Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 08:13:40 AM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 08:13:40 AM
Hi there first post lol and its not a happy one, iv just imported a 1993 rx7 type r from japan and the first thing that happened when i started her was the bloody add coolent buzzer coming on... i`ve read a fair bit on this forum and i reckon the water seal has gone because of 2 reasons:
1 - the add coolent light comes on a fair bit and
2 - the b*****d wont start now lol
Also there a small amount of oil dripping from the middle of the engine close to the front.
Im off today to remove the plugs to check if there wet and give them a clean, hopefully they`ll be dry and black (fingers crossed).
My main question is, how long and easy is it to remove the engine, and to do the rebuild on the engine???
Is there any points i should consider before starting? like will the kit renew everything on the engine? what about the rotot thingymebob lol
Please help me guys lol:wave
1 - the add coolent light comes on a fair bit and
2 - the b*****d wont start now lol
Also there a small amount of oil dripping from the middle of the engine close to the front.
Im off today to remove the plugs to check if there wet and give them a clean, hopefully they`ll be dry and black (fingers crossed).
My main question is, how long and easy is it to remove the engine, and to do the rebuild on the engine???
Is there any points i should consider before starting? like will the kit renew everything on the engine? what about the rotot thingymebob lol
Please help me guys lol:wave
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Brett on April 07, 2005, 08:40:15 AM
Post by: Brett on April 07, 2005, 08:40:15 AM
The most awkward part of doing the rebuild is removing all the ancillaries, and a lot of your cost can go in replacing the rats nest of vacuum pipes, as they are going to be old a brittle.
Once the engine is out, the rebuild is not that excrutiating, providing you have experience of doing engine rebuilds on other cars etc.
Once disassembled you will be able to get a good idea of whats damaged and whats not. I seriously reccommend getting hold of a mazda workshop manual for the car if you are going to do it yourself.
Without it you have no way of knowing what tolerences you can allow on the wear components, let alone the torque required on all the bolts on reassembly of the engine.
:)
Once the engine is out, the rebuild is not that excrutiating, providing you have experience of doing engine rebuilds on other cars etc.
Once disassembled you will be able to get a good idea of whats damaged and whats not. I seriously reccommend getting hold of a mazda workshop manual for the car if you are going to do it yourself.
Without it you have no way of knowing what tolerences you can allow on the wear components, let alone the torque required on all the bolts on reassembly of the engine.
:)
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 08:48:47 AM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 08:48:47 AM
Well i was going to get the kit and the dvd`s from http://rotaryaviation.com i heard they were the best thing to get lol plus the engine rebuild im giving it to a friend who knows a fair bit about them lol.. im just gunna strip the car to get the engine out :D
Have you done a rebuild yourself?
Have you done a rebuild yourself?
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Oedipus Rex on April 07, 2005, 09:08:17 AM
Post by: Oedipus Rex on April 07, 2005, 09:08:17 AM
Sorry if I\'m teaching you how to suck eggs but you sure its oil and not coolant?
if it\'s coming fromnear the front you could have a leak from somewhere around the rad. It\'s pretty common if your car has been sat for a long time. A hose could have perished or a clip could have come off. It would also explain why your buzzer keeps coming on. The sensor is very near the top and you don\'t have to lose much for the buzzer to come on.
The not starting could just be from a simple engine flood.
if it\'s coming fromnear the front you could have a leak from somewhere around the rad. It\'s pretty common if your car has been sat for a long time. A hose could have perished or a clip could have come off. It would also explain why your buzzer keeps coming on. The sensor is very near the top and you don\'t have to lose much for the buzzer to come on.
The not starting could just be from a simple engine flood.
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Martiny on April 07, 2005, 09:29:05 AM
Post by: Martiny on April 07, 2005, 09:29:05 AM
Interloper. Usually, (depending where its failed), if there is an engine water seal failure, this would force your coolant out of the expansion tank. (Thats the white plastic one, in front of the right front wheel.
Put new sparklpugs in, and see if that helps the starting. You will probably want new plugs if you are going to rebuild the engine anyway.
The leak: remove the plastic tray under the engine, then clean everything, then let it dry.
Now start her up and get underneath and watch for where the leak is, (and what it is).
Lets make sure we do a proper diagnosis before you take the engine apart, and committ yourself to a 1,2,or3K engine rebuild. A manual is of course a good idea, except you cant buy one! There is a Mazda one online somewhere (Iluvmyrx7.com?) but also get the rebuild video from rotaryaviation.
Put new sparklpugs in, and see if that helps the starting. You will probably want new plugs if you are going to rebuild the engine anyway.
The leak: remove the plastic tray under the engine, then clean everything, then let it dry.
