Car currently has original RZ Spec Bilstein gas dampers with lowered springs, hard setting its a bit bouncy when moving quick whats best alternative ?
Pete
Do you know what springs you have??? The bilsteins are quite soft a far as shocks go. You could go back to standard shocks with a lowering spring but becuase the Stock shock isn\'t desgined to work with a lowering spring l shorten the life of the shock.....
Quote from: McCARTHYDo you know what springs you have??? The bilsteins are quite soft a far as shocks go. You could go back to standard shocks with a lowering spring but becuase the Stock shock isn\'t desgined to work with a lowering spring l shorten the life of the shock.....
afraid not only had car a month so still finding my way round her and adding new lights and decals so its now mine,have a pic but doesnt help from original sale leaflet,will if have time take a look tomorrow
Pete
Iv got a set of damper adjustable struts and springs..allow good ajustment for road use.. let me know if they are of interest
Quote from: Gord.RIv got a set of damper adjustable struts and springs..allow good ajustment for road use.. let me know if they are of interest
Please don\'t tell me these are new and your Vendor selling again ?
LOL no clive these arnt ..im behaving myself after last times :spank .... these are 2nd hand items..i bought off dan for our own rx as we were unsure if we would require them.. so seeing if they of use to anyone else as we managed to get some 2nd hand Cuscos... hope this is ok clive... if it does cause a problem...let me know and ill remove posts..
Also dad told me to mention to you that he has been called away till tues down south so wont have chance to make payment for the account...again hope this is ok
I have the same setup as you pete, what springs are they mine are RSR, the car is very stiff but hold really well. Its only the bumpy roads you really have problems with the smooth ones are ok. Yours looks alot higher than mine though?
Quote from: RixioI have the same setup as you pete, what springs are they mine are RSR, the car is very stiff but hold really well. Its only the bumpy roads you really have problems with the smooth ones are ok. Yours looks alot higher than mine though?
after the EVO V which i got teins put on that dropped front 30 m/m rear 23 m/m this car is even lower than EVO was - taking a look at springs tomorrow.do a fair bit of country roads to work all bumpy as hell for the most part,she certanly is stiff wish i was that stiff :evillaugh
will post tomorrow when i see what they are
Pete
Quote from: Gord.RLOL no clive these arnt ..im behaving myself after last times :spank .... these are 2nd hand items..i bought off dan for our own rx as we were unsure if we would require them.. so seeing if they of use to anyone else as we managed to get some 2nd hand Cuscos... hope this is ok clive... if it does cause a problem...let me know and ill remove posts..
Also dad told me to mention to you that he has been called away till tues down south so wont have chance to make payment for the account...again hope this is ok
No worrys then :)
Quote from: Gord.RIv got a set of damper adjustable struts and springs..allow good ajustment for road use.. let me know if they are of interest
Any pics,what make and how much are you looking for
Pete
Hi Pete
You could always buy a nice cushion to sit on,save you a fortune :rollin
If you want to sell the RZ bits after you take them off,can i have first dibs please,i\'ll keep them for spares.I love the ride they give,my back is still killing me!!!!!! :rollin
pete
Quote from: peterwoldsCar currently has original RZ Spec Bilstein gas dampers with lowered springs, hard setting its a bit bouncy when moving quick whats best alternative ?
Pete
Hi Pete,
Not sure how much you want to spend but although not cheap cheap hit the search button at the top and put in Tein Flex kit and you will find that from the feed back we have had from customers that this fully adjustable kit seems far and away the best suspension kit available for the FD and the RX-8 that is not only very road friendly and comfortable over the bumps n pot holes of our UK roads but also very good on track.
BTW, we also supply fitting and initial set up instructions with each kit.
Quote from: pete sparrowHi Pete
You could always buy a nice cushion to sit on,save you a fortune :rollin
If you want to sell the RZ bits after you take them off,can i have first dibs please,i\'ll keep them for spares.I love the ride they give,my back is still killing me!!!!!! :rollin
pete
Hi Pete
what makes you think i am not already using a cushion am only 5\'6" :Giggle
Sure you can have 1st dibs,want to get this sorted soon as got twin apexi induction kit to go on and hard pipe (both off for polishing) and twin dump valves so ideal do all fitting at once
Pete
Quote from: ShyAuto.comHi Pete,
Not sure how much you want to spend but although not cheap cheap hit the search button at the top and put in Tein Flex kit and you will find that from the feed back we have had from customers that this fully adjustable kit seems far and away the best suspension kit available for the FD and the RX-8 that is not only very road friendly and comfortable over the bumps n pot holes of our UK roads but also very good on track.
