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Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: Oedipus Rex on March 14, 2005, 12:54:51 PM
Seen some very nice shiny cars on here so I thought I\'d start a thread about how to make your car all lovely and sparkly.

Personally I use Mer or T-Cut. Two coats of either, buff the hell out of it then use something called Demon shine. Which you mix a capful in a bucket of water and using a jug pour it all over the car. Then you dry it off immediately with a chamois.

Works a treat.

please feel free to share your shiny secrets with the rest of us.
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: allstaruk on March 14, 2005, 01:07:33 PM
If you really have the patience cause it takes all bloody day and the polish ain\'t cheep.

1 Wash it with Meguire\'s Gold Class Shampoo
2 Go ovet the whole car with Meguires Stage 1 Paint Cleaner
3 Put atleast 3 coats of Meguires Stage 2 Polish on.
4 A layer of that T-Cut coloures polish
5 2 Coats or Meguires Stage 3 Wax.

To do my whole car to perfection takes about 8 hours.

I know it sounds a bit like a meguires advert but I have used there stuff fot years and it really is good, I have heard that swisol or xymol are better but I can\'t aford there stuff. (zymol concours wax is 145 quid for 8oz)
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Post by: jetpilot on March 14, 2005, 05:25:46 PM
Still dont think Autoglym super resin polish can be beaten, especially on black cars.
I have always found Mer too smeary.
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: toon19974 on March 14, 2005, 06:25:09 PM
all the meguiars range is is amazing, but for faded paintwork autoglym paint renovator does the trick :bandit

//www.meguiars.co.uk
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: Oedipus Rex on March 14, 2005, 11:29:47 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by jetpilot
Still dont think Autoglym super resin polish can be beaten, especially on black cars.
I have always found Mer too smeary.

Thing with Mer is you need to buff the living hell out of it before you get anywhere
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: iiyama on March 15, 2005, 10:14:13 AM
Zymol/swissol. No contest.

Both Autoglym and Mer are polishes and by definition cut the paint every time you use them. I would never use either product knowing what they do to the finish of the car.

Meguiers is a better option then either of the above, but the Zymol/Swissol products are far, far better and go a lot further. The downside is the initial outlay. However their cheapest wax is about £40, which is what I use. So far the tub has lasted me about 3 years as you dont have to use it as often.

Ian
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Post by: M@r]{ on March 15, 2005, 08:46:51 PM
When I had my S2000, the guys in the States and the UK when into this big time!!  

For value and results Meguires Tech Wax seem to be the favourite over and over.  If your not bothered about cost and you dont mind importing some this whole series of treatment was very popular:

http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=Zaino
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: Ricco_04 on March 16, 2005, 01:27:54 PM
I forget what brand it is but if you had way too much money there is a company who send a chap out to your car.  He takes a sample and analyses it with all kinds of equipment that I cant pronounce let alone spell.  They then put together a case of various concoctions, your own stamp etc etc etc.  That’s the best one to use â€" but who would spend over £1000 in one go!!!
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Post by: iiyama on March 16, 2005, 01:31:43 PM
Zymol/Swissol isupply this service. However it is expensive!! :)
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: efiniste on March 16, 2005, 01:53:53 PM
I\'ve imported Zaino for mine and to be honest, wouldn\'t use anything else. It doesn\'t cut the paint like some others do and produces something like a 99% optically perfect finish. Done properly my black FD looks stunning, like a black mirror (best way I can describe it!)
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: Ricco_04 on March 16, 2005, 05:13:08 PM
The cost of wax is largely based upon one ingrediant (again cant remember what it is :rolleyes:  ) which is a plant extract from a particular group of countrys. Turtle wax contains approx 5% and the high end "expensive" ones can contain up to about 60%ish!!

It does also depend what you wash your car with next.  Some soaps and sponges can almost completly remove all your hard work and then you are not building up layers of wax to protect your pride and joy.  Some waxes also claim to reduce the likelyhood of stone chips (cause the wax dries very hard and takes the brunt)
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: Ricco_04 on March 16, 2005, 05:21:50 PM
Rather than be vague...

Just found it on the Zymol website - http://www.zdouk.com/

“Zymol Hand-Crafted waxes have a Carnauba  content of 37 to 61% by volume â€" 5 to 10 times the industry standard.”
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: Archbish on March 16, 2005, 05:23:32 PM
autoglym fan here.

