It doesn\'t make it faster, louder, shinier, or sexier.
It isn\'t cool, but you will want one :yes
As fitted to my FD, behold the Fumoto Engine Oil Drain Valve :eek :
(http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=11683&stc=1)
Yes, it\'s a tap for your sump! No more boiling oil up your arm! No more fishing for the sump plug in filthy oil! No more generally nasty mess! And it only costs $27.95 including shipping from http://www.fumotovalve.com/ :D Size F106 fits FD\'s and most other Mazdas, that is what you see in the picture.
And no, I don\'t work for them ;)
the simple ideas are usually the best !
so how do you open the "tap" then ?
My photo wasn\'t taken from the best angle, unfortunately. On the far side of the valve is a small handle thing which locks into place when shut, as in the photo. You lift the handle to unlock, and turn it 1/4 turn to open. This is from their website:
(https://ssl2.adhost.com/fumotovalve/graphics/Valve.gif)
It makes you wonder why no-one thought of it before, I mean, we have only been changing engine oil for 100-odd years now!
seems like a fantasic idea :cool
Just one small worry ??? What happens if a stone hits the handle and happily opens the tap ?? Does look a cool gizmo though !
Shaun
The handle is held in the locked position by a spring, and is pretty stiff to open as well. I think you would have to hit it on a log or a large rock to have any chance of it opening, and anyway, you can always put a pipe clip on it to stop the handle from being lifted up.
As they say on their website: "Over 2,000,000 Engine Oil Drain Valves have been sold in the past eight years and no problems have been reported."
I don\'t think that anyone here goes off-roading in their rotaries (although I am willing to be proved wrong :) ) and so I don\'t think there is anything to worry about.
Totally agree with you mate , got one of these jobbies a while back , first oil change after I\'de fitted it was sssooooooooooo quick , easy and clean :cool
Quote from: paultakataI don\'t think that anyone here goes off-roading in their rotaries (although I am willing to be proved wrong :) ) and so I don\'t think there is anything to worry about.
Not intentionally maybe but a fair few managed it this past winter..! Generally they\'d have more to worry about than leaking oil though.
If some kind soul (with more time on their hands) would be interested in organising a group buy on this then I\'m sure they\'d be on lots of people\'s christmas card list...
*rubs hands together* group buy, sounds good :D
im on it :)
Dear Mr. Harrison
We have considered the proposal you made in your email of June 27.
It would give us great pleasure to supply "Engine Oil Drain Valve" to
Mazda Rotary Forum members.
We should like to offer this to you, and therefore prepared to give you
a special discount of 10% for 10 or more and 15% for 30 or more as a group
buy.
Thank you for your consideration. We await your reply.
Best regards,
YM International Company
On-line Distributor of Fumoto Oil Drain Valve
is this info any use to anyone ??
Good work,
Put me down for one!
Thank you please,
I\'ll have one to.
I\'m in please :)
errrrrr hiya guys !
who is gonna actually sort this out ??
< stu backs away from the PC >
Well Stu, you\'ve made such a promising start :)
I\'ll take one please...
H
Add your names to the list and we\'ll see how far we get and therefore what the price will be (to make it simpler for Stu to organise ;p):
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
Let me know where to send the money :D
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11.Gerry M
Quote from: Gerry M1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11.Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
:D and 1 for me please
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11.Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
Me too (What are the chance of that? Someone posts at the same time as me, so i had to edit my post to include \'em!)
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
oooooooh we cant leave it at 13 :o , so l will have one :D
newbies eh..! ;)
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
half way there :)
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
im not even sure i want one !! LOL ( or would it be rude not to ?? )
i have emailed the company again to see what we can do about shipping - it could work out expensive if "someone" has to re-send them out from the uk
so im gonna try and do it so that "someone" orders them all and supplies all the address - and then they send them all out to you guys
bear with me until they get back to me - nice list though !!
ta
stu
While you emailing them I\'de check that its the same one for all gens , can\'t remember from when I got mine
put me down too then
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
17. Shark
I\'ll have one too...
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
17. Shark
18. Leggy
who ever sorts it out count me in!!!
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
17. Shark
18. Leggy
19. jamie_eaton
:)
Only 11 to go...
(Although the difference between 10 and 15% in GBP is 78p per item!!)
thats probably an extra 1/16th of a mile in petrol money, dont knock it :)
or an even better way to put it 1/3rd of a beer :D
oooh raise the percentage me says!!!
Put me down for 1 please
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
17. Shark
18. Leggy
19. jamie_eaton
20. John Yorke
Hi fellow rx\'ers. Does any body know if these will fit 8\'s? Cheers,
Ian.
