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General => Rotary and General Chit-Chat => Topic started by: clive on November 25, 2018, 10:38:54 AM
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I have had an e-mail in for some advise on this fascinating project.
Interesting he designed the backbone chassis with CAD and built it.
Started out as being a hill climb car, but looks like now the build is coming along its going to be an amazing RX-8 engined road car :bravo_2: .
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Whats the car? Volvo 1800 the saint looking?
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Lotus Elan? Mk2 S2 I think...
Looks really interesting project. Would be fun to race it tho :great:
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Lotus Elan? Mk2 S2 I think...
That's the one :bravo_2:
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Evening all,
Thanks for posting the pics Clive. If anyone has any questions on the build just ping me a line, I'm happy to share my experiences, successes, failures etc.
It's an Elan +2 ...... Lots to do, just making a pattern for a one off fibreglass dashboard ATM..... about to start the fuel tank fabrication soon, wish me luck ......
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Welcome mate, very interesting project. Be nice if you do abuild thread, we get to see it what your doing and you get a permanent history to refer back to...i find it great on mine info ive forgotten piccys etc to jog the memory few years down the line when addressing any issues.
This car gonna see any track days?
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Did have another silly question...lol how are you gonna get down of them ramps?
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Hi there,
Yes the intention was track days after I was refused a national b licence on medical grounds, as I was going to do hill climbs, with a view to use this car in the sports libre class after I got a few years under my belt.
But, with track days you get more time than a 1 minute run up the hill twice a day......
Bit new to all the forum stuff so I'll post some pics when I find my way around the site, the build has advanced a little since the other pics, so keep tuned.
Question while I'm here, I've been speaking to Clive the other week on fuel pumps, filters etc.
I've ordered all the aluminium sheet today to build my tank and Clive had mentioned 8mm tails on the pump, so here goes with a few questions if anyone can help?.....
1. On the outlet and return, with 8mm tails, is that o.d. Or I.d.
2. Will push fit fuel hose suffice for the pressures of fuel injection or should I be using JIC -6 fittings?
3. I want to retain the stock rx8 instrument panel, the stock tank uses 2 X fuel senders, I was intending on buying a universal sender, but the ohms need to match the clocks, looking on the manual, the stock sender is 9 ohms when full and around 322 ohms when empty. I could possibly get a sender in that range, but if I use 1 instead of the 2 in the stock set up, is something likely to get confused?.. I don't really want to add an aftermarket fuel gauge.....
Any help is greatly appreciated...
Oh, and while there's no glass in I use the overhead crane lol it's still light, even with the newly fitted integral roll cage. I gave a pit, but when I'm going to be working on the new wings, I want the car at a decent working height 
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Stock rx8 pressure is 4 bar, Clive wouldve meant 8mm id. Nothing fancy required upto you i just use 8mm id fuel hose with fuel clips ( not jubiless) they fix to the rx8 push fit fuel hose connector at fuel pot and fuel rail.
The rx8 runs a returnless fuel system so unless intending to use a swirl pot not needed.
That said i cant run my westy below 1/4 of a tank else i get fuel cut in the corners so best practice baffle your tank or incorporate a swirl pot within? Ive added a fuel filter a systec 1 within my engine bay the rx8 fuel pot houses a filter inside it that can block over time...it all depends what you decide to run..
I didnt manage to get the fuel system to work on 1 sender..Paul on here has in his 8 converted mx5...worth reading his thread and asking him.
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Track work...cool...comes with a few headaches ive found the hardway with the Westy on slicks...
Oil starvation...oil moves up the fill tube away from the pick up pipe on hard right handers...best to fit a sump baffle or gated sump and a catch tank....i also dumped the omp. Its stilll on car blindly working but it does not inject 2t oil.
This allows me to run 5w40 fully synthethic oil and so far so good.
My car was for racing but i got demoralised being in the top class with a 1300 lol so trackdays it is for me.
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Thanks for the pearls of wisdom booster
I'll see if I can find Pauls mx5 on here
J
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Worth a read of mine too. Ive pretty much documented the whole Westfield rx8 journey since buying it...taking in apart, rewire, crash x2 engine blow ups still chasing the castle combe 1.14 lap.
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:welcome: Jamie, see I did say people would be interested ;)
Keep us posted and as you have already found, people are willing to help with this wonderful project :great:
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Yep, these kind of builds/swaps are always interesting.
Even tho I dont really care for Lotus, hats off to you cause choosing unlikely car for this kind of build 

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Just realized, I actually dont know why I dont like Lotus

Anyhoo, do you know how much that thing is going to weight?
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Just realized, I actually dont know why I dont like Lotus 
Anyhoo, do you know how much that thing is going to weight?
Colin Chapman invented the go fast formula " added lightness"....pretty much a pioneer in aero too when lotus where in F1.
Gotta love a Lotus! Silly boy Jarno!!!lol :13: even though i thought it was a p1800 The saint car ha ha but i didnt have my glasses on...
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I do know what Mr Chapman did. He is true inventor and genious.
But his road cars, for some reason I dont like them, except 7... Yeah, Im a weirdo 
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Lol...if we all liked the same thing life would be boring..
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Btw, my opinion, most impressive thing that Chapman did, was inventing/using mono...(i dont know how to type it)..qoc structure/chassis...
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Hey Re Japi
Lotus didn't have the best reputation for reliability, but Colin Chapman, was a clever man back in the day.
Lots of individuals have slated me for "ruining" a traditional British sport scar.
My take on it is, everything can be improved upon, and following Colin Chapman's mind-set back in the day of pulling stuff out of parts bins and making them work. I'm sure if he was still alive today he too would use a rotary power plant as he was all for lightweight vehicles over huge HP.
I'm aiming for around 700-800 Kgs all in. I still have lots of lightening to do, even though its fibreglass, the doors feature 1960's technology of electric windows and each door weighs as much as a nuclear power station....... its ridiculous!
The reason I choose a Lotus Elan was it was my ex bosses car, I got the complete car for £1000, and to be fair, it was in a sorry state, I bought a non running RX8 for £700. Weirdly, im not sure if its the colour, but the lines and the stance reminded me of the Mazda 110 Cosmo, cogs started whirring and I decided to amalgamate the 2.
The rest they say is history
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A few more pics of randoms
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..................and a view more which brings us up to date roughly
.........dashboard pics to follow along with fuel tank.....
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I can see that your a fabricator ! Air intake good idea to fit 1 of the rx8 air straightners.in your intake. (Sieve mesh circular thingy)..sorts out the airflow so the maf can get a proper reading...without throws lean codes.
Your gonna be quick at 850kg ! My westy is 560kg and accelerates like a cbr600...
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Hey boosted,
Not booster like the other night, damn fat fingers!
If you revert to the pic with the intake, you'll see a shot of a aluminium 90 degree bend.
On either end of that bend there's a silicone coupler with a bellow in it, there's both the sieve mesh thingys installed either end of the 90 bend inside the bellow, I pulled the other mesh out of the air box and tried to keep them as close to the original distance apart as the stock set up.
But really appreciate the heads up :13:
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It's wiring and plumbing that freaks me out, fabricating and CAD is simple, I've built a few cars and motorbikes
Had a red top Vauxhall powered mk1 escort estate featured in classic ford magazine and made the front cover...... But that's not for this site lolll
.......but this is my first rotary, first project with fuel injection........ It's all alien, almost witch craft......like the womb!
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Lol...opposite to me then...love the efi and wiring...carbs get me all confused my mig is good but tig no ..when you get to wiring i can steer you in right direction, send you a drawing to cut the loom down to bare minimum lightweight loom .
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You're Ace!
Clive said you're a good egg too!
Carbs are "analogue" haha.
Well, one good offer deserves another, so like wise, if you need any TIG stuff knocking up I can help, or you need any CAD stuff doing, maybe you need to get some stuff laser cut, I can send you the DXF's and works drawings across.
Right, im off to look at the plumbing on the fuel lines on the RX8 manuals, somebody not to far from here told be theres no fuel return line to the tank, so thats blown my design apart lol
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Cool thanks i have a habit of crashing!!!, the fuel design is simple. The fuel pot hoses the pump in the middle it pulls up loops back into the body that houses a filter and out of that into a fpr at 4 bar...(not 40psi as i think i said earlier got psi and bar round wrong way). It vents into tank and incorporates a syphon that pulls fuel over from the other side of the saddle tank on the 8.
Mine house the rx8 fuelpot into the tank albeit with a longer body to scavenge from the bottom of the tank. So it is returnless but no issue having an engine bay fpr and running a return...think about a swirlpot. Rotaries are thirsty and i have a 25l tank that i pretty much have to refill at 8l else i risk fuel cut in corners...which on a lightweight car is enough to lock the rear wheels up!!!! Scary Mary time
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Ok ill ping a design image across shortly for you to vet it.
I need to get used to these acronyms for car parts too. Theres plenty in the manuals too :-X ::) :( :dontknow:
No shame in crashing! just stay alive !!!
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I see youve still got the airpump on the engine you can junk that too...emmisions stuff for the cat..save some weight. Cap the vacuum end and manifold.
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Ok cool, ill do that....
Makes more room too, the engine bay is tight.
Pics of the tank below.
designed to fit above the diff between the rear wheels and mounted on the roll cage cross bar behind the seats.
Natural taper of the car body allows fuel to drain to the "sump"
Tank capacity is 85 litres, sump capacity is 1.5 litres
Outlet to the in line pump is at the bottom of the sump, return pipe feeds back into the sump through the "drain hole", the thought process was making an in tank swirl pot. The sump is always full of fuel, by gravity from the main tank and the return line from the FPR (get me!!)
At 1.5 litres it probably wont need anymore baffles, I doubt much fuel will escape back out the 25mm "drain hole"
Ive left all the internal baffles in the main tank at this stage but will probably be a huge X baffle from corner to corner with some gates or holes in certain place.
Thoughts?
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Oh yeah, sorry
My pc in the shed is oldddddd, running XP Pro !!!!
And yes, I did use paint to capture the pics...........the shame!
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Yes very nice..like the idea should be fine. 85 litres!!! Kerching to fill up mind!
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Lol
Previous variants were 58 litres and 46 litres.
Decided to make it fill up the area behind the seats,
May have more room for the standard fuel level senders albeit leant over a bit.
Yeah, it's a bit pricey, but looking on the bright side, the tank is low, and it's putting the weight in the middle of the car.
Hoping to fit the pump and filter underneath behind the drivers seat, and the battery on t'other side under the tank.
Enough about me, gonna have a peek at the westy.......
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Youll need a cuppa tea its a big read....some vids...roller coaster of ups n downs learning...
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Do you have a link, or point me to it? Still can't locate it .......
Having a blonde moment .........if I even had hair !
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Cosmo and other rotary car type sub heading.
In there few links broken photobucket early on 2400 posts...lol back to 2014.
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Top tip number 1 put the dishwasher on again and say it's still dirty.
That's effin genius hahaha,
Told my better half, she said "but we don't have a dishwasher" I said "I do, it does the ironing as well"
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Lol! Yeah ive learnt pay in forward now ha ha.
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Boosteds topic
http://mazdarotaryclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=80900.0
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Hey Re Japi
Lotus didn't have the best reputation for reliability, but Colin Chapman, was a clever man back in the day.
Lots of individuals have slated me for "ruining" a traditional British sport scar.
My take on it is, everything can be improved upon, and following Colin Chapman's mind-set back in the day of pulling stuff out of parts bins and making them work. I'm sure if he was still alive today he too would use a rotary power plant as he was all for lightweight vehicles over huge HP.
I'm aiming for around 700-800 Kgs all in. I still have lots of lightening to do, even though its fibreglass, the doors feature 1960's technology of electric windows and each door weighs as much as a nuclear power station....... its ridiculous!
The reason I choose a Lotus Elan was it was my ex bosses car, I got the complete car for £1000, and to be fair, it was in a sorry state, I bought a non running RX8 for £700. Weirdly, im not sure if its the colour, but the lines and the stance reminded me of the Mazda 110 Cosmo, cogs started whirring and I decided to amalgamate the 2.
The rest they say is history
Weeeeellll, does any british car have reputation to be reliable
For me, I love old school stuff. And I do like swaps. But I dont like if some rapes rare car. Howerer, I dont think Elan is that rare and iconic, so I think you are good to go 
Amazing fabrication stuff! Good job.
Hopefully some day I can see her finished...
With that, chassis and engine, that weight and weight distribution, that car is going to be awesome 
As for carb stuff, I dont know nothing about turbos, ecus and that electrical stuff. And I started to do rebuild with all those stuff, so I think Im in trouble 
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Thanks for the link Japi
....and the kind words, I just wing it, I think about it a few times, think what the knock on effect is coz any decision is bound to change 4 or 5 other variables. I don't like going wrong and doing stuff all over again. I like to do my homework, and this place is a font of knowledge!
I started the build on Boxing Day last year, I think the build will see another couple of Boxing Days yet, finances permitting.
Boosted! saw your vids on "the tube of you" pretty impressive stuff!
As for your quote of "I crash a lot".....well youre not hanging about, you blast past everything in sight, you give everyone a friendly wave of thanks, your helmet is bobbing about like a nodding dog, so you must be getting some "G's" on the bends.
I just waiting a phone call from upstairs at work to see why Im browsing 161 pages of a westfield build on my internet history LOL!
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I think Im more impressed that you managed to shoe horn that engine into a westy!
For a small engine, its still tall with all the air intake and oil filler neck.
Ive had to make a few incisions in my stock bonnet to get it to close, more fibreglassing ahead!
Thankfully my sump is 5mm up from any chassis rails. I set the suspension pick up points on the chassis so I can run a 5" ride height on the underside of the chassis to the floor without all the arms pointing at stupid angles and upsetting the handling. If possible I want this car road legal so need to consider speed humps and pot holes down my road.
That's a 1" drop from the standard lotus, so everything moves up inside the car and the roof is only 47" off the floor.... GT47 ??? nah
Bit of a squeeze for a tubby like me hahaha
Im planning on running a full front to back underfloor diffuser to try and get a bit more suck down at speeds, but that will be trial and error once its running.
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Cheers mate...its fun! Replaces motorbikes for me.
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And you cant lose your license !
I went to Merlin Motorsport for some roll cage tube earlier this year, there was an owners day or track day going on.
Police with zapper guns everywhere on the country lanes surrounding Castle Combe trying to pick off individuals who still have adrenaline from the day
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Hey Boosted
You mentioned losing the air pump which is fine, I had relocated it, and modified pieces on the valve for more clearance on the headers.
That's not an issue I bought a stainless exhaust manifold flange from Clive earlier this year and can blank the hole up.
Looking through the manuals, I've noticed ancillary parts like on the pics below, charcoal canisters and some EVAP doo dahs that if I remember correctly sat under the boot floor high up above the diff.
Can this be junked as well?
Ive ruled everything in at this stage so I can rule it out, like my Decat pipe, I can run the standard Cat in the engine bay (pic attached) between the engine and bulkhead, it bolts to the bellhousing and thought just in case Mr. MOT inspector wanted it, its 7 bolts to swap it out.
If you can think of other stuff I can junk, just shout ..........
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Yeah easy sport really picking off cars leaving shows....but with youtube and this craze of leaving shows doing burnouts and drifts that everybody films and sticks on youtube im not surprised...
Problem is locals quite rightly complain and thsts another circuit shutdown...!!!
Defo go the road legal route excellent for shaking down before a trackday...mines got a daytime mot..its a pig on road and very worried about the sump hitting mind.
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All the canister stuff can go. Just remember to cap any vac lines on the plastic intake manifold.
Mot wise...Elan is precat 92 so im 99% sure wont be needed. All the new regs ar 2006 onwards.
I have no cat as car is a Q plate! Emmisions exempt booyar! I also got it sucessfully registered as a 1300cc so cheaper tax. 3 attempt with dvla mind.
Id considered wrapping the exhaust crossover pipe...its gonna get very very hot...ive burnt my leg several times on mine!
I think with a cat in that place you could probably melt the intake....serious heat and noise is rotary!
Mine tests static noise test between 92 and 94dB with a 9" repackable silencer from Torque Techniques in Salisbury...its not got any louder...he said quote" argghh Rotary i know what cloth to use from my Janspeed days" ..silencers been great.
No cat equals flames!!!!
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Well Im hoping the Elan is tax free anyway lol ! The Mk1 escort and 1947 Chevy Truck were and they had engine swaps.
Im not fussed about the loops holes of the system, if I get stung, Ill have a track day weapon, just trailer it everywhere.
Whats your view on the decat pipe? (pic further up the post) I have no room anywhere else for an exhaust without chopping my legs off, the front wheel axle line on your westy is a bit further forward than my set up so your headers come straight out the side and I cant move my engine back any further.
I did plan on ceramic coating the hole engine bay with that sticky backed stuff, wrapping the exhaust although I think it looks hideous and having serious vents in the bonnet to let the air out.
Was trying to get clever with bonnet design and drawing radiator air out the front of the bonnet and another inlet and outlet to allow incoming air to draw the hot air of the exhaust out. Bit like that vent you have behind your air filter on the westy.
Ive seen plenty of videos on the web of glowing red exhausts on 8's and 7's so I thought with the location of the cat or the decat pipe its like a windscreen de-icer for the winter lol.
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the decat looks fine to me it wont get anywhere near as hot as a cat...the cat it that position does concern me i think you'd have a fire. :angryfire: The radiant heat from the cat is immense.
The specialist coating zircotec would be awesome but doing the manifold and decat pipe would be alot of dosh i think but would be epic in controlling the heat. I know the wrap is unsightly but it does work. I think braided fuel hose in the engine compartment would be safe choice.
Youve got to work with what room youve got and the manifold is ace, nice flowing bends and big bore so should be fine, just the heat to deal with.
where the steering column on your car? I have to remove mine pulling/fitting engine? as inlet and manifold over under it.
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Im in the same boat......
2 headers loop under the column, 1 loops over it.
No decent pics of it yet.
Ive got pie cut exhaust headers all the way up to the collector, some parts are only tacked and there are only tacks on the manifold flange.
Cant finish it till the engine comes out.
Back to the column......that will be heat shielded too,
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Jon had good point there, exhaust is super hot! Then, N/A rotarys are really really sentive about headers. Can compare 2stroke tuning, you can lose or gain lots of power with crappy exhaust...
Also, you need to figure out how to get maximum air flow to radiator and oil cooler(s). Rotarys are really sensitive about those. Water cools about 70% from engine massive heat, and oil cools rest. Howerer, in rotary oil needs to be really good and in good temp...
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Somebody on rx8club said my exhaust manifold was rubbish! Dont know enough about exhaust tuning to disagree but if my straight out headers 1 bend each into a 3 inch straight through silencer is worse than the stock log manifold id be very surprised...
There was talk of unequal length is best to accomodate the exhaust pulses but at 5000 to 9000 rpms thats 1 hell of lot of pulses and unequal or not there gonna collide at the collector unless your a maths genuis ...my take would be you got to work with what space youve got and try and make it as free flowing as possible, which i believe mine does. The stock rx8 manifold is a brick wall for gas flow but Mazda had to work with the space they had.
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That's an interesting point.
I've had opposite feedback about the headers on the RX8 because of the side port and its not as sensitive as the RX7 with peripheral ports.
I've designed and built a few expansion chambers for 2 stroke bikes, and yes I take on board your point.
Look at the standard RX8 manifold, its rubbish, the front port exhaust gas has to travel much further as a percentage compared to the rear port before it gets to the cat.
I emailed Racing beat in America, and they said they had run several different options on header length and when dyno'd made little difference because of the side port and you don't get the same benefit from the "pulse"
So from experiences, I've made the exhaust headers long enough to make them work practically and a lot of people in the 4 stroke world like "equal length headers" but some are as much as 10" difference in length. I've managed to keep all 3 headers with 100mm of one another just to balance things out as near as I could.
And yes I've heard that too about the oil coolers. I've stuck with the stock ones as Im only going for a Bridgeport and an Adaptronic ECU in terms of tuning, so im happy around the 280 Bhp mark if possible.
The bumper will be custom made in fibreglass too, and will probably resemble a fish with a gaping mouth LOL. I don't have any constraints in terms of air flow into the radiators, but more about room getting the air out, which is equally important.
I do appreciate the feedback though, its good to share stuff as it leads to good ideas. :13:
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I think ive just echoed Jon's post there LOL
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Just read back on my post, and it sounds REALLY condescending reading it back.
Apologies if its rubbed anyone the wrong way.......... tone and context is difficult to express in text!!
Was just trying to be informative :-[
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Did not come come across that way to me so dont worry.
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Yeah, and I dont understand anything anyways

