hi all, just got my power fc + commander from japan can i put it in my self or best to get some one to set it up for me. and any body know any where near northants i can get it done :(
Should be a simple plug and play job. I\'ve yet to receive mine yet, but i was told the old ECU is in the left part of the passenger footwell.
Did it come will install instructions?
Ta, Paul.
yes did but in jap so cant read it
Quote from: adibyes did but in jap so cant read it
Ah - best to find an english copy!
I *assume* you need to disconnect the battery before installing. Then you will need to run the car through the simple \'self learning\' process which the PFC has.
Hopefully someone will post a link to a english version of said manuals describing the process in more detail!
Cheers, Paul.
rang an apexi dealer in liverpool and he told me you cant get it in english
Try here..... :Thumbs-up
http://www.spipowerexcel.com/pdfs/fc_commander_fd3s.pdf
Hi ya mate, just got my PFC from japan and my japanese aint so good either! LOL, but what ya need to do is-
1- Disconnect battery, then remove old ECU (passenger foot well, on the left) take care when taking the plugs out, as ya don\'t want to pull any wires out the harness.
2-insert PFC & commander into existing harness
3-reconnect everthing and then run setup program
4-Setup =
run engine at idle for 10mins with all electrical stuff off
Then Run for further 10mins with rear demister on only
then run with Air Con on for 10mins, i also then did further 10mins with all electrics stuff on just to make sure.
it will still hunt a bit after installation, mine took 3 days to finally finish learning the car. You can get the apexi instructions for the PFC & commander on the electrical sticky thread, good link.
hope this helps.
Stu
thanks m8 ill have a go this weekend
Quote from: adibthanks m8 ill have a go this weekend
I\'m just installing mine now... I\'ve run into a problem though:
The stock ECU is secured with screws to a mount in the car, yet the PFC doesn\'t seem to have any screw holes. How do i secure it?
Ta, Paul.
Quote from: vxerI\'m just installing mine now... I\'ve run into a problem though:
The stock ECU is secured with screws to a mount in the car, yet the PFC doesn\'t seem to have any screw holes. How do i secure it?
Ta, Paul.
If you have purchased the PFC new then the box will contain velcro sticky pads, all i did with mine was fixed two pads to the original top bracket that held the stock ecu in place and then fixed one on the bottom side of the PFC to secure it to the inside of the car (i think it was a white tube that run along the bottom sill of the car that i connected it too). Would take some photo\'s but camera is dead at mo, sorry.
hope this helps.
Stu
Thanks stu, thats pretty much what i did!
I had to cut away part of the old bracket (front side) so the commander could plug in ok.
All set up and running now! :)
Ta, Paul.
Also, the setup went pretty smoothly; found its idle for each case within about 20 seconds.
Only one it can\'t find is fast idle - after a drive, when i come to a stop at a junction it hunts up and down about 500 revs for about 10 seconds before it settles back to normal idle.
I\'m guessing the high and low settings for fast idle are too close together by default? Anyone know for sure?
Ta, Paul.
I\'m not too clued up on PFC\'s but a pal of mine had a simalar problem when his air con was Turned off (did\'nt do it when it was on) I\'m not sure what Pip did to it but it took the hole of five minutes to fix.
Its worth a search through the Old posts i think this sort of thing is not unusal.
Am i right in thinking the high and low bands for idle are the deceleration fuel cut RPM and idle RPM respectivly? The manual is less than clear! :-/
I\'m thinking if this is the case, then i can move these apart a little to stop it hunting when i come to a stop at after driving for a bit...
Ta, Paul.
I found a link to fduk forum which talks about this problem a bit if anyone else has it < here > (http://fduk.org/forum/showthread.php?t=773&page=3&pp=10)
Quote from: vxerAm i right in thinking the high and low bands for idle are the deceleration fuel cut RPM and idle RPM respectivly? The manual is less than clear! :-/
I\'m thinking if this is the case, then i can move these apart a little to stop it hunting when i come to a stop at after driving for a bit...
Ta, Paul.
I found a link to fduk forum which talks about this problem a bit if anyone else has it < here > (http://fduk.org/forum/showthread.php?t=773&page=3&pp=10)
Hi ya mate, wat i ended up doing with mine was setting idle at 900rpm a little high i know but cut the hunting out. This is what i set mine too, until i get it prof tuned -
F/C A.E 1400
F/C E/C 1450
F/C A/C 1450
IDLE A.E 900
IDLE E/L 1000
IDLE A/C 1050
Hope this gives a rough idea, it worked fine on my motor. You HAVE to keep the value between Idle setting & F/C setting above 100rpm.
catch ya at RSIII, Cheers Stu
Quote from: Stu.WilsonHi ya mate, wat i ended up doing with mine was setting idle at 900rpm a little high i know but cut the hunting out. This is what i set mine too, until i get it prof tuned -
F/C A.E 1400
F/C E/C 1450
F/C A/C 1450
IDLE A.E 900
IDLE E/L 1000
IDLE A/C 1050
Hope this gives a rough idea, it worked fine on my motor. You HAVE to keep the value between Idle setting & F/C setting above 100rpm.
catch ya at RSIII, Cheers Stu
Thanks stu, i\'ll give these a go. Its funny - if these values work fine, its a wonder the even bother with the self learning process because its clearly broken! :-)
Ta, Paul.
never got round to putting mine in will be having ago this weekend if rain keeps off, booked it in to be tuned at wgt next saturday
power fc in no problems apart from rain again, when you go to etc-input output should the reading be near to the ones in the instructoins because mine are all a lot higher apart from intake air temp sensor have any of you guys got any readings off your car
Quote from: adibpower fc in no problems apart from rain again, when you go to etc-input output should the reading be near to the ones in the instructoins because mine are all a lot higher apart from intake air temp sensor have any of you guys got any readings off your car
What in particular?
Ta, Paul.
Hi guys, how much did the power FC cost you and where did you order it from? Thanks
ebay, place in japan 399 pounds but had to wait 3 weeks for it to come and 40ish pounds import tax
Try Nengun performance on the internet. Both Power FC and commander for £400 with all taxes in (I think!)
Chris
Don\'t supose you have a Link handy :)
Quote from: adibebay, place in japan 399 pounds but had to wait 3 weeks for it to come and 40ish pounds import tax
Got it from the same place - took about the same amount of time, but didn\'t have to pay vat or tax! :Santa
Got mine from RHD (//www.rhdjapan.com) cost £414 all in (delivery & unit, managed to get away with not paying duty!), ordered it on the Friday and got it on the Tue! super fast delivery with constant contact with them. Only thing is you have to download instructions, unless your fluent in japanese! LOL.
Or if ya want to feel safer by buying in the Uk your looking at around £650-£700, but you do have some come back with UK guys if it goes wrong.
Cheers Stu
See ya all at RSIII
399 was power fc and comander and if you dont get hit by tax your lucky, be shore you get right one, there is an 8 bit one or 16 bit one
399 power fc and comander, and if your buying one get the right one as there is an 8 bit one for 92 to 95 and 16 bit for 95 on, think my dates are right
Quote from: adib399 power fc and comander, and if your buying one get the right one as there is an 8 bit one for 92 to 95 and 16 bit for 95 on, think my dates are right
Yep think your right 8bit up to \'95 and 16bit after \'95. yep mine is def correct model and commander, getting it tuned next week too.
If anyone ever wants more info on the correct models and commanders for the power Fc \'nick\' has posted some excellent threads.
Cheers Stu
16 bit came in late on in 95
You can tell the Diffrence, 8 bit has Four plugs and 16 bit has three. I think :)