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General => General Technical => Topic started by: johnf on November 09, 2003, 05:30:36 PM

Title: My first starting prob
Post by: johnf on November 09, 2003, 05:30:36 PM
For the first time in 10 months it won\'t go

Ok I\'ve read lots of posts about flooding, is this what I\'ve done?

\'98 car and it\'s started first time every time for the 10 months I\'ve had it until today.

Backed it out of the garage and when I went back to it - 2hrs later it won\'t fire.

It turns over and gives the odd attempt to go.

I never start it with any throttle and I\'m reluctand to pump the gas.

I\'ve left it for another hour and still no go.

Whats the best course of action now?

Thanks

John

:(
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: Andyp on November 09, 2003, 05:32:18 PM
unlucky dude, there\'s a whole thread on this thou

http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=604 (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=604)
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: scooby_si on November 09, 2003, 05:48:07 PM
are you trying to tell me that now i\'ve order a car after u seduce me that the rex is actually a lemon :eek: only kidding sorry to hear of yer first troubles, as u well no i have no hands on experiance wot so ever so ignore me with pleasure but i recall u said previously u did do mainly short journeys without any problems so dunno if a few longer bursts may help ;)
I presume you\'ve seen the flooded car starting thread here (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=604)  U seemed pretty knowledgeable & i recall u did most the work yerself so i guess takin plugs out is no issue?
Out of interest which spark plugs do you use?
Anyway good luck with that, if you need me to bring the mondeo round & give ya a tow technique say the word.......?
Si
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: johnf on November 09, 2003, 06:16:15 PM
Lol si \'I don\'t beleive it\' I\'m not sure it is flooded, no fuel smell.


I tried the jump leads [seemed the easiest] no go

Thought about a tow but can\'t find the front tow hitch :(  in the dark and rain.

Pushed it back into my nice warm, dry garage. What\'s the chances of it staring in the morning?

Read the \'flooded\' post, did someone post a quick fix by clamping the fuel line with mole grips?
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: scooby_si on November 09, 2003, 06:21:08 PM
hey fool [Mr T mode on (http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/ticking.gif))I wood presume you\'d be even more likely to have joy in the morning if u can take plugs out & let them dry overnight (http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/acclaim.gif)
Si (i almost sound like i no wot i\'m on about (http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/teach.gif)lol)
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: Martiny on November 09, 2003, 06:27:48 PM
John, heres what I would try:

1)Hold acellerator to the floor. Now turn key and crank engine for about 3 seconds. If it does not start, then stop cranking.

2)Now try it again with no throttle for about 2 secs.


repeat 1 + 2 about 3 or 4 times before your start messing with plugs and things.

Also, pumping has no effect on anything, as our cars are Fuel injection. Pumping the accelerator only squirts fuel if you have a carburretor.

I am trying to find your number so I can phone you.;)
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: johnf on November 09, 2003, 06:30:56 PM
thanks martin - check your pm
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: grinder on November 10, 2003, 01:12:02 PM
i used to start my second gen with mole grips - worked a treat - not sure about a 3rd gen though !!
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: J4P RX on November 10, 2003, 01:46:45 PM
Arrgh mine wouldnt start just now leaving work for lunch.  Got it going in the end by giving it a bit of throttle but I was worried it wouldnt start.

Im concerned now its not going to start properly again.  Id like to not think it was an engine problem.  I hope not anyway seeing as it only has 6000 miles on it.

Crunch time, I have to go back to work now...
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: johnf on November 11, 2003, 06:48:07 PM
Well its all sorted.

Tried towing it without any joy and as it was booked in for a service I got a mate with a recovery truck to take it the short distance to Hurley in coventry.

They phoned and said it was flooded and the most likely reason being my battery was low and therefore not giving enough \'umph\' when I tried to start it.

Sounds reasonable to me so - keeping the battery in good nick goes on my list.

Going to need front pads soon - whats the best deal you\'ve had?
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: J4P RX on November 11, 2003, 07:05:27 PM
Mines has been fine since that 1 incident too :)

Lee
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: Andyp on November 11, 2003, 08:08:31 PM
Group hug!!!

where\'s Arch when ya need him ;)
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: scooby_si on November 11, 2003, 08:28:46 PM
(http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/sehrgrosse/large-smiley-052.gif) lettice no how u go with hurley m8 ;)
Si
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: Andyp on November 11, 2003, 08:37:11 PM
You poor thing, waiting must be killing ya si, esp with pics like that!

how\'s long it to go now? :D
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: scooby_si on November 11, 2003, 08:48:22 PM
(http://www.smiliegenerator.de/s20/smilies-18445.png) lol
Si
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: Andyp on November 11, 2003, 09:01:41 PM
Well there\'s pleanty to do in that time!

Start saving for insurance, write off to shell for an opimax card, get some oil, start knitting as so on :)

you wait till the last few days, you won\'t be able to sleep! :D

then when you get it you\'ll be all (http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/images/smilies/Dance.gif) (http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/images/smilies/Dance.gif)(http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/images/smilies/Dance.gif)(http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/images/smilies/Dance.gif)(http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/images/smilies/Dance.gif)(http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/images/smilies/Dance.gif)
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: scooby_si on November 11, 2003, 09:10:53 PM
credit cards lined up for insurance c/o AON, already got the optimax pluspoints card from previous scooby ownership so will get extra points (hopefully not on licence (http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-038.gif)) as well as currently trying to seduce a NF supplier(http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/boozer.gif), already checked out the GTX in halfords (looking for source of GTX3) knitting wot does OJ wana pullover or sumin (http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/fragend/confused-smiley-007.gif) lol, although i do have embroidery monkey at work working on something special & rotary related.........(http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/grinser/grinning-smiley-018.gif)sleep pah bring on the party:
(http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/party/party-smiley-020.gif)(http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/party/party-smiley-020.gif)(http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/party/party-smiley-020.gif)(http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/party/party-smiley-020.gif)(http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/party/party-smiley-020.gif)
Si
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: Andyp on November 11, 2003, 09:20:10 PM
hehe CC\'s are evil. I put my insurance on mine last month and how much have i apid off... yep £0 *oops*

and no OJ needs a knitted willy warmer for those winter months!
Title: My first starting prob
Post by: scooby_si on November 11, 2003, 09:47:33 PM
aha but i have a degree in economics & that translates as i am one tight son of a bytch (http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/wonga.gif) lol, oh & i get .1% for everything i spend on it great i get paid to use it nice (http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/acclaim.gif) lol
Si
PS er do you have dimensions (http://burns.thefinaldimension.org/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif)