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Cars by Model Type => 1st generation RX-7's => Topic started by: yoeddynz on September 30, 2006, 09:35:44 PM

Title: Why is this not selling?...
Post by: yoeddynz on September 30, 2006, 09:35:44 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&item=150038200977&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

Why oh why is such a nice car with a long ticket and a fresh motor not getting any bids!!! Back in NZ this car would easily fetch $8000 at least!
Boy am I tempted- now wheres my credit card?....
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Post by: shaunwil on September 30, 2006, 10:30:46 PM
Haven\'t a clue why it hasn\'t sold. Maybe was a much bigger reserve before. I\'ve just bought one off alan for similar money and it still needs a bit spending on it !

Go on, these cars are very cool !

Shaun
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Post by: Adriansturgess on October 01, 2006, 12:33:34 AM
Tempted myself at 500 quid....but difficult to know what you are getting into in terms of expenditure to keep it sweet.
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Post by: onelastpost on October 01, 2006, 08:56:53 AM
What kind of performance does the fc have?
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Post by: elford_tim on October 01, 2006, 09:13:00 AM
Quote from: onelastpostWhat kind of performance does the fc have?

Erm, you realise that this is not an FC?
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Post by: elford_tim on October 01, 2006, 09:18:07 AM
My thoughts, after reading the ebay listing again:


It\'s also not exactly the right season for selling toys so I\'m not surprised although I hope someone (not me...) would stick a bid in as good 1st gens are getting harder to come by.

Just my 2p...
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Post by: onelastpost on October 01, 2006, 12:33:14 PM
Quote from: elford_timErm, you realise that this is not an FC?


I thought mine was an FD and earlier cars were FC, excuse my ignorance - that makes me worse than an RX8 driver that doesnt know what an RX7 is!!
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Post by: elford_tim on October 01, 2006, 05:27:54 PM
Quote from: onelastpostI thought mine was an FD and earlier cars were FC, excuse my ignorance - that makes me worse than an RX8 driver that doesnt know what an RX7 is!!

:)  Yours is indeed an FD (it\'s the one in your avatar, right?). FCs are also known as the \'2nd generation\' aka the wedge and are unsurprisingly enough the predecessor of the FD. Can\'t remember what the code for the 1st generation is but it\'s a different code again...

At least you recognised it as an RX-7 :Laugh
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Post by: mpk490p on October 01, 2006, 07:03:54 PM
Quote from: elford_tim:)  Yours is indeed an FD (it\'s the one in your avatar, right?). FCs are also known as the \'2nd generation\' aka the wedge and are unsurprisingly enough the predecessor of the FD. Can\'t remember what the code for the 1st generation is but it\'s a different code again...

At least you recognised it as an RX-7 :Laugh

FB\'s
that one is a series 1 gen 3 with rear disc\'s LSD axle and a couple of other changes 4 x 114 PCD

Mark
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Post by: yoeddynz on October 01, 2006, 07:32:06 PM
well it didnt sell- and he replied to some questions of mine..said the rust is just some bubbles showing up. The engine apparantly has paperwork with it.
Engine looks clean and tidy which is some thing.
If I wasnt broke from buying a \'77 triumph estate, a rusty rx7 and a chevette in the last two weeks i\'d snap it up!
I like the colour too.
alex
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Post by: Grizzly on October 01, 2006, 10:10:16 PM
Yeh, The Bottom seems to have droped out of the RX7 market at the moment. There are Decent First gen\'s going for low Hundreds.
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Post by: Adriansturgess on October 01, 2006, 10:13:51 PM
Trouble is, as with all RX7\'s..... buying one is the cheap bit....;)
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Post by: flectron on October 02, 2006, 08:03:13 AM
It\'s now in the club ;)
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Post by: elford_tim on October 02, 2006, 08:35:21 AM
Ah, cool :-)
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Post by: oldone on October 02, 2006, 08:50:46 AM
Quote from: flectronIt\'s now in the club ;)
Good news !!!!!!!!!!.................:D
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Post by: yoeddynz on October 02, 2006, 01:52:49 PM
I presume you mean you bought it?....cool. another one saved then from being bought by some one who doesnt care- running it hard, wreaking it and scraping it.