Now start her up and get underneath and watch for where the leak is, (and what it is).
Lets make sure we do a proper diagnosis before you take the engine apart, and committ yourself to a 1,2,or3K engine rebuild. A manual is of course a good idea, except you cant buy one! There is a Mazda one online somewhere (Iluvmyrx7.com?) but also get the rebuild video from rotaryaviation.
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 11:08:11 AM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 11:08:11 AM
okee dokee guys, will try these first lol, im sure its oil because it`s black and slidy when u rub it we your fingers :rollin its not a great deal really and only seems to do it wwhen the cars facing forwards down a slanted drive, havent seen any under it when its left on the road.
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 11:42:57 AM
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 11:42:57 AM
Could be a leak from the seals between the engine and the engine bolts/sump. Had this with mine before i got it sorted.
Wouldnt cause a problem but would leave a teaspoon of oil under the car after taking her out for a run?
Wouldnt cause a problem but would leave a teaspoon of oil under the car after taking her out for a run?
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Oedipus Rex on April 07, 2005, 11:51:31 AM
Post by: Oedipus Rex on April 07, 2005, 11:51:31 AM
yup I got that one at the moment too. Not really a problem, I just check the dipstick regular and top up if needed
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Brett on April 07, 2005, 12:34:39 PM
Post by: Brett on April 07, 2005, 12:34:39 PM
i had a similar leak when a helpful person overfilled my sump. The gasket was leaking under pressure.
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 01:04:54 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 01:04:54 PM
Well i hope so lol, the oil gauge is more than half way on startup and the dipsticks saying its just over half full too, so its not my biggest worry at the mo but i`ll keep topping it up to c
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Oedipus Rex on April 07, 2005, 03:11:30 PM
Post by: Oedipus Rex on April 07, 2005, 03:11:30 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by interloper393
Well i hope so lol, the oil gauge is more than half way on startup and the dipsticks saying its just over half full too, so its not my biggest worry at the mo but i`ll keep topping it up to c
you sure you\'re not looking at the oil pressure guage?
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 03:33:51 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 03:33:51 PM
is that the one thats standard with the car? its mark "4" half way up? lol im such a noob:wave
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 03:39:23 PM
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 03:39:23 PM
That gauge is a bit of a waste of time anyway so i wouldnt worry.
Forgot to say earlier Welcome to MRC mate. There are some really knowledable guys on here that can help. Plus everyone is totally cool and relaxed.
Im really looking forward to Rotorstock so i can meet most of the people that have helped me in the last 6 months.
Forgot to say earlier Welcome to MRC mate. There are some really knowledable guys on here that can help. Plus everyone is totally cool and relaxed.
Im really looking forward to Rotorstock so i can meet most of the people that have helped me in the last 6 months.
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 03:42:01 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 03:42:01 PM
Wish i could go.. dont even think ma car will make it to the corner shop lol and its only a 100 yards fae ma house :rollin
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Donato on April 07, 2005, 03:43:35 PM
Post by: Donato on April 07, 2005, 03:43:35 PM
Hi mate,
Nice to see another scottish member! Any pics of your car mate?
Cheers
Donato
Nice to see another scottish member! Any pics of your car mate?
Cheers
Donato
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 03:47:15 PM
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 03:47:15 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by interloper393
Wish i could go.. dont even think ma car will make it to the corner shop lol and its only a 100 yards fae ma house :rollin
It could be OK? Dont think the worst until you have got it checked out fully. Where did the car come from?? Did you get any warranty etc?
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 03:47:27 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 03:47:27 PM
I`ll go take some :)
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 03:53:03 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 03:53:03 PM
Car came from japan, the uys being ok about it, says he`ll pay for the rebuild kit, which is good because between me and my m8, and the dvd`s we reckong we can rebuilt it for free lol.. so new car, new engine :D
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 04:02:35 PM
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 04:02:35 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by interloper393
Car came from japan, the uys being ok about it, says he`ll pay for the rebuild kit, which is good because between me and my m8, and the dvd`s we reckong we can rebuilt it for free lol.. so new car, new engine :D
Thats great news.
Got any pics yet, and is the car running a little better now?
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:07:30 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:07:30 PM
lol trying to work ma camera, every photo i take is too big for uploading... havnt started the car since earlyer, the thing is she aint registered yet so i cant run the buggy on the road wink wink :)
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:25:35 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:25:35 PM
Here is ma nice refubised 17" ers lol with 255 - 40 -17 tires back, and 235 - 45 - 17 at the front :)
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 04:26:41 PM
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 04:26:41 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by interloper393
Here is ma nice refubised 17" ers lol with 255 - 40 -17 tires back, and 235 - 45 - 17 at the front :)
Are they Advan\'s?