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As for headers, I dont know much about renesis headers. But yes, exhaust ports are very restricting and narrow. So I would imagine that good flowing header is much easier to build than stock one.
Howerer, theres much tests and tips how rotary headers for Peripheral exhaust should be made. One key tip is that first you go with straight pipe for 5cm and only after that can first curve begin. Also, there is few best choise of header leghts. But what I have found out, many will build too restrictin collector...
Im sure that Hayward knows best lengts for Renny headers. But I think aftermarket like RBs are really good too
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Yeah Carl started explaining it to me once i nodded approvingly and i think he thought i understood but it was abit lost on me...lol
Then I had a conversation with Clive about exhaust gas scavenging again i got the jist but yeah but no but...lol.
Just get in and floor it....if it feels fast happy days.
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Maybe Clive could impart some of his knowledge on here :))
I too never claimed to be an expert, but if a theory sounds logical I'll go with that.
Im with you Jon ! just floor it
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I would say that you already have long enough primary pipes for good scavenging anyway. From memory Mazda found that really long primary before being collected made better top end, however to keep the engine tractable what you have is great.
Beautiful pipe craft but please lose the cat, but if you really want one in the system a smaller outside diameter Hi-Flow cat could be used to get the pipework away from the inlet.
As you would know super heating the inlet mixture is never good as you always need the opposite, i.e. a cold dense mixture. Although expensive, Zicotech plasma spray coating will solve this for the manifold plus keep the engine bay cool.
Amazing stuff, even on the race cars turbo straight after a race you could put your hand virtually on the hot side of the turbo!
Hope this helps
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Many thanks Clive
Time to put my kidney on eBay 


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I think that exhaust pulses are really important in rotarys, as in 2 strokes. But for Renesis, you have to be math geniuos to figure out I quess. I havent seen any desent Renny DIY header tips. Well, just wing it, itl work :great:
As Jon said, but yeah but no but :13:
Btw, just realized that I didnt look Westys headers when I visited... ::)
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Dashboard update !
Thought id ping some pics of the dash.
Retaining the stock instrument panel, but its being located in the centre like Minis. The bulkhead / dash on the Lotus in relation to the windscreen is very different from the RX8, hence I could fit the CAT behind the engine.......
....anyhoo, bored of exhausts for a while, we've done that to death.
I've made a "buck" or "pattern" from plywood, polystyrene, filler, wattle n daub, chicken wire, mud, dung, pig iron and anything else that I had lay around....
Next is to lay some fibreglass over it to make a mould, then ill be cast my own dash and hope that the clocks and glove box still fits.
Ignore the finish of the grey primer, its "brushed" trowelled on its some cystic primer stuff that you mix with catalyst to harden it. its all been blocked down now but don't have any pics of that.
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Jesus,
Either my eyesight has improved dramatically or those pics are far too big!
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OOOOoooooooo oh yeah I forgot..... Jon?
The LCD strip that shows time, outside temp etc that was housed above the stereo.....
Do I need to retain that for showing any error codes or diagnostic reasons.
I can house it in the centre console if need be.
Thanks in advance....
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Nope not needed think its called the hvac panel.
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OK cool,
I must have misread something on the manuals where error codes appear.
Just so were on the same page and talking about the same component.........
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Yep thats the 1 i was thinking off, does not display any engines codes...Hvac panel so fan speeds ac on/off temps etc...it can go in bin.
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Ace!
Even lighter again ! Every bit helps
Uncle Colin would be so proud lol
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That dash looks awesome! But seems that you made a little oops, steering is in wrong side


Btw, is axel widht and lenght same as in stock (rx-8) car or have you changed it?
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Just caught up over the last day or twos posts :dontknow:. You guys are something else and fabrication skills are par excellence. :notworthy: Many years ago swapped many an engine in a variety of Fords but always a simple fit using their different engines and gearboxes with only engine mounts to worry about. Keep up the good work. :sign0098:
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Thanks Jarno!
When the steering wheel is on the right side, its on the RIGHT side lol !
My axle width is stock RX8 front and back, a little wider on the back than the Lotus and a lot wider than Lotus on the front.
I need to make 4 new wings / arches to house the wheels.
Im going to run 17 x 7 steel wheels off a Hyundai Santa Fe (I think) which I purchased from some discount wheel website at £80 each. ( Im not sure if Im allowed to mention other companies on here, don't want Clive telling the newbie off lol)
They have the same offset, PCD and centre bore as the 17 x7 Alloys fitted to some RX8's. I don't know if some models had smaller brakes, but because I bought steel wheels, I have loads of clearance for the 231 bhp brakes and calipers.
Plus they are more in keeping with the original style of the car.
Ive altered the wheelbase front to back.
Because of the much larger wheels Ive increased the wheel base by 50mm over stock Lotus, so I didn't need to cut up the inner arches where my feet and pedals would be.
That said, even with the increase in wheel base, its still 100mm shorter than a stock RX8. So should be more responsive on turning into bends.
The pic below shows a CAD image of the original lotus chassis which I needed as a datum before I modelled up the new one, I needed to make sure the body would fit on the new chassis with minimal cutting to the shell.
The green wheels on the image are the original lotus ones in the correct position and the grey ones are the 18 x 8 from the RX8.
From that I can move all the suspension pick up points further up into the chassis as the centre of the wheel is further from the floor on the new wheels, and I was also able to lower the car without upsetting the suspension geometry.
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Thanks rote8
Yes, I still have a passion for classic fords and yeah, identical bellhousing patterns does make engine and gearbox swaps easier.
I'll hopefully have another Anglia 105e one day, maybe even rotary powered.
But when Ive finished the Elan, I have another 2 motorbikes and a Morgan 3 wheeler replica to build........
I don't do TV of an evening and after 2 years my girlfriend has accepted the fact she is a shed widow lol
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Hey Jarno,
heres the stock Lotus chassis.......
Easier to start from scratch with a new backbone chassis than trying to graft RX8 stuff on the Lotus chassis.
Handy for taking dimensions from it though :great:
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Thanks Jarno!
When the steering wheel is on the right side, its on the RIGHT side lol ! .
Thats what Jon keeps telling me but Im pretty sure that he is wrong 
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Hey Jarno,
heres the stock Lotus chassis.......
Easier to start from scratch with a new backbone chassis than trying to graft RX8 stuff on the Lotus chassis.
Handy for taking dimensions from it though :great:
I couldnt agree more. Theres no reason to use that old tired chassis when you can do/use new and better one
And with RX-8s chassis and suspension setup, that thing is going to be fast 
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Jesus,
Either my eyesight has improved dramatically or those pics are far too big!
Sorted that for you Jamie :13:
The forum doesn't resize pics, so anything wider than 1024 pixels is usually a problem.
I'm been following this thread for some time with great interest. A really fascinating project, and I'm in total awe at your range of fabrication skills :icon_thumleft:
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Thanks for the resize Casey and the nod of approval.
Jeeez I didnt realise it drums so much interest.
Im sure I'll cock something up at some point, and Ill have to lean on some fine people on here to get me out a pickle.
I also wish I had the balls to do this sort of thing for a living, but everyone says theres no money unless your name is Richard Rawlings, Boyd Coddington, or Dave Kindig.
So Ill settle for going semi retired and have this as a working hobby.............I probably wouldnt enjoy it so much.
Im also relying on Jon to help me get the track bug, Ive never done a track day, and Ill be first to admit I enjoy building more than driving, esp on the roads anyway.
Y'all cool !! :13: :13:
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Thats what Jon keeps telling me but Im pretty sure that he is wrong 
Jarno, we we agreed with you all 3 of us would be wrong lol
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Ah my quote copy doo dah didnt work..............
There ya go first cock up lol
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Btw, Jon is actually quite good driver. Made me feel woozy at Silverstone.
(Jon, dont say anything!
) I absolutely hate beeing passenger, and my inner ear problem makes feel like crap sometimes. But anyways, I was able to joy few laps with onboard his FD. Nice 
I really like swaps. Especially weird ones. Its not easy way to swap modern cars stuff to old, because with new technology, there comes new cars problems...
I my self might have cocked up with my project. Quest for power is not easy when one is only good at braking stuff, but knows nothing about turbos and ecus
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Isnt that all part of the learning process?
If it was easy, it wouldn't be rewarding when you've achieved something.
Like this morning, I come into work at stupid oclock to start bending the aluminium sheet for my tank.
Things are a couple of degrees out because of variance of aluminium specs...... sometimes you can have the best plans in the world, but then you have to beat it into submission LOL
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Well, thats true. But I dont be learning by blowing up motors under full boost
luckily there is few good ecu tuners near me...
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Fuel Tank update!
Tacked the basic shape today and brought it home for trial fit
By Christ! it only fits! more luck than judgment, and room for the harnesses to strap on the rear of the cage.
Lots of welding this weekend.
Anyone recommend the best way to mount it???
Strap it down with metal bands, or weld L brackets to the outside and bolt it solidly to the cage??
Oh and any recommendations for a small battery that will power all the electrics including lights with decent cranking Amps.
Im going to house it under the tank on passenger side
Thanks in advance for any input :13:
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Cool build!
Did you find the info you needed on the fuel sender?
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Thanks Paul,
If I'm honest I forgot to look,
The little bracket at the bottom of the rank is to house the 2 stock senders.
I've cut 2 squares out the bottom of the stock plastic tank and bolt them to the Ali bracket, the stock senders will click into place.
The full level position on the stock tank is higher than my tank so I've canted them over a little bit,
I'll do a bit of wiring wizardry, well good for me so both sets of wires join the same block connector ;)
The more things I can keep stock the more chance I got to make it work hahaha
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How did you tackle yours?
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Have a look on page 106/316 on my thread. Basically joined the fuel sender and sub sender wires together at the clocks. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/41135b2b32b064c920c59c167aeacbdf.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/7719f154f72bddb112d47fec2ee5b716.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/214554086aca74ea0df2c09bf6ac7e44.jpg)
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Ah, makes sense, I'll still take a peek
Thank you!
Glad there's so many helpful people on here
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Ah, makes sense, I'll still take a peek
Thank you!
Glad there's so many helpful people on here
I've probably been through all of the wiring issues you will encounter so feel free to ask!
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I'm about as good at wiring as I am at platting turds.
I can do the physical side of it like making looms, push fit block connectors etc.
I just can't get my head around the theory.
So I've not go that far but here's a quick run down
Abs sensors removed because I'm running bias pedal box,
No air con,
No airbags,
No alarm, no central locking
No stereo
Adaptronic ecu from Clive when I get it.
Stock accelerator fly by wire
Aftermarket fuel pump
Then there's all the other stuff from lotus that I need to graft into a rx8 loom
Lotus heater control,
Lotus wiper motor, which is used to 2 speeds and the rx8 stalk gas more functions along with squirters.
The fact it's a fibreglass body so no so easy to find an earth like screwing a wire terminal into the body
The list is endless .......
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It took me a while. Never had touched wiring to that depth in my life. Never could solder cable and couldn't use a multi meter properly. It comes with practise.
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Just a thought if you're struggling making the rx8 fuel pump fit... Mx5 mk3 is the same pump and same level sensor. The actual housing may be smaller. Also the rx8/mx5 fuel pump is the same as evo x and a number of other cars.
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Ok more tank stuff.
Bit rusty on the old ali welding..........that's such a contradiction !! lollllll
Its staying now.
So its all welded up, just the outlet and the return line fittings to weld in.
No its not a fat aerial, lol, I welded in the filler pipe extra long so I can trim it to length, but capped it off and put a tyre shreader valve in the end so I can pressure test it :)
....... bet it leaks hahahaha
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Oh pants.......Casey is gonna hate me !
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Thats very nice..
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Spot on
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Oh pants.......Casey is gonna hate me !
??? ??? You really must learn how to post pics with a max pixel width of 1024 ;)
Sorted :)
BTW, I'm certain the welds are much better than I could do. Never had the time to learn to weld :(
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this is a nice build some lovey welding ;)
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Sorry casey, I took the pics on my phone and emailed them to myself not full size,
I did click properties to check but it didn't mention pixel width
Since you resized the last ones I used a program to resize them but I assumed it would be fine....... Hmmmmm
Bugger !!! :(
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this is a nice build some lovey welding ;)
Thanks Viking :icon_thumleft:
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Evening Jon,
Just wondered if you were running the stock accelerator pedal with fly by wire in your westy?
I'm eyeing up bias pedal boxes with a view to removing the accelerator pedal as it cable operated.
Downside is they are floor mounted and the accelerator is top hung.........
Cheers
J
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I run tilton pedal box. Clutch and brake.floor mounted with rx8 throttle pedal fly by wire.
Your gonna need to keep the fly by wire rx8 throttle pedal.
I dont have an issue with the 2. Careful positioning of the pedals and i fitted a heel plate..ill get a piccy later.
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http://www.obpltd.com/Pedal-Boxes/Pro-Race-V2/Floor-Mounted-Cockpit-Fit/2-Pedal-Unit-CF/2-Pedal-Unit-CF-Hydrualic-Clutch/Floor-Mounted-2-Pedal-Cockpit-Fit-Hydraulic-Clutch-Pedal-Box-OBP0167PRC
I was looking at the above.
I've not heard of obp before, but they get a lot of praise........
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Heres mine, ill dig reciept out as that obp seems quite expensive....
Looking about they seem tobe doing them with flyby wire now too.
Looks like my go pedal pedal offset in piccy. Its not. The ally chequer plate is a little heel bridge as size 8 feet i could get a good pivot/pedal feel...epic now.
Servoless wilwoods dynalites with mintex 1157s awesome brakes...pads dont wear either been in 4 years lol dont seem to wear out.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181212/4a5778a4d1aa0df31e00be93c0cde096.jpg)
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Nice one!
I found obp to be cheaper tbh, oh and the fly by wire pedal boxes are ridiculously priced,
I'll settle for the ergonomics of floor mounted brakes and top hung accelerator like you have considering it all works.
I did consider converting the stock accelerator pedal in to a shortened lever operated by a Bowden cable with a traditional accelerator pedal, but seemed like making work for the sake of it.
Thanks Jon
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How are your brake lights activated? In line pressure operated switch?
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Tilton 600 series..floor or overhung mount. 2 pedal £280 from Merlin.
I use the rx8 clutch and brake switch...2 ally tabs on top of pedals.
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Switches behind.
Clutch switch alters idle in neutral. Id set a 1200 rpm idle brings the oil press up.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181213/eddc4b24a4d9ddb91098223305cd052e.jpg)
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Thanks for the heads up Jon.
I can't seem to find tilton boxes, with cockpit mounted master cylinders, I need them pointed towards me because my roll cage will get in the way,
That way I can put my heel board over them, and as the father in law wants to have a play on the track too I'm making the pedal box adjustable coz he has diddy legs lol.
I think the obp are about 380 something with the bias adjustable cable, the cylinders and the reservoirs...... The link I sent you was a package with the braided lines, but I'll make my own coz I don't know where I'm mounting the reservoirs yet, I can't believe 3 braided lines are 140 quid !!
Anyhow, I pressure tested the tank tonight, 5 leaks......
One pin hole on the undeside.....got sloppy, after 4.5 metres of weld I can deal with 1 pin hole given my limited experience...
3 pin holes around the filler neck, ouch, I'm putting it down to different grades of aluminium, but either or, I've cured them .....
I have a major one around the white plastic fuel pot top..... I noticed on your you tube vid you used some black "jollop" around it.
I've got a 5mm thick flanges welded to the underside of the tank, a homemade viton gasket, the white plastic piece then another 5mm Ali ring clamping it all together,
I think it's coming through the bolt holes, I used 10 bolts........I just wondered what you used to seal your tank? I roof some roof and gutter sealant tonight because it didn't say you can't use it with petrol lol
Didn't know whether you used a polyurethane sealant or something ..................
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I used a few materials and the ptfe 1 i made has been onit 3 years no leak. Ill link tilton pedals..demon tweeks.
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The black sealant was PTFE?
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Must be looking at old photo..tried hylomar nope. Original rubber seal dried up and cracked..made 1 out of ptfe 1mm thick white sheet i procured from work. Made a gasket a ring with the stud holes stamped out.
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Evening all,
Got the tank in place, pressure tested, slight change of plans for the fuel filler neck because some dozy twonk welded a roll cage in the way and didn't check the location.......
Never claimed to be perfect lol.....
Anyway, I'm struggling to find a suitable location for the filler cap, tried mounting it in the boot area, like the mk1 escort rally cars, but can't get enough height without having the pipe horizontal ....hmmmmmmm
The original location for the filler cap is a no go for the same reason....., the original tank had the fuel entry half way up the tank so I envisage the filling processs long and laborious....
I can cut a new hole in the car no problem, but before I do.....
Can the filler cap be positioned inside the cabin, next to the drivers seat????
Are any production cars from back in the day with a similar set up?
Are there any restrictions on this from a track day perspective / safety requirements?
I know it may look odd opening the drivers Dood on the petrol forecourt....
The cap is non vented and I'm running a separate vent pipe outside the car......
Appreciate any guidance, even if it just calling me a **** for putting the roll cage in the way
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Meant to be drivers door........I know the gin is flowing but I'm not that far gone, it's a school night
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I think you gotta have to move it so can access from rear...youll dribble fuel all over your seat...need good access for a funnel when using jerry cans etc.
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Fair point,
I can move the filler cap to the outside near the c pillar area ,
I may need to look at a flush aircraft style filler cap....... Just won't be in keeping with the aesthetics of the period look from the outside
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Cant it be on tank inside car just access by opening boot?
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Tried 3 different style brackets now, the boot is really low and close to the top of the tank, it leaves the filler neck and rubber connecting pipe almost horizontal that I'm concerned the fuel will run backwards
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Oh yeah
It's difficult to reach the tank from the boot
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Extend ally tube up with screw on filler at end level with tailgate?
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Hey Jon, I hear what you're saying..........
I wish it was that simple, or maybe im over complicating things......
Anyway its been playing on my mind all night, I got up at stupid o'clock to take pics to show you what im up against.
A - possible new locations, shown, I can enlarge the existing aerial hole or fill it up and cut a new one. I prefer the higher position though.
B - See the entry point for fuel, I've capped off the previous location - but more importantly whatever I do, Im going to need to get the tank in and out at certain points.
C -Cant use the existing filler cap location, because of my plans for the new wings.
D - Shows the gap between the rollcage rear strut brace and the underside of the boot rain gutter
E - Flexi Pipe pointing to the drivers side which could be fed by previous 2 location suggestions, if it was longer..........
F - Prefer the look of the new cap, and Im not opposed to the location,
G - Plenty of room, and a decent "fall" for the fuel into the tank.
H - Was thinking here ???? As an alternative, and clean up the outside appearance rather than filler caps on show.
J- Yes I missed "I" ..... anyway, a method of electrical tape, it may work, stronger than my welds haha, but going off your suggestion Jon.
..........need another post!
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I'll try adding the pics this time ....
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I need more coffee !!!
Anyhoo, last couple..
K - I can extend the pipe, but ergonomically it feels weird reaching in, putting the forecourt nozzle and 3 metres of pipe in the boot lol, and ....... it sits too horizontally, and as you can see I cant go up further without making everything else worse...
L - tried the same idea with the flexi pipe, but because the boot slopes down the further back, the lower it needs to be, then the fuel ends up in the boot.
I could pop the filler cap out the top of the boot like a blower on the bonnet of a hot rod and make a feature of it.......
What would you do Jon, please don't say buy a different car hahaha
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This is a perfect example of rushing something.
With hindsight, what I should have done was make the tank and leave all the holes out of it.
Mock it up in the car, then plan properly where everything should route.
I went the other way because I didn't want to have to cut new holes in a sealed tank and have dust a swarf floating about inside.
Oh well, it was my first fuel tank, lessons learned, everyday is an education as they say .
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I just got up from nights ill look in abit..need Coffffeeee! But i see the issue now...what you using for a back window? Glass or plexi ?
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Ouch nights ! :(
Standard glass, but I know where you're going lol
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lol yeah if plexi glass. straight up and cut hole in back window. Picture tells a thousand words! yes i see the problem...goona digest the photos abit more as cant see an obvious solution.
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Ive got the same filler neck, the rubber seal perishes or falls out, i wrapped the filler thread with PTFE tape now and no more leaks or fuel smells.
back to tank...um i think youve gotta use existing filler hole and change the orientation of the tank inlet so it works so yep tank has to come out.
I think ive had my fuel pot out 50 to 60 times in early days getting it right so sometimes is just trial and error. :dontknow:
i ve got a spare filler neck minus cap if any help to you i had to buy another as lost the cap at a filling station when i forgot to put on in my excitement.
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Due to how I need to make the bucks /patterns for the new wings ( I wont bore you with the details ) the existing filler hole is not an option, however I could open up the aerial hole and the inlet points in the right direction, the aerial hole wont be used for an aerial, and its further inboard.
But I still have a problem with height if Im not careful due to the curvature of the car......
..... I hate it! wish I bought a van ! lol
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Well,
I have a solution.
Ive put some detailed pics up of the process below, just in case someone takes any inspiration from it and wants to create something similar, not just for a filler cap, but a recessed section in general.
So, new location, old filler cap hole filled up.
J
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Part 1
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Part 2
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Last few.......
Gel coat......... hmmmm its a new one for me, hides a multitude of sins lol
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Excellent fabrication skills yet again :sign0098:. Bet it only took a couple of minutes NOT :violent1: :)).
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That looks spot on, well done
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Excellent fabrication skills yet again :sign0098:. Bet it only took a couple of minutes NOT :violent1: :)).
A day and a half ......
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Yep spot on.
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some loverly fab skills 8) and very interesting build any thought on the top coat colour :great:
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some loverly fab skills 8) and very interesting build any thought on the top coat colour :great:
Thanks for the kind words folks........ Seriously tho, I just wing it, there's no science behind it..... Apart from the equation on the board to make a cardboard template lol.
Mr. Exiled Viking.... That ole bean is the million dollar question.
Besides the fact the car is heavily modified, and will have new wings, big wheels, new bumper, under boot diffuser, in my head it will look period as much as it can, you should still be able to look at it and tell what it is........ An Elan on steroids. One of the reasons I went for 7x17 steel wheels.
Colour is am important part, but I haven't decided yet. I'm open to suggestions from everyone who wants to chip in. It needs to look like its from the era so no pearls, or funky metallics.
So ideas so far......
I really like ermine white like it is, like the mk1 and mk2 lotus cortinas and escort twin cam back in the day.
But with a satin black bonnet and satin black bumpers and wheels and lose all the bright work. (Chrome goes rusty and is stupidly priced)
When my car left the factory it was British racing green, so I'm thinking going back to its roots with a yellow stripe right down the middle of the car with the yellow widening around the radiator intake hole.........
Guys, it's an open forum, give me some inspiration...........
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Well, you said no metallic but...
I have seen one racing Elan here with similar color than this pic. Looked awesome, all those curves pops out. This car is my friends, painted in some modern Alfa Romeo paint
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Mmmmmmm mk2 escort,
The Scandinavians knew how to throw them around......
I agree the right colour can make a car look amazing.....
I want to keep people guessing so they can't tell what lurking under the bonnet, a modern colour might suggest a twist lol
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I dont think you need to worry about the purists lol...choose any colour you like..theres some great mazda colours to choose?
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I dont think you need to worry about the purists lol...choose any colour you like..theres some great mazda colours to choose?
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Lmao I'm not bothered about the purists I'm even planning on going to my local dealer when it's finished to say I think the BRAP BRAP BRAP Is the cause of a misfire and could they take a look with the intent of them chasing me off the forecourt hahaha
I just like the lines of classic cars. But I could be swayed of green and orange of the 787 lolllll
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But that is a nice colour blue .......
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Blues my fav car colour.
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It will match my silicone intake hoses too lol
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Mazda winning blue is nice and i chose mazda Aurora blue for the Westy..
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New Miata red would be awesome too... But yes, I do know what you mean. Color for that era would be perfect. Unfortunately, all those colors look like crap

