen at once. The data displays in numerical real time values with the option of a real time 10 second graph display. Peak Hold values and Display Hold functions only require the touch of a button. The Map Trace Mode allows Ghost Map Tracing of the Fuel Correction and Ignition Timing maps. This allows the user to visually see what point of the map is being used in real time. The Ghost Map Trace function leaves markers on the used portions of the map for easy reference.
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Setting Mode:
Allows full access to the 20x20 ignition timing and fuel correction maps. The user can adjust any portion of this map in 5x5 sections. Air flow correction values can be entered for vehicles upgrading air flow meters. Injector pulse correction menu is used when upgrading injectors on the engine. The Acceleration Enrichment Correction function improves response under hard and sudden acceleration. The Cranking Fuel Injection menu corrects the amount of fuel when the engine is being cranked, or when the water temperature is cold. A separate Water Temp menu allows fuel correction according to water temperature. The RPM menu allows rev limiter settings and idle RPM levels. Access menus also vary according to specialty engines.
Rotary engine Power FC\'s accommodate leading and trailing ignition maps. Honda engines Power FC\'s allow for VTEC control. Complete boost control is possible by using the optional Boost Control Kit.
I hope this helps
Regards,
Michaelb
Quote from: clandestinePost from newbie...but eh? what exactly is everyone getting excited about here?
Is it the square thingy and if it is how on earth are you going to get that nicely situated into the vent thing.
The other question which everyone seems to know about is...what exactly does it do?
Thanks Michael, much appreciated...to be honest an awful lot of that has gone straight over my head and unless you are racing I can\'t understand why anyone would change power or airflow settings.
However, the monitor modes look like they could really be useful...I\'m obviously talking about -
Engine RPM
Vehicle Speed
Battery Voltage
Intake Air Temp
Water Temp
Now those I can understand...the others...well I guess I had better do a bit more reading :)
I am sure the expert here can put it in a better way for you but fundamentally when you start modifying the car (engine) you have to alter / up fuel and other parametrics.
The standard stock ECU does not allow you to do that. After market ECU like the one we are talking about allows a tuner to map the car according to the modifications.
Indecently the stock temperature gauge is useless, by the time the needle goes up it is probably too late and you have damaged the engine â€" big bill.
You can monitor water temp on the commander.
I also have after market gauges installed and one of them is water temp (in case the engine is over heating)
Regards,
Michaelb
Quote from: clandestineThanks Michael, much appreciated...to be honest an awful lot of that has gone straight over my head and unless you are racing I can\'t understand why anyone would change power or airflow settings.
However, the monitor modes look like they could really be useful...I\'m obviously talking about -
Engine RPM
Vehicle Speed
Battery Voltage
Intake Air Temp
Water Temp
Now those I can understand...the others...well I guess I had better do a bit more reading :)
Hi Jono FD3,
Just a quick post mainly to see how this project is coming along and if you have an update on time frame. Still very interested. Hope to hear from you soon.(E-Mail addy garithjohnson@hotmail.com )
Cheers Garith.
1) Jono (I\'m going to make one for myself anyway!!)
2) Alex - Alex250bhp@aol.com What a bloody good idea, recessed is the way forward
3) Strange_days_UK strange_days_uk@yahoo.co.uk
4) KJ_MC - Excellent Idea, mines still rolling around on the passenger seat!!
5) Aikio - jeg@girfaen.org - If shipping to Norway isn\'t a problem.
6) Gasejo garithjohnson@hotmail.com
7) Michaelb (need one asap as getting my PFC and commander next week
8) Arrouk
9) Jovic82 - Jovic82@hotmail.com
10) Lum90- Lum90@blueyonder.co.uk
Quote from: GaseJoHi Jono FD3,
Just a quick post mainly to see how this project is coming along and if you have an update on time frame. Still very interested. Hope to hear from you soon.(E-Mail addy garithjohnson@hotmail.com )
Cheers Garith.
Going to be sorting out the plug this week so I\'m hopeing to be all set for just after xmas, with the first batch deliverd very early in the new year!!
Jono
Just to keep you all up to date.........
I\'ve been working on this for a few evenings now and the plug should be done by the weekend. this means I should have the moulds made by Christmas. unfortunatly I\'m away with my good lady for Xmas & new Year otherwise I would start to make them befor Jan!!!
So I\'m expecting the frist one to be out of the mould & sent to Michealb by about the 5th, then I\'ll go hell for leather to get more made for the rest of you guys \'n Girls!!!
Jono
put me down for one of these too mate im paul.tease@btinternet.com just gimme a mail n let me kno when it goes ahead
think i`ll have one aswell as having trouble seeing through the glove box lol
mhosey31@hotmail.com
1) Jono (I\'m going to make one for myself anyway!!)
2) Alex - Alex250bhp@aol.com What a bloody good idea, recessed is the way forward
3) Strange_days_UK strange_days_uk@yahoo.co.uk
4) KJ_MC - Excellent Idea, mines still rolling around on the passenger seat!!
5) Aikio - jeg@girfaen.org - If shipping to Norway isn\'t a problem.
6) Gasejo garithjohnson@hotmail.com
7) Michaelb (need one asap as getting my PFC and commander next week
8) Arrouk
9) Jovic82 - Jovic82@hotmail.com
10) Lum90- Lum90@blueyonder.co.uk
11)COUNTZERO1978 - paul.tease@btinternet.com
12) Mikeyh - mhosey31@hotmail.com
Hi Jono
Sound good, nice to be the first one…
Indecently, any news on my door stacks?
Regards,
Michaelb
Quote from: michaelbHi Jono
Sound good, nice to be the first one…
Indecently, any news on my door stacks?
Regards,
Michaelb
No worries on them mate........ Just waiting for the sizes of the Momo logo :2Rolleyes
Once I\'ve got that I\'ll get the others cut for ya.
Jono
genius idea! put me down fr one ,flatty(dmccruisers@yaho.com)
1) Jono (I\'m going to make one for myself anyway!!)
2) Alex - Alex250bhp@aol.com What a bloody good idea, recessed is the way forward
3) Strange_days_UK strange_days_uk@yahoo.co.uk
4) KJ_MC - Excellent Idea, mines still rolling around on the passenger seat!!
5) Aikio - jeg@girfaen.org - If shipping to Norway isn\'t a problem.
6) Gasejo garithjohnson@hotmail.com
7) Michaelb (need one asap as getting my PFC and commander next week
8) Arrouk
9) Jovic82 - Jovic82@hotmail.com
10) Lum90- Lum90@blueyonder.co.uk
11)COUNTZERO1978 - paul.tease@btinternet.com
12) Mikeyh - mhosey31@hotmail.com
13) flatty dmccruisers@yaho.com
Did some final measuring last nite and I\'m happy to say that I will be able to sink the section that holds the buttons in to the dash (as in the initial pic I posted) so all you will be able to see is the screen on top of the dash :)
Jono
Quote from: Jono FD3No worries on them mate........ Just waiting for the sizes of the Momo logo :2Rolleyes
Once I\'ve got that I\'ll get the others cut for ya.
Jono
Hi
Can I see the proofs / designes? They were in charcoal...
Regards,
Michaelb
Right then guys, this is what the plug is looking like at the moment!
Not quite finished it yet..... going to try and reduce the hight where the commander unit actualy sits, but the basics are there!!!
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/jonathandudley/PC220084.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/jonathandudley/PC220085.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/jonathandudley/PC220086.jpg)
What you recon???
Jono
lookin good !!
good stuff matey, will the slates be cut out and still allow air flow through?
sorry if its already been asked
cheers
Nick
Yea, you will be able to cut the vents so it\'s an cavtive unit!!
Jono
Rite then people...... I\'ve run behind scedual a little!!!!
I\'m in the middle of waxing up the plug so that means in 4 days the mould will be finished and ready to start nocking out the finished artical!!!
As soon as I get the first one out of the mould I shal email / PM you all to let you know & I\'ll also attach some pics so you can see the final product!!