BTW, we also supply fitting and initial set up instructions with each kit.
Cheers will look,havent had time to see what springs are on as went to run what you brung on sunday as a few i know where running
Pete
Quote from: peterwoldsHi Pete
what makes you think i am not already using a cushion am only 5\'6" :Giggle
Sure you can have 1st dibs,want to get this sorted soon as got twin apexi induction kit to go on and hard pipe (both off for polishing) and twin dump valves so ideal do all fitting at once
Pete
Hi Pete
Thankyou for 1\'st dibs,pm me a price when get them off.
Have you got an apexi ecu in already,if not you might want to concider one and a remap,you want to make the most of those mods,and keep your car running safe.
Pete
Quote from: pete sparrowHi Pete
Thankyou for 1\'st dibs,pm me a price when get them off.
Have you got an apexi ecu in already,if not you might want to concider one and a remap,you want to make the most of those mods,and keep your car running safe.
Pete
no probs
have power fc and commander will get remap when induction and hard pipes on
Pete
Quote from: peterwoldsno probs
have power fc and commander will get remap when induction and hard pipes on
Pete
Thought you did,just wanted to make sure. :)
Quote from: ShyAuto.comHi Pete,
Not sure how much you want to spend but although not cheap cheap hit the search button at the top and put in Tein Flex kit and you will find that from the feed back we have had from customers that this fully adjustable kit seems far and away the best suspension kit available for the FD and the RX-8 that is not only very road friendly and comfortable over the bumps n pot holes of our UK roads but also very good on track.
Had a look real good feedback,as you say not cheap though.For what i need probably too many options i use the RX on odd motorway and lots of side roads,may do the occasional 1/4 mile but not tracking it have you an alternative ?
Pete
Will get some pics when i nip down to the unit mate... what is your email?
Quote from: Gord.RWill get some pics when i nip down to the unit mate... what is your email?
peterwolds@aol.com
My 95 Bathurst has the same Bilstiens as yours. Punishingly hard ride and very bumpy on an uneven surface.
I\'ve been considering replacing them myself.
Just my 2p worth! :p
Quote from: DarranJonesMy 95 Bathurst has the same Bilstiens as yours. Punishingly hard ride and very bumpy on an uneven surface.
I\'ve been considering replacing them myself.
Just my 2p worth! :p
Darran
wish 2p would be cost of replacing,tein flex look great but for what i use the RX too many settings options and expensive just want a more comfortable ride on crapy roads at my age pmsl and cost less than teins.
will keep looking for a softer option
Pete
Pic on its way... the are made by JAM a japanese firm... are very good on the road , offering good damping, with little roll.. Adjustable for damping and believe they have lowering springs fitted or if not lowering springs could be fitted
Price wise looking for about £150
Let me know
Ta Gord :)
Quote from: peterwoldsDarran
wish 2p would be cost of replacing,tein flex look great but for what i use the RX too many settings options and expensive just want a more comfortable ride on crapy roads at my age pmsl and cost less than teins.
will keep looking for a softer option
Pete
Pete
Like i said!!!! Cushion would be cheaper :Laugh :yes :rollin r
Quote from: pete sparrowPete
Like i said!!!! Cushion would be cheaper :Laugh :yes :rollin r
pete how about a black pillow with gold shopping list on it to match RX ? :mmmm even sounds sexy
Quote from: peterwoldspete how about a black pillow with gold shopping list on it to match RX ? :mmmm even sounds sexy
Now that is a good idea!!! :chat Mind if i steal it for my car??
If you want to have the ultimate suspension, Ive just fitted some Penske double adjustables.
Should be able to test the set up in a couple of weeks at Combe.
Quote from: AtomicRexIf you want to have the ultimate suspension, Ive just fitted some Penske double adjustables.
Should be able to test the set up in a couple of weeks at Combe.
very, very, very nice. How much did that set you back?
Back to Peter\'s problem...
Peter have you workd out what the problem actually is with the current set-up? Is it just too hard or does it get bouncy and not feel solid over bumps at speed? When changing lane at high-speed does the rear feel a bit vague and disconnected?