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Just had to google winning blue.............. yes I agree thats nice Jon.
Hahahaha Jarno ! I admire your honesty :13: I guess colour is a personal taste. Yes the Red Miata, is a nice colour, theres a guy at the Shelsley Walsh hillclimb who has one.
I posted a few pics below.... I know this forum isnt for any old car, but as an example my 1947 Chevy Truck was painted in gloss beige from the 1980's Volvo 240 of all things, with satin maroon to break it up.
Jon theres a standard lotus blue which looks similar to your aurora blue.
As much as I like the 787 Le Mans livery, (reminds me of a box of Tic Tacs) I think i need to stay true to what the car is, a 70's British car.
The white with the black roof and blacked out bumpers etc.........drool !
Anyway, back to fibreglass a dash board mould........ Christmas Eve in the shed at 6am, woot !
p.s. see the recessed filler cap on the truck...... :P :P theres a bit of a theme going on.
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Ohh like the lotus blue...
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.......and just because....
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and to be fair, I have plenty of time to decide.....
Its not like the MOT is on Friday.... haha ( wishful thinking )
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Yeah, that blue Lotus looks awesome...
But, for race car, usually best choise for color is really unusual color, color thats different than other people has...
Well, dunno, just my two cent 
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https://www.google.com/search?q=pink+mazda++race+car&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjw8bfd5bjfAhXHw-AKHUDZCD0Q2-cCegQIABAC&oq=pink+mazda++race+car&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-img.3...32163.36360..37064...1.0..0.121.779.3j5......0....1.........0j0i67j0i7i30j30i10j33i10.8fzIGfdEna8&ei=8vwgXPCwKceHgwfAsqPoAw&client=safari&prmd=isnv&biw=768&bih=928#imgrc=E1ZMdhVzuS_yfM
Hey jarno, what do you think ?
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That car is perfect for Jarno!!!
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That car is perfect for Jarno!!!
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Ouch lol! I'm not getting involved with this, I dont know people well enough to comment hahaha
Anyway, hope all you guys, gals and your families have a super Christmas, thanks for all your support and encouragement on the Frankenstein creation.
Here's to 2019!
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Lol Jarno knows im pulling his leg...he would come back with some comment about me crashing it lol.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=pink+mazda++race+car&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjw8bfd5bjfAhXHw-AKHUDZCD0Q2-cCegQIABAC&oq=pink+mazda++race+car&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-img.3...32163.36360..37064...1.0..0.121.779.3j5......0....1.........0j0i67j0i7i30j30i10j33i10.8fzIGfdEna8&ei=8vwgXPCwKceHgwfAsqPoAw&client=safari&prmd=isnv&biw=768&bih=928#imgrc=E1ZMdhVzuS_yfM
Hey jarno, what do you think ?
LOl Looks like sh*t, but atleast it has steering wheel on right side of the car... ;) LOL Jon, No, I wouldnt say anything like that :13:
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Ha ha. Anyways Merry Xmas everyone!.
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Merry Christmas all. My two penneth is one of your original thoughts , British Racing Green with the Yellow or another favourite was I believe called Bristol Racing Blue??? but can find no evidence to support this other than I had a Ford Consul Classic resprayed in this colour back in the 60's.
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Merry Christmas all. My two penneth is one of your original thoughts , British Racing Green with the Yellow or another favourite was I believe called Bristol Racing Blue??? but can find no evidence to support this other than I had a Ford Consul Classic resprayed in this colour back in the 60's.
Yeah, Im struggling to find a more "fitting" colour......... but plenty of time to draw a conclusion.
So ive been busy over the holiday period making my first multi part mould for the dashboard.
Needs tidying up and flatting back in places and the gel coat has chipped but no major dramas that cant be rectified.
Had to bash the pattern to get the mould off, but it was a disposable item anyway.......
Will post the finished dashboard in the new year......... long hot tub weekend away with the better half as shes been a "shed widow" most of December.
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Staying on the topic of dashboards......
Just read the interesting info on Clive's website surrounding the sandwich plate adaptor..........
Can anyone spec up a decent oil pressure and oil temperature gauge?
I'll need to make provision for those sooner than later
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Ah ! Seen Clive does gauges too........
Might not fit my application tho..... Nothing is simple
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Im at work ill detail some specs later mate.
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Thanks Jon,
There's no immediate rush, I'm on holibobs in Devon ATM.
I've emailed Clive on the rbe website to see if I can get a price for the instrument panel without the water temp gauge and the ashtray mount......
Been on the bay of "E" and there are some discounted items there, but unsure of the quality.......
You get what you pay for I guess
Appreciate the support tho... :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft:
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Nightmare nightshift!!
anyways. RB sandwich from Clive 2 ports i believe 1/8 npt. oil pressure 0 to 150psi. oil temp 0-150 C..
quality branded gauges should be fine.
As your going on track id get a pressure gauge with a low limit warning...a bright light is easier to detect at speed than a needle on a gauge.
Due to your weight, sticky tyres etc i suspect you could fall into my category of oil starvation in corners on track...2 engines later....lol..baffle that sump!!! set low limit warning to 30psi so will be on at idle. ...and have you fitted a uprated oil press reg in sump? Clives got them in stock.
If your using the stock oil coolers these have oil bypass thermostats in there so oil will get up to temp quickly...max 110 deg C Oil is used for cooling in Rotarys. need a Coolant Gauge ideally too....
Another option is a Digi Dash...I use a BJR...cheaper than gauges. :13:
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Which god foresaken place is making you work nights on new years eve????
I have a few things to buy from Clive in the new year so ill get a sandwich plate, i think the one hole is 3/8 NPT but plenty of senders about.
Noted on the range and warning light.
Ive not done anything yet to the engine apart from exhaust manifold and braided oil cooler lines coz stock ones didnt fit.
If you have any info on baffling the sump ill do that and get a oil pressure regulator from clive.
I like the digi dashes like SPA and stack, but think they are more suited to your westy, ill stick with analogue lol....
Is the stock water temp gauge no good?
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Buy decent AN fittings! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181231/6c31aaf253bcc58ae9122de73ec1752d.jpg)
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Thats not good !!!
I got a friend who works for Pirtek, he knocked me some up out the back of his van, swaged ends the lot.......
Wasnt cheap, but they do this sort of stuff for a living.
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Off tonight hic! Other shift is in..ha ha..hrs fell good this year...back in 2nd now. Short shelf life food industry....Prawns lol i work in the prawn industry.
Stock gauge not linear i believe when it shows hot too late...gauges not cheap but cheaper than a rebuild. Defo on track need to know whats going on.
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Prawns? Lol
Not disrespecting your job, but don't you live in like the most inland county in he uk? Haha
I work in the waste industry, so equally as glamorous.
God I wish I didn't use the stock gauges now, my dashboard could be so much simpler :( :( :( :(
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Yep its wierd...raw materials come in from South East Asia...we cook freeze and pack for uk supermarkets. Pretty old school i like it so much BS in food industry.
Check out BJR digi dash. Bout 500 dash all sensors etc rev gauge shift light...cheaper Acewell but they look naff.
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Had a few prices for gauges from various places, Merlin tends to give me the spec I want for the right price.
Need to get my order in with Clive for the sandwich plate.....amongst all my other goodies.
Anyhoo, dashboard is out the mould, roughly got rid of all the flashing and offered it up.........
Fits like a glove! just gotta get the clocks, glove box door and heater vents to fit now.
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Nice. Keep up the good work
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Wow, I can already see the dash is going to look great once finished
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Cheers guys, it come out better than I expected, despite all the undercuts on the product.
Gel coat hides a multitude of sins lol
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FINALLY !!
So! come to fit the parts, there was some movement during bolting the mould together and laying up the glass.
The glove box and dashboard gaps were really annoying me, yeah I know its just a glove box, but a passenger will notice it!
So I carved a massive section out and reglassed it.
Just finished fitting it up.
Bit pi**ed off with it now, need to move onto something different like the centre console and integrating oil temp/pressure gauges and heater controls. Need to cover up the mounting bolts under the clocks.................
The paint and flocking can waiting till final fit up.
I may have launched the dash out the shed if it wasnt gonna play ball! :angry5: :angry5: :angryfire: :angryfire: :violent1:
Like the clocks coming into contact with the heater !!
And breathe...........
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Love it
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Ha ha labour of love...i remember 3 x weekends modifying my grp seat to fit. Complete ballache but got there in the end.
Keep at it defo gonna be unique.
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:sign0098: taking shape nicely :13:
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Nice, really nice :sign0098: But why glovebox?
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Nice, really nice :sign0098: But why glovebox?
wallet keys and phone....? i have to use a helmet bag to stash my wallet keys and phones when out in westy with draw string tied around rollcage.
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Nice, really nice :sign0098: But why glovebox?
wallet keys and phone....? i have to use a helmet bag to stash my wallet keys and phones when out in westy with draw string tied around rollcage.
Well, the honest answer is two-fold. The original purpose of the car was for it to be road legal, so, you know how it is when women need somewhere to put their designer glasses lol (Not being sexist, just factual)
Plus the fuses/relays/ecu/alarm boxes from the RX8 engine bay wont fit in the lotus engine bay, so I was gonna tuck them both high up on the passenger side bulk head.
The glove box hides a multitude of sins and by "popping" it out Ive got good access
No other reason......
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Fair enough