good one!:yes

The fellas back home would kill to buy such cheap rotarys!!!
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Post by: flectron on October 02, 2006, 02:12:27 PM
Quote from: yoeddynzI presume you mean you bought it?....cool. another one saved then from being bought by some one who doesnt care- running it hard, wreaking it and scraping it.

good one!:yes

The fellas back home would kill to buy such cheap rotarys!!!
Yeah, spoke to the bloke last night and agreed a sale. I won\'t be picking it up til next week, but he\'s led me to believe it\'s very straight, well maintained and immaculate underneath. It\'s got less than 80k on the chassis and less than 1500k on the lump. The rust is just small scabs around the sunroof I think, the rear window thingy doesn\'t stay up on it\'s own, and a doorcard is peeling slightly. He was well p1ssed off with the guy that listed it for him for doing such a half-assed job.
He told me of an alarm/light that comes on w/ignition, that stays on til water is up to temp. He tells me it\'s not a fault - is he right?
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Post by: mad gray on October 03, 2006, 09:47:03 AM
First generation (SA/FB)
·   Series 1 (1979â€"1980) is referred to as the "SA22C". This series of RX-7 had exposed steel bumpers and a high-mounted license plate located in an indented part of the rear of the car, famously criticized by Werner Buhrer of Road & Track magazine as a "Baroque depression."
·   Series 2 (1981â€"1983) had smoothly integrated plastic-covered bumpers, wide black rubber body side moldings, wraparound taillights and updated engine control components. The GSL package provided optional 4-wheel disc brakes and clutch-type rear limited slip differential (LSD). The "FB" designation was only used in North America after the US Department of Transportation mandated 17 digit Vehicle Identification Numbers. Elsewhere in the world, the RX-7 kept the SA22C designation until the 1986 model year (second generation).
·   Series 3 (1984â€"1985) featured an updated lower front fascia and different instrument cluster (the S3 RX-7 is the only rotary-engined car to not have a centrally mounted tachometer). GSL package was continued into this series, but Mazda introduced the GSL-SE sub-model. The GSL-SE had a fuel injected 1.3 L 13B-RESI engine producing 135 hp (101 kW) and 135 lb-ft. GSL-SEs had much the same options as the GSL (clutch-type rear LSD and rear disc brakes), but the brake rotors were larger, allowing Mazda to use the more common lug nuts (versus bolts), and a new bolt pattern of 4x114.3 (4x4.5"). Also, they had upgraded suspension with stiffer springs and shocks, and a new, heavy duty oil cooler.
Second generation (FC)
·   Series 4 (1986â€"1988) was available with a naturally aspirated, fuel-injected 13B-VDEI producing 146 hp (108 kW). An optional turbocharged model, known as the Turbo II, had 182 hp (141 kW).
·   Series 5 (1989â€"1992) featured updated styling and better engine management, as well as lighter rotors and a higher compression ratio, 9.7:1 for the naturally aspirated model, and 9.0:1 for the turbo model. The Turbo II moniker was dropped, and the turbocharged model was simply dubbed Turbo. The naturally aspirated Series 5 FC made 160 hp (119 kW), while the Series 5 Turbo made 200 hp (147 kW).



