coming back along the motorway taking it easy at 80 when this happened... I did **** my pants but the car surprisingly didnt go out of control too much..i was right next to an artic lorry when this happened..the bugger is that i left my locking key at home so i had to get a relative to bring it to me..it happened right outside the fort dunlop factory by in birmingham..its done a bit of damage to the wheel arch but nothing too worrying. The car look well daft now with the mini metro spare wheel :rollin :rollin
Wow, glad to hear you\'re ok buddy :)
Lucky boy. Hope you get it sorted soon.
Fish
OMG, thank god your ok. Has it mangled the alloy as well ?
At least your in one peice !
Shaun
i cant believe this happened and i cant believe i didn`t crash the car at the speed i was going..thats one of my 9 lives gone..the alloy wheel is fine but i need a new rear wheel arch liner. its pulled the wheel arch out slightly but nothing a sideskirt wont hide and its scraped all the undercoating off the petrol tank and wishbones. I must say these tyres are absolute crap! they dont even have any steel reinforcement in them..looks like getting 4 new uk tyres.
more damage
What tyres were they mate? I will post a tel number up for you if you have trouble finding any bits. My local scrap dealer drives a FD and has 4 in his yard, if that helps mate?
I will be at RS11 again in the morning as made it to the last 32. If you need that number and i\'m not on line call me on 07771882430.:wave
Glad you came through that with very little damage to your car and none to yourself.
Your luck was with you that day!!
Hi
You were lucky it ws not a front tyre....Any way metal parts can be replaced buy life can not. At the end of the day it is only metal..Sorry to hear about the damage...
Regards,
Michaelb
PS Which car were you at the rotorstock ? Mine was 96 all white
RB Bathurst with 99 front spec and Mazda Speed Spoiler.
Glad your ok Robbie, Tyres like that are dangerous, think it\'s in all our interests to know which ones to avoid, What make are they?
Cheers Bob
you are very lucky to come away with little damage and your bodys intact.
an excuse to go for some new shoes :p
:)
thanks for the offer wartog. but i am buying 4 wheels with tyres off another mrc member.
For everyones information the tyre was FALKEN AZENIS ST115 225/50/R16
they were the original tyres on the car when it came over from japan. Is this the reason some people get the tyres changed when a car comes over from japan?
the way this tyre ripped is how a typical lorry tyre would rip..it ripped the tyre tread clean off and only the sidewalls were attached to the wheel!:eek:
michael b this was my car
only joking :D mine is the car in the background with the latest state-of-the-art grey carbon steel door:rollin
it was kinda embarrasing bringing the car down like :o but the way i think is `thing could always be worse` and i am living proof of that :cool
As i understand it, The tyres on the import cars coming over do not suit our roads, one of many reasons i bought the car i did is that it already had 17inch UK tyres on, i gather it is something to do with the compound used in Japan, i think there were a couple of club cars that lost control and crashed last year because of this. hopefully more knowledgeable guys will add to this, as it is rather important to us all.
Bob
QuoteOriginally posted by ro284
As i understand it, The tyres on the import cars coming over do not suit our roads, one of many reasons i bought the car i did is that it already had 17inch UK tyres on, i gather it is something to do with the compound used in Japan, i think there were a couple of club cars that lost control and crashed last year because of this. hopefully more knowledgeable guys will add to this, as it is rather important to us all.
Bob
Jap spec tyres do have a harder compound than euro tyres apparently and they just don\'t seem to get on with our roads at all. They\'re also lethal in the wet.
At the end of the day though, tyres don\'t crash cars (unless they fail structurally!) - lack of talent/over confidence/mis-judgement are what generally sticks FDs into hedges. Even the \'patch of diesel\' excuse is just that, an excuse. :D Not saying I\'m not guilty of those \'sins\' myself though - 1 spin and a few unexpected sideways moments and I\'m lucky unlike others.
Get decent tyres on the car and keep them in good nick. Do the sensible things like get a decent tyre-pressure gauge and check them regularly. No point having a performance car and compromising it where it matters.
Very odd looking wheel setup you got there!:rollin, WHats road holding like ????
QuoteOriginally posted by normski
Very odd looking wheel setup you got there!:rollin, WHats road holding like ????
SCARY!!:rollin :rollin
Yeah, harder rubber on the jap tyres - they are also subject to hotter summer temps and therefore go a bit harder as they have been \'baked\' again. Its has been introduced in the SVA a few months ago now that cars must have tyres changed to UK regs/specs - obviously if your car was imported before this and you havn\'d used it much than you may still have Jap rubber on them!
de ja vu :) when i bought my rex a couple of months ago i was driving it home from scotland down a dual carriage way at about 70-80, in second lane next to an artic when exactly the same thing happened as to you! my tyre looked the same afterwards too, it\'s in the garage at home but will post a pic this week when i get back. mine was on the front wheel though, thankfully it didn\'t cause any other damage and i retained control of the car.
Firstly, glad to hear you\'re OK. I\'ve had a blowout at the rear at high speed before and it resulted in a spin across 3 lanes of dual carriageway, luckily no accident resulted, but scary as hell.
Thoughts and knowledge:
Most performance tyres are made in Japan nowadays, aside from Kumho, Pirelli (Made in China these days), etc. Bridgestone, for example is wholy owned in Japan, as is Yokohama tyre Company, etc. Not sure about Falken, but I suspect the ones fitted to your car were made in Japan too.
There\'s not any difference between the rubber content or construction of tyres made for the Japanese market, or for the European market. Clearly Japanese don\'t make tyres that are dangerous for their own market. In fact, they make better rubber, too - not available in other countries, such as very soft compound s spec and SR spec tyres for track use.
The difference in grip is not because of what market the tyre was made for but in the age of the tyre.
If a car\'s tyres are very old, the rubber tends to have hardened with heat and age. As a result it will grip much less, especially in wet conditions. On some tyres, the rubber will be so old, it can have cracks between the blocks. This is especially evident in some very low mileage older cars.
On Performance bikes, for example - some people recommend changing rubber every 18 months, as the contact patch is so small and the results of a slide can be very dangerous, of course.
On the cars we supply from Japan, we inspect tyres to make sure they\'re OK for use. If too old and brittle, they get changed.
I think you\'ll find all tyres don\'t have metal braiding on the sidewalls. It\'s only on the area of the contact patch. The sidewalls are reinforced with nylon or a softer cloth material. Never with metal weave.
The likelyhood is that the tyre that has failed on your car has been run flat for some time - in the past, which has caused the sidewall to weaken. As a result - the cloth weave was weakened, as was the rubber. Perhaps there was a puncture, but it was repaired when the tyre should have been discarded.
Alternatively it could have been kerbed so strongly, it weakened the sidewall enough to cause a weak area, which could have caused the blow out - then the tyre would have ripper itself apart when punctured at speed.
If you ever see a bubble on the side of a tyre, this is a dead giveaway of such damage.
Anyway, at least you\'re OK. That\'s what counts, I guess :)
QuoteOriginally posted by iaint
Even the \'patch of diesel\' excuse is just that, an excuse. :D
Try riding a motorbike around Milton Keynes for a while and you might change your mind about that. The bus company there loves to overfill their leaky barges, and it\'s really not funny encountering a patch of roundabout covered in diesel on a 70mph road...
I once Highsided my 650 Dominator at slow speed because of Diesel on the road....on my University Campus.
No fun at all. I was furious!!!:reallymad
Someone had seen a bus spill diesel and were good enough to answer my plea for any witnesses to this, from a noticeboard request.
Got the bus company to pay in full for the damage, which they were quite good about, luckily.
Diesel on roads is lethal, especially on 2 wheels.