Good job anyhow 
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Cheers :13:
Look nicer when its finished lol
Lets hope I can see over it when the dash top goes on
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Some ideas for the lotus to introduce some mods cons...........
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Lol....nag free in mine.....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190123/641bfe092cfca110b9e565a435691dd4.jpg)
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Ah well, you could always get one that doesn't nag lol
Definitely a Spartan cockpit.
Reminds me of this advert ................
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Some ideas for the lotus to introduce some mods cons...........
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Christmas come early !!!
Goodies from Captain Clive !!!!
I know what Ill be doing tonight .............
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Someone couldn't wait, look what you've done to that poor, innocent delivery box :( ;) :))
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Someone couldn't wait, look what you've done to that poor, innocent delivery box :( ;) :))
Well it would be unfair to disclose how much the invoice was for..............but I think a lot of Clives contribution margin was lost on Cellotape packing it up lol.
I used patience with scissors for around 2 mins, but then I started to sweat and my eyes went green.......there was this piercing screeching noise and I just lost it hahahah
(notice how neatly the contents had to be rearranged and some promo stickers strategically arranged)
I think I may have anger issues! lol
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LOL !
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Shiny stuff...nice Racing Beat stickers ...nice.
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Evening Jon
They are indeed...........exciting times!
They are certainly shinier than the new pattern for the fibreglass centre console.
Its still early days and looking very ugly, made from part of the original and chopped out bits added, drywall adhesive, wood, and boat loads of filler.
The oil pressure / temp gauge will be grafted onto this too.
Its an obscure shape, but it makes sense when it marrys up with the dashboard.
Off to the Middle East on Friday so progress will be slow for a week or two..........
Clive...... I have a couple of Q? on the new parts, can I give you a tinkle tomorrow if youre in the office?
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Out of the office tomorrow, but you can still get me on 01474 777800, leave a message if I don't get to it quick enough.
I suspect you may ask if you need a return line ?
When I ordered the FPR, I was told that whilst the RX-8 is classed as a return less system a return pipe needs to be plumbed back into the bottom port on the FPR.
Jon, can you help Jamie with some pictures as you are running the same type of fuel system setup ?
Malcolm, it would help if you could take some pictures of the fuel pipes where they meet the bulkhead to show the colours of the fuel connectors as this should also help Jamie know what pipes go where. From memory your looking at red and blue connectors.
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I see you found I like a little bit of tape to secure things then ;)
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A little bit?
That packaging was stronger than my welding !!!
Nope the return line isn't an issue, but any help Jon and Malcolm can give would certainly be welcomed.........I'm asuuming the regulator is set at the correct pressure and its "non adjustable" ?
It was more about the tails on the pump you emailed about and the extra one taped to the outside of the box, it's only a quickie, I'll buzz you tomorrow.
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I'm out tomorrow, but I'll try to get some pics up on Friday.
Are you using that new Walbro pump in an RX-8 fuel basket? If so, that's the same as I'm currently running. Not sure if you are aware that the recommendation is to melt the plastic around the top of the pop-off valve on the basket, to prevent the higher pressure pump activating it. Done it on mine and never had an issue.
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I'm out tomorrow, but I'll try to get some pics up on Friday.
Are you using that new Walbro pump in an RX-8 fuel basket? If so, that's the same as I'm currently running. Not sure if you are aware that the recommendation is to melt the plastic around the top of the pop-off valve on the basket, to prevent the higher pressure pump activating it. Done it on mine and never had an issue.
Hey, no it's a bespoke tank, outlet to fuel filter, then an "out of tank" walboro pump
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I'm going to be out the country after Friday until the 8th Feb, so don't bust a gut to get the info
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Im running rx8 stylee return less. My tank houses the original rx8 fuel pot with inboard regulator. I have added a sytec filter in the engine compartment. Its ran in 8mm id fuel hose from pump to rx8 hard fuel lines. The original is hard shelf plastic pipe. If your careful you cant cut this off the rx8 coupler and attach coupler to 8mm fuel hose so it fits onto hard metal fuel pipes.
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Hi Clive,
Just dropped you a mail from my gmail account.
Not expecting anything this evening........
I'm off to get a gin, been scratching my skull for a while I've drawn blood .......
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Back in Blighty didn’t see 1 rotary :'(
Day off work going shopping at merlin Motorsport need some retail therapy.
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Week away from the shed...................
Removeable dash top ready to clad in HD foam and then Vinyl for that authentic 70's vibe.
Centre console pattern taking shape, needs a little fettling, then make the mould.
Sigh.............
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The 8 clocks looks cool in the dash...very original war of worlds esqe.
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The 8 clocks looks cool in the dash...very original war of worlds esqe.
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I've no idea but cheers fella......
Went to merlin yesterday and picked up my new oil pressure/temp gauge which is going in the centre console under the tachometer
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Afternoon all,
Im in need of some advice......marry, kill, or bury in the back yard alive.................. joking!
From a servicing, longevity, safety, yadda yadda perspective......
Need to find a location for mounting fuel pump and filter.
Options are 1, inside the car, near the sump and outlet of the fuel tank. Fuel lines run inside the car also.
or 2, in the same location under the car. The original rear seat squab of the previous location provides a void, so pump and filter sit above the scrub line of the car and therefore cannot come into contact with anything. Fuel lines would run inside the transmission tunnel clipped to the box section.
Photos attached for clarity, I can see pros and cons for both, but would appreciate experiences from all walks, either road, track or race car owners.
Cheers in advance.
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missed one :(
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Somewhere easily accessible for checking.
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The roof? Lol
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lol the easiest place :P ...you got a tank vent and roll over valve?
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A what valve?
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Roll over valve...if going on track shuts off vent incase of rollover and also shuts off in high g corners to stop fuel going up it and out.
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Is this something you can buy, because I planned on using the original spec vent pipe which routes around the underside of the roof, and out the floor of the car
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yes mate its just a little shuttle check valve that goes inline with the vent hose.
God forbid you turn it over then fuel will run out vent pipe spilling all over ground around car....then possible catch on fire....very 70s race car :13: depending on where your vent connection is on your tank hard braking acceleration or corning can force fuel up the line and out whilst on the move....
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/s/fuel-system/tank-breather-valve-and-roll-over-valves i bought the 2nd 1 in Top Left as had 8mm vent piping.
various prices and fittings.... :) i had it happen to me at combe i came out of camp and down towards start/finish straight depositing all my fuel over back tyres....luckily a keen eye marshall spotted it god knows how and i was black flagged !
I had to go into Merlin and buy the bits and make trackside mods.... :violent1:
mine: 8mm fuel hose from tank vent hosetail upto top of cage. Roll over valve vent inserted just before top monted vertically a sper destructions. Return down rollbar under bodywork but over axle and ran out the back off the car so vents behind wheels. fitted some 4 years ago no issues since.
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Cheers Fella,
As the for the pump and filter location? under floor, over floor wombling free?
Inside the car Ive gotta pull the seats out.
Under the car, I can see anything dripping, but I have a pit I can use.
Just whether its gonna get covered in crap.
Don't really want high pressure fuel leaks inside. I suppose a firewall will be next on the cards.
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Under i reckon as shown in photo...may be a little alloy cover over pump n filter to protect from dirt. Run the fuel line up the inside of tunnel. Over top of bell housing into fuel rail
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Good decision,
Me and the father in law cooked up the same theory.
The underside of the car will have a full length aluminium diffuser to try and generate some "suck down" at the back as I don't want to ruin the lines of the car with a spoiler.
This potentially will cover the pump and filter.
I suppose the only with Q is, (which I would appreciate your or anyone view is) do I run 8mm bore rubber fuel hose or try and utilise the original metal pipes and re shape to suit.
Maybe im over-thinking stuff again, just thinking, hot - cold temperatures rubber perishing etc.
answers on a postcard, or just reply here lol
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Hose is fine...or new 8mm id cooper pipe for length of tunnel..
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Busy morning,
made the mould in the week, had to destroy the pattern to get it out....undercuts everywhere.
So laid up the centre console in the mould this morning.........
Looks like I've found a piece of furry road kill !! It just needs to marry up with the dash and get the gear shift cover to clip in nicely.
Fingers crossed!
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Theres still a bit of tarting up to do and some additional Gel Goat, but its bolted down, theres provision for the new oil pressure/temp gauge and the stock centre console cover clips in place.
Its been a while to get to this point, but now im excited because next on the cards are new wings and arches. :13: :13:
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That looks an amazingly good fit :great:
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That looks an amazingly good fit :great:
Yeah I'm 80% happy with it, it was a right b*****d to make.
I had to destroy the pattern to make the mould, then had to destroy the mould to get the product.
Won't be doing any production runs..........
The wings and arches should be easy in comparison......... Fingers crossed !
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Its up!
I put far too much faith in those engine mounts and lifting eyes!
Looks like its a display in an art museum!!
.......this one is called "Destroying British Sportscars" ;)
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This thing is going to be awesome! :great:
Umm, what regulation roll gage is that? No door bars?
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Lol it's my own design.
I downloaded a copy of the MSA blue book and adopted as many principles from the regs as possible.
A basic cage doesn't require door bars from my understanding.
And besides which, top of the roof is 47 inches off the floor and I tip the scales at 118kg. It's a tight squeeze now, I'd never get in or out with door bars haha need a diet before race day lol.
My main reason for the cage was for added stiffness between the body and chassis. I can still unbolt the body from the chassis, but the cage is now a permanent fixture. It's bolted to the steel sill members, eventually I will glass the a pillars around the cage for a bit more rigidity as they are cracked in places where the rubber trim goes so that will help too.
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Ok, I see... Doesent require door bars? Really?
Well, I would ad those...
Looks really good, I hope I can see it live some day 
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Not going racing Jarno so need and no regs.
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Yup!
I think its depends what racing series youre competing in.
I know you can do hillclimbs in a production car with no cage at all on a national B license.
Ya see the odd MX5 in some of the higher classes with a roll-over hoop and 2 x backstay maybe with a diagonal brace for triangulation.
Maybe when youre entering a racing class that demands the cage is FIA approved that you need the full blown cage.
Mines there for rigidity with the plus benefits as if I do have an accident, I will have protection as well......which is nice to know lol
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If it helps you sleep at night Jarno, I may fit some side impact bars inside the doors.
I could pop some stickers on the impact bars that says, "Jarno, my guardian angel!" "Protect me from that BMW M5 that's powering out of Quarry corner!"
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Had to share these pics with you guys as it made me chuckle.
Going back to the Henry Ford days of the Model T with wooden wheels lol or a pantomime car.
Not sure what tyre choice to go with........ maybe 18/20ZR24 ;D ;D ;D
For those thinking WTF is he doing????? its a guide so I can see how far I need to bring the arches out, to clear the wheels and not look like the suspension is broken.
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Why am I thinking Fred Flintstone when I see that pic ;)
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Why am I thinking Fred Flintstone when I see that pic ;)
WILLLLMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!
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BAAAAARRRRRRNNNNYYYY :13: :13:
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Hi Guys,
Can someone just clarify the following
Measuring the toe in on the rear wheels........... does the below table suggest that measuring between the inner faces of the rim, at a mid point.....
The front "edges" of the rim should be 1.9mm closer together than the rear. Or is it 1.9mm per side from a centreline down the length of car meaning that the total difference between the inner faces of the rim is 3.8mm between front and rear edges?
I dunno if any of that makes sense !?!?!?!
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Sorry, Standard RX8 service manuals used.
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Mmmm you need Clive mate me thinks Clive recently advise me 0.15 toe in rear overall and 0.07 on each rear wheel on a rx7 fd as it moves abit on acceleration and turning forces.
The rear on an 8 is superior and does not wander as much so values gonna be less as a guide...till someone can give you exact figures...
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Cheers Jon, :13: I'll wait for Clive to share some experience on the matter.
Theres no immediate rush, Im setting the wooden discs Ive bolted on at 0 degrees from the car centre line from the point of view of making the arches.
Just wanted some clarity when it comes to putting them all back to a factory position..........(until it comes to fine tuning)
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Ive only got 1 arch on at mo...as tyre hit it off...lol
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Ive only got 1 arch on at mo...as tyre hit it off...lol
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That's some tight tolerance lol
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Almost as good as that table above, there the +/- tolerance is greater than the measurement itself lol
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My live axle moves about abit, on hard g corners...sometimes the prop uj kisses the tunnel lol..9j slicks for you. The panhard rod needs rose jointing me thinks.
Are you sure you wanna stick with the 8s 18s...17s fit lower your gearing and improve acceleration.
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I'm going with 17" steels so it's more in keeping with the look of the car.
I've already got them, dun like the standard alloys, might use them or wets or something
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There's a pic of them on page 2 of this thread.
Thought of you this week, remember you talking about fitting wider wheels on the back to over cone oversteer but now it's promoting under steer.
I got a book on aerodynamics by Simon mcbeath...... There was a photo of an open wheeled car, the nose cone was full width so it created an air dam in front if the front wheels and helped with downforce......... Food for thought
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Yep...ive seem something silmiliar on race v8 westys.
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Yep...ive seem something silmiliar on race v8 westys.
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Well if you have any ideas on how you want it to look, id make you one from grp if ya didn't fancy doing it yourself....... No obligation, something to play about with which can be easily swapped for the standard one
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Cool thanks mate.
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No stress, I've not even got my hands dirty .
I might not be able to achieve it myself, but if I can do summat that gets you a 1.12 round CC , well you can thank be then lol
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Jon, a bit off topic but you should lose that panhard and use Wat link.
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Yeah ! Does this look like a panhard rod Westfield agony aunt problem corner...... Start ya own thread!
Ha ha ha ha I'm kidding right.
That's a far point jarno,...... I've never made a watts linkage as I've had enough clearance to cope with panhard rod........ But they don't look difficult.
A few mods before race season Jon? Need to get some more traction on that front end without chucking bags of cement in the passenger footwell.
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There ya go Jon.
That looks simple........ Ugly as sin and that youre about to plough snow. But look at the Audi Quattro Pike Peak car from the 80s. It was gorgeous yet ugly at the same time, yeah ..........it makes sense in my head.
That thing is a piece of 3/4" ply for ya base, cut it to your shape, route a full 10mm rad on the front lip, by the time you layered up some filler on it, the ply will be 20mm. Then glue on slabs of polystyrene insulation from B&Q.
Shape it to the desired profile, skim of filler, (dont forget to PVA it or the filler will melt the foam) and boom you have a pattern. Soon make a mould and get a product from that.
You can unbolt it and use it as a standard westy while you tinker with Dive Planes for some fine tuning.
Maybe when I start moulding my front bumper youll get some more inspiration? Whats your strap line? Worry less, dream more!
Gaining an extra 40Kgs of downforce on the front end at high speed surely has to be a cheaper option that forking out for more traction on wider wheels and sticky rubber. Seems like you have nothing to lose.
Anyway, I set the alarm to come n play for the day, have a super day
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Yep thats it...snow plough..ugly as sin but if it works worth ago.
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If your traction is too great on the front end as a result and the tail gets loose, you can fine tune the front end, a cordless drill and a 2†tank cutter till you get the balance right lol.
Can unbolt it and make a less aggressive one if you wanna make it pretty lol
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Once the rx7 is back together i fancy giving this ago...only 1 sec to find and nailed the design brief! Ill make it (gotta learn new thing) will just need your fibreglass/ mould guidance. I did watch some you tube vids a while on mould making etc ..forgot it all now.
I was gonna weld some extra box section onto front of car. Box section into box section so can slip the front "plough" on and drop x2 pins into secure.
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Sorted! now ya talking.
Have a look at this page, its where I get some of my inspiration from
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Chrisisaacsracecars/photos/?tab=album&album_id=922312744451981
This is a good link also to get the basics. You need the underside slightly pointing down, only by 1 or 2 degrees. But reducing the amount of air flowing under reduces pressure and it will create an amount of suck down.
https://www.buildyourownracecar.com/race-car-aerodynamics-basics-and-design/
It will probably make little difference on a westy compared to a closed wheel saloon with a larger underfloor area, but adopt the principles as "good practise"as its better than having it pointing in the oppose direction and promoting lift .
No problem on the grp.............. if you need me to pop down on a Sat morning or whatever to get you started thats no aggro, just let me know either way. Happy to help.
Back to it, my shed looks like a bad day in Bosnia! Apologies to any Bosnians on this Forum.
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Yeah ! Does this look like a panhard rod Westfield agony aunt problem corner...... Start ya own thread!
Ha ha ha ha I'm kidding right.
That's a far point jarno,...... I've never made a watts linkage as I've had enough clearance to cope with panhard rod........ But they don't look difficult.
A few mods before race season Jon? Need to get some more traction on that front end without chucking bags of cement in the passenger footwell.

Well, its not about clearence, its about movement. Panhard makes diff move too much, Wat doesent...
Unfortunately, my english isnt too good so I cant explain these technical things... 
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Don’t panic your English is better than my Finnish, I know exactly what you mean.
The centre of the diff moves laterally as well as it moves vertically due to the arc travel of the Panhard rod, where the watts linkage just allows vertical travel.
That work for you ?
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Don’t panic your English is better than my Finnish, I know exactly what you mean.
The centre of the diff moves laterally as well as it moves vertically due to the arc travel of the Panhard rod, where the watts linkage just allows vertical travel.
That work for you ?
Exactly! That causes whole diff live under braking and acceleration. And that means that rear rubbers contact to surfase is not optimal. When I saw Jons car, I saw that it was "Old school" stuff. There is room for improvement. However, at that point, it did work. But Jon and car has gone above that point. It just doesent work anymore... Sorry gents, just my few thoughts, Im drunk ;) :D
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Shandy pants !!!
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Update......
Did this yesterday, never done this before....ever............. I just "wing" it :-\ :-\
From from my Victorian wheel alignment tool, and yes, that IS a bracket for a hanging basket!!!
Got lots of shaping to go yet, and Im only one the first one. No seriously, Im doing to be doing this for EVER!.
The front wing will be interesting, as Im changing the position of the ridge at the top of the wing and lifting it up, hence the laser level... that worked out nicely.
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Last few
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Excellent job, I particularly like the fact that you have keep the Elan type styling rather making slab sided box arches.
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Cheers Clive ! :13:
I still want to keep the styling cues from the original elan, rather than it looking like its crashed into a pile of MAX POWER magazines.
When its all finished, Im taking it to my local Lotus dealer, Paul Matty Sprotcars, complaining that my elan is making a rather strange BRAP BRAP BRAP sound.
...........See how long it takes him to chase me off the forecourt lol
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Clag it up......
Shot of standard width and new width
Enough for today.......... going in for a bath, school tomorrow
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Just spotted the suspension query. Even I was puzzled by this one because normally you would measure toe on the outside edge because if you measure toe from the inside edge, toe on the outside edge will become less accentuated .
Rear Toe will always need to have toe in as toe out is really dangerous on the rear, I remember reading about a jag that was sent out at Le Manns and was so unstable it resulted in a horrendous accident on the Mulsanne straight due to its instability due to setting toe out on the rear.
Jamie, what suspension set up are you running.
Maybe worth knowing that if your on stock Lotus arms at the front, that Lotus and many other F1 cars of the era of your car, used the main starting point settings taken from of all things-----------a Triumph Herald !
Maybe worth knowing that I always run the front parallel because when you plot out Akerman angle on any car, this makes the inside wheel as you enter a corner turn out a little more and this aids turn in "feel"
Hope this helps, even only a little. ;)
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Hey Clive,
It's all stock rx8 front n rear
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I really like that, looks awesome! :sign0098:
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Stock RX-8 suspension should be awesome as a starting point :13:
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Here we go, this will give a good starting point.
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Here's my last RX-8 setup, which I've not changed, as I find it works well for me. Very similar to Clive's!
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Here we go, this will give a good starting point.
Cheers guys,
Looking at this it looks like
Front
6 degrees of castor
1.4 degree of negative camber
Toe virtually straight ahead with a slight amount of toe in.
Rear
2 degree of negative camber
Toe virtually straight ahead with a slight amount of toe out.
I can see why toe out on the rear is "not preferred" as your outside wheel is going to be trying to whip you round, esp if it toes out further during suspension compression with weight transfer.
But the diagram suggests toe in on front, tow out on the rear.
........... and I was never going to use the Triumph Herald suspension lol.
I think by the time ive finished, only the rook panel with be the original lotus part un modified.
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There is a car out there for everyone I guess !!
I like the SuperTrapp style mufflers, not very good at shooting flames out though.
Cant knock him for the ambitious wing styling....erm. Ive not finished mine yet, they could look gash !
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There is a car out there for everyone I guess !!
I like the SuperTrapp style mufflers, not very good at shooting flames out though.
Cant knock him for the ambitious wing styling....erm. Ive not finished mine yet, they could look gash !
Well I wouldnt choose SuperTrap for a rotary. Two reason:
Flames and exhaust temperature will melt them.
And cause rotary is basically two stroke, they will be too restricting and may cause too much exhaust back pressure...
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I wouldn't disagree with you Jarno.......
They look different, even if they are completely impractical and Im all for doing things differently. :great:
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I wouldn't disagree with you Jarno.......
They look different, even if they are completely impractical and Im all for doing things differently. :great:
Well, thats a good point 

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Should have the offside front n rear wings done by Saturday evening, minus the beading........
Getting excited, will post pics.......
The hardest bit will be getting the near side ones to matchl lol
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Well I failed!
Did get as much done as I wanted :( :'( changed my mind on the shape of the front wing.
Loads of low spots still............. and theres no little flare on the edge of the opening..... so yeah far from finished.
Best to show what the wings were like before so y'all have a comparison how far out ive come.
Taking some styling cues from modern cars, they tend to have roughly 40mm gap all round the tyre. Unless they are slammed to the ground and tucked up in the arches.
Not a great fan of that look, looks like the suspension is bust, and this car lonly has 120mm ground clearance atm, even less when the underfoor aerodynamics get fitted.
Managed to get wet filler in my beard too!!! pfffftttttt .......bad weekend. :angry5: :angry5: :angry5:
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So now ive finished my hissy fit at myself ive got a shape i like and happy with.
The downside is, these are just the patterns, Ive got moulds to make, and product, and graft them on the car.....somehow.
Pants! I gotta do the other side too.
Less chit-chat, more filler!
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I hate cars!
No I hate body work and filler!
sanding has gone past the point of being theraputic and relaxing to becoming a PITA!
On the second side, trying to match up the first side. I hate cars!
Had a vist yesterday from a guy who makes motorsport fibreglass panels, so got a steer in the right direction on making the moulds, the new panels and grafting them on.
Reckon Im a month away from getting the new wings fitted yet, I hate cars!
I wanna be making brackets, underfloor bits,
Gonna have a try at painting it myself, gonna have a try at rebuilding the engine myself.....someone not too far away twisted my arm.
All thats left is everything else.
I hate cars
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You love it really, what else would you be doing....
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Im gonna be doing this for 3 years working every day on it.
I could be in bed carrying out acts of "horizontal refreshment"
At least ive have that finished in 30 secs....... lol
maybe I just need a week break from it........ and the Rotus. :-\
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Yep, walk away for abit if becoming a grind, ive done that on numerous occasions. Take a break, do summit else come back re- invigorated...
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, gonna have a try at rebuilding the engine myself.....someone not too far away twisted my arm.
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Been twisting my arm for about 5 years lol....im seeing how Jarnos pans out...
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Been twisting my arm for about 5 years lol....im seeing how Jarnos pans out...
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Only ever rebuilt two stroke bike engines, with a bit of port work..... well I say a bit of port work...., see below..... I turned the barrels and the pistons back to front, lol
I cant leave anything alone ....
Theres not many more moving parts in a renesis.....
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As I said, rotarys arent so difficult. But you need to know some, how I say, "little tricks". Research, thinking, learning, and some common sense...
Im not expert on these things. And there is just few experts here. But you have lots of experts there, that helps alot...
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100% agree Jarno
but common sense isnt common.......
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Exatly...
and my new phone can take 900frame per second slow mo video, so when my engine blews up, we can see epic footage 

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EPIC!!
Have faith in yourself Jarno
The pics on social media look impressive...............esp the colour of that clutch !!!! :)) :)) :))
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Lol... Naah...,


Damit Jamie, that clutch isnt pink, its kind of lila!
My wife said that its weird how different color that thing is live compared those pics...
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You must have a really bright flash on your camera.......
.... like a pink flash hahaha
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Exatly...
and my new phone can take 900frame per second slow mo video, so when my engine blews up, we can see epic footage 

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Whats the sounds like? Can we pick out the apex seals dancing down the downpipe?
Youll be fine mate, triple check everything and get that tune spot on...
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Dammit Jamie

I reckon we can spot apexes flying out at light speed 

Well, I have good confidense to my tuners. It will be fine I quess. Everything can happen tho...
Thats why desided to choose Adaptronic, I can use lots of features to keep engine relativly safe
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Glad you have a sense of humour Jarno.....
I dont think anyone can question the masculinity of a Viking God! pink clutch or not
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Some Viking Gods are female if not very feminine, don't know of one that likes either pink or lilac though. :dontknow: :))
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Awww poor Jarno, hes getting it from all angles......
To fair, in my defense........
I only mentioned "the colour of your clutch"
Jarno mentioned the P word lollll
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Ill paint whole damn engine pink...

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Nooooo don’t do it......
....... you’ll have glitter shooting out the exhaust instead of flames
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It would be FABOLOUS!