Third generation (FD)
·   Series 6 (1992â€"1995) was exported throughout the world and had the highest sales. In Japan, Mazda sold the RX-7 through its Efini brand as the Efini RX-7. Only the 1993â€"1995 model years were sold in the U.S. and Canada.
·   Series 7 (1996â€"1998) included minor changes to the car. Updates included a simplified vacuum routing manifold and a 16-bit ECU allowing for increased boost which netted an extra 10 hp. In Japan, the Series 7 RX-7 was marketed under the Mazda brand name. The Series 7 was also sold in Australia, New Zealand and the U.K. Series 7 RX-7s were produced only in right-hand-drive configuration.
·   Series 8 (January 1999â€" August 2002) was the final series, and was initially only available in the Australian and European markets. More efficient turbochargers were installed, while improved intercooling and radiator cooling was made possible by a revised frontal area. The seats, steering wheel, and front and rear lights were all changed. The rear wing was modified and gained adjustability. The top-of-the-line "Type RS" came equipped with a Bilstein suspension and 17" wheels as standard equipment, and reduced weight to 1280 kg. Power was officially claimed as 280 ps (276 hp, 208 kW) (with 330 N·m (243 ft·lbf) of torque) as per the maximum Japanese limit, though realistic power was more likely 220â€"230 kW (290â€"308 hp). The Type RZ version included all the features of the Type RS, but at a lighter weight (at 1270 kg). It also featured custom gun-metal colored BBS wheels and a custom red racing themed interior. Further upgrades included a new 16-bit ECU and ABS system upgrades. The improved ABS system worked by braking differently on each wheel, allowing the car better turning during braking. The effective result made for safer driving for the average buyer. Easily the most collectible of all the RX-7s was the last 1,500 run-out specials. Dubbed the "Spirit R", they combined all the "extra" features Mazda had used on previous limited-run specials and all sold within days of being announced. They still command amazing prices on the Japanese used car scene years later.


But any RX is cool to be seen in
Title: Why is this not selling?...
Post by: mad gray on October 03, 2006, 09:47:08 AM
First generation (SA/FB)
·   Series 1 (1979â€"1980) is referred to as the "SA22C". This series of RX-7 had exposed steel bumpers and a high-mounted license plate located in an indented part of the rear of the car, famously criticized by Werner Buhrer of Road & Track magazine as a "Baroque depression."
·   Series 2 (1981â€"1983) had smoothly integrated plastic-covered bumpers, wide black rubber body side moldings, wraparound taillights and updated engine control components. The GSL package provided optional 4-wheel disc brakes and clutch-type rear limited slip differential (LSD). The "FB" designation was only used in North America after the US Department of Transportation mandated 17 digit Vehicle Identification Numbers. Elsewhere in the world, the RX-7 kept the SA22C designation until the 1986 model year (second generation).
·   Series 3 (1984â€"1985) featured an updated lower front fascia and different instrument cluster (the S3 RX-7 is the only rotary-engined car to not have a centrally mounted tachometer). GSL package was continued into this series, but Mazda introduced the GSL-SE sub-model. The GSL-SE had a fuel injected 1.3 L 13B-RESI engine producing 135 hp (101 kW) and 135 lb-ft. GSL-SEs had much the same options as the GSL (clutch-type rear LSD and rear disc brakes), but the brake rotors were larger, allowing Mazda to use the more common lug nuts (versus bolts), and a new bolt pattern of 4x114.3 (4x4.5"). Also, they had upgraded suspension with stiffer springs and shocks, and a new, heavy duty oil cooler.
Second generation (FC)
·   Series 4 (1986â€"1988) was available with a naturally aspirated, fuel-injected 13B-VDEI producing 146 hp (108 kW). An optional turbocharged model, known as the Turbo II, had 182 hp (141 kW).
·   Series 5 (1989â€"1992) featured updated styling and better engine management, as well as lighter rotors and a higher compression ratio, 9.7:1 for the naturally aspirated model, and 9.0:1 for the turbo model. The Turbo II moniker was dropped, and the turbocharged model was simply dubbed Turbo. The naturally aspirated Series 5 FC made 160 hp (119 kW), while the Series 5 Turbo made 200 hp (147 kW).



