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Cars by Model Type => 2nd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: ramirez on September 22, 2005, 05:06:00 PM

Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: ramirez on September 22, 2005, 05:06:00 PM
i\'m not sure whether the car I looked at today is a nail or not. It\'s a D reg FC N/A with 106K on the clock. (original engine, not rebuilt)

Started up first time, but the owner had to keep tapping the gas to stop it from stalling. After a few mins though the idle seemed to sortt itself out and car felt .... ok

I can\'t really comment on much else as it s the first FC i\'ve ever been in but is it likely to be worth £600 if the bodywork is in reasonable nick? It has an MOT til Jan but no tax now. Gearbox felt good.
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: Grizzly on September 22, 2005, 06:41:50 PM
I supose its like any car, 100k is a lot of miles but it depends on how its been treated and how you will treat it? if your a "Driving miss Daisy" kind of person it may go on for years to come but if you are looking for Trackday car it may not be the best Choice.

The thing is with second gen NA\'s there easy to work on and there are plenty of second hand parts about. Off the top of my head i can think of three NA engines for sale? and they are usaly reasonable money?
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: ramirez on September 22, 2005, 06:58:37 PM
are the cold starting dodgy idle levels a worry leading to bad engine?
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: grinder on September 22, 2005, 07:27:43 PM
your best checking if it actaully starts OK - the idle can be adjusted

run it for 20 mins ( or drive it )

then stop the car - if it starts OK then thats a good sign

my NA had about 115K on the clock and ran OK ( it drank oil like i had shares in shell but thats a different story )

is it the silver one with full body kit on ebay ??
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: Grizzly on September 22, 2005, 08:53:03 PM
I seem to remember someone writing a bit of a Buyers guide for Sevens?
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: Brett on September 22, 2005, 09:22:48 PM
Check if it starts from warm ok. But with over 100k on the clock you are heading into poor compression territory.  Do you have a budget in mind?  Its better to spend a few hundred extra and get a car with less miles.  :D
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: TRex on September 22, 2005, 11:57:50 PM
From my experience, in the past 6 months I have owned several of these second gen\'s and prolly checked out over a dozen cars in this past 6mths and the one thing and main/only thing to be aware of is the \'Body work\'!
 The bodywork/chassis, fullstop!

 These cars are rotters, they corrode easily. It may also look superficial and assume it\'s surface corrosion or a small hole.. wrong, 9 out of 10 small holes lead to massive openings or worst.....

 My theory is, you can always change/rebuild an engine or get mechanical parts replaced, but you cannot replace a chassis, once there is corrosion, there WILL BE corrosion...
 
 Good Luck
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: Grizzly on September 23, 2005, 12:03:36 AM
Well said...
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: ramirez on September 23, 2005, 10:20:52 AM
yep, it is the bodykitted ebay fc :)
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: grinder on September 23, 2005, 10:39:58 AM
rust is a killer - if you like the car and want it - really really really check the underside

once you have done that - check again

i had 5*10p sized holes in mine - 20 plates it took me to weld her back up - it had gone from the front to back - both sides - inside and out ( and the spare wheel well )

you really need to check

failing that - buy it - and sell me the front bumper :)

i think the £600 is a bit high for a D reg car - but the bumper(s) could be worth a few quid !!
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: FD3SNuttah on September 23, 2005, 11:26:05 AM
what everyone said about rust applies to me too, bought a T2 and it was pretty rusty. Its sorted now (i hope) take a screw driver and give it a prod underneath, i didnt do this and did the "tapping with knuckles" i saw a couple of spots which were questionable then when i had a really really good look it was all rotten on the edges where the floor meetsw teh sills, and behind the wheel arch liners, get a good luck there yeh, dont go in your best clothes!
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: thebandit on September 23, 2005, 01:10:06 PM
I agree with all of the above. Look out for rust! The rear arches/quarters on my Egi were fooked. Needless to say im pretty handy at killing the stuff these days when i turn into "rust warrior"  :rollin
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: Grizzly on September 23, 2005, 06:27:33 PM
I know if it was me i\'d be looking at this one. Supose it depends what he\'ll let it go for?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAZDA-RX7-RX-7-RX-7-ROTARY-MOT-FSH-TAX_W0QQitemZ4577272698QQcategoryZ18211QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: thebandit on September 24, 2005, 01:19:28 PM
whoa, that is pretty clean. anyone notice the old car phone (i think thats what it is)
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: ramirez on September 24, 2005, 02:17:47 PM
mmm yes i\'m keeping my eye on that one actually. Hope no-one else gets it !
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: Grizzly on September 24, 2005, 02:42:36 PM
I just noticed your in Cheshire!! Small world i\'m in Macclesfield, does this mean Grinder will have another Deciple at the Mascrat meet!!
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: grinder on September 24, 2005, 03:18:15 PM
LOL - i hope so :)
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: ramirez on September 25, 2005, 11:34:41 AM
how would you guys value those two D reg FCs ?