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FYI
My gf said its lilac too...... I'm not sure what's worse tho lol
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So...... had another hissy fit Saturday
Had some advice from Jon to have a break, ignored him (Sorry Jon), and cracked on and the second rear wing come out better than the first side.
The arches on the back have been bugging me for a while in terms of what car they remind me of.
I know theyre a one-off secret b***ard love child of an Elan but they def remind me of another car.........then it dawned on me.....
Can ya guess what it is?
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Jon, you're not my fav person ATM lol .........You n colours, got my cogs turning.
Now you picked a modern Mazda colour for your 7, you got me thinking of period Mazda colours
http://www.fast-classics.com/cars/mazda-cosmo-110-s-for-sale/
Btw, does anyone know the colour code? Just in case, can't find it online ......
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That is lovelly orange...
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Amen to that !
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I think the RX3's were "mandarin orange"
I bet Clive would know!
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With my anorak firmly zipped up :-[, yes RX3's came in mandarin orange ;)
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Hahahaha :th_smiley-typing:
I think that could be the colour!!!
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Looks lovely with a spattering of chrome or silver and satin black mmmm or maybe carbon fibre.
The orange would also hide the rust marks from coming through, but then no risk of that on GRP lol
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I like it :icon_thumleft:
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I like it :icon_thumleft:
Yeah, it wasn't an obvious choice for me,
My fav colour is yellow, but someone else is synonymous with that colour lol. mention no names.
Besides, I don't think I can deal with all the bugs it will attract in the summer lol. At least Clive drives fast enough that they cant keep up with his.
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With my anorak firmly zipped up :-[, yes RX3's came in mandarin orange ;)
Hey Clive,
Through your contacts etc... would you be able to find the colour code to mandarin orange???
Ive checked online, but not having much success.
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Not updated this thread for a while....
So Ive finally managed to shape all 4 wings.
Put the first coat of Crystic Primer on tonight. Mix it with the catalyst and brush it on like treacle.
2 more coats tomorrow then start flatting it all down.
Shows roughly how big the moulds are going to be, and the new panels...... then its D-Day ! lol
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Evening chaps,
If anyone would like to stick their 2 pence worth its more than welcome, as I have no experience here.
Ive acquired a freebie, double thickness ali rad, fan shroud doesnt fit perfect so brackets need cutting off and doing properly, couple more like 200 cooling fins are bent hmmmm.
How sensitive are the 8's with temp? esp with the mods I was planning...... :dontknow:
Is it worth pursueing or buy new??? :dontknow:
Ive gotta change all the front rad sub frame due to the shape of the wings, but thats no biggie..... rather get the subframe designed round a new rad if the stock one wont cope.
Dimensions of the diffuser isnt playing ball with the chassis design, :violent1: so Im off in to sulk with my bedtime reading
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Buy new highly critical that you have a branded quality Alloy rad esp. For track use...Koyo rad gets my vote.
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Ok, RBE I presume?
quick question?
Just on the RBE website, noticed the integral filler cap, does that suggest I do away with the header tank?
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Mmmm RBE? Whats that...
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Racing beat Europe?
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Ahhh, soz been a long day....Clive sell Koyo...not sure could be wrong but dont think rbe make rads.
I think your chouces are radtec mishimoto and koyo...
Id have a word with Clive...unless that rads branded i wouldnt risk it.
Ive got a koyo on fd and radtec on westy...the Koyos better...dual pass.
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No panic, I didn't explain myself very well, I meant purchase from rbe.....
Yeah there's 3 types of aftermarket ones
Dual pass? Soz
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+1 for the Koyo. I use it in my RX-8 as cooling is a big issue for a track work.
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Dual pass, 2 chambers, coolant does a double pass..so not in at bottom out at top easiest route...effectively in at bottom pass through to top, pass to bottom out at top..superior cooling.
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A modified Koyo in one V mount set up the seconds running a mishimoto RX8 rad and intercooler shoe horned into the V.
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Kev, Im lost! lol
Diffuser design coming along
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I know who to see as the master of solid works when I want some more parts designing for the 3d printer, I normally end up making dummy thin wall prints for mocking up purposes before the main one.
RE a V mount It's just a slightly different radiator intercooler set up.
Essentially three variations of a theme top mount is with the rad in the traditional position with a intercooler above the engine the big down side to this is heat soak plus point shorter pipe runs
Front mount the intercooler is in front of a traditionally placed radiator it necessitates longer pipe runs and obviously as you've a heater in front of the rad air temps passing through it are higher and tend to have less velocity offsetting this is cooler combustion air temps to the engine and less heat soak.
V mount has the cooler horizontally mounted (ish) with the radiator below and cantered back with ducting you can get full velocity ambient air temps to both rad and intercooler at the expense of more engineering and possible space issues.
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Dual pass, 2 chambers, coolant does a double pass..so not in at bottom out at top easiest route...effectively in at bottom pass through to top, pass to bottom out at top..superior cooling.
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Gotcha !!!!
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I know who to see as the master of solid works when I want some more parts designing for the 3d printer, I normally end up making dummy thin wall prints for mocking up purposes before the main one.
RE a V mount It's just a slightly different radiator intercooler set up.
Essentially three variations of a theme top mount is with the rad in the traditional position with a intercooler above the engine the big down side to this is heat soak plus point shorter pipe runs
Front mount the intercooler is in front of a traditionally placed radiator it necessitates longer pipe runs and obviously as you've a heater in front of the rad air temps passing through it are higher and tend to have less velocity offsetting this is cooler combustion air temps to the engine and less heat soak.
V mount has the cooler horizontally mounted (ish) with the radiator below and cantered back with ducting you can get full velocity ambient air temps to both rad and intercooler at the expense of more engineering and possible space issues.
Oh ok, I need to caviat it with, I'm not running intercooler as its N/A nor the air conditioner cooler/rad.
Just tilting it forward a fraction from stock to clear the bodywork.
No worries on the CAD, just bear in mind I'm far from an expert on CAD. I'm better at hands on, but I use CAD when it's quicker than building prototypes to prove something off
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Update...... so, Ive changed my mind...........again !
The new Koyo rad is on the horizon, and it needs tipping forward a tad more to get it under the nose cone! Most will call it a bumper, but Im calling it a nose cone, all will become clear (as mud)
So the original rad sub frame is junk, carved a load off but using it to hold the wood for the pattern.
So we're extending the front wings around the wheels a bit more and making the whole front flat rather than it pointing out in the middle.
Need to lay up some fibre glass on the leading edge of the bonnet opening and have a vertical return going down the flatfront.
The vertical flange will serve 2 purposes, firstly be the start to making the inner wheel arch "liners" with the integral louvres as per the RX8 to vent the hot oil cooler air into the wheel well.
The vertcial flange will also provide mounting for the nose cone, which will house the headlights, thinking of a similar set up as the 787B with polycarbonate covers.
The nose cone will have the splitter and dive planes, house the air filter too.
Its a long road.........
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Finally got round to ordering the passenger seat.
Had to get the widest one available for ........erm......wider hips lol
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Well the patterns have got to the next stage..... first few coats of primer flatted down.
Despite all the colour differences, its actually mirror smooth.
just goes to show when you think youve got a panel smooth with filler theres still highs n lows. At least my arms got a work out past few weeks, saved gym membership........
I wish I could just lacquer it now, but theyre a tad heavy lol.
Onward......next bit. Never thought id say i miss fibreglassing,
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A year ago today I finished my chassis build
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155658901095805&set=a.10155375624865805&type=3&sfns=mo
Seems like 10 years since then
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Can't see that link Jamie - private permissions maybe?
Have sent you a Facebook Friend request :)
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Added you ole bean :icon_thumright:
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:sign0098: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft: Great set of pictures (and vid!) :)
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:sign0098: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft: Great set of pictures (and vid!) :)
Oh the father in law chuntering on about power steering? lol
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Ok so im trying to re-introduce some Lotus styling again to the wings, as I had to cut the originals off.
Had some 8mm solid bar rolled to the diameter of the wooden template, then massaged them to fit the curvature of the wing.
Bonded them on with some filler, sand, (bit more to do) and voila!
Radiused flares, just like the original wings!
Its the tiny details like this that finish it off
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Again.....................these wing patterns!
Finished shaping the beading, last few coats of primer going on, flat it all down tonight and I could be making moulds tomorrow......about time!!!
Ive put the pimer on with a roller this time opposed to a brush as it took ages to sand the brush marks out. Spraying this stuff on is not an option at this stage.
The roller left a nice orange peel look. When I paint it manderin orange, shall I roller it on for that true authentic orange look ? lol
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Finally, 8 weeks have passed and Ive finished the patterns. From screwing wooden wheels to the alloys, timber alignment tools, PU expanding foam, filler filler filler filler filler, primer to sanding the last bit last night.
that's 2 weeks each corner, pfffft
Ill be waxing next tonight and making the moulds, plenty of pics soon.
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You are to be commended, such patience to produce such a work of art.
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its the better half who has more patience than me.........
It's my art form......she's the shed widow.
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Ok Gents!
Id like people to put their two pence worth on a matter as I cant decide.
Im killing time after putting the first coat of gel coat on for the moulds and thought Id offer up some LED lights I bought a while back.
I sold the original lights well quite frankly the lenses were cracked, chrome pitted, and I didnt like the design of them, theyre off a Federal Jaguar I think, sold to the American market originaly.......... well I got £130 quid for 2 battered lights I hated. (First rear light pic)
Anyhow, universal LED combination lights tend to be a bit commercial for lorry trailers, tractors and kit cars etc.
So I cant decide on whether my original rectangluar ones modelled by chewbacca arms, round ones, or the lozenge shaped thingys.
The rear valance needs to be modified anyway to accept new lights, so its not a case of what will fit best, more of what looks more appropriate.
The round ones are deep housings, so they will be recessed into the panel.
Let me know what you think, but please dont say, put the originals back on! lol
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I like the WAS ones :great:
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Round......... Rotary....... If I had the ability I'd make my own rotor shaped ones with each face, stop tail and winker
The rectangle ones are a bit "truckish"
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Wookie 1s...i put square led 1s on westy and binned the 1960s trailer lights that were on there...leds are hermitically sealed...job done..
Need to do my trailer 1s as left indicator aint worked for about a year.
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Well you are saving me money Jon as I have the rectangle ones lol
They're all LED ones.......
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I reckon two round ones per side would look nice
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Oooooo ive not thought of 2 per side.......
Now THATS got the cogs turning
I was thinking 2 headlights per side like the 787b in the top right hand corner of this forum, so that could tie in nicely.
Jon, see any issues for a current, power, brightness, wire thickness, perspective running them 2 per side????
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How about taking that a stage further and a Britax L78 https://www.beaconsandlightbars.co.uk/Britax-L78-series-Rear-LED-Combination-LightPN-L14.11.12.html
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Lol they’re not bad actually !!!
I’ll get one of those flaps that go on the end of the exhaust stacks like on the big rigs
Rotary with stacks lollllll
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And there is the first mould!!!
I must be happy, im smiling !!!
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Awesome...all i do is stick my fingers together and cover all my tool in resin...
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That sounds very suggestive lol
The worst bit is defying gravity and laying up upside down, cutting pieces no bigger than 100mm x 100mm to prevent the weight of the wet matting fall away.
Oh and getting resin my beard !
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Opps meant tools rofl...aint got my glasses on...and i cant spell.
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Beard snood!!!
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Looking good mate