Third generation (FD)
·   Series 6 (1992â€"1995) was exported throughout the world and had the highest sales. In Japan, Mazda sold the RX-7 through its Efini brand as the Efini RX-7. Only the 1993â€"1995 model years were sold in the U.S. and Canada.
·   Series 7 (1996â€"1998) included minor changes to the car. Updates included a simplified vacuum routing manifold and a 16-bit ECU allowing for increased boost which netted an extra 10 hp. In Japan, the Series 7 RX-7 was marketed under the Mazda brand name. The Series 7 was also sold in Australia, New Zealand and the U.K. Series 7 RX-7s were produced only in right-hand-drive configuration.
·   Series 8 (January 1999â€" August 2002) was the final series, and was initially only available in the Australian and European markets. More efficient turbochargers were installed, while improved intercooling and radiator cooling was made possible by a revised frontal area. The seats, steering wheel, and front and rear lights were all changed. The rear wing was modified and gained adjustability. The top-of-the-line "Type RS" came equipped with a Bilstein suspension and 17" wheels as standard equipment, and reduced weight to 1280 kg. Power was officially claimed as 280 ps (276 hp, 208 kW) (with 330 N·m (243 ft·lbf) of torque) as per the maximum Japanese limit, though realistic power was more likely 220â€"230 kW (290â€"308 hp). The Type RZ version included all the features of the Type RS, but at a lighter weight (at 1270 kg). It also featured custom gun-metal colored BBS wheels and a custom red racing themed interior. Further upgrades included a new 16-bit ECU and ABS system upgrades. The improved ABS system worked by braking differently on each wheel, allowing the car better turning during braking. The effective result made for safer driving for the average buyer. Easily the most collectible of all the RX-7s was the last 1,500 run-out specials. Dubbed the "Spirit R", they combined all the "extra" features Mazda had used on previous limited-run specials and all sold within days of being announced. They still command amazing prices on the Japanese used car scene years later.


But any RX is cool to be seen in
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Post by: mullins on October 03, 2006, 11:02:53 AM
Series 1,2,3, etc

God I wish people would use this naming convention. It\'s just so easy and saves any confusion!
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Post by: Don Pamponi on October 08, 2006, 03:55:36 PM
Taht particular car won\'t have an LSD, only on the GSL
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Post by: Dominic on October 08, 2006, 08:21:13 PM
Quote from: flectronYeah, spoke to the bloke last night and agreed a sale. I won\'t be picking it up til next week, but he\'s led me to believe it\'s very straight, well maintained and immaculate underneath. It\'s got less than 80k on the chassis and less than 1500k on the lump. The rust is just small scabs around the sunroof I think, the rear window thingy doesn\'t stay up on it\'s own, and a doorcard is peeling slightly. He was well p1ssed off with the guy that listed it for him for doing such a half-assed job.
He told me of an alarm/light that comes on w/ignition, that stays on til water is up to temp. He tells me it\'s not a fault - is he right?

The light thingy doesn\'t sound like anything to worry about, although it shouldn\'t happen. All warning lights should go off after start-up. Mine did that for a while before I realised the rad and water reservoir bottle weren\'t topped up :Hammer . Might just be a simple matter of checking the coolant level and making sure all airlocks are removed.

Congratulations on the purchase, looks like you\'ve got yourself a goodun.
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Post by: flectron on October 08, 2006, 08:26:35 PM
Thanks Dom.
I\'m collecting it on Tuesday - I\'ll report back on the journey home and get some pics up.
Gord.
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Post by: yoeddynz on October 19, 2006, 02:37:17 PM
Hows the new car going?

alex
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Post by: sadgoth on October 19, 2006, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: mullinsSeries 1,2,3, etc

God I wish people would use this naming convention. It\'s just so easy and saves any confusion!

Would help, but most people don\'t realise that there were 3 variants of the SA/FB 2 FC Variants and 3 FD Variants so if you start talking about a Series 3 half the RX7 owners in the UK would be thinking you meant an FD!:rolleyes: