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Cars by Model Type => 1st generation RX-7's => Topic started by: Don Pamponi on June 30, 2006, 10:13:14 PM

Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: Don Pamponi on June 30, 2006, 10:13:14 PM
Has anyone tryed getting an MOT under the new VOSA computerised system?
Well I have & the 1st thing they did was do an emissions test, which It failed in spectacular fashion by throwing out double the amount of CO2 & H Carbons allowed!:eek:

You see the idiots have left out of the new database the bit about exemting rotaries & it now instructs the tester to run an emissions test.
Fortunately Mat at RXmotors knew the regs & pointed the tester at an obscure flow chart which has the only reference to rotaries being exempt.

So beware!  You will have to fight for your MOT & make the tester look for a flow chart suplement in the regs book.

Happy MOT\'ing folks.
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: OLSKOOLROTAR on June 30, 2006, 10:55:46 PM
Thats a bit sh*t to say the least, when did this come into force then?
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: kiwimazda on June 30, 2006, 11:05:48 PM
Never had a problem myself and its on a sorn
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: oldone on July 01, 2006, 08:19:36 AM
I had no probs in Feb getting the 7 through MOT,my MOT station is sympathetic towards classics and such...........:Thumbs-up .
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: mpk490p on July 01, 2006, 08:37:50 AM
Mine did fail the test in May but not by much i knew the tester and he ajusted the mixture for me but i always thought it had affected the power as she was set up perfect by WGT and ive not touched it since, it\'s going back to have the weber fitted next month so i will get them to set it up again and i dont really want it being messed with after that really, i guess the best thing to do is make a note and take a picture of your settings and if it fails just ask if they can adjust it to pass then change it back

Mark
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: Don Pamponi on July 01, 2006, 08:41:43 AM
A modded lump like yours & mine will never pass the emissions in a month of sundays, but the point is: if you are aware of the regs you don\'t need to take the emissions test!
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: mpk490p on July 01, 2006, 08:43:52 AM
Most defentaly one to remember
thanks
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: nikp on July 01, 2006, 09:12:46 AM
Quoteif you are aware of the regs you don\'t need to take the emissions test!

Yeah, i have a third gen on a J plate, and therefore i didn\'t have to take an emissions test.
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: oldone on July 01, 2006, 09:22:36 AM
Quote from: Don PamponiA modded lump like yours & mine will never pass the emissions in a month of sundays, but the point is: if you are aware of the regs you don\'t need to take the emissions test!
My 13b bridge was no prob,I even had a lil more premix in the tank as precaution for running in the motor.As long as the motor does not smoke whilst running at prescribed rpm,it may puff a \'smoke\' on start up but has to go away.
Again it comes down to the tester at the MOT station,the best is to find one that does a lot of vintage\\classic\\historic cars....:driving
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: alban1973 on July 01, 2006, 09:29:40 AM
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26668&highlight=emissions

This is what I wrote for 3rd gen owners, but the same still applies for later cars.  I will do a bit more digging next week on the matter for older cars. usually they do not get one because the computer does not want to know what the results are, later cars it does want figures......
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: MikeLMR on July 01, 2006, 06:07:15 PM
Quote from: nikpYeah, i have a third gen on a J plate, and therefore i didn\'t have to take an emissions test.

Unfortunately you do, the exemption only applies to engines manufactured prior to the mid 80\'s (can\'t remember the exact date but I have looked it up in the manuals and have posted it before)
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: davehg on July 01, 2006, 06:15:52 PM
my single turbo failed to start with but i just removed fuel on the commander, so where is this obscure chart???? would be good to get a copy on here
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: MikeLMR on July 01, 2006, 06:22:53 PM
I\'ll have a look in the new manuals .... my Dad should have a couple of new sets in box downstairs somewhere
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: OLSKOOLROTAR on July 01, 2006, 09:03:34 PM
Quote from: oldoneMy 13b bridge was no prob,I even had a lil more premix in the tank as precaution for running in the motor.As long as the motor does not smoke whilst running at prescribed rpm,it may puff a \'smoke\' on start up but has to go away.
Again it comes down to the tester at the MOT station,the best is to find one that does a lot of vintage\\classic\\historic cars....:driving

Glad mines just a visual then:cool
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: Don Pamponi on July 01, 2006, 09:30:13 PM
Its pre 87/88 cars only for the visual test im afraid.
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: marxt2 on July 01, 2006, 10:32:36 PM
My 96 failed the new MOT test miserably and melted the emissions probe so at least I got my own back!!
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: mpk490p on July 02, 2006, 09:18:20 AM
Quote from: marxt2My 96 failed the new MOT test miserably and melted the emissions probe so at least I got my own back!!

Wicked :flamed

Mark
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: Bulla on July 02, 2006, 11:04:51 AM
Quote from: Don PamponiHas anyone tryed getting an MOT under the new VOSA computerised system?
Well I have & the 1st thing they did was do an emissions test, which It failed in spectacular fashion by throwing out double the amount of CO2 & H Carbons allowed!:eek:

You see the idiots have left out of the new database the bit about exemting rotaries & it now instructs the tester to run an emissions test.
Fortunately Mat at RXmotors knew the regs & pointed the tester at an obscure flow chart which has the only reference to rotaries being exempt.

So beware!  You will have to fight for your MOT & make the tester look for a flow chart suplement in the regs book.

Happy MOT\'ing folks.


Weird, I got mine two weeks ago and it passed fine on emissions, J plate import, decat.

Bulla
Title: You will all fail the new MOT
Post by: craig on July 02, 2006, 12:27:20 PM
taking my L plate fd in on monday  hope she passes