Go on then stick me on the list :)
Shaun
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
17. Shark
18. Leggy
19. jamie_eaton
20. John Yorke
21. shaunwil
btw, just cos im updating the list doesnt meant im taking over grinders job of organising the group buy :D :D just very keen for the extra 75p :)
count me in please. Anything to make life easier.
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
17. Shark
18. Leggy
19. jamie_eaton
20. John Yorke
21. shaunwil
22. peterch
btw the way you can stick yourselves on chaps :)
QuoteAdd your names to the list and we\'ll see how far we get and therefore what the price will be (to make it simpler for Stu to organise ;p):
I\'ll have one of these :D
Stick yourself on the list then...there\'s a good boy! ;)
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
17. Shark
18. Leggy
19. jamie_eaton
20. John Yorke
21. shaunwil
22. peterch
23. *Bowsy*
Is that better :D
Wow, look what I started, a veritable flood of orders! I should have pushed for commission ;)
Quote from: IanmcurtisHi fellow rx\'ers. Does any body know if these will fit 8\'s? Cheers,
Ian.
Ian, AFAIK, this size of valve fits all Mazdas except some with a Ford engine, so it should be fine. You should check that the drain hole is not recessed into the oil pan though, as you will need an adapter if it is.
Cheers AFAIK, I\'ll check that out.
Ian. :wave
QuoteIs that better
Much! Well done! :D
Quote from: IanmcurtisCheers AFAIK, I\'ll check that out.
Ian. :wave
I think his name\'s Paul. AFAIK is an anacronym for \'As Far As I Know\' :D
bit of an update - does this make life easier for you guys :
*******************************
Dear Mr. Harrison
We will offer a special 10% discount for all Mazda Rotary Forum members.
Please use YM4 as a discount code when your member ordering online.
It will give automatically 10% off at the purchase.
Thank you,
YM International Company
On-line Distributor of Fumoto Oil Drain Valve
*******************************
this way each drain plug will be sent direct to each of you thus saving me shipping them on ??
is this better ( and also its not a group by now ) - and possibly use this code forever ??
ta
stu
nice one dude.
PS, Grinder you still got those s5 rear lights???
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
17. Shark
18. Leggy
19. jamie_eaton
20. John Yorke
21. shaunwil
22. peterch
23. *Bowsy*
24. TURBOIINUTTAH (Nas)
yeah i still have the rear lights
and are we still continuing with a group buy when people can buy their own using the discrount code ??
thanks
stu
Doing as one order will save $4 per item international postage but at the effort and cost of postage within the UK.
Whoever ends up organising this could simplify matters by asking group buyers sent them a stamped & addressed jiffy bag prior to it being sent out and thus reducing the actual cost. I\'d also suggest cash up front with a strict sut-off date...
cheers grinder. where is chorley again? i live in south yorkshire,
sorry mate, im full of cold and not very with it, i will get onto ordering it myself. thanks again mate.
then again iaint does have a point!!!
Quote from: iaintI think his name\'s Paul.
Quite right, Paul is me, I am he :wave
Hi Paul,
Sos for any wrong doing - I\'m really not up with all these acronym\'s and thanks iaint for pointing it out - I really should have read who had sent the reply b4 i wrote. I do it all the time - BTW. I\'m old but still trying to learn new tricks.
Ian.
No apology needed Ian, I shouldn\'t be so lazy when typing out my posts ;)
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
17. Shark
18. Leggy
19. jamie_eaton
20. John Yorke
21. shaunwil
22. peterch
23. *Bowsy*
24. TURBOIINUTTAH (nas)
25. DFLROWLAND
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
17. Shark
18. Leggy
19. jamie_eaton
20. John Yorke
21. shaunwil
22. peterch
23. *Bowsy*
24. TURBOIINUTTAH (nas)
25. DFLROWLAND
26. K1HKS arse
Quote from: TURBOIINUTTAHcheers grinder. where is chorley again? i live in south yorkshire,
sorry mate, im full of cold and not very with it, i will get onto ordering it myself. thanks again mate.
then again iaint does have a point!!!
chorley - is sort of bwtween preston and manchester - where abouts are you in yorkshire ??
and regarding this oil thingy - whats the state of play - i still reckon its easier for you guys to use the discount code and order it your self - like i said
1 - save someone posting them on
2 - saves you lot having to buy a jiffy and stamps
3 - gets round the import tax ( if i buy 30 - ekkk gonna get shafted by customs )
4 - i dont need to do anything more
5 - if there is a problem you can take it up direct with them
6 - i like number 4 so read that line again
thanks
stu
( unless someone wants to take the group buy on - then thats fine aswell )
Fair play - so what\'s the web site address to do it ourselves?