I was thinking no more than £1000 for the 42k one, and maybe £600 for the other with a bodykit on?
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: Grizzly on September 25, 2005, 11:58:05 AM
Something like that... I suppose it depends of what someone is prepared to pay? The problem with the 42k one is you may end up biding against an enthusiast who wants it because of its originality
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: Brett on September 25, 2005, 12:37:05 PM
TBH I would expect the one with 42k to go for about £1500, assuming its milage is verifyable.
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: FD3SNuttah on September 25, 2005, 04:41:53 PM
i agree with brett,. its probably worth 1500 for the one with 42K, thats a nice low mileage. and you would probably not rusty either! then again i wouldnt be suprised if he was asking 2 grand for it!
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: Grizzly on September 25, 2005, 05:00:36 PM
MMMM i\'d still check the floor for rust before i handed over my cash.
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: ramirez on September 26, 2005, 08:41:05 PM
just rang the seller (42K) and although the car does have a current MOT, it needed some welding doing for it - and will do for the next as well supposedly.

I don\'t know. It\'s an old car so I should expect this really, I reckon I can get it for £1150 so what do you think? That is uber low mileage for the age.
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: Grizzly on September 26, 2005, 08:54:29 PM
Did he say how much welding? Did you ask where and how bad?

If i was you i\'d go down and have a crawl under it for a bit. £1100 is not too excessive for a car in the 40k\'s but it would be for one that needs alot of welding?

But on the bright side it can\'t be too bad if it has a current MOT? How long ago was it done?
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: ramirez on September 26, 2005, 09:10:31 PM
may 2005 it turns out, 8 months left.
i\'m growing towards the idea of getting it and keeping it as pristine as I can. I don\'t drive a lot so it might be worth a lot more in the future maybe.
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: grinder on September 26, 2005, 09:31:28 PM
hummmm i know its only got 42K - but is that good to have such a low milage engine on that age of car ( just to throw a spanner in the works !! )
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: ramirez on September 26, 2005, 09:35:32 PM
hum hum hum. anyone here like mk3 supras ? :D

Argh. decisions decisions. Do I go for this rex, or a 100K black turbo supra automatic?
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: thebandit on September 26, 2005, 09:50:47 PM
I say go for the rex, hell of a lot more fun to drive than an auto supra ;) Just depends how bad the rust/ if there is rust on the sills  :)
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: grinder on September 26, 2005, 09:51:40 PM
mk3 - is that the latest shape one ??
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: ramirez on September 26, 2005, 09:55:14 PM
nah one before, knight rider esque.
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: grinder on September 26, 2005, 09:56:00 PM
rex everytime then !!!!!!!!!!
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: ramirez on October 02, 2005, 09:13:34 AM
I won the auction :)

£970 - not bad ?
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: Grizzly on October 02, 2005, 12:26:32 PM
Nice one Matey!!!!! So you are now the prowed owner of an 40k RX7!!!

£970 is a good price. :)
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: grinder on October 02, 2005, 01:03:05 PM
EXCELLENT - i hope to see it at the meet in 2 weeks :)
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: ramirez on October 02, 2005, 05:10:44 PM
Quote from: grinderEXCELLENT - i hope to see it at the meet in 2 weeks :)


:D tell me more grinder, got a link to the relevant thread! ?
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: Brett on October 02, 2005, 06:55:04 PM
£970!!!! You have got yourself a real bargain there :D
Welcome to the world of Rx7 ownership, may you never look back :god
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: grinder on October 02, 2005, 08:18:53 PM
check out the meet section - and i will add it later on

its the 2nd monday of every month in warrington ( junction 21 on the M6 )
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: ramirez on October 03, 2005, 07:06:21 AM
Nice one :D i\'m only 10 mins from Warrington! (Helsby)

I quite fancy some TII side skirts and spoiler - are these easy to come by?
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: Grizzly on October 03, 2005, 07:13:28 AM
Looks like this guy has some for sale?http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17268
Title: should i avoid this car? N/A with 106K
Post by: grinder on October 09, 2005, 05:57:14 PM
Ramirez : the meet is on monday : http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18816