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Cars by Model Type => Cosmo's and Other Rotary Powered Vehicles => Rotary Motorbikes => Topic started by: travellinbob on August 26, 2005, 08:39:47 PM

Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: travellinbob on August 26, 2005, 08:39:47 PM
Hi guys I recently bought an old copy(4th feb 1960) of The Motor Cycle magazine on e-bay because it had an interesting article on an Italian rotaru engine likened to the wankel.
 It is a very small article but has a few cool photos. Has anyone heard of this before?
 One quote that I thought was potentially mind blowing was this

 " Imario\'s engine works on a similar principal tp the NSU-Wankel engine, though the rotor may have more than three flanks and the chamber more than two lobes."
 
  That is a concept I have never heard of before.


 Also hope that by quoting this magazine article i have not done bad things with reguard to copyright. If any mod thinks I might have please delete and ban me fopr life.! :evillaugh
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: g11ary on August 26, 2005, 08:43:27 PM
Ok concider yourself banned, power, what a wonderful thing.

There was alink on here a while ago on some rotors that have had more than 3 side, if I recall 4 and more sided rotors have been expirmented with, non ever in production?
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: travellinbob on August 26, 2005, 08:49:33 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, banned, how, why.... life will never be the same.....(cue the tears)
 

  If anyone knows the link I would be happy to buy them beer if and when I was to meet them.( NB, only beer on offer ok!)
 Mind you if i am banned then..........?  sniff sniff...
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: g11ary on August 26, 2005, 09:01:46 PM
Ok your not banned, sometimes Im just too soft. (no comments please)

You might find this interesting.
http://www.monito.com/wankel/vehicles.html#misc
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Carl on August 26, 2005, 09:28:22 PM
Felix Wankel put together many many idea\'s into a compilation and accreddited many other types and ideas for rotary engines to the various inventors,among them were derivations of the same principle that he used for the 3 lobe rotor and two lobe housing,but with 4 rotor lobes,and 3 housings lobes,and so on.
Regards
Carl
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Brett on August 30, 2005, 09:40:50 AM
I\'m tempted to send a letter to Rolls Royce regarding their Rotary experiments, if I get a response I\'ll let you know :)
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Carl on August 30, 2005, 09:44:28 AM
I have seen two of the Rolls Royce engines.
Regards
Carl
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: iaint on August 30, 2005, 10:14:39 AM
Quote from: CarlI have seen two of the Rolls Royce engines.
Rergards
Carl

Typically cryptic Carl reply there!

Details Carl, details..?
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Ricco_04 on August 30, 2005, 01:12:07 PM
Rolls Royce expiremented with the setup like no one else but Mazda!  They built 1,2,3,4 rotor engines, diesel ones and some with more than 3 tips!

Nissan, General Motors, Mazda, Mercedes, Suzuki and Norton also dabbled with Rotary\'s (cant remember who else)
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Carl on August 30, 2005, 05:35:50 PM
I think that the most prolific players with the Wankel engine are Curtiss Wright.
The made an engine with a rotor almost as big as a man,the only trouble was that it\'s flame front could not keep up with the rotor!
They made many multi rotor engines including 6 rotor ones.
Regards
Carl
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Ricco_04 on August 30, 2005, 08:16:25 PM
Quote from: CarlI think that the most prolific players with the Wankel engine are Curtiss Wright.  They made an engine with a rotor almost as big as a man

Wow thats just ace!  :3gears-lh

And sure enough I just found this - talk about engine bulge!!
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Brett on August 31, 2005, 05:09:41 PM
Nice pic,  can we have some liks to any sites with good write ups?
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Ricco_04 on August 31, 2005, 05:19:48 PM
I got this from the post Lisa did the other day (about MRC being the daddy!  :cool  )  Was one from the rotary top 100.  I did mean to credit it,  I\'ll have a look see when I get home.
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Norton on September 01, 2005, 01:19:00 AM
This single rotor monster measured 31,500 cc\'s and produced 780 bhp at just 1500 rpm. I dont think that it would fit in a bike though  :D
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Martiny on September 01, 2005, 08:56:45 AM
I dont think thats the biggest, I am pretty sure Rolls -Royce made a bigger one....
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Carl on September 01, 2005, 09:08:32 AM
Quote from: MartinyI dont think thats the biggest, I am pretty sure Rolls -Royce made a bigger one....

In the flesh the Rolls Royce ones appear smaller to me that the Curtiss Wright one.
The Rolls ones were of a big rotor and a small rotor combined.The big rotor fed the smaller rotor.
Regards
Carl
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Martiny on September 01, 2005, 10:33:01 AM
Ah thats correct, Carl. The big rotor was the supercharger for the small one.
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Ada7 on September 01, 2005, 10:40:36 AM
I\'m guessing that these huge rotoary engines went in to planes yeh? Any pitures of the planes themsevles? And why are the Rolls Royce engines such a big mystery? do they not let anyone see them or something? :)

Adam
Title: Imario rotary engine
Post by: Martiny on September 01, 2005, 11:32:54 AM
I doubt they were for planes, Tanks and the like IIRC