Mine used to have quite a harsh ride but be really unstable over bumps as the dampers had given up so I had pretty much just springs with little damping. With decent springs and dampers it\'s now firmer but not as harsh/crashy and feels really tight - lots of feedback from both the front and back!
Not suprising that these things need replacing on our cars though - most are 12-14 years old!
Quote from: iaintvery, very, very nice. How much did that set you back?
Rose Jointed Top Suspension Mounts 281.671
Penske 2-way dampers 2280.0875
Springs 387.01
Suspension Clevices 411.25
Total 3360.0185
But judging from my last set I bought completely worth every penny!!!
Quote from: iaintNot suprising that these thongs need replacing on our cars though - most are 12-14 years old!
oooooooooo yuk, a 12-14 year old thong! The stains would be unthinkable!
Quote from: AtomicRexoooooooooo yuk, a 12-14 year old thong! The stains would be unthinkable!
Ugh! Not a nice image.
Quote from: AtomicRexRose Jointed Top Suspension Mounts 281.671
Penske 2-way dampers 2280.0875
Springs 387.01
Suspension Clevices 411.25
Total 3360.0185
Hell fire not cheap sure for that money you could get a nice ride off a woman and change :chat
Pete
Quote from: iaintBack to Peter\'s problem...
Peter have you workd out what the problem actually is with the current set-up? Is it just too hard or does it get bouncy and not feel solid over bumps at speed? When changing lane at high-speed does the rear feel a bit vague and disconnected?
Mine used to have quite a harsh ride but be really unstable over bumps as the dampers had given up so I had pretty much just springs with little damping. With decent springs and dampers it\'s now firmer but not as harsh/crashy and feels really tight - lots of feedback from both the front and back!
Not suprising that these things need replacing on our cars though - most are 12-14 years old!
Iain
like a bouncy castle over rough (all seem to be ) roads sure if i go over a matchstick i can tell if has been lit !definately bounce around and is hard as hell over bumps but no worries about rear end.only thing that bothers me about adjustable suspension is wife had a set of konis on her rs turbo only 2 settings rock hard when passengers in or if solo rattled your teeth.been using RX for last 3000 miles as my astra was in use at work,came to work in astra today nice and soft without rolling,teeth not rattled.
in for full oil change/plugs 25th overdue so is garaged until then and will get doug to check if dampers are ok or not,could be the answer dont want to loose handling for a too softy ride
Pete
Quote from: peterwoldsHell fire not cheap sure for that money you could get a nice ride off a woman and change :chat
Pete
You show me a women that costs less than £3500! She cant be good, the really good ones cost 10 times that at least! ;)
Quote from: AtomicRexYou show me a women that costs less than £3500! She cant be good, the really good ones cost 10 times that at least! ;)
:evillaugh good point my ex is costing me 3 times that a year :2Mad
I\'m on the look out for softer susp as well, i really dont feel comfortable with the back end jumping about if i floor it,not that i do much, never red lined it yet! think the standard susp a bit too hard for our roads unless you live in Cornwall. plus i\'m getting old, so hope to get Tien Flex on mine, but it\'s a toss up between that or Apexi at the mo! decisions!
cheers Bob
I will have my old suspension up for sale in the next week if anyone is interested.
I cant remember what type it is, but its much better than standard!
Very interested in this post since I\'ve hurt my back and would like the oppurtunity to have softer suspension when you need it - and stiffen it up for the track. It\'s the \'crashing\' over bumps that seems to the problem.
I have 1yr old adjustable Konis with original type-R springs and would love to try your set up some time Ian and give a report back on the site.
(my complete set up will then be for sale which I am sure would suit the purests)
Keith
Quote from: B9 KLFVery interested in this post since I\'ve hurt my back and would like the oppurtunity to have softer suspension when you need it - and stiffen it up for the track. It\'s the \'crashing\' over bumps that seems to the problem.
I have 1yr old adjustable Konis with original type-R springs and would love to try your set up some time Ian and give a report back on the site.
(my complete set up will then be for sale which I am sure would suit the purests)
Keith
Keith
so your konis not that adjustable then for when you want softer ride ?