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Beard snood!!!
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Yes I think you're right, I lost 3 hairs today pulling resin out, but 1 of them was grey so I don't mind so much lol
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Looking good mate 
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Thanks buddy
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Red Bull gives you wings!!!!
Or at least the moulds to make a left and right :13:
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You would think I would get some help around here.
3 women and not a peep, daft as a brush, all 3 of them !
I live in the estrogen ocean !
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So..... having read boat loads on Jons westory thread, few questions.... and Malcolm Im repeating myself so apologies....
Interesting to see the choice of wheels on Jons car play an important part, with the whole weight or lack of weight issue.
Im going with 17" steels so hopefully the slighter taller sidewall and a bit more weight will cure any unsettling.
Love the sock in the shifter hole, better than that blue gear stick! lol
So for future reference....
Is there much noticeable diff in performance between Street and Bridge porting? Im aiming to keep the Rotus road legal so there could be a compromise on out and out power vs drivability....
Is it worthy of different gearbox internals, I don't need a full on quaife set, but should I be installing a close ratio set with long first gear or are the standard ratios fine?
I don't know how many different ratios are available for the diff. Im thinking it may be worth buying a few diffs off ebay and get them rebuilt with different ratios, then its a few bolts to swap them over and being able to have a play with different set ups?
Interesting from Jons thread a comment that says that the Adaptronic ECU "doesnt give more power"
Im still pondering that one, as I have far from a standard set up, and I don't have Jons electrical knowledge to over come any issues.
Is an RX8 steering rack available in quick rack maybe 2.2 or 2.4 turns lock to lock, then again I don't know what the standard is......
Electric water pump???
I have a whole host of others like separate oil tanks with 2 stroke oil??? but as you know im still fannying about with fibreglass and Im not even at the stage of chucking a freshly built engine back in.....
Just rather it was "right" first time.
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So..... having read boat loads on Jons westory thread, few questions.... and Malcolm Im repeating myself so apologies....
Interesting to see the choice of wheels on Jons car play an important part, with the whole weight or lack of weight issue.
Im going with 17" steels so hopefully the slighter taller sidewall and a bit more weight will cure any unsettling.
Love the sock in the shifter hole, better than that blue gear stick! lol
So for future reference....
Is there much noticeable diff in performance between Street and Bridge porting? Im aiming to keep the Rotus road legal so there could be a compromise on out and out power vs drivability....
Is it worthy of different gearbox internals, I don't need a full on quaife set, but should I be installing a close ratio set with long first gear or are the standard ratios fine?
I don't know how many different ratios are available for the diff. Im thinking it may be worth buying a few diffs off ebay and get them rebuilt with different ratios, then its a few bolts to swap them over and being able to have a play with different set ups?
Interesting from Jons thread a comment that says that the Adaptronic ECU "doesnt give more power"
Im still pondering that one, as I have far from a standard set up, and I don't have Jons electrical knowledge to over come any issues.
Is an RX8 steering rack available in quick rack maybe 2.2 or 2.4 turns lock to lock, then again I don't know what the standard is......
Electric water pump???
I have a whole host of others like separate oil tanks with 2 stroke oil??? but as you know im still fannying about with fibreglass and Im not even at the stage of chucking a freshly built engine back in.....
Just rather it was "right" first time.
Well, I have heard that there is big differense in engines behaviour between street and bridge port. In paper, there is not much, but engine pick up and so on is much better.
Good bridge port can make really nice power. I reckon you can go with full bridge. Aux ports and those valves basically determines how much that engine makes in top end. As for drivebilety, those aux ports opens in high revs, so I dont think it matters in street use...
If your car stays light, 6 speed box is good enough. As Jon said, gear rations at those things are great. 5speed box is basically same that FD has, so that wont brake. However, in paper, I dont know if those rations suits your car.
There is few options for diff rations. Unfortunately, I think it is 4.88, is that one that everyone want so they cost quite alot
As for ecu, Renny ecu is actually quite amazing. Really clever and adaptive. You can "flash" it with some mazda software
I would go electric water pump definetly. Remember, if engine is red hot, for some reason it stops, water flows thru it still..
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Thanks for your input jarno , I need to start planing all this stuff out now
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Not sure, if anyone has used this before, but I find this extremely useful at times.
https://www.willtheyfit.com/
pop your existing wheel / tyre package in, and then your new proposed package and it spits out a whole load of helpful info.
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.......anddddd
the colours are Mazda 787.........
im turning into such an anorak !
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Use that all the time :)
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Gud innit ?
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First of the front moulds,
smaller but more complicated, hence the 3 parts
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Just picked up on this.
Is there much noticeable diff in performance between Street and Bridge porting?
With a properly Bridged Renesis the car will drive like a stock car till around 6800 then take off again like it has a small turbo fitted.
Is it worthy of different gearbox internals, I don't need a full on quaife set, but should I be installing a close ratio set with long first gear or are the standard ratios fine?
Maybe worth know that the 5 speed box will dump a lot of weight out of the car and without looking 1st is a longer gear. Next, although expensive fitting a 4.7 dif ratio (R3 Ratio) will not only help the car but close the gears up, effectively making a closer ratio box.
Interesting from Jons thread a comment that says that the Adaptronic ECU "doesnt give more power"
May not give more power but with the ability to tune the car would have better mid range power which in turn will push the car up the road faster.
Is an RX8 steering rack available in quick rack maybe 2.2 or 2.4 turns lock to lock, then again I don't know what the standard is......
Lock to Lock Turns (Steering):2.99 / I converted my rack to a non power rack to dump weight and get more feel (driver feed back)
Electric water pump???
I have used one since the race car was built, great bit of kit plus you can leave it on for a while after a run to let everything cool nicely
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Thanks for the info Clive :icon_thumleft:
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For future reference, which model was the 5 speed fitted to?
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I'm in agreement on the power steering rack, it does weigh a tonne and doubtful I'll need ps in a light car, I have a spare rack, so I could have a play.
It there any conversion kits or is is literally remove weight from the right places with tools?
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For future reference, which model was the 5 speed fitted to?
RX-8 Low power version (192). You can find them from your scrappers really cheap
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For future reference, which model was the 5 speed fitted to?
RX-8 Low power version (192). You can find them from your scrappers really cheap
Thanks jarno, just took a punt on one on eBay, already paid, 70 quid, bargain , could be collecting tomorrow
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Can't find any later R3 diffs,
I'm assuming, the 4.7 crown wheel/ring gear and pinion are interchangeable between housings? I'll try n get a complete diff, coz that will be cheaper initially
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Those R3 are very wanted. I reckon you need time and luck to get one
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Morning,
Yes the CWP's are fully interchangeable.
For the rack, I posted my conversion with pictures around a year ago in my race car thread.
You need to chop the magnets off and make an adaptor to stop the screw being able to operate, pop the tin cover off and all will became apparent.
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Thanks Clive I’ll take a peek, stripping my spare rack will be a nice break from fibreglass
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Clive / Jon
Can you give any advice on which standard flywheel, clutch pressure plate combo I need to be using with the 5 speed box, or whether there is any special components required?
Thanks
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Will be over to Clive...std fit was exedy...Clive sells exedy 1s...
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Ok cool, I'll wait for Clives words of wisdom
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So .......
Not bad for a mornings work, complete front and rear end and calipers as spares.
Cousin needs the subframes back to make a jig, then he is gonna "bin them" in case anybody needs a subframe?
*coughJonRX8rearendwestfieldcough*
Im guessing the gear stick hole pokes through the car in the same place as the 6 speed, or am I making a bent knitting needle gear stick?
It dawned on me this morning, when I chat to Jon about mods to get the car ready he saves me money, when I chat to Clive, my wallet hurts. LOL!!
Its all good in the hood :icon_thumleft:
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Ha ha...yeah im a tight arse...ive got boxes of half used brake pads...i pretty much never thrown anything away and im always in the skip at work...but when it matters i shell out.
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Thanks mate but i dont want the subframe...Westy is what she is...im just gonna drive as is.
So are you going for a lightweight flywheel now?
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Thanks mate but i dont want the subframe...Westy is what she is...im just gonna drive as is.
So are you going for a lightweight flywheel now?
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Good for you!
I was going off what you said the other night about welding an RX8 axle on the arse end.
I though it was a bad idea at the time, unless you can find a different disc caliper combo to fit over 15" alloys.
So..... youre looking for a yank tank back axle to cope with the RX7 power then? LOL
RE: lightened flywheel........ i was gonna stick with the stock one. Interestingly, talking with the cousin earlier he was saying he wanted a lightened flywheel for the track days becuase he found the revs were not dying down quickly enough when changing down because of the increased inertia...
Ill stick with stock for now, its something to possibly play with in the future if need be...... unless someone convinces me otherwise.
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now i have the moulds finished I got a sense of nervousness........
Its crunch time! I gotta start carving up a car. No pressure.
God I hope it works ! LOL
Im not overly confident :dontknow: :dontknow:
I could be settling for the below.
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With the quality of those moulds you will be fine.
Now you can really undress the car
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With the quality of those moulds you will be fine.
Now you can really undress the car
I'm not posting pics till it looks spot on
If it comes out gash, it's been nice knowing you all.
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RE: lightened flywheel........ i was gonna stick with the stock one. Interestingly, talking with the cousin earlier he was saying he wanted a lightened flywheel for the track days because he found the revs were not dying down quickly enough when changing down because of the increased inertia...
Just spotted this,
No no no. So many people get confused about light flywheels, 100% the inertia is decreased not increased.
First one I fitted to an RX-8 many years ago still leaves me with the impression that it was an improvement because it let the revs die faster allowing the next gear to be picked up quicker.
Even very early "engines" had BIG flywheels to make use of inertia to help stop things slowing down
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If it comes out gash, it's been nice knowing you all.
Ow, come on you have to show failing's as well as triumphs, just look at my Race car thread, there's some absolute horrors in the before the damn thing started behaving itself ;)
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If it comes out gash, it's been nice knowing you all.
Ow, come on you have to show failing's as well as triumphs, just look at my Race car thread, there's some absolute horrors in the before the damn thing started behaving itself ;)
The moulds don't bother me, it's cutting so much off the car, and not being able to brace the shell, and things moving about.
Hopefully the roll cage will keep things in check, as everything is tied back into the chassis.
I could try and weld some triangulation braces in here n there but I may have trouble arcing up lol
Just gonna tackle one corner at a time, slow n steady wins the race n all that.
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RE: lightened flywheel........ i was gonna stick with the stock one. Interestingly, talking with the cousin earlier he was saying he wanted a lightened flywheel for the track days because he found the revs were not dying down quickly enough when changing down because of the increased inertia...
Just spotted this,
No no no. So many people get confused about light flywheels, 100% the inertia is decreased not increased.
First one I fitted to an RX-8 many years ago still leaves me with the impression that it was an improvement because it let the revs die faster allowing the next gear to be picked up quicker.
Even very early "engines" had BIG flywheels to make use of inertia to help stop things slowing down
I think we're both arguing the same point here, but lost in translation or poor terminology.
It's one for a face to face discussion one day.
So..... The burning question
The 5 speed box.... Do I keep the 231 flywheel, is there any difference from the 192 version, and if I keep the larger 6 speed clutch, will the shaft on the 5 speed still engage, or do I need a different clutch plate?
I need to drive the car first before I can decide on lightened flywheels. It all comes back to whether I can maintain identity of an Elan for the purpose of a road vehicle, and not have to go down the IVA route.
The design features on a 70s car are unlikely to pass all the criteria within IVA/SVA.
I'm not going to waste time bringing a car up to a level to pacify some numpty who makes decisions in Brussels, I'm aware of my building capabilities, I know I can build a car that's safe to be on the road. I know we have to have standards to prevent cars being built from wattle n daub and chicken wire, but the IVA is sooo strict these days and is slowly preventing home builders building cars at home. Bloody Belgians .
So if I can't, it's all out track day weapon.
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Real simple this one, keep the bigger 231 flywheel and clutch assembly and the 5 speed will bolt in as a direct swap. Prop and gearbox wiring is the same the only thing you will need is the gear leaver to go with the 5 speed gear box as the 6 speed leaver is different.
Hope this helps.
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I agree with Clive
But flywheel, I wouldnt go with lighter one. Thats the only thing that keeps Rennys torque in decent numbers.
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Real simple this one, keep the bigger 231 flywheel and clutch assembly and the 5 speed will bolt in as a direct swap. Prop and gearbox wiring is the same the only thing you will need is the gear leaver to go with the 5 speed gear box as the 6 speed leaver is different.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for that Clive :icon_thumleft:, Ive sourced one at the weekend via "Big Pete"? I guess hes BIG. lol.
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I agree with Clive
But flywheel, I wouldnt go with lighter one. Thats the only thing that keeps Rennys torque in decent numbers.
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Ive heard good and bad for both lightened and stock, Im gonna keep it stock for now, its not a huge task to swap it out at a later date.
I need to get a feel for the car, everything is new, suspension, the geometry, wheels/ tyres, there are going to some bits I like and some bits I don't.
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Is this what it looks like in GRP heaven?
Nice to see a baby Elan, a Europa, and a plus 2 like mine all side by side, same era yet very different cars.
Colin Chapman should have utilized the rotary years ago !
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I agree with Clive
But flywheel, I wouldnt go with lighter one. Thats the only thing that keeps Rennys torque in decent numbers.
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Ive heard good and bad for both lightened and stock, Im gonna keep it stock for now, its not a huge task to swap it out at a later date.
I need to get a feel for the car, everything is new, suspension, the geometry, wheels/ tyres, there are going to some bits I like and some bits I don't.
I agree 
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Ive sourced one at the weekend via "Big Pete"? I guess hes BIG. lol
Errrr quite the opposite, knee high to a grasshopper, but don't tell him I said so. :)) :))
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OK guys, I apologise in advance, more stupid questions, but in my defence, If I ask Q? im a fool for 5 mins, if I dont ask Im a fool forever!
So, been on RBE web site and looking at Electric Water Pumps. Happy with the concept, and like the look of the additional LCD controller, will look ace sat behind the steering wheel as all the rest of the gauges are in the middle of the dash....
Anyway
1, The Davies Craig controller will control the stock fan set up? as well as the pump.
2, see photo, Im assuming behind my hand and the hose is the thermostat?
3, If i remove the entire stock water pump and use the blanking plate from RBE, will the thermostat housing and pipework inlets and outlets for the rad and heater disappear with the pump? i.e. its all one casting
4, if so, what is the best way to get the water back into the engine?
5, if I remove the stock water pump (weight saving :icon_thumleft:) is a ribbed belt available for the lower pulley and alternator?
Diff topic
6, I think i read somewhere, that you should use mineral oil as semi and fully synthetic fouls plugs. If I run a sperate tank just with 2 stroke oil in for lubricating inside the rotor housings, is it then beneficial to use semi or fully synthetic for lubricating the E shaft?
7, if my assumptions in Q6 correct can any one send any pics or links showing the set up?
8, is this the preffered method, by running a seperate oil tank, or did I just dream that up?
Thanks guys.......still feel like a fool lol
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If it comes out gash, it's been nice knowing you all.
Ow, come on you have to show failing's as well as triumphs, just look at my Race car thread, there's some absolute horrors in the before the damn thing started behaving itself ;)
I've done jarno's and jon's threads ..........time for Clives, on page 66 so far........... Got paid for 90 mins today to get educated......yes you've had issues, you're carrying out something that's not been done before........I know that feeing
We certainly put ourselves through the wars, westory, fd in an 8, Rotus.........as the saying goes, "if it was easy, everyone would do it"
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If it comes out gash, it's been nice knowing you all.
Ow, come on you have to show failing's as well as triumphs, just look at my Race car thread, there's some absolute horrors in the before the damn thing started behaving itself ;)
I've done jarno's and jon's threads ..........time for Clives, on page 66 so far........... Got paid for 90 mins today to get educated......yes you've had issues, you're carrying out something that's not been done before........I know that feeing
We certainly put ourselves through the wars, westory, fd in an 8, Rotus.........as the saying goes, "if it was easy, everyone would do it"
Check out my Bro´s built too ;D http://mazdarotaryclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=70663.0
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Will do Kaveri :icon_thumleft:
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OK guys, I apologise in advance, more stupid questions, but in my defence, If I ask Q? im a fool for 5 mins, if I dont ask Im a fool forever!
So, been on RBE web site and looking at Electric Water Pumps. Happy with the concept, and like the look of the additional LCD controller, will look ace sat behind the steering wheel as all the rest of the gauges are in the middle of the dash....
Anyway
1, The Davies Craig controller will control the stock fan set up? as well as the pump.
2, see photo, Im assuming behind my hand and the hose is the thermostat?
3, If i remove the entire stock water pump and use the blanking plate from RBE, will the thermostat housing and pipework inlets and outlets for the rad and heater disappear with the pump? i.e. its all one casting
4, if so, what is the best way to get the water back into the engine?
5, if I remove the stock water pump (weight saving :icon_thumleft:) is a ribbed belt available for the lower pulley and alternator?
Diff topic
6, I think i read somewhere, that you should use mineral oil as semi and fully synthetic fouls plugs. If I run a sperate tank just with 2 stroke oil in for lubricating inside the rotor housings, is it then beneficial to use semi or fully synthetic for lubricating the E shaft?
7, if my assumptions in Q6 correct can any one send any pics or links showing the set up?
8, is this the preffered method, by running a seperate oil tank, or did I just dream that up?
Thanks guys.......still feel like a fool lol
There are no stupid questions
Here is my few stupid answers:
1: I actually dont know can it control stock fan. I reckon that there will be some difficulties cause stock ecu is quite clever, you have to overwrite it somehow
2: Thermostat should be under upper neck of waterpump
3: There is neck adapters for removing stock water pump. However, you have to figure out how to do modify whole cooling/heating system. And you need new thermostat to control it
4:From that adapter, water goes back to engine. If I remember correctly, from left water goes out, from right water comes in
5:Dunno for sure, but removing that pulley, doesent matter. For alternator and you can use just one belt, straight from lower pulley
6:I dont know, there is so much different opinions
7:Im not sure how Rennys OMP works, but I reckon it doesen matter.
8: You can just block of normal oil feed to OMP and get that oil from seperate oil tank
Hopefully this help abit ;D
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There are no stupid questions Well done Jarno, the Club was founded on this :bravo_2:.
When MRC was formed there was only really the RX7 Club forum in America to turn to and at the time if you asked a question they presumed you should know they would call you stupid! Not Good!
Anyway, Water pump, I have run this electric pump on the race car, plus we sell quite a few of these with no reported issues.
The plate for the RX-8 water pump just removes the pump leaving the water hose connections in place.
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Yeah, I never liked US forums. If you ask something, imidiatelly someone cals you an idiot... And there is no way else to do things, you cant question some methods...
Everyone starts somewhere. We all have much to learn. Thats why its important to share knowledge. And question methods to do stuff.
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Guys,
Both hands up if Ive ruffled anyones feathers here....
Im not suggesting people who ask questions are stupid, or certainly don't want to portray an image that this is a forum where you cant ask questions..
... I was merely being self deprecating.
So sincere apologies
J
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Yep deffo got the share the knowledge , there are no stupid questions,, i knew nothing couple of years ago and still got most of it left lol..
Different opinions on solutions to problem is cool what ever works....Both Clive and me suffered on track oil surge at the start of our projects and between us came up with various solutions good and bad nothing on the internet...so dont worry about asking Qs.
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Absolutely no need to apologise Jamie - there are no stupid questions on here. We don't ridicule anyone for asking any question - unless it's Clive, because he knows it all, so shouldn't need to ask ;) :))
Banter, but not ridicule :13:
I purchased TWO (I must be mad!) 36 year old Mazda Rotaries, both potentially heading off to be scrapped, because I knew if I ran into trouble getting them back on the road, there would be help available on friendly forums like this. I'm certainly no technical expert, but love to learn, and help others where I can.
I never use the US forums as I've seen the ridicule on there :(
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What a day!
Up the Walsh, dithering cold, come home mid afternoon and layed up 2 rear wings in the moulds!
Happy Chappy....
Motorsport weekend with tomorrow, new faces in unfamiliar places :occasion14:
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Great to meet you today Jamie and Emma!
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Great to meet you today Jamie and Emma!
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Like wise ole bean :icon_thumleft:
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I stayed abit longer as the R35 gtr went out...1.02...it was insane.
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Was that the blue one that was parked near the Camp entrance toilet???
1.02? sheeeeeeet !
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Today has made me itching to get mine finished....... Emma said, pull ya finger out then!
I said you moan at the hours i put in now ! No pleasing some people
............. long way to go yet........ i need to stop making it look pretty and focus on it being purposeful
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Yep need a stallion not a show pony...
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What about somewhere in between? Lol
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Yep ok..
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Yep ok..
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Good, I'm bored of chrome anyway
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So....
Laid up the last of the fibreglass tonight on the 2 front wings.......
Suspense was killing me, so we demoulded the offside rear wing.
Jon the father in law showing off the weeks of hard graft.
Day off tomorrow, Saturday morning will be cutting the originals off and grafting on the new wings.....
*fingers crossed*
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Result looks very smart!
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Thanks Jon,
Long way to go yet.....
Cutting up the original shell will be crunch time
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Looking good mate, keep it up