I would say that for those on the list that come to the Dartford meet, it might be an idea to get them posted to one person and they take them to the meet. Thus cutting down on the postage costs. ;)
Fish
Quote from: FishI would say that for those on the list that come to the Dartford meet, it might be an idea to get them posted to one person and they take them to the meet. Thus cutting down on the postage costs. ;)
Fish
Is that an offer to arrange Danny?
I think it might just be. YES
Fish
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3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
17. Shark
18. Leggy
19. jamie_eaton
20. John Yorke
21. shaunwil
22. peterch
23. *Bowsy*
24. TURBOIINUTTAH (nas)
25. DFLROWLAND
26. K1HKS arse
27. Laeeq
I will have 1 too.
cheers
After much deliberation ive decided to abandon the chance of saving an additional 78p and will order direct with them and get the 10% :)
Like you say Grinder a lot easier I reckon :)
Just before I order....
I take it its just the normal F106 that fits the FD, or do I need the one with nipples and/or adapters?
I\'ll order one direct aswell it just seems easier.
Hi
Can any one tell me how easy is it to install for a non mechanical person....
Does it fit to an existing part ?
Regards,
Michaelb
I think its pretty much screw in, remove the sump plug and washer and replace with the new valve
Quote from: ScuttleRXI think its pretty much screw in, remove the sump plug and washer and replace with the new valve
Thanks for that
I am going to get one.
Regards,
Michaelb
Quote from: michaelbHi
Can any one tell me how easy is it to install for a non mechanical person....
Does it fit to an existing part ?
Regards,
Michaelb
Most important thing is you absolutely need to get axle stands to do this. Don\'t use the emergency jack and don;t trust a hydraulic jack either.
It\'s a really simple job to change and you can do a full oil change at the same time and save yourself a trip to a mechanic :)
Check the downpipe nuts on the underside while your under there, dont know if this is a common problem but I had mine come loose a while back, might have just been shoddy work by garage who fitted it
Quote from: iaintMost important thing is you absolutely need to get axle stands to do this. Don\'t use the emergency jack and don;t trust a hydraulic jack either.
It\'s a really simple job to change and you can do a full oil change at the same time and save yourself a trip to a mechanic :)
I guess you are right, the car has to go up...I don’t have an axle stand so this will have to be done on my next trip to REWORKS. Better save then sorry
Thanks 4 the tip...
Regards,
Michaelb
Quote from: ScuttleRXCheck the downpipe nuts on the underside while your under there, dont know if this is a common problem but I had mine come loose a while back, might have just been shoddy work by garage who fitted it
Thanks for that I will have it checked...
Regards,
Michaelb
Quote from: ScuttleRXJust before I order....
I take it its just the normal F106 that fits the FD, or do I need the one with nipples and/or adapters?
Yup, the normal one is fine, no adapter needed. The ones with nipples are meant for stationary engines, marine engines and the like where it is impractical to put a plastic tub under the drain hole. You push a rubber hose onto the nipple and drain the oil to somewhere more accessible.
lovely, cheers for that, quite lucky really cos I literally just placed the order :)
...and I was wondering what the nipple was for :)
Know what you mean. Did an oil chage in the drive. Cost about 20 quid for the oil and the filter. Plus the motorfactors had the filter listed in the book :eek. Will i get more oil out if i lift the car on blocks and keep it level ?
Shaun
Quote from: shaunwilKnow what you mean. Did an oil chage in the drive. Cost about 20 quid for the oil and the filter. Plus the motorfactors had the filter listed in the book :eek. Will i get more oil out if i lift the car on blocks and keep it level ?
Shaun
Probably not a significant amount. most of the oil that doesn;t get changes is in the oil cooler piping and cooler(s) from what I\'ve read.
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
17. Shark
18. Leggy
19. jamie_eaton
20. John Yorke
21. shaunwil
22. peterch
23. *Bowsy*
24. TURBOIINUTTAH (nas)
25. DFLROWLAND
26. K1HKS arse
27. Laeeq
28. Top Gear Towers
Count me in :)
I\'m in too. 29 me thinks.
Are people still going ahead with group buy or using the 10% discount we have been offered?
If group buy is going ahead I need knocking off the list cos ive already ordered one with discount, think a few others may have too.
Very easy to do BTW, there is a discount code section in online order form, enter [removed] and it will knock 10% off straight away
Surely with the sheer number of us (almost 30) we could get more than 10% as a one off group buy?
just put off by the hassle, and the fact no-one really fancies organising it, and that your only saving a few extra pence
Thanks to Grinder though for enquiring and getting us the 10% :cheers
I think the current plan is that Danny (fish) will organise a mini-buy for people who can collect the plugs at the pub meet and save $4 postage each. We\'re basically that tight. :D
I could be wrong though.
:) oh yeah thats it, I cant make the pub meets cos im always working :(
Looking at it, I\'ll just buy it with the discount. For the cost difference it doesn\'t make much sense. Great that the discount is there though !
Sorry if that messes things up !
Shaun
Just ordered one with the discount code, works out about 14-15 quid :)
Cheers
Shaun
Has anyone fitted one of these valves, are they as good as they claim to be?
I know the last post before this is a few years old so I’m hoping most of the people who wanted to order one will have some decent feedback.
I have ordered my RX-7 from Jimmy’s RX-7\'s and just waiting to pick it up in the next couple of weeks. So was wondering if I should fit this valve when I first change the oil?
Cheers,
James.
Yeah, I fitted one last year, I\'ve a done a couple of changes since, and so far it\'s held up fine. The valve still works fine and it\'s not rusty at all.
ill have 1 if there is a mini buy
Iain,
This thread was dug up from over a year ago! You don\'t really need to doa group buy, they\'re very reasonably priced anyway, and the shipping was very fast from the US to me.
A useful little valve, I wouln\'t say I couldn\'t live without it though!
I\'ve got a better idea. Got loads of these!! LOL
:Giggle
I just ordered one :D Discount code still works for those that are interested....oil change soon so I\'ll hold off till this arrives :)
nice one-i\'m gonna order one now.
has anyone with standard twin turbos worked out a way of removing the oil filter without taking the intake elbow and throttle body off yet!? then an oil change really would be easy. if only they had mounted it a few mil further out. :rolleyes:
If you loosen the filter off a little then drain all the oil out of the engine, when you come to take the filter off completely, most/all of the oil should of drained off so you wont have an problem in getting oil everywhere and the filter should be easy to take out
Adam
please dont post the code in this section of the forum
a discount code was made available as just another reason to become a member
thanks
stu
Quote from: Ada7If you loosen the filter off a little then drain all the oil out of the engine, when you come to take the filter off completely, most/all of the oil should of drained off so you wont have an problem in getting oil everywhere and the filter should be easy to take out
Adam
it\'s not the fact that it will be messy, it won\'t physically come out unless i remove the elbow and tb. i thought it may just be my car but it was the same on mooseman\'s FD. you can unscrew it a certain way but then it just hits a screw and won\'t go any further.
Quote from: RAWit\'s not the fact that it will be messy, it won\'t physically come out unless i remove the elbow and tb. i thought it may just be my car but it was the same on mooseman\'s FD. you can unscrew it a certain way but then it just hits a screw and won\'t go any further.
You sure you\'ve got the correct filter on, then? Never had a problem changing filters. Used 3 or 4 different brands over the years - they are all small and quite compact in size.
I\'ve never had a problem removing the filter.... I get the size that Halford\'s have in their little look-up book in-store.
Me too - I can\'t recall having taken the elbow or anything else off when i\'ve done mine.
I\'ve been using the Mazda originals (got a box of them a few years ago) and they\'re easy to get off.
sounds like there\'s something raising the height of the take off, maybe a plate for oil temp sensor?
hmm thats interesting-i will have to have a closer look and take some photos. i do have an oil pressure and temp gauge. i use halfords filters too.
Cool! Just for record, I too use a sandwich plate and have no issues removing the filter come change time.
Got my new filter though Opie oils and didnt have a problem getting the old one off or the new one on.
Adam
1. Iaint
2. ScuttleRX
3. Stu (Grinder)
4. Kieron
5. allstaruk
6. Smifta
7. Spotlamp
8. Fish
9. Donato
10. Sy.
11. Gerry M
12. OLSKOOLROTAR
13. Nikp
14. Clive
15. FD3UK
16. Ada7
17. Shark
18. Leggy
19. jamie_eaton
20. John Yorke
21. shaunwil
22. peterch
23. *Bowsy*
24. RedRummy
me want, me want. :)
Mr RedRummy - the group buy failed - if you look in the members section there is a link to the site and a discount code - just use that :D
Stu
Quote from: grinderMr RedRummy - the group buy failed - if you look in the members section there is a link to the site and a discount code - just use that :D
Stu
Oops, just saw the date of the postings.... :spank
nevermind... I\'ll get one direct
ta :Viking