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General => General Technical => Anything Engine/Performance/Tuning related => Topic started by: gja7 on February 03, 2005, 02:19:18 AM

Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: gja7 on February 03, 2005, 02:19:18 AM
I AM JUST ABOUT TO TRY AND ORDER A MASTER REBUILD KIT FOR

MY 1993  RX7 FD3S TO START MY REBUILD  AND WANTED TO      

KNOW THE CHEAPEST PRICE ANYONE HAS BOUGHT THE KIT

FOR ?


ALSO WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BASIC REBUILD

KIT AND THE MASTER REBUILD KIT AS THE MASTER KIT IS DOUBLE

THE PRICE SO WHAT COMES EXTRA WITH IT  ?


ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT . CHEERS  - GRAEME !!!  
                                                                                        :bandit
Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: t2rew on February 03, 2005, 08:22:46 PM
where are you going to get it from. it must tell you what the differece is. if not ask them. the gasket set is about 300 quid on its own so maybe they are leaving that out on the cheap one ?
Title: hmmm....
Post by: mazda bait on February 03, 2005, 08:33:51 PM
when i was looking for kits i think there was one on rotaryaviation.com  which wasn\'t too badly priced.  I know hurley engineering also do one, but as is always the way there reputation proceeds them.....  (Best ask Si for his advice!);)
Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: gja7 on February 03, 2005, 08:51:48 PM
I WAS GOING TO GET IT FROM ROTARY AVATION IN THE USA !  

THE BASIC KIT COMES IN AT $500 DOLLARS

 THE MASTER KIT COST DOUBLE THAT AT $1000

 POSTAGE TO UK IS $70

 IF U WORK IT OUT THAT IS ROUGHLY £320 FOR THE BASIC KIT INC DELIVERY

 THE MASTER KIT WOULD BE £620 DELIVERED

 I DIDNT THINK THAT WAS TOO BAD PRICE WISE BUT JUST WONDERED WHAT U R MEANT TO REPLACE IN THE REBUILD SO I KNOW WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR .
                                                       CHEERS - GRAEME
Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: t2rew on February 03, 2005, 08:59:13 PM
there will be water seals around the housings and the rotors have loads of stuff on them. oil rings, apex seals corner seals. springs.
Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: Adam on February 04, 2005, 08:34:16 PM
I\'m just running in  my engine now after doing the rebuild my self.  I used the rotary aviation master rebuild kit and can\'t recommend it enough.  You get everything you need to do a proper rebuild....all gaskets, seals, shaft bearings, sealants, tips, springs etc etc.  It all depends on what state your housings and plates are in, also what your plans are.  I wanted all mine ported as i went single turbo, but most people would recommend it\'s best to use new housings.  One of my plates was shot too so i took the decision of getting all new plates and housing.  Got mine from pip all ported for about 1800 quid.

I would also recommend the video fron rotary aviation....  it\'s worth its weight in gold!!!

Adam
Title: if my memory serves me correct
Post by: mazda bait on February 04, 2005, 08:37:33 PM
i believe there was talk of someone putting that very video into dvd format???
Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: gja7 on February 04, 2005, 09:45:54 PM
Thanks guys. I think i will order the master kit asap from that Florida Aviation !

Yeah the rebuild video has been put onto dvd now and i ordered it last week so it will be here soon.I also bought one for taking the engine out and preping it for the rebuild for the 13B so that should be very hepful too.
 
 How long did it take for the kit to arrive from the states ?

 What all did u get for the £1800 from Pip. Did he just supply the housing and do the porting for that .Did u tackle the rebuild yourself or did he rebuild it  ?

                                                         Cheers - Graeme     :bandit
Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: 20B_boy on February 04, 2005, 11:32:01 PM
I imagine parts and porting; if you say 250 each for the 5 housings (I know they arent that but its close enough) and 500 for porting thats about your 1800...
Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: Adam on February 05, 2005, 12:11:54 PM
1800 is for brand new rotor housings, front,rear and middle plates, all ported.  I don\'t think pip makes much on the parts but just the porting as i priced up the parts myself and his pices were exactly the same Mazda gave me, so i just let pip sort it all.

I did the rebuild my self, just for the experience.  Well worth doing if you have the time and space.

The kit took a just over a week to get here.  It all depends if they have full stock of everthing.  Rotary aviation are very good, think i spoke to lisa.  Very helpful, and good comunication.....which is rare from the states.

Cheers

Adam
Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: gja7 on February 05, 2005, 12:24:20 PM
Cheers Adam ,
                         Do u recommend that i replace the housing ?

I have never tackled a rebuild b4 so i am a bit apprehensive to try it incase i muck it up.My friend is a mechanic and reckons he could do it but he has never done an Rx7 before so if he charges me by the hour it might become expensive.

 I live up in inverness in Scotland and i havent found anyone up here to even give me advise. They nearest company is over 300 miles away so i am in two minds what to do . I might phone a few of the companies on this forum and get some prices . Can u recommend a few to me.

Again thanks for the help . I will get it rebuild yet (lol). It has been lying untouched for 3 months till i decide the best option.
 
                                                                     Regards - graeme      
                                                                                       :D
Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: Adam on February 05, 2005, 04:49:33 PM
Any of the company\'s above(banners) will do a rebuild, but there is also WGT Developments, pip.  He is also very good.

All depends on the condition of your old housings and what your plans are.  Most people/dealers will recommend using new housings and it might save you a few pennies in the future  if you plan to upgrage.  Your best bet is get the old engine stripped down and see what the damage is.  The video from rotary aviation has an inspection section.  It shows you how to check all the components to see if they are ok, reusable.  With the video you can\'t really go wrong, just take your time.  I have never rebuilt and engine before from scratch but i must say with the help of the video it was easy (ish) :)

Cheers

Adam
Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: Martiny on February 06, 2005, 03:54:27 PM
Hey, GJa7.

I say just go for it and do it yourselsf. I have done it 5 times and I am no mechanic! You just need finesse in quite a few places, but the video will see you right. Its grown up meccano, really.

And to me its way easier than a funny up and down engine, what with springs, levers, chains, timing, and the like!
Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: trotter on December 21, 2010, 07:01:07 AM
Quote from: felipealonso;733436I had my Engine Rebuild Kit bought to a very reliable online auto parts store, best options with big discounts.
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^^mods, can we bin this ramjet?

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Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: steve garbutt on December 21, 2010, 09:03:41 AM
Quote from: trotter;733445
Quote from: felipealonso;733436I had my Engine Rebuild Kit bought to a very reliable online auto parts store, best options with big discounts.
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^^mods, can we bin this ramjet?

He keeps popping up with sly ads for a crappy US trader site

Cheers for that, all sorted.
Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: dudsey on January 04, 2011, 03:02:03 AM
Wow, how did you even find this thread trotter? lol
Title: Cheapest Engine Master Rebuild Kit ???
Post by: trotter on January 04, 2011, 08:43:51 AM
haha, the guy I got launched had resurrected it with a link to some shady US autoparts site, he\'s been doing it loads on here under different usernames so I\'m making it my goal to root him out!!! :P