jetwash (inc engine bay), spray engine bay with grease remover, shampoo exterior, rinse, squeegee, chammy, resin polish, metal polish on wheels wheels and exhaust, rubber polish on black bits, window polish, buff paintwork, extra gloss, DONE!
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: scooby_si on March 17, 2005, 06:51:54 PM
swissol fan here, bought some over 3 years ago when i got scooby as part of a group buy, the pot of wax (smallish pot) was like best part of a tonne but i\'ve barely used a third so far using it monthly (OK had a bit of time off while the RX7 was in garage )
The good stuff is worth it IMO.
Ergh did you say T cut at the start everyone say cutting compound & eventually goodbye paint?
Si
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: Pointman on April 01, 2005, 11:57:01 AM
I had never heard of Zymol before and did a search, it seem\'s Demon Tweeks sell both Meguiars and Zymol.
Meguiars products are £7.99 and less, apart from the large tubs of Gold Class Wash & Conditioner and the Gold Class wax which are £14.99 and £12.99.
Zymol is not much dearer though (!!!)
Premium Range
Auto Wash 473ml £8
Cleaner Wax 473ml £14
Lube for Lehm Klay 237ml £21
Lehm Klay 140g £21
Leather Cleaner 236ml £8
Leather Conditioner 236ml £8
Wheel Coat 236ml £12
Wheel Cleaner 650ml £15
Hand Crafted Range (Greater Carnauba Content)
Clear 250ml £21  473ml £35
HD-Cleanse 250ml £21
Glas 200ml £14
Seal 200ml £19
Tyre 236ml £21
Field Glaze 237ml £15
Carbon Wax 226g (37% Carnauba) £42
Titanium Wax 226g (51% Carnauba) £62
Concours Wax 226g (47% Carnauba) £145
(Contains more of the rare white carnauba variety !)
Starter Kits:
Carbon Wax & Leather Treat Kit £99
Titanium Wax & Leather Treat Kit £129
Carbon Wax & Vinyl Treat Kit £99

Hope that is of some use (and Interest to someone)
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: scooby_si on April 01, 2005, 12:37:10 PM
it is worth investign in a good quality wax IMO i spent over £100 on a small pot of the swissol wax back in the scooby days when there was a group buy & well 3+ years later i still have over half a pot & a very shiny car! :p
Si
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: Initial-D on April 01, 2005, 02:23:39 PM
Mines having a re-spray in black soon with the new kit, what would be my best option with regards to polishing etc..? I\'d budget about £150-200 for the waxes, shampoo, sponge and stuff.
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: Initial-D on April 01, 2005, 04:14:52 PM
I was saying to myself how clean and polished your Mondeo looked Si!!:p
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: Pointman on April 01, 2005, 05:01:07 PM
Why don`t you give the Zymol starter kit a try ?
The Titanium Wax kit is £129
Includes shampoo, HD-cleanse,leather treat,Titanium Wax,Wax applicator(s),Pre-Wax Applicators(for HD Cleanse),Microwipes and Towels.

Demon Tweeks order code (DS155T)

I myself am going to try it, along with the wheel cleaner, wheel coat and seal(door,window etc seal cleaner/conditioner)

QuoteOriginally posted by Initial-D
Mines having a re-spray in black soon with the new kit, what would be my best option with regards to polishing etc..? I\'d budget about £150-200 for the waxes, shampoo, sponge and stuff.
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: gavin on April 01, 2005, 05:54:37 PM
must say Zymol is the best if you could afford it my bro uses it on his porsche, took us all day to apply all the differant stuff he got, applying one using the bare hands, smells nice too,
im currently using the miguires tec wax, and washing with the Zymol wash which is excellant,
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: Initial-D on April 01, 2005, 07:50:04 PM
Cheers for the advice pointman that sounds like a good purchase, I\'ll go order some for when I get the car back!
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: blackrx on April 04, 2005, 08:07:20 AM
http://www.nsxsc.com/nsexcitement/waxtest.html (http://www.nsxsc.com/nsexcitement/waxtest.html)
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: Initial-D on April 04, 2005, 08:25:29 PM
So Zaino is the one to go for, where do I get that in the UK? Excellent test thanks for posting it up.
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: memski on April 04, 2005, 09:08:25 PM
https://vault1.secured-url.com/car/products.asp?cat=11

Unfortunately the UK distributor seems to be twice as expensive as on Zaino\'s USA website :(

If I\'m correct $84.70 vs £102.95 over here :confused:
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: efiniste on April 04, 2005, 10:32:28 PM
yep, unfortunately the US site won\'t take UK Paypal either. I get my brother to buy it and send it over to me (he lives over there).
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: MattR on April 09, 2005, 05:08:29 PM
Hi Guys...i am currently awaiting a large range of meguiars to land it...currently stcok sol;d very quickly...let me know if ya want ne prices??!!

Cheers

Matt
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: interloper393 on April 09, 2005, 07:08:40 PM
Ooo i need some of this stuff lol.. anything good for filling small scratches?? someone suggested g6?? iv used it before and found it needs to be applyed with a buffer machine, also it cuts the **** out off your paintwork..
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: MattR on April 09, 2005, 08:18:02 PM
For jobs that t cut wont sort out..i use farecla G3 does a great job...annd isnt too harsh on paint work.... can just apply like norm..
Title: the best waxy / polishy stuff.
Post by: interloper393 on April 09, 2005, 11:35:48 PM
cheers i`ll giv it a go :)