FC 1/4 Mile Table :
| Position | Driver | Time (s) | Speed (mph) | Date | Venue | *BHP |
| 1 | Antnicuk | 12.2 | 119 | ? | RS3 | ? |
| 2 | Grinder | 15.071 | 91.94 | ? | RS1 | ? |
| 3 | CJR | 12.489 | 117.49 | 09/03/2005 | Sanata Pod | ? |
* BHP can be measured at either the RW (rear wheels), H (hubs) or F (fly wheel).Click driver name to see full spec | Last updated 09 June 2006 14:34
This is Chris\' slip from the pod the other week by the way:
A bit late, but as per http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5399&page=12
12.173 @ 118.2
John
so you really are the winner at the mo then !
Not for too long...
I ran a 14.143sec@98.3mph when we were at York earlier in the year. I hoping to do better this year.
what should a standard T2 be running on a quarter mile? Id expect v low 15\'s maybe a high 14 if the car is running nicely but i may be way out :-s
Nice FC Woodsy
Yes I would say high 14s for the FC as standard
Thank you mate,
She\'s new, freshly imported from Japan.
Cant wait to give her a run on the quarter once the warmer weather comes round :-)
Yep, the pain is always going to be shifting from 3rd to 4th - it always seems to be right on the line for a stock TII. (Some seem to be able to hit 100 in 3rd, others have to be in 4th)
Quote from: BlitzBoyNice FC Woodsy
Yes I would say high 14s for the FC as standard
As Brett said, the problem is the gearing, 3rd/4th happens at just the wrong time (i.e. about 0.5-1 second before you cross the line) 3rd is revving too high if you keep in gear and 4th you drop out of the power band
yeah thats the prob i had to be honest - you run out of puff in 3rd and you change up and cross the line
only thing you could do is change up early and hope 4th will pull .. HARD !!
i ran at 15.07 and it was a stock car with the centre cat removed and thats it
wondering what the auto will do - as that is happy at 112 in 3rd :D
so i only need to change gear twice ( 1-2 and 2-3 ) :D
On my white cab i have an auto diff with manual box so how much difference would this make ? I know they are different ratios and i think if i remember right better for this.
14.091 @ 105.24mph
Oh, and a 0-60mph recorded at 5.573 secs :)
crickey - well there goes the 100mph challenge !!
What was the 100mph challenge? If that\'s not a stupid question.
it was the first person to break the 100mph terminal speed - there is a huge thread about it - and you have managed to do it on a pretty much stock car !! LOL
the 0-60 at 5.5 - thats very impressive - i like that i really do - im sure the book figures are 7.2 ( i think )
7.2? I thought it was around 6 to 6.5 (depending on the road test!)
i could be wrong :D
Thanks Grinder,
It is a stock engine / turbo / intercooler, but it was running 1 bar, home made \'straight shot\' induction kit with cold airbox, high ocane fuel (99 + booster) 3in de-cat exhaust etc etc. I guess most of you guys would probably have to take the mods further as I\'m sure you wouldn\'t want to strip all your interior (and more) to achieve the \'magical\' 100mph, like I did.
Cheers,
Nick
Quote from: grinder;508985the 0-60 at 5.5 - thats very impressive - i like that i really do - im sure the book figures are 7.2 ( i think )
Nah, The Book figure for a standard TII is 6.2.
Quote from: TeamTotalWankel;50895314.091 @ 105.24mph
Oh, and a 0-60mph recorded at 5.573 secs :)
Well done that man - that\'s my target to beat then in my heavy old bus !
Quote from: Kron;509018Nah, The Book figure for a standard TII is 6.2.
And 6.5 for the vert - and I\'m well under 6 now ;)
Yep I\'m hoping for sub 14 sec and over 100mph over the line this year. Not sure i\'ll be able to do it but i\'m gonna try. I\'m not sure how my new suspension will cope with the launch. ( I think it will be too hard)
Oh and well done TTW.
Quote from: Kron;509018Nah, The Book figure for a standard TII is 6.2.
I wonder how many std TIIs would achieve that figure today :confused: Especially driven by their caring owners instead of a \'banzai\' road tester :2Mad
Mines got 118k on it and I doubt it would have done it before I started, but hey she flys now :D
Thats great work :)
My best run at Japshow was 15.54 at 94, with rubbish 60ft time. I need to work on my launch, and the power is still hopelessly high in the rev band - got to get that emanage on soon :(
I reckon there\'s a 14 in this car somewhere :driving
Wierdly, the car feels so much quicker on the road - I can\'t put my finger on it.
How hard are you launching?
I think that\'s a good time.
From what I remember all stock fd\'s I have heard going down the strip ahve run 14 something at the quickest.
rdgs
Brian
Quote from: Prof;511533My best run at Japshow was 15.54 at 94, with rubbish 60ft time. I need to work on my launch, and the power is still hopelessly high in the rev band - got to get that emanage on soon :(
I reckon there\'s a 14 in this car somewhere :driving
Wierdly, the car feels so much quicker on the road - I can\'t put my finger on it.