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:30:12 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:30:12 PM
My engine bay, spotless mite i add lol
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:30:55 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:30:55 PM
Big badboy exhaust which sounds well nice lol
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:31:58 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:31:58 PM
Inside my baby! seat feels wicked, just wish i could drive her... sob sob
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:32:39 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:32:39 PM
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Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:33:26 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:33:26 PM
And finally lol
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Oedipus Rex on April 07, 2005, 04:33:44 PM
Post by: Oedipus Rex on April 07, 2005, 04:33:44 PM
looks lovely mate.
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:35:00 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:35:00 PM
Yeah m8 wheels are Advans, do you like um?
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 04:35:59 PM
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 04:35:59 PM
That is lovely. What is that front end? 99 Spec,
also a mazdaspeed seat which is well nice. Im sure ive seen that steering wheel as well.
also a mazdaspeed seat which is well nice. Im sure ive seen that steering wheel as well.
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:38:16 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:38:16 PM
yeah thinks its a 98/99 spec bumbper, hopefully get the engine sorted then go for a full bodykit and repray in a funky colour, not interested in engine mods, maybe dump valve but thats it, to much to go wrong again if its not done properly..
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 04:40:27 PM
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 04:40:27 PM
Be worth looking at an Apexi ECU that can be mapped to the car if the budget will stretch??
I think the mods you seem to have is on the borderline before you would defo need a new ECU.
I think the mods you seem to have is on the borderline before you would defo need a new ECU.
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:42:21 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:42:21 PM
Is swapping the ecu easy to do? how much do they cost lol might be tempted lol :rollin
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 04:45:40 PM
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 04:45:40 PM
The Apexi and commander will cost between 450 - 500 quid new. Then add about 200 notes for fitting and Mapping.
I think Donato might know someone in scotland that can do this?
on the plus side you get:
better MPG.
smoother ride
more power.
and most importantly it keep things safer in the engine department.
I think Donato might know someone in scotland that can do this?
on the plus side you get:
better MPG.
smoother ride
more power.
and most importantly it keep things safer in the engine department.
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:48:36 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:48:36 PM
Ahh i see lol.. kewl cheers bud, so what mods have you done to yours and what kinda horsepower ya got :)
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Donato on April 07, 2005, 04:52:20 PM
Post by: Donato on April 07, 2005, 04:52:20 PM
Looks good mate, you be interested in the MRC stand at the F&M show if you get it sorted in time?
Cheers
Donato
Cheers
Donato
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 04:53:52 PM
Post by: Big Stu on April 07, 2005, 04:53:52 PM
Mines up for sale HERE (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12865)
Im not sure about power, probably about 300 at the fly.
Im not sure about power, probably about 300 at the fly.
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:57:32 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:57:32 PM
Id love to but there`s better rx7`s out there than mine bud lol.. but all going well i`ll be there.. :)
When and where is it held?
When and where is it held?
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:58:22 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 04:58:22 PM
wanna swap stuwee lol
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Donato on April 07, 2005, 05:00:34 PM
Post by: Donato on April 07, 2005, 05:00:34 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by interloper393
Id love to but there`s better rx7`s out there than mine bud lol.. but all going well i`ll be there.. :)
When and where is it held?
All are welcome mate. See this thread for the details mate.
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13558
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: Donato on April 07, 2005, 05:05:24 PM
Post by: Donato on April 07, 2005, 05:05:24 PM
I think Donato might know someone in scotland that can do this?
I certainly do, give me a shout if you need any help mate.
Cheers
Donato
I certainly do, give me a shout if you need any help mate.
Cheers
Donato
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 05:06:01 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 05:06:01 PM
Could be up for that bud, i`ll try ma best to get a rebuild if needed and hopefully see you there :)
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 05:07:21 PM
Post by: interloper393 on April 07, 2005, 05:07:21 PM
Nice one Donato lol what else do you know, who does a rebuild in Scotland? no one from what i no!! :rollin :rollin
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: scooby_si on April 08, 2005, 07:13:06 AM
Post by: scooby_si on April 08, 2005, 07:13:06 AM
if/when you do get your beast up & running make sure you put duct tape or wotever over the silver bit with a hole in it just infront of the intercooler that be nice cold air escaping 
Otherwise looking good let us know how it goes bud......
Si
Otherwise looking good let us know how it goes bud......
Si
Title: 1993 RX7 rebuild kit info
Post by: interloper393 on April 08, 2005, 07:35:43 AM
Post by: interloper393 on April 08, 2005, 07:35:43 AM
Will do bud, cheers for that :rollin