What is the perfect/ideal air temp into the turbos after intercooler/charge cooler cooling. I am asking for an exact temp if possible, not the colder the better.
The reason is i intend to use my air-con system in conjunction with my charge cooler. !!!!!!!!
Surely you should be aiming for a inlet temp of some where close to the outside ambient air temp. No expert im afraid my friend just trying to help
Scott
P.S. Ive heard more than jus pub talk of a sports car developer doing just what you are suggesting.
The charge cooler kit will be fitted and then another heat exchange unit will be fitted after the water has been cooled by the rad, that water will flow through fins that have air-con gas diverted from the air-con system. Yes air-con will have to be on a temp switch to turn it on at a certain temp prior to the turbo intake temp rising above ideal intake temp. Thats why I\'ve asked the question. I know this system will work and yes I know the race teams are looking at it. I think however, my FD will be the first Street FD to try it.
Zakspeed used freon intercoolers back in the early 80\'s the 1.3 litre capri\' used to make 300 odd hp so its by no means a new idea.
you might want to look at what capacity the aircon has for dissipating heat, you may find it is nowhere near enough to cope with the amount of air an engine will consume
Mike. The idea i herd about involved fabricating a chamber (spose bit like a cooler box) and a super charger and a turbo to feed it. and or a reverse super charger. does this make any sense to you. this is all vague and brief sorry
scott
The air-con system is going to be used to cool the water in the charge cooler system after it has been cooled by it\'s own cooling rad. I did think about feeding the air-con gas directly into the charge cooler internal rad that is ment for water but on advice have shelved that idea as too dangerous, due to the massive temp differences involved. The air-con system to be used is the FD\'s own system for the car.
The gases used in the air con of the car are designed to cool air tho, not water. this is a whole differant kettle of fish. i always look at it as energy. That energy has to go somewhere and you have to have enough of what ever you cool the water with to change energy or transfere it. If not its a loosing battle. Think of the cabin space of a fd. its tiny.
As i said no expert just trying to help
Scott
If you don\'t try you never know. The cost of the exchange unit is not going to be expensive and will be easy to fit. You never know it may be a simple answer to a much talked about problem. I\'ve made myself a target by putting this on the web, but I\'m happy to give it a try. If it works, then you will all follow if not then what have i lost, nothing, as i can still use the exchange unit as another charge cooler and run them together/spare.
Anyway my Question has still not been answered. Any takers.????
I really don\'t think there\'s an ideal... I guess too cold might cause combustion problems but I can\'t see that being a problem until you get to mega power.
I\'m skeptical too - yes a cabin must be 100s of cubic feet and the aircon only takes a couple of minutes to cool it, but it takes 5 minutes to do it, by which time you\'ve put well over 1000 cu ft through a turbo...
And it\'s only cooled it a couple of degrees in that time - that\'ll hardly help at all!
We shall see. The other thing that i had considered was to remove the air-con but keep the air-con rad and run the charge cooler water through that and the c/c rad. So even if this idea doesn\'t work i will try the other. Oh ye of little faith, this is what its all about, not being beaten by a problem and most problems are solved by simple ideas.
Could just skip the lot - weight saving considerable!
I\'ll run on 1/2 a tank and not a full tank then. Problem solved.:) :) :) :) :)