Cheers for your patience
Jono
Quote from: Jono FD3Rite then people...... I\'ve run behind scedual a little!!!!
I\'m in the middle of waxing up the plug so that means in 4 days the mould will be finished and ready to start nocking out the finished artical!!!
As soon as I get the first one out of the mould I shal email / PM you all to let you know & I\'ll also attach some pics so you can see the final product!!
Cheers for your patience
Jono
Jono man !!!!!!! When you are ready.... what colour is it going to be, black ?
Regards,
Michaelb
I\'ll have to see what colour gell I have...... think I\'ve only got yellow!!!! so a light rub down with 1200 wet n dry, and a wipe over with some paint thinners or petrol to remove the releas wax & a can of spray paint of your chosen colour!!!
Jono
Just to keep you gents posted:
The mould for this is now complete.... I\'m waxing it up as we speek!!
I\'m hopeing to get the first one out of the mould early part of next week, when I shall do a fitment test in my FD, logging each fitment step with pics & explenations of what to do!!
Fingers crossed this project will work out well, & look the muts nuts when finished!!!
I\'m going to try and get some dark grey or black gell, as this will save any painting (Unless you want to colour code it to the car) so it will jut be the fitting you will have to do!!
:guinness
Jono
Top dog Jon
Looking forward to this..:cheers
Great news !!!!!!!!! can\'t wait
Cheers Garith.
...anticipation is killing me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Regards,
Michaelb
Hiya mate,
Hows the install of the holder going?
How long until you are ready to roll on full production?
Cheers Garith.
Well, I was hoping to be in prodution now mate, but my work vehicle desided to throw a spanner in the works by blowing the head gasket!!!! She is going to be finished tonight Then I\'m going to mould the first one & give a full lowdown on how to install the unit, so hopefuly by the weekend you should have a fitment guide & a peek at the finished article!!
Appologies for the second delay!!
Hopefuly it wont happen again!!!
Jono
No problem mate i am just looking forward to getting one.
Cheers Garith.
sounds good...by the way Jono, the apexi door stack is now on my car and it looks the business
Thanks again
Regards,
Michaelb
Hi again,
On a different subject i should have mine registered soon so will be looking for number plates. I notice you do stick on\'s have you any information on them.
Cheers Garith.
Yea mate: Smallest text you can use is 64mm on an import with the Std UK being 74mm up to 84mm!!
The plate is black text on a reflective white backing so conforms to the UK regs. basicaly all I need is your reg and if you would like your log in name at the bottom of the plate!!
£12 deliverd
Jono
Hi Jono,
Just so happens i received my registration on Saturday. So your timing is impecible ! can i have your Paypal address so i can order.
Cheers Garith.
Paypal: rhi@d-signstudio.com
Jono
Hi Jono,
Payment sent for number plate.
Cheers Garith.
Jono , i keep forgetting about this plate i want doing so i\'ve sent you a pm ok bud?
Had a slight cock up today!!!
Went to release the first moulding from the mould.... only to find the release wax didn\'t do it\'s job:Grrr the result is a damaged mould which I will repair over the nex few days & hopefuly get a nice clean fresh moulding out by the end of the week!!!
Not a happy bunnie!!!!
Jono
cheers for the update JD
Hi Jono,
Any update on the Holder?
Cheers Garith.
All in controle now my good freind.... going to be gelling up the mould tonight to get the first solid prototype out wednesday!!! Fitting instructions will be up by the weekend & hopefully there will be a second moulding out the weekend for MichealB then I\'ll start to bang them out for the rest of you guys on the list!!
Jono
Hi Jono
I am half dead with anticipation by now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Regards,
Michaelb
Jon,
I am ready to send the money. Just confirm for me how easy these will be to fit..
Cheers, Simon..
Any pics yet..............................:wave
Here\'s a link to the pics & fitting guide I did yesterday evening:
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34411
Fitting guide is going to be a little more in depth once I\'ve got mine sorted & in!!!
Jono