Pete
Quote from: ro284I\'m on the look out for softer susp as well, i really dont feel comfortable with the back end jumping about if i floor it,not that i do much, never red lined it yet! think the standard susp a bit too hard for our roads unless you live in Cornwall. plus i\'m getting old, so hope to get Tien Flex on mine, but it\'s a toss up between that or Apexi at the mo! decisions!
cheers Bob
Hi Bob
are the cornish roads smooth then ? wont ask if you are older than me 57 this year bugger it :rollin
Pete
57! :2eek Im only 21 next week! Ohlin Coilovers are excellent aswell got them in the RZ. Similair to the ones in the Panspeed and that is such a comfy ride, its like driving a Merc :)
UK versions of the Ohlins are excellent, but the Jap versions are awful!
If you want hard, these will shake your teeth out!! I reckon the roads are made from glass over there? Do they smooth them out each night??
LOL..Jon...sounds like you are gettign it done right at last :)..cant wait to see the finished product!.... sounbd like we are going ot have to spend some money on our project to get it anywhere near the std of yours :)
Right well Details of mine
JAM (japanese firm) fully damper ajustable..in v good condition... offer very good ride comfort and little roll. Looking for itro 150..very nice road setup for someone..
Pics
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/Gordr/JAMSUS.jpg)
Let me know if this is of interest
My email is GordR555@hotmail.com i can also be reached on MSN on this address
QuoteKeith so your konis not that adjustable then for when you want softer ride ?
Pete
I run my Type-R with the Konis at their softest setting and would not expect to turn them up at the back on the road. The Konis therefore start at the stock setting and give further adjustment for track/fast road work, give excellant damping at speed without wollowing and of course the ride height looks just great at their lowest setting.
What I am hoping for from the Tien Flex is an improvement on the springs (and maybe the re bound adjustment) so that the inevitable pot holes on our roads are soaked up better so the ride is less harsh but right there if you want to push on hard, and, with the improvements in suspension over the last ten years I don\'t think thats too much to ask.
Keith :Giggle
Quote from: Rixio57! :2eek Im only 21 next week! Ohlin Coilovers are excellent aswell got them in the RZ. Similair to the ones in the Panspeed and that is such a comfy ride, its like driving a Merc :)
:Party time then happy 21st cant remember that far back :cheers
pete
Hehe Thx Pete. Its sunday next week and hopefully i\'l be going racing at donnington with a few peeps :)
These are the Ohlins i was talking about, they are Jap spec ones. Awesome suspension setup!
http://www.nengun.com/catalogue/product/358 tein flex for £840 delivered do you get clobbered for any import duties ?
Pete
Hi Pete
I am an authroised dealer of Tein products. I can supply Tein Flex kits for RX-7 and RX-8 for £900 plus Vat plus delivery making total cost of £1069.25. This product comes with the added assurance of a guarantee and no hidden costs.
Do not know if any of this of any help to you.
Regards
QuotePete. tein flex for £840 delivered do you get clobbered for any import duties ?
I\'d like to know this also, anyone bought from them, how long to arrive?
i can fit myself.
Cheer Bob
Quote from: ro284I\'d like to know this also, anyone bought from them, how long to arrive?
i can fit myself.
Cheer Bob
Bob
paul i got RX from bought powerfc & commander from nengun have pm\'d him asking how long and any taxes this greedy end
Pete
Quote from: ShyAuto.comHi Pete
I am an authroised dealer of Tein products. I can supply Tein Flex kits for RX-7 and RX-8 for £900 plus Vat plus delivery making total cost of £1069.25.
Do not know if any of this of any help to you.
Regards
Thanks clive do you do the steet version of teins ? want to cut cost of upgrade if i reasonably can as other mods i want to do £££££££££££££ :WaveBye like my EVO
pete
from thier website - wonder how many days a week they work thought was 7 !!!!!!!!
Our standard delivery terms are 7 - 21 Japanese business days, however a more accurate shipment estimate is provided on the site when your order is placed
Do the prices on the site include all duty and taxes?
No, the prices on the site include the product cost and the cost for shipment to your location. Any additional taxes or duty applicable on entry to your country is your responsibility and we recommend you familiarise yourself with these possible costs before making your purchase.
Quote from: peterwoldsThanks clive do you do the steet version of teins ? want to cut cost of upgrade if i reasonably can as other mods i want to do £££££££££££££ :WaveBye like my EVO
pete
Hi Pete,
We can sell you The Super Street kit with topmounts for £725 inc Vat or if you want to use your old possably worn out topmounts with the same kit it would be £560 inc Vat.
Either would be plus £20 delivery.
Hope this helps
Thats a bit of a difference!