2ND Gen
1986 Mazda RX-7 GXL 8.5 16.5
1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.6 15.2
1988 Mazda RX-7 Conv. 9.7 17.5
1989 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.5 16.5
1989 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.7 15.1
1990 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.6 16.7
1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II 6.3 14.9
1991 Mazda RX-7 Conv. 8.8 16.7
1991 Mazda RX-7 Infini IV 7.0 14.9
Some Mag figures I picked up for 0-60 and quarter mile for stock 2nd gens
Your quarter mile time seems to be correct for a stock turbo with the heavier conv body, you need to have just over 300bhp to get into 14s
Quote from: BlitzBoy;5115892ND Gen
1986 Mazda RX-7 GXL 8.5 16.5
1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.6 15.2
1988 Mazda RX-7 Conv. 9.7 17.5
1989 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.5 16.5
1989 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.7 15.1
1990 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.6 16.7
1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II 6.3 14.9
1991 Mazda RX-7 Conv. 8.8 16.7
1991 Mazda RX-7 Infini IV 7.0 14.9
Some Mag figures I picked up for 0-60 and quarter mile for stock 2nd gens
Your quarter mile time seems to be correct for a stock turbo with the heavier conv body, you need to have just over 300bhp to get into 14s
You forgot:
Mark\'s 1989 Mazda RX7 Turbo II 3yrs 1month so far and still not crossed the line! :rollin
Quote from: Brett;511573How hard are you launching?
Not hard enough it seems...
I think I dialled in about 3K rpm\'s - and then slipped the clutch in pretty quick from biting - got very little wheel spin, but slow pickup. Turbo really spools about 4K - but I didn\'t want to rag the clutch just yet.
Quote from: BlitzBoy;5115892ND Gen
1986 Mazda RX-7 GXL 8.5 16.5
1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.6 15.2
1988 Mazda RX-7 Conv. 9.7 17.5
1989 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.5 16.5
1989 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.7 15.1
1990 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.6 16.7
1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II 6.3 14.9
1991 Mazda RX-7 Conv. 8.8 16.7
1991 Mazda RX-7 Infini IV 7.0 14.9
Some Mag figures I picked up for 0-60 and quarter mile for stock 2nd gens
Your quarter mile time seems to be correct for a stock turbo with the heavier conv body, you need to have just over 300bhp to get into 14s
They seem a bit odd - as the Infini IV had 220 BHP - as opposed to the 200 BHP in the Turbo II - so surely a better 0-60 ?
The convertable figures in the table are probably for the american N/A version - the UK and Jap markets got the Tubby version
I\'m running a little over 300 BHP - but the power curve is towards the top end as is the torque peak - so my power in gear isn\'t over such a long spread. UK Tubby II vert is about 1560 KG\'s - without the spare tyre probably closer to 1500KG, and with my weight added - closer to 1600 again ;)
yep the weight of your car is killing the performance on the strip.
You are launching to low an rpm, try 4.5K load up on the handbrake to stop it rolling as you find the biting point on the line then launch
Quote from: bnaellis;511582I think that\'s a good time.
From what I remember all stock fd\'s I have heard going down the strip ahve run 14 something at the quickest.
rdgs
Brian
I ran a 14.4 last year in my stock FD, I think I could shave a little off that with practise but I don\'t think there is a 13 in it.
Quote from: robedwards99;511630I ran a 14.4 last year in my stock FD, I think I could shave a little off that with practise but I don\'t think there is a 13 in it.
Same to you Rob, that\'s a good time, there\'s plenty of people spent thousands on their fd with performance mods and only running 1 second quicker over 1/4 mile.
rgds
Brian
As Colin Chapman would say weight is everything, John 88GTR holds the current UK record for a modified FC at 11.3 the thing had everything stripped and weighs in around 1100kgs
Quote from: BlitzBoy;511635As Colin Chapman would say weight is everything, John 88GTR holds the current UK record for a modified FC at 11.3 the thing had everything stripped and weighs in around 1100kgs
excuse my ignorus anus who\'s Colin Chapman when he\'s at home ???
rgds
Brian
oh dear Bri!!!!
He invented the Lotus Seven hahaha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Chapman
world famous automotive designer of Lotus Fame (Lotus 7 amongst others)
Hangs head in shame. lol name rings a bell now.
rdgs
Brian
14.1 one in mine last year but it slightly moded.
My \'91 stock turbo II ran a 15.04 :)
i will be happy to get mid 15\'s before the 48IDA goes on, had a few more mods since my run last year at RS, might run at retro show but i dont think the 48 will be on the car for RS this year, should be for Jap Show Oct:Giggle
Mark
My best run was against Shaun in his FD this year. A 14.38 @ 100.01 and a 60ft of 2.28. I was hoping for 13\'s this year but it didn\'t happen :( although I am now a member of the 100 mph club so im happy for now :). Next year Shaun I\'ll have you!
I did beat my mate\'s Skyline thats running 303.4 bhp though so that was good too!
Quote from: adereed;523368My best run was against Shaun in his FD this year. A 14.38 @ 100.01 and a 60ft of 2.28. I was hoping for 13\'s this year but it didn\'t happen :( although I am now a member of the 100 mph club so im happy for now :). Next year Shaun I\'ll have you!