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Thanks Kaveri.
When I was welding and fabricating I missed fibreglass......
God I’m sick of it now lollll
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Wonderful that you have your father in law helping :great:
I do actually understand what its taking to make all this happen as the car in the picture was designed and built from scratch by myself and a friend of mine in the early 1980's.
The whole car bar the roof was fiberglass, we even made the car longer and never got caught, the extra length was because I had the rear axle 3" back further than stock to make the car more stable. Proud to say I won a lot of races in that car
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He does a few days a week, has done since the start of the project.
He tried to restore a couple of mg’s back in the 80s but for various reasons he never had the time or the money to finish them.
He loves it, as he never had the opportunity.
It can be frustrating at times because I know in my head how I want to build it and the process involved, but he just asks a million questions which I don’t mind, but he asks the same the next day bless him.
Wouldn’t change him for the world tho, it’s like help the community. Lol. All joking aside, it comes in handy having a spare pair of hands and he gets to see his daughter more frequently which is good since the big C. And he makes a brill coffee.
He is looking forward to jdm.
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Best he asks questions.
I taught two apprentices over the years and used to instil in them, "ASK" as its the questions that they don't ask and just plough on that screws things up ::)
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Wonderful that you have your father in law helping :great:
I do actually understand what its taking to make all this happen as the car in the picture was designed and built from scratch by myself and a friend of mine in the early 1980's.
The whole car bar the roof was fiberglass, we even made the car longer and never got caught, the extra length was because I had the rear axle 3" back further than stock to make the car more stable. Proud to say I won a lot of races in that car
376 clive??
Without sounding suggestive or ageist, with your racing career, you been around the block a few times lol
The q? don't bother me, but he is forgetful bless him.
Yeah I can screw things up on my own, I don't need him doing the same lol
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Best he asks questions.
I taught two apprentices over the years and used to instil in them, "ASK" as its the questions that they don't ask and just plough on that screws things up ::)
If you fancy a bit of "sport"
When I introduce him at JDM you can ask if he is the apprentice? hahaha
He very laid back like your good self
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376 clive??
You been around the block a few times lol
You could say that, I started racing cars when I was 16!
376 this was from a formula called National Hot Rods (NHRPA)
The numbering system went national so no two drivers turned up at the same event with the same number.
The first number dictated the promoter you raced for,
Great thing about that racing was, no entry fees, traveling expenses plus proper prize money to go with the trophy's.
A lot of circuit drivers came from this formula / Martin Brundell, Derek Warwick, Rob Collard, Matt Simpson, Colin White to name a few.
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Serious jobs call for serious PPE !!
No turning back now boys !!!!
Good to see that steel sill member was still in one piece when i removed them to be powdercoated last year.
Back to it............
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Easy boot access
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Ohhh serious now....
Hate cutting fibreglass...smells horrible and goes everywhere...
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Wow, I've been away for a week and drop back in to see you (and your apprentice ;)) have made some great progress.
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How much does she weigh...theres not much steel in the rear?
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Ok offered up the new wing,
dont fit perfect, needs some fettling, but i can work with it. All expansion and contraction has gone on somewhere.
How much does what weigh Jon? no steel in the back apart from the sill member.
............ Chat later guys. off to Wales to buy a new car ! :13: ( good for towing Jon lol )
SooooooBaaaaaaRooooooooo
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Dugga dugga dugga good luck
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Sold! to the man with the beard!
Well deposit left anyway.
Should see the rest of his collection
Nissan Skyline R32
Mazda MX5 Mk2.5 I think
Tommi Makkinen (Spell check) Mitsi Evo
2 x Peugeot 205 GTI 1.9
and...
Mazda RX7 Bathurst R
Every one white.......
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Sweet..whens pick up?
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Um... its Tommi Mäkinen... ;)
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Tommi mak drove for Mitsubishi..
Its Jamie Burns or Jamie Mcrae...
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Sweet..whens pick up?
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Next week fingers crossed.
A couple of blemishes (supermarket car park injuries) my local dent doctor could probably sort.
Really nice white pearl, looks great in the sun, some odd tv thing going on in the car, pops out the dash with ignition, all Panasonic stuff, its Japanese sat nav and there like tv aerial stickers at the top of the windscreen n that, it's most odd
I've no idea if I can covert it to work in uk.........
It's so quiet and refined, even with the hammer down, could benefit from a SS cat back, no knocks or rattles from the mechanicals, no creaks from the interior, upholstery is like its from the factory.
Felt quicker than 280 horses but then I was on a single track cliff side road in back of beyond.
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Radio band is diff in Japan can get an extender but prob just get uk radio there so cheap nowadays...unsure on sat nav...
Gonna be a subaru forum for that me thinks.
Any idea when cambelt done?
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Cam belt done at 60k
Currently on 83, no leaks or signs of leaks from rocker cover gaskets
speedo conversion done, dintrinol all the underside...... It's def clean example
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Cool...uk its 45k miles interval on the cambelt on 2.0. When i done mine it came off perfect. Other countrys have longer intervals on identical engines bit bizarre...
Bit of clutch judder on cold mornings normal just needs a few more revs til warm. Has it got a kepad immobilser? If so ive got the instructions for changing to a pin of your choice.
4 pot calipers on front?
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Nope no keypad thingy,
I checked the car over first before starting, it was definately cold, just key in.
Didn't notice any four pots but then I wasn't looking, he did say he changed the pads n discs on front and it seemed cheap, it was 109 quid or 190 all in, it def started with a 1, I wasn't paying attention.Did say a lot of the parts like that are transferable between uk spec.
Def got the factory fitted bilsteins, they look like forest stage spec struts, 40mm stanchions
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Tommi mak drove for Mitsubishi..
Its Jamie Burns or Jamie Mcrae...
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Tommi drove Scooby too
his last team, Solberg was his apprentice
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Yeah but Mcrae actually drove a legacy in rallying...
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Ladies please!
Just want an estate to take stuff to the tip lollllll
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Besides jarno doesn't like dolphins lollllllllll
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Leave the tailgate open..drive there scooby style...wont have to unload.
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Sounds like a plan
unless i lose my load on the dual track lol
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In case you were confused about dolphins.....
Jarno posted on FB about a FIAT X19 and facebook didnt tranlate very well.
See below for translation
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So...........
Offered up the wing on Saturday.........didnt go well....... didnt like the fancy brackets I bought, but they were for steel panels.
Made some crap brackets at work and literally screwed the new wing on, to the body......feathered the joins down ready to bond it with GRP.
A couple of dodgy cuts, but nothing that cant be cured, just as well Im not trying to weld it on.
Either way up, it fits, its on, more fibreglassing !!!! grrrrrrrrrrr
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Well despite the lack of gel coat on the join, it almost looks like it grew there.
Cant do anymore this side of Monday.
Off to Czech Republic in the morning, without getting too graphic, someone has a red hot date with a turkey baster.
If I see any rotaries on my travels ill post them, but ive not seen one in the last 4 trips, its all Skodas and Audis ( apologies for my foul language)
See you on the other side.
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Yep looks good pretty oem looking to the untrained eye.
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Got a weeks worth of tidying up, gel coat, flatting back, reinforcing layer on the inside once the wheel is off. Inner arches after. Oh yeah, that X 4
I miss my welder lol
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Yeah but it looks good!
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Back in Blighty, no rotaries as predicted. :(
Did spend a whole weekend of drinking wheat beer, eating a tonne of pork, sleeping in the day, watching 15 episodes of shooter on Netflix. Been to Brno so many times now I've done all the sights. I use the trip to recharge the batteries and put on weight.
Two days off work now to catch up on shed time.......
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Decisions, decisions.......
Im gonna be changing my mind more than Jon at this rate.
I cant find the Mazda Mandarin Orange colour code anywhere
Yesterday I preferred the far left, today I prefer far right, the middle one looks "muddy"
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Far left my opinion...
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Far left my opinion...
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Like wise
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Focus ST orange for abit of sparkle...
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Sorry bud, no metallics or pearls.......
Im sticking with solids, easier for me to do at home and its more in the era of the original car.
The far left is Lamborghini Arancio Ymir
The far right is Chrysler Crush
Middle one some VW thingy
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Cracking on
Offside rear inner arch done.
Couple of gel coat repairs to do.
Chopped the nearside pattern off.
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Just had this pop up on facebook!
Ahhh I miss those days...... not necessarily better........but definitely less itchy
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Goofing around on CAD during lunch........
Could be a rotor shaped hole template for various bits......
I feel more pattern making and fibreglass ahead lol
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;D ;D ;D like it :)
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Welp, the gel goat is on the join of the last rear wing........
Keep fannying about with the gel coat on the first one, rather than cracking on and worrying about the aesthethics when its time for shell prep.
Anyhow, progress is progress.
I used to be in disbelief when some of these custom car builders say they can easily put a 1000 hours of prep in before laying colour down.
I can believe it now, and ive not gone anywhere near filler primer...... jeeez louise
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Ok both rears fitted, not gonna worry about flatting down gel coat yet. Just get them on!
Fronts have commenced....... cutting the front off was more tricky with the cockpit walls to contend with.
I can get a decent shot of the complexity of the headers now...... still more welding to do on them when the engine comes out.
And knowing what I do now since joining this forum, i'll definately be coating the headers in Zircotec Ceramic stuff.
I even had Bailey helping me today which is completely unheard of .....so Im posting a pic as living proof coz if I told anyone we knew they wouldnt believe me.!
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More progress!
Starting to graft the first wing on with GRP, always looks messy at this stage, but the crappy brackets work well in lining the panel up to the car.
Then I decided to cut out the boot floor comprising of the original spare wheel well and exhaust tunnel, all of which is no good for my application.
This is making way for the new exhaust routing but more importantly, gaining the right angle for the diffuser at the right length to exit the car.
The raduised exit of the diffuser will blend into a rear bumper as well making the whole part look cohesive.
Flat aluminium floor from the front splitter to the rear diffuser looks a simple task.
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Looks like the resin has effected you...
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;D ;D Really liking the last pic :))
Great to see still more progress :13:
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Well ........ I did say from day 1 that I wasn’t normal lol
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How about taking that a stage further and a Britax L78 https://www.beaconsandlightbars.co.uk/Britax-L78-series-Rear-LED-Combination-LightPN-L14.11.12.html
So Kev,
took your advice, and purchased!
Thanks for the heads up, they dont list these on eBay
J
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Theres something quite satisfying about getting up at stupid oclock on a saturday.........
....... copious amounts of coffee, Moby on the jukebox, sandpaper, GRP, repairs, dust........
..... rain hammering down.
Gotta go to work today to modify the wider Kirkey seat I got for Emma bum ! its like a throne!
Needs some chopping and TIG welding, cant get it in the car.
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All being well the shape of the lights work with the finished build............if not blame me I don't mind.
I wish I was up early car playing its up early working on the house extension for me so no Rx's for a good few months yet, I've got the Tesla though so that's fulfilling the adrenaline rush requirement for now.
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Ah there’s no blame Kev.
Me and the FIL looked at all the lights available, cut cardboard templates of the size n shape and those fitted the best.
Next weekend I’m making the wooden buck to mould the buckets for them to sit it in. It’s all systems go.
I ordered them online and the place is about 12 minutes from my house lol
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You've the patience of a Saint with all the custom fiberglass molding............... well done, its a pleasure to watch the progress.
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LOL I question that myself sometimes..........
I could go watch football, play golf or do summat decent like build a car :icon_thumleft:
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Glad youre enjoying the build Kev .....
Well positive and productive weekend.
Fitting of the last wing today, got a 2mm twist out the mould, the inner wings will cure that.
Trial fitting of the boot lid since the new rears went on...... got a 5mm gap tapering down to 3mm on the sides.
I put that down to 70's build quality build tolerances, being fibreglass and it being a Lotus lol. Its the same on both sides.
Build up with some gel coat n sand back.
Modded the "throne" for the better half.
Was looking back at the build process yesterday, started the wings with the wooden wheels on 21st Feb, so thats a month a corner!
Patience of an idiot more like Kev,
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Those seats look a little hard and uncomfortable ;) ;)
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youll be surprised how comfortable they are, its the day after :great:
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Those seats look a little hard and uncomfortable ;) ;)
They're not too bad actually, you can buy the Kirkey padding but it's almost as expensive as the seats, but as I've modded them, the standard stuff won't fit.
Looks like bespoke padding as well.
Emma comes with hers built in lol shhhhh
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Well!
End of an era....... sorry its been a boring topic and its not working with the rotors, but today is a huge achievement for me and FIL as weve never done this before.
Ive trowelled the gel coat on the last wing, in readiness for tarting it all up and getting it as smooth as i can before it gets filler primer.
Lots of divets to go round the car and fill in but rather use gel coat than body filler at this stage.
Structurally all the wings are sorted, just cosmetic stuff.
Whats next I hear you ask...........
Well I thought I had finished fibreglassing and was moving on to mechanical stuff, but the rear lights turned up today, so Ill be making the buckets for those so they can be frenched into the bodywork.
Ah well, metal work soon !
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I can see the lotus purist winching at them rear led lights.....you gotta take it to combe lotus day!!! :icon_thumleft:
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I'd love to turn up to that.....
However I think they would wince more at the fact that the roof, boot lid and doors are the only bits that are as they left Norfolk lol
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Really taking shape nicely Jamie, great work :notworthy:
BTW is this a Lotary car? ;D
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Lol
Nope Rotus Wankelan
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Looks good :sign0098:
Btw, I like this thread, nice to see some doing his car from ground up basically, and doing something different :great:
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Awww fanx princess
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First tail light bucket off the mould tonight.....
Made a plywood former, shaped, primed, sanded, waxed.
I hammered 2 x cut down panel pins with the spike pointing up.
When I lay the glass over the top it will produce 2 x drill starts in the product, saves marking it out for the mounting holes, and its repeatable for the other side.
More cutting of the shell to graft in the new buckets.
Another productive evening, we like that.
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Ow, come on, we want to see what they look like on the car :)
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Sorry that's as far as I've got, I'll upload more this week when I've made more progress
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Here ya go Clive....
Not got all the rads blended in on the edges of the buckets, but theyre on.
Im back to fitting the exhaust again............ I need to rethink that too.
Ive learned a lot since joining this forum, and I need to re-route the pipe work near the diff. Ive never been 100% happy.
So I have a question. I have a resonator fitted as youll see on the last pic, but its going to hit the floor and annoy me so that needs relocating too.
Does anyone know if there is an optimum place for a resonator to be positioned in relation to the silencer and the headers? Can it go just before the silencer?
Thanks in advance
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Looks awesome, good job mate :sign0098:
But one thing comes to mind, heat control. Rotarys generates lots of heat. You have to figure out how to get that heat out of engine bay. Also, under floor, seems a tight fit. Hopefully it wont melt that classfibre...
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Cheers bud
Zircotec the headers and decat pipe.
Everything else is exhaust wrap and self adhesive ceramic sheet.
Some NACA ducts on the underfloor feeding air into the exhaust tunnel
I don't have many options, this car is tiny. There is zero room.
The only other thing I can do is run the pipe straight out the bonnet and put some flaps on the ends like the vertical stacks on the American trucks lol
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Here ya go jarno.
Check it out
https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+custom+cars&client=safari&channel=ipad_bm&prmd=ivsn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiko8H89fniAhWSmFwKHeXEAhYQ_AUoAXoECAsQAQ&biw=768&bih=928#imgrc=USjPHKUE2drj6M
https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/your-guide-to-the-japanese-car-culture-54990_1.jpg
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Here ya go jarno.
Check it out
https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+custom+cars&client=safari&channel=ipad_bm&prmd=ivsn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiko8H89fniAhWSmFwKHeXEAhYQ_AUoAXoECAsQAQ&biw=768&bih=928#imgrc=USjPHKUE2drj6M
https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/your-guide-to-the-japanese-car-culture-54990_1.jpg
Oh crap 
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Cheers bud
Zircotec the headers and decat pipe.
Everything else is exhaust wrap and self adhesive ceramic sheet.
Some NACA ducts on the underfloor feeding air into the exhaust tunnel
I don't have many options, this car is tiny. There is zero room.
The only other thing I can do is run the pipe straight out the bonnet and put some flaps on the ends like the vertical stacks on the American trucks lol
Ok, I see. Then there should be no problem 
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I've only experience with turbo motors, 3 inch systems and quite a bit of overlap so strong exhaust pulses Jamie but on those the resonator seems to work best around 24inch from the downpipe. My default system now tends to be a flexi section right behind the downpipe into the resonator the pics of a larger 1 into 2 resonator system but you'll get the idea.
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OK cheers Kev,
Ill do some "googling" on NA systems too
YOUR lights........ "turned out nice mother"
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Looking at the pictures, I would Zircotec as much as you can afford at least the system from the engine block to under the car, especially where it goes through the body. BTW beautiful pipe work :great:
Not sure if you have done much research on Zircotec but the coating is not to be confused with any other form of coatings which people often do.
I had my manifold, Turbo and down pipe coated. I am going to get the current Turbo coated like the old one was because even after a race you could almost lay your bare hand onto the housing!
Also have a look at Zircotec Zircoflex Form Rigid Formable Heat Shield as this kept my feet nice and cool in my footwell last weekend.
I actually blistered my foot at Brands through my race boot and wish I would have used it sooner.
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Bugger, I forgot to say, I like that pipe work too

