As per title, the car\'s getting a bit twitchy-more steering wheel adjustments.
Original suspension/wheels/ride height.
There\'s no wheel wobble ie trackings ok
Now i\'m getting new shocks/springs soon-Will this sort it or would knackered ARB\'s and/or bushes cause the "twitchy syndrome"??!
Thanks for your help
Pete :)
Bushes will definatly cuase problems if they are worn dude. Get em checked!
Ian
How are the tyres? When they are low on profile, they start pulling more.
Had the same last year. Had 1.5mm profile left, and it pulled left and right because of the road wear tracks (or how is that in proper English?:) ). After just putting new tyres on, same size/brand/type, it was almost all gone again.
René
Iain-Maybe i\'ve reached the Rexy Bush Drivin Limits...Sad Ike & Tina comparison!!
you\'re right, as i\'ve considered a Bush change....prefer Brazilian..!
But seriously, i\'m prob. gonna get them changed with me shocks n springs
Rene-My tyres are OK-no uneven wear-so shouldn\'t be a factor
Thanks
Pete:)
When I first got my FD it was twitchy at speed, I put some low mileage struts on with Tein springs and it sorted it completely. The car is solid as a rock well past 140..... *cough* km/h ;)
Paul:)
Hi Pete,
A 4 wheel laser line check/ adjust helps these cars tremendously but will add that unless you have wacked a curb the car wouldn\'t feel any different to what it has done.
Personally l think the slight amount of wear you get at times on the wishbones would not be discernable by the driver.
I do agree with Wav\'s shock thing though, we have now fitted Tein shocks to 5 cars all with 50/60K on them and have found dead shocks on all the cars, and have also had the drivers report back that they not only have felt more relaxed with there cars but have also had all the rattles n bangs disappear as well.
BTW the flex kit gives a real nice compliant ride.
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13109
Hope this helps.
Just to add my 2p to this...
I\'ve had the uprated Tein Flex kit installed on my FD (by Shy/Clive) and am massively pleased with the ride and handling improvements.
If I recall correctly, when the old shocks came off the car the fronts were okay but the rears were knackered. This is in keeping with the handling prior to fitment - direction changes at modest speed (50-100+) made the car feel very \'loose\', not at all good for accurate road placement and confidence.
The replacement has changed the feel of the car and the amount of feedback I get. I had a large moment on Sunday on the A27, dual carriageway section approaching the M25. I applied a little too much right foot in 3rd going round a gentle curve and the back end stepped out (according to the bloke behind me in his TVR Tuscan it was a huge step) but I was able to react in time to catch it because I had early warning and was already lifting and steeering as I went.
I\'m almost completely certain that I couldn\'t have caught it with the old suspension because there was no real feeling there as the damping was gone.
So, what I\'m getting at in a roundabout way is that it\'s worth getting the suspension checked out even if you go with standard replacements as, like decent tyres, it could save your P&J from becoming scenery. Downside is my confidence is probably higher than my ability now :(
Iain
Hi Iain-the said the following:
"I\'m almost completely certain that I couldn\'t have caught it with the old suspension because there was no real feeling there as the damping was gone."
"real feeling"--i suppose saying my ride feels "woolly" exacts poor feel, hence a slightly insecure sensation.
I think i\'d better get some new shocks!!:D :D
Pete
With the fitting of my new charge cooler kit and extra rad we had to remove and redirect the power steering pipes and as such we drained all the fluid. It was all burnt and after replacing with new fluid it felt like a new car to drive. Might be worth trying a quick steering fluid change before digging deep into your pocket.
I mentioned it to Geff at Reworx and he said it\'s something most people don\'t do but it makes a hell of a difference. The only pain is that there isn\'t a lowest point drain tap so you have to unbolt the front cooling pipe and disconnect it from the rubber pipe on the drivers side and let it all drain out. Re connect and with the help of a mate top up the master as your mate turns the s/wheel from lock to lock. It makes a hell of a noise, as if you have broken something but it\'s just the noise of the air fighting it\'s way out. When the screaming and grinding stop the air is out and you will notice one hell of a difference in its power steering handling.
Regards j.c.
Interesting point about the P/S fluid gets burnt? I spose it must get very hot, been reading this thread with interest,most shocks are ten years old along with fluids, and bushes, I think we\'ve be
been generally worying about the engines/rebuilds and getting
complacent/ unaware about the handling becoming worse.
good thing parts are becoming reasonable (cost) now.
My car seems to \'tramline\' so I think i\'ll get the fluid changed and
get the geom. set up for starters.
SORRY to hijack the thread a bit.
Paul.:wave
I\'ve got to fit a new clutch as the bhp i\'m making is too much for my original clutch. When that is done I\'m having 4 x wheel alinement done. I\'m running Tien adjustable dampers so with that and the 4 x new Dunlop Race R 18\'s I\'ve just had fitted she should stick like sh*t to a blanket. The chap who is doing my alinement races TVR\'s and runs his own custom car business so he knows what he is doing when it comes to setting her up for the Track Day setting and I\'m sure the road setting will be just as good. I\'ll keep you posted. Oh I\'ve also had Geff put the new Diff brace on her when she was down on the rolling road, I\'m waiting for the FEED engine brace to arrive on the 8th March, which i will fit. I\'m taking Geffs advice and not going to put solid mounts engine and diff just those two mounts above.:D
You may as well do the bushings if you\'re doing the rest of the setup - they must wear out a fair bit in a car that corners as hard as the Rex, and you\'ll probably save some labour over doing the two seperately. Seems like half a job to put minty springs on a wobbly chassis!
On a Fairlady (heavier car and rear steer, but even so...) it totally transforms it even on original shocks and springs.
PaulTII - your problem sounds much more like it really is the bushings!
Just as aside my 8 lost all feel this last month - tramlining and lack of feedback. I changed the tyres even though I had tread left and it\'s like a new car (although I think the PZeros are genuinely better than the Bridgestones, as well as being newer). I think the sidewalls were losing strength. (13000 miles - fronts almost as bad as rears, interestingly, must be all that trail braking)