Nice work there :D - I wasn\'t even in the running this time - best was a 16.3 - I\'m blaming the eManage as I got 15.5 at Japshow - any more modding and I\'ll be going backwards :rollin
Quote from: mpk490p;511687i will be happy to get mid 15\'s before the 48IDA goes on, had a few more mods since my run last year at RS, might run at retro show but i dont think the 48 will be on the car for RS this year, should be for Jap Show Oct:Giggle
Mark
Managed a 15.83 at RS5 so its getting there :D
Dave there was a strong head wind too which might explan you better times last outting
Mark
QuoteNice work there - I wasn\'t even in the running this time - best was a 16.3 - I\'m blaming the eManage as I got 15.5 at Japshow - any more modding and I\'ll be going backwards
Thanks. I saw you running towards the end of the day. You seemed to be struggling to get off the line. Like you were bogging down or something. Can you set the eManage up so that you can come on boost sooner to help?
Mine only got a 15.04 at japshow, but the air filter was partly blocked so I will have to try again with a better intercooler :D
Quote from: mpk490p;523486Managed a 15.83 at RS5 so its getting there :D
Dave there was a strong head wind too which might explan you better times last outting
Mark
Was head winds at JapShow as well - so I suspect that the eManage is somehow sapping power in the mid range - I\'m going to start logging the ignition timing and see if it advances / retards in the places it should. I could feel the power begin to kick in right at the end of the rev range - but then I had to change gear :2Rolleyes - it spooled faster after I\'d altered settings on the boost controller for Japshow - and those are still in place - so since the only thing that\'s changed is running injector and ignition through the eManage now - it has to be that.
last year i managed a 14.1 @ 99mph at the pod and dyno showed 220 bhp on a stock JDM TII apart from bolt-ons exahuast, induction kit and coilovers.
I admitt i was launching at a silly 5500rpm to do it...the the best thing for a clutch lol
I just ran a 14.8 @ 93mph at a RWYB day on my stock FC
Now running 14.2 @ 99.02 mph @ 0.6 bar of boost at Japshow, light modding :)
I can\'t wait to see what I can run now. I have run 14.1 @ 98.something but I have also run 14.3 @ 103mph so im not really sure what to expect this year.
Can\'t wait to put the new rad in so that I can increase the boost to what its mapped for :D
Mark stole my T2 and ran a 12.7 at 115mph at the jap show.
Quite chuffed with that
Quote from: vixpy1;618748Mark stole my T2 and ran a 12.7 at 115mph at the jap show.
Quite chuffed with that
ooh.. whats the spec on ur TII?? :D
T78 at 1 bar, caged with no interior lol.
We built it for track work, but I rarely get to track it. Mark\'s rex is in bits so I lent him the T2.
My best run was 15.98 at 84.39mph yesterday at Santa Pod
Quote from: Skifledanabit;618853My best run was 15.98 at 84.39mph yesterday at Santa Pod
That\'s not a bad time for an EGI - well done :)
I could only manage a piffling 15.4 @ 94 mph - all my other runs were low 16\'s. Boost comes on late, start is very poor (driver) but it comes on strong at the top end so it\'s getting there. Running 12-13 psi boost for those runs :driving
i guess its because i have no turbo lag to deal with, hence why i destroyed the G35 skyline off the tree... damned turbos always spoil my wins!!!
I know nobody updates this now, but...
12.4@119.5mph (12.4@119.5mph).
Tiny little T04E 57trim.
Nice time Stavros, thats impressive on such a baby.
How hard are you folks running? Full throttle changes etc ?
Koose-
Yeah, I was very impressed with the terminal speed for such a small turbo, thats more than a Audi R8 V10!
I was pretty sure before I started I could push more performance from the tiny little turbo than most say is possible, and im pleased to say the terminal speeds seem to say I was right.
The 1/4mile could be a lot better, as that was still a very slow 2sec 60ft, and very slow gear changes to save the box, and certainly not full throttle shifts. Would be mid or even low 11s with a 1.6 60ft and fast gearchanges, hell, with a serious drag 60ft time and a dog box it would probably see 10s, which is comedy really on a little T04E on a rotary, lol.
Yeah, no its good stuff dude.
Are you Jonjos mate Stav ?
Also, is the FC mainly a drift car for you? Or just an all round fun machine ?
Mizzi? If so, yeah, small world!
And although it was built in Japan as a pro drift car, to be competitive in drifting the setup needs to be pretty much how a grip/time attack car would be, so its good for either, though not exactly setup for launching too great.
I use it as a general fun car, limiting myself to it being good at just one thing means I wouldnt get much use out of it, so its done loads of drift days, a sprint event, drag runs, and loads of road use.
Yeah thats kindof why i never got to deep it not he whole drifting thing when it took off yrs ago, i just like to be in a fun car, with my foot down, and not harming anyone :D Call that waht you want!
Yeah i went to school with Jonjo :) See you round.
Took are EGI to Shoreham Runway and it was a 1km runway including the braking distance.
0-60 in 8.4
0-100 in 23.9
Not bad considering it is a 23 year old car I think
And we also got the best tyre screeching :Thumbs-up
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