Lets hope the extra spent is going to be inversley proportional to my laptimes
:)
Quote from: ShyAuto.comHi Pete,
We can sell you The Super Street kit with topmounts for £725 inc Vat or if you want to use your old possably worn out topmounts with the same kit it would be £560 inc Vat.
Either would be plus £20 delivery.
Hope this helps
That seems better option will get top mounts checked out and get back to you thanks,whats delivery like are they in stock ?.
anybody running The Super Street kit ?
Pete
Quote from: peterwoldsIain
like a bouncy castle over rough (all seem to be ) roads sure if i go over a matchstick i can tell if has been lit !definately bounce around and is hard as hell over bumps but no worries about rear end.only thing that bothers me about adjustable suspension is wife had a set of konis on her rs turbo only 2 settings rock hard when passengers in or if solo rattled your teeth.been using RX for last 3000 miles as my astra was in use at work,came to work in astra today nice and soft without rolling,teeth not rattled.
in for full oil change/plugs 25th overdue so is garaged until then and will get doug to check if dampers are ok or not,could be the answer dont want to loose handling for a too softy ride
Pete
Really sounds similar to mine before I got the dampers sorted. Vey hard and jarring but bouncy too. Let us know what you find out!
top mounts are fine so going down the super street route, clive if you want to call me when you have a minute to sort these anytime between 9 and 5 on 01759303944 just ask for peter
Quote from: peterwoldstop mounts are fine so going down the super street route, clive if you want to call me when you have a minute to sort these anytime between 9 and 5 on 01759303944 just ask for peter
Hi Pete
Does that meean i can have your old bilstiens soon?? I hope so,got a shock on the way out!!
Cheers
Pete
Quote from: pete sparrowHi Pete
Does that meean i can have your old bilstiens soon?? I hope so,got a shock on the way out!!
Cheers
Pete
Pete
waiting for clive to get in touch
Pete
Quote from: peterwoldsPete
waiting for clive to get in touch
Pete
Hi Pete
Cool,no worries! :Laugh
Pete
teins arrived today cracking service from clive at shyautos :cheers clive
Pete
Very nice Peter, i\'ll be going the same route too, from Clive, soon as i can,
Apexi first though (hope! )let us know how the fitting goes,
cheers Bob
Quote from: ro284Very nice Peter, i\'ll be going the same route too, from Clive, soon as i can,
Apexi first though (hope! )let us know how the fitting goes,
cheers Bob
Hi Bob
assumed clive would be on time and he was so gave wife a list this morning before they arrived to drop off with mechanic to book in for fitting teins,dump valves,hard pipe and induction pipes (all nicely polished up ), hope he says this week,definatley want it doing before RS111,will let you know when on and how they compare to bone shakers :rollin
Pete
Cheer pete good luck with that, i will fit my own set, quite handy with a spanner and given a couple of days can even change plugs!
Bob
Is this street kit adjustable?
Quote from: RixioIs this street kit adjustable?
For race use, the ride height adjustable system enables you to adjust ride height and 16 levels of damping force.
yes would have been easier but cut & paste advert better :rollin
being fitted next wednesday in good time for RS3 will post results
Pete
front shocks went on yesterday,rears going on today wife drove it home from garage last night said miles better and less rattles will get my chance to drive saturday and see what diference is - hope not raining
Pete
delighted to say new suspension has rebound - no more skipping from 1 bump to another,teeth all in 1 piece from now on :driving smoother on our crap roads well pleased not sure what mechanic set them at will find out tomorrow, recommend clive for these :D
Pete
Sounds great, I\'m very interested now too. Did you notice any difference however having the solid pillow ball mounts at the top of the new set up?
Keith
Quote from: B9 KLFSounds great, I\'m very interested now too. Did you notice any difference however having the solid pillow ball mounts at the top of the new set up?
Keith
keith
yesterday was 1st time i have driven her since fitting was done ride is still firm ,doesnt roll much nicer drive maybe could do to be a touch softer but not much - marianne calling at garage to see when induction kit/dump valves can be fitted so will ask what setting it is on
Pete
damping set as left factory just ride height adjusted, a bit close to RS3 timewise am getting dump valves/induction kit fitted saturday-was going to be wash/polish that day so will have to wash on way to work this morning and take polish with me to do during the day.next will be geometry reset with new teins on and maybe remap needed with induction on.
fingers crossed for good weather for the weekend looking forward to RS3
Pete