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I've only experience with turbo motors, 3 inch systems and quite a bit of overlap so strong exhaust pulses Jamie but on those the resonator seems to work best around 24inch from the downpipe. My default system now tends to be a flexi section right behind the downpipe into the resonator the pics of a larger 1 into 2 resonator system but you'll get the idea.
What size down pipe? I have to figure out that resonator thing too. What DB your car has?
Btw, that turbo looks big 
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Looking at the pictures, I would Zircotec as much as you can afford at least the system from the engine block to under the car, especially where it goes through the body. BTW beautiful pipe work :great:
Not sure if you have done much research on Zircotec but the coating is not to be confused with any other form of coatings which people often do.
I had my manifold, Turbo and down pipe coated. I am going to get the current Turbo coated like the old one was because even after a race you could almost lay your bare hand onto the housing!
Also have a look at Zircotec Zircoflex Form Rigid Formable Heat Shield as this kept my feet nice and cool in my footwell last weekend.
I actually blistered my foot at Brands through my race boot and wish I would have used it sooner.
Yeah, that's the plan. Mainly on the headers because they come upwards on my application, right next to the chassis so that will have the powdercoat melted off it, and the solenoids on the intake manifold, and the OMP stuff is really close, and the steering column, and, and ,and.
The decat pipe was either ceramic coating, or that yellow rigid stuff you shown, formed in a U channel and bolted to the bulkhead with the open end facing upwards and it will protect the belhousing and intake from the exhaust. Then some vents in the bonnet.
There are lots of options really. I could even combine heat protection i.e. exhaust wrap + heat shield. I know on the RE Amemiya 20b Lotus Europa he lined the bay with gold coated panels as that's a good reflector of heat.
Im a long way from all that to be fair, once the shell is painted I will be going belt n braces on the heat side. Im always thinking 3 or 4 steps ahead on all the stuff I do, (easy when youre an over thinker like me lol, screws up my personality tho) .... if I make this what else does it affect? yadda yadda...... where I fall down is my lack of knowledge on rotarys.... that's where you all come in :icon_thumleft:
Thanks for the nod on the pipes, thankfully I don't need to redo the engine bay, just the stuff under the floor and near the diff. I really need to find out about the resonator and relocate that. Im buying some more pipe and bends today. I need to hack some more GRP floor away, but its under the fuel tank.... lol don't panic.
Oh and because of the diffuser, the tailpipe will be side exit, driver side so I can see any flames in the mirror lol.
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Bugger, I forgot to say, I like that pipe work too 
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Chill Kaveri ! its all good :icon_thumleft:
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Been carving up the floor and exhaust atmo.
Ill show the old system first, its a bit pants........
......in my infinite wisdom I thought Id flatten the pipe into an oval and pass it under the chassis....
well ive gone off that idea.
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So ive carved all that up, fired the TIG welder and did it properly.....
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Missed one
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Looks awesome.
But your feets are going to burn 
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Lol mine won't, I'll be on the drivers side :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft:
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Can anybody recommend a good brand of silencer that's not over the dB limit for trackdays and on the road etc?
My local stainless exhaust place makes them, but I don't think they are repackable.
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Thats another evening sacrificed to the exhaust Gods.
Sigh
1 cut, 4 burns
Things you do to miss a differential
I feel a boat load of welding coming on
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DAMN! :sign0098:
Flight here to build my exhaust asap! :))
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Would if I could lol
Got no holiday left :(
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Jon,
just phoned Torque Technique (who made your silencer). Lady on the phone said they were no longer trading as of yesterday.
..........sounded like bad news as if "Mick" wasn't in a good way.
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Oh dear was only him and his wife think he was in his sixties, hopefully ok.
I dont know of any other places.
Other than Topgear Stockport who custom make rx7 exhaust rather expensive.
Maybe give Clive a bell.
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Ive tried Tony Law exhausts in Leeds and CSK exhausts, just waiting for an email response.
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I use these guys for exhaust components Jamie https://exhaustpartsuk.com
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Thanks Kev,
Not heard of these guys before, theyre close to home too.
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Ahhh insomnia!!
Where have you been lately, ive missed you !
Stuff to design, no point lying in bed all night.
Me n Emma were both lying in bed last night, i lied to her, she lied to me.......ba dum tish !
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Its when you sit there at 4 am and the air compressor kicks in and scares you to death !
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Wow, your Emma is understanding, you have an air compressor in your bedroom, :bravo_2:
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Hahaha that's another conversation of a more adult nature and not for this forum
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Slightly off topic..........
Got my wheels on the leggy refurbed today.....
same day service
dropped the car off at 9am
wheels off, tyres off, chemical strip, curbed rims repaired, baked, powder coat satin black, baked, clear lacquer, baked, tyres on, balanced and refitted.
£210 inc vat for all 4!!
Didnt even get my hands dirty
Happy days
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Been playing today on CAD. at work......
...... tweaking the floor, diffuser and silencer
Clive, steered away from the Simmons one only from the perspective that its not repackable.
Ive stole the idea of the size tho :icon_thumleft:
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Nice
looks brilliant
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Im hoping it looks better in the flesh! but fanx
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Speaking of extra wide kirkeys..............lol just finished mounting it, you peering through my shed window?
Severely modified, had to cut 6 " out the overall height because the exhaust tunnel has jacked it up.
And cut 3 of the 4 "wings" off to miss the centre console and so you can get in.
Gonna have to be create with the seat paddling and get the ergonomics right.
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Been putting stickers on the Leggy today.
A bit of "Faux" carbon fibre..........
A crap attempt to make a scuff plate.
I think I forgot to tell you....... cutting a long story short, I reversed into a lamp post about 2 weeks ago. spent more lime looking in the side mirros to avoid the parked cars and bang! lol
The top surface of the bumper squashed up and cracked the paint....pearl too :(
The main reason for the sticker is to prevent the paint lifting when I send it through the car wash.
Cheaper than a new bumper or a respray
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Can anyone help??
I intend on fitting the higher (rpm / Kw ) starter motor.
Can anyone advise what the optimum cranking amps are required from the battery.
I need the most capable battery in the smallest size, lightest available.
Thanks in advance.
J
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I can't help with the spec on the starter motor, but a popular choice for RX-8 owners (including me) is the Varta E23 battery:
https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/varta/e23/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwpPHoBRC3ARIsALfx-_Itmn_aA043LRnCYLwgNmDQaTcA0GfRgXpYlDlt2VN81gbv1_C59T4aAk8GEALw_wcB
CCA for this battery is 630A
Not a bad size for a Lead Acid battery, but obviously not light ;)
If you are into serious money and weight saving, then Clive can undoubtedly advise on a suitable super lightweight racing battery, similar to the on he uses in his race car. which you can pick up with a little finger, as they are so light :)
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Many thanks casey,
Its good to get an idea on a good typical spec in terms of CCA.
Im now going down a path of the Lithium Ion ones.
Ive seen that Clive runs a Ballistic EVO3......... been on their website and they say they are no longer trading as they cannot compete with chinese manufactured competitors.
A few on eBay America, but postage is daft from the US.
A shop very close to me sells the below, and the supplier is in the same town as the shop.
Yup expensive, but lighness is key with the car. Im not going to have the most powerful engine in the world, so taking on board Colin Chapmans philosophy of added lightness.
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We sold these USA made batterys for around 6 years, shame they got pushed out of the market.
This would be the equivalent to what I have on the Race car
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/273374166095
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Thanks Clive,
That was the one I was eyeing up,
Lots of other stuff gong on in the Rotus background atmo
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While I think about it, was it your good self who said koyo rads can be mounted 15 degrees from horizontal?
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Been busy boy!
Glassing the holes back up on the passenger floor to give clearance for the exhaust.
Wooden wheels have been back on to make the inner wheel arch liners.
Made them extra large so I can trim them back to suit the profile of the cars front bumper/nose cone.
Inner arches will have the oil coolers mounted to them with vents into the wheel wells.
Tacked together a new sub frame to mount the new Koyo so it misses all the proposed bodywork.
More glassing ahead to make ducting feeding air in and away from the rad.
At least I smell of welding today and not resin.
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Getting there, really starting to look like the car you must have visualised :great:
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Love the rad bracket. Awesome
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Well I’ve changed my mind this morning again on the body work for the front end. Lol
The top half of the nose cone will be fixed permanently to the body with an original bumper but stretched wider using 2.
And the lower half with all the ducting and splitter comes away with a join line hidden behind the bumper.
Think of it like a removable jaw lol
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Vintage car day at Shelsley today
Pics later...... sadly no rotarys
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Looking fab.
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Ok, who is feeling brave?
Who would like to hazard a guess at what Im making now???
And theyre not ultra lightweight engine mounts hahaha
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Nope no idea stared long enough at pics...
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Undertray for engine compartment ?????
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Undertray for engine compartment ?????
Evening stranger,
Nope, but your at the right end of the car
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Sound or heat insulation :dontknow:
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The first pieces of the new monster liquorice allsorts collection, no, OK i'll get my coat
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The first pieces of the new monster liquorice allsorts collection, no, OK i'll get my coat
Haha I like how your mind works
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Sound or heat insulation :dontknow:
Miles off, I'll post some more pics in the week
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I stared at the first piccy...thinking gonna struggle cutting that allly chequer with a wood saw....
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I stared at the first piccy...thinking gonna struggle cutting that allly chequer with a wood saw....
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Haha, the neighbors would appreciate the effort of that too at tea time lol
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Now ive had a thought....
Moulds for front light pods?
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Nope but you are very very close
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Anymore for anymore?
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Emmas new shoes...or brake ducts...
Or oil cooler ducts...mmm latter me thinks.
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Lol @ shoes
:sign0098: well done clever clogs, they're the outlet ducts / mounts for the oil coolers.
I know the size I need big end and the small end is 20% of the surface area of the big end to help the air speed up.
I know the length, and the convergence angle........
Easiest way I could think to make them was to make the volumetric shape of the inside where the air travels.
Sand all the rads in, smear it in filler, sand, prime, sand, wax, gel coat, GRP and voila, push the polystyrene out and I have a left and right hand finished product, no moulds required, the inside surface is nice n smooth.
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Sorry Guys,
The silence is killing me, I need to post summat even if its trivial.
Started the flat aluminium floor today, first piece in.
There will be a total of 6 aluminum sections for ease of fitment/removal and then the GRP splitter and diffuser.
The bent edges allow an easy join to the side sections, but "hopefully" the bottom edge of the vertical sections will create a vortex.
This should help prevent air rushing underneath from the sides and disrupting a 700mm wide channel of high velocity low pressure air which runs the entire length of the car.
Fingers crossed, but it can all go horribly wrong. Ive never designed and built aero like this. Ive done research on this its kinda thing past few months i need to stop being indecisive and flitting between different theories.
Build it, try it, test it.
If at first you dont succeed, suck some more seed !
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Good to see more Rotus action :great:
Just an observation as im no aero expert, but with the flat floor you have built, I think for stability you will a rear diffuser.
Also don't cover your gear box an diff from air flow as I know somebody who did this with his FD and had sensors fitted and found he was frying both units.
Hope this helps.
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Goes quiet now and then..
Nice floor bud! I did have a nice diffuser on the westy til it fell off lo.
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Good to see more Rotus action :great:
Just an observation as im no aero expert, but with the flat floor you have built, I think for stability you will a rear diffuser.
Also don't cover your gear box an diff from air flow as I know somebody who did this with his FD and had sensors fitted and found he was frying both units.
Hope this helps.
Evening Clive,
Yes diffuser already designed and is in the list of things to build.
Point taken on the gearbox and diff, NACA ducts are easy to fabricate, so can strategically position some of them.
Does the rx8 box and diff have sensors fitted? ? ?
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Goes quiet now and then..
Nice floor bud! I did have a nice diffuser on the westy til it fell off lo.
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Thanks Jon,
It's getting there, what do you mean it fell off? ? Lol
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100 mph...
Wind down the tunnel...turned the back off the car into a parachute blew it off, broke the rivets off. The air going down the tunnel needs an exit path at rear of car. Mind didnt have it.
On the gearbox there is a neutral switch and a reverse switch. The loom is on the end of the engine loom. This also has the rear 02 sensor on it.
Rear 02 and reverse switch if you dont want reverse lights can be done away. Neutral switch can be done away with but may be cause idle to hunt. Easy way is to map an 1100 rpm idle which sorts the hunt and also brings up idle oil pressure which at 850 rpm is naff all...i had about 10 psi of oil pressure @ 100deg C oil temp idling in pits, 1100 rpm good 20psi plus.
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Thanks Jon, font of knowledge as always.
Just going back to the diffuser topic.. I'm certainly far from an expert but doing a lot of research lately , the stability from the diffuser is offered by the downforce it produces
When a flat floor transitions into the diffuser, it's as that point where the most downforce is produced. Race car builders will want to start the transition as close to the middle of the car as possible. So a percentage of the downforce will have an effect to the front suspension as well as the rear.
But rear suspension positioning and the droop of the suspension on the inside of the car when turning on a bend will clout the diffuser, so clever car design benefits.
Formula 1 is a great example of popular misconception that if teams build aero such a way, it must be right. Wrong. Teams are faced with different rules and regulations season after season, and what they build is the best they can achieve without breaking the rules, doesn't mean necessarily it's the most optimum design. Us mere home brew car builders only have 2 restrictions, lack of resource and lack of knowledge and experience lol
The transition from the flat floor to the diffuser needs to be smooth with an optimum angle of 7 degrees. The main purpose is to allow high velocity low pressure air to gradually go back to low velocity high pressure air when it meets the air flowing over the top of the car.
If the angle of the diffuser is too steep or the transition is too abrupt you will get air separation which creates turbulence and a partial vacuum. The best way to envisage air separation it go to your kitchen sink, turn on the tap and hold a spoon under the flow of water. The bottom underside rounded end of the spoon needs to be in the flow of the water.
The flow of the water from the tap is the air travelling underneath the car, the rounded bottom of the spoon is the diffuser. Let the tap run and you'll get a constant stream of water in a straight line, then when holding the handle vertically down almost parallel with the water offer up the rounded bottom of the spoon into the stream of water.
The water clings to the contour of the spoon, changing direction of the water as it creates a boundary layer with the spoon. The air under the car does exactly the same. You can change angle in which the rounded bottom is presented in the flow of water and if it gets too steep, the water can't cling to the surface of the spoon and the water goes all crappy and broken up, that's exactly the same as air separation which is bad on cars.
Ideally the air on the underside needs to flow into the air from the top of the car and meet nicely at the rear without creating a vacuum.
Transit van on the m5 doing 100 mph, the air flow from underneath, over the top, down the sides of the van will very rarely get anywhere near the rear van doors, you'll get a vortex behind the van and some air will spill into that void. But by n large that void is a vacuum which actually slows the vehicle and tries to pull the vehicle backwards so the air from the flow can fill that void. Not good.
Lastly, ( as I need to get up n go in the shed, insomnia ruined my night ) another misconception about diffusers........ The vertical strakes that you often see dangling from the diffuser is not to channel air and keep it in a straight line.
Imagine a diffuser with no strakes at all, one big channel of air from under the car flowing nicely out the back. Soon to be disrupted by the turbulent air that's coming around the rear wheels as it spills into the area of the diffuser. It's called tyre squiffing or something like that I can't remember the name, anyway, the turbulent air, enters the diffuser and disrupts your nice air flow and negates all your hard efforts in producing downforce.
Add in some verical strakes, say 2, so the diffuser now effectively has 3 chambers LH, centre and RH. At the bottom edge of each strake, you will get a vortex, it always occurs to the side of the strake but adjacent to the bottom edge. This vortex helps to prevent the turbulent air from the rear tyres entering the next chamber along, so the LH and RH chamber will have a partial disruption from the tyres, leaving clean flowing air in the centre chamber from the underside of the car to create the downforce at the transition from the flat floor to the diffuser.
Add more strakes ( with a trade off of more weight) and you'll have more chambers in the centre of the diffuser that are uninterrupted by turbulent air.
Put a 90 degree bend at the bottom of the strake like an L with the bend pointing from the centre outwards and you can move the vortex closer to the ground without reducing ground clearance which is even more beneficial.
Right I got pins n needles in my left arm from holding my iPad in bed. Getting up.
I'm not an expert on this, and sorry for "ladybird booking" what I've learnt so far.
Just hope all these theories I've learnt work, I really don't want to upset the classic lines of the Rotus by putting a spoiler over the boot.
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Whats the car? Volvo 1800 the saint looking?
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Saw one of these in white yesterday and thought about your comment Jon lol
It's a very very pretty car, unlike my Frankenstein secret bastard love child lol
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A link to the basics which will explain it better than i ever could.
https://www.buildyourownracecar.com/race-car-aerodynamics-basics-and-design/
And a couple of pics showing my spoon method to support my crappy explanation. You can see the water tracking the back of the spoon and the flow of water changing direction from its original path from the tap.
Excuse my grimey sink, Im in the shed not the house lol.
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Thats that job jobbed.
Just some NACA ducts to install
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I have absolutely no expertise on aero, so admire the research you've been doing and the neat underfloor sections you've produced :icon_thumleft:
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I could comb my hair in that floor Malcolm................if I had any !
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Ill read that later just got up from nights...
Coffee...
The air that enter under bonnet area via rad etc...then travels down transmission tunnel cooling gearbox and exits where? You need a vent at end of tunnel.
Rx8s and Rx7 get hot gearboxes and there open to the air under the car.
I think you need a vent in the back of the car above the flat floor.
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The radiator will have ducts that will transfer air from the back of the rad and out the bonnet. No warm air should enter the bay from the rad.
There will be some extra ducts in the bonnet to help push any exhaust heat out.
There will also be a duct feeding cool air into the exhaust tunnel and will be vented at the back.
I plan on putting some ducting on the flat floor to cool the gearbox and through the tunnel to the diff.
Should be able to mount a vent at the back of the chassis and direct away from the car.
Cheers Big ears :icon_thumleft:
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Just had a light bulb moment.
If I redesigned the diffuser to an 80's / 90's formula 1 style diffuser like in the below diagram..........
Where it says "Gearbox" I could route my exhaust out that point and any air that goes down the tunnel that cools the gearbox and the diff can be vented out the back as it passes the silencer.
Sorted! Im happy with that concept
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Yep and no parachute effect..and no gearbox sychro issues when gb oil turns to water when overheating.
Thats what you need.
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Emmas new shoes coming on a treat!
I should touch up the grass while i got the green spray out
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Here ya go Jon,
One rear vent / exhaust exit
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Yep thats nice.
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Well its all going on today,
Emma is stuck at the AEC at Worcester Hospital having an MRI scan on potential spinal cord trauma.........
......... I've had a phone call off my GP to tell me I've been diagnosed Type 2 diabetic......
I guess there's always someone worse off
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Blimey mate fingers crossed for Emma. She had a fall or summit?
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She’s gotta stay in overnight, running a bag up now.
I’m no doctor but she’s had a bad back for a while, I think she’s done herself a mischief and the inflammation is pressing against the spinal cord and in turn effecting her nerves.
She’s got numbness and sharp pains in various parts of her body.
She will do anything to get out of pushing the damn hoover round lol
I’ll send your regards on
J
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I'm very sorry to hear this news about both of you. Fingers crossed Emma's issue can be easily sorted with no long term affects.
A T2 diabetes diagnosis is obviously very bad news. My BIL was diagnosed with T2 about a year ago, but went on the NHS programme he was offered and dramatically changed his diet as a result (very low in carbs) and walked several miles most days. He lost ~3 stone (from 13 to 10) and his doctor says he no longer has diabetes. He reckons he will have to stay with his lifestyle changes to keep T2 at bay, else it will return. But, he says he feels so much better and it's motivated him to stick to his current regime, which he's adjusted to and finds quite easy now. He had to buy a whole new set of clothes too, as nothing fitted him any more, having lost ~4" around his waist!
Best wishes to you both at what must be a very stressful time.
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Thanks Malcom,
Emma’s had a lumbar puncture done.
Ah the t2 don’t bother me, the ironic thing is I started dieting a few weeks back and I’ve gone from 18stone 4 pounds and today I was 16 stone 10 pounds.
I’m aiming for 13.5 ( and I’ll still be heavier than Jon grrr lol ) I’ve changed my eating habits dramatically as I’ve done nothing about exercise.
I was gonna treat myself to a new mountain bike but I went for a job interview the other day and the commute would be stupid, so I’ll see what happens with work, if I stay put I’ll buy one then .
Dig out my old clip on shoes and shorts with a nappy sewn in
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What? Hope She is ok! :(
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Yeah me too Jarno,
Shes doesnt have much luck at the mo.
They say what doesnt kill you makes you stronger.
Shes in the best place.
To look at her she looks like theres nothing wrong, but she cant walk properly, and she cant tell if her bodily functions downstairs are working......
We just need to know whats wrong so we can hopefully fix it....
Fingers crossed today will reveal some answers
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yep fingers crossed mate. she's in the best place.
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Hey Jamie im down to 13.3kg now ive eaten nothing but salads since i came back from hols....( apart from fish n chips sat night treat). :13:
keep us posted on Emma.
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I hope you get some good news about Emma today.
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Lumbar Puncture is clear, no nasty infections in her spinal fluid.
They think she has this........
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/guillain-barre-syndrome/?fbclid=IwAR0k4cDm9Vb0ZRj0M_G5tOyncHr_Djaesa73nppzVkBT6qY_XIGGj77y5Xo
They don't seem too worried as its treatable although it can be life threatening as in some cases the nerves can fail and stop the lungs from working.
MRI scan today and a chat with a neurology specialist.
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Hey Jamie im down to 13.3kg now ive eaten nothing but salads since i came back from hols....( apart from fish n chips sat night treat). :13:
keep us posted on Emma.
pffffttttt !!!
I could saw my leg off and I wouldn't come close.
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Well,
Repackable silencer rocked up today.
Nothing like complete overkill to cheer a man up.
To be fair is was being mounted as the first pic, but now ive changed the diffuser design, its needs shortening, but ill do that once the diffuser is finished.
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Is she still in mate? My mrs said thats a nasty condition, ideally she should be in hospital so they can monitor it
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Yeah I’m here in hospital now no mri yet, fingers crossed tomorrow
Lots of emergencies today took priority
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Day 3 in the big brother house.
Moved to medical assessment unit. Scheduled MRI for 8am tomorrow.
Hopefully she can come home tomorrow, were on holibobs next week :(
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Fingers crossed here for some much needed good news tomorrow Jamie.
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Any news on Em mate?
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Jesus, never been on such an emotional roller coaster!!
I’m in the shed, Emma phones at 6pm to say she’s been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis!
I’m a mess, her dad who was with me is a mess and we hot foot it up there.
We’re all going through scenarios and about 8 pm the neurologist turns up.
He is convinced she has transverse myelitis, she has an inflammation in a third of her spine caused by perhaps a virus and her immune system is attacking her nervous system.
She could get it again and it could lead to multiple sclerosis.... but one day at a time.
Next 3 days is iv drip of steroids and because the inflammation is so large 60 mg of steroid tablets and tapering off over the next 3 months,
We’re good for holiday in Wales and Baileys graduation next week and we’re good for Portugal later in the year.
She’s still poorly but it’s better news
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Annoyed over the junior doctor diagnosing the possible worst case as was so matter of fact too at the time.
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On a slightly more humorous note to feed my sick humour
Bailey was at the docs yesterday and gotta produce a stool sample?
Just asked me how I would recommend collecting it.
I said you HAVE to hold the glass tube and just ...... aim lolllll
Wonder if he will listen to his ole man ? ?
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Cheers !
Good health :icon_thumleft:
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Damn just realised Dom drank corona not sol...doh.
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Well, that's not good news, but some relief in that it's not as bad as the initial diagnosis. I'm so glad you can continue with your plans for the near future. As you say, one day at a time for now.
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Damn just realised Dom drank corona not sol...doh.
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It’s close enough, it’s not hpa that’s all I know lol
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Well, that's not good news, but some relief in that it's not as bad as the initial diagnosis. I'm so glad you can continue with your plans for the near future. As you say, one day at a time for now.
Nope we’ve had better weeks but she can feel her feet more today so the steroids are helping with the inflammation of the spinal cord.
Could last weeks, or months, or a year before she fully recovers. Strange as it sounds I’m looking forward to being nurse next week. If she’s lucky I’ll give her a bed bath .
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Blimey, lost for words mate. Wishing Emma a speedy recovery.
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Yeah, really cant figure out what to say.
hopefully she gets well soon
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Yeah, really cant figure out what to say.
hopefully she gets well soon
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Real sad all this and we like you and many others don't know what to say other than, fingers crossed :(
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Morning Chaps,
Thanks for the kind words and wishes.
Its not all doom and gloom, Me and Emma have been through the wars the past 3 years, we lost our daughter at 17 weeks pregnant, 3 failed attempts at IVF and now this.
But we have each other and that wont change, I have my mental health issues and she has her physical ones, we help each other and thats whats important.
If the worst happens we adapt....... doesnt mean we should stop. I have a good friend who is paralyzed from the 3 vertabre down after a bad motorbike accident, that was 13 years ago, he still lays slabs, he still wheels himself to the garage, drags himself out the chair into the engine bay and works on his cars.
Dont let anything stop you!
Anyway, on a lighter note, were still making progress, the outlet ducts for the oil coolers are done and will be hopefully mounted today before i go see Emma.
Im not too concerned on the heat from these, as standard these oil coolers are fitted with rubber shrouds, and they dont melt. So im mildly happy.
Thanks guys, and despite everything, keep smiling.
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Glad to see Emma smiling after all this :)
Like others, it's hard to know what to say, other than to pass my best wishes to you both and hope Emma gets better sooner, rather than later.
Nice progress on the Rotus too :great:
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Yes mate same sentiments as Casey has said.
On your rad what you doing about fans? Stock fans or aftermarket?
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Stock fans and shroud mate as per advice from Captain.
They will have ducts also on the back of the shroud allowing the air exit through 2 holes in the bonnet
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Quick update,
Emma is currently in the discharge lounge waiting for her meds and discharge papers, so should be home this afternoon. :occasion14:
Car wise...........
cooler ducts are grafted on and rad sub frame welded up.
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Good to hear Emma is on her way home :)
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Yep good news!
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I suggest you stick her on the sofa with her favourite box to watch on tele... get her a bell to ring for when she needs something!
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I'm sure she will enjoy being looked after by the grizzly nurse.
I strolled into the discharge lounge yesterday to collect her, I said, hello my little nest of vipers. Much to the disbelief of the other patients.
Grabbed her bags, and she's tottering behind at the speed of smell. I turned around and said, will you hurry up, I was clean shaven when I arrived!
Anyway, Rotus work will be non existent this week, we're gonna be lounging about in the hot tub. Dunno what the wifi is like, or the 4G , so probably see y'all at the rendezvous point on Sunday. Fingers crossed for good weather. :icon_thumleft:
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More tubes going in.
Same diameter as the roll cage but lighweight seamed tube.
Strong enough to hang the exhaust and diffuser off, but light enough to buckle in the event of a rear ender without destroying the roll cage.
I save the cage for a "big off"
The MSA blue book mentions not letting the roll cage extend past the suspension anchorage points.
Not sure of the reason but.....yeah.
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Made a start on the diffuser.
Mocking it up in steel first, cover it in filler, make a mould, and then product in GRP (nothing new there)
Gotta put a few more pie cut pieces on the tail pipe to joggle it up into the boot area to route the silencer in the "vent" section.
Carved up and remodelled the horrendous original rear bumper to meet the bodywork better and form the mounting part of the diffuser.
"Fired up" my new shrinker / stretcher for the first time since my birthday in June....... im impressed.
Its shrinking 1.5mm nicely and was only supposed to have a limit of 1.2mm on steel.
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God its a warm one today !
Been messing about with the last bit of the exhaust.
Lost 10" out of the silencer as it was purchased to sit transversely in the boot with side exit. Now exiting out the vent. Its certainly lighter.
Made a exhaust "saddle" similar to what they use on go karts...... couple of springs over the top. I'll stop the bugger from moving !!!
Cant fit it properly yet, stupid diffuser in the way! Who designed it like that? ? ? ?
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Diffuser buck coming on
tack bend cut repeat
ignore the crossmember, its just for support
And the vent wont be blocked off
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Looks awesome! Good job mate :sign0098:
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Thanks Kaveri
Shape wise it's come out a lot better than I originally thought.
CAD only tells you so much, but it's a nice guide. We made some real life alterations from the model, and the roof of the diffuser follows the underside of the rear quarter nicely like as if we planned it lol.
We can see what else we can add around the rear wheels to channel the turbulent air away from the diffuser that's come from down the sides of the car and out of the wheel wells.
It's getting heavy now all that steel. Can't wait to lift it off and get it on a table.
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Terrible night on the car!
Everything I touched turned to dog turd! grrrrr.
Gonna make a jig today and chuck the diffuser at it. Its not working building it on the car, bits move from welding, crap floating in mid air and hoping for the best.
I will not be beaten, I shall have my revenge on you.....mwhahaha
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The guy from Torque Technique died mate...i found out today.....
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:( :( :(
I had a phone call today to say the mother of my ex wife (who I still got on well with) died this morning while on holiday in Tenerife.
No warning, no illness, nothing. Big shock. Bailey is very subdued.
Only went to her husbands funeral earlier this year.
It's all going on mate
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Sad news.............
I knew this day would come........ the Rotus is up for sale!
Joking!!!!
Nope, I made a right hash of the diffuser pattern. Too much weight, panels under tension, stuff moving, nothing straight.
Well when I say its a hash, its not as accurate as Id like, so its in the scrap pile for the gypos...... the steel, welding gas, wire was all free.
Just dont like wasting time.......... so its back to spending money and glueing polystyrene slabs together and carving out the shape.
I guess Ive got the dimensions from the previous one to replicate.
Oh well................... could be worse.
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Would the metal diffuser not clean up enough to get a mould off it.
I once made a mould off the type of thing you are showing for a bonnet and back end of a V8 Sprint car.
Another little money maker along the way, NOT !
p.s like the paper weight.
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Hi Clive,
That was the intention with the metal one, it was a pattern to take a mould off, but it wasn’t to my standard, things moving from cooling contraction on the tacks. I wasn’t happy with it so it would bug me if it wasn’t right.
I’ll just carve it out of polystyrene and lay up some grp for a mould. It’s not a major setback.
Yeah an old motorbike engine always comes in handy.
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Roughed out............. time for some clag !
Id still be straightening the steel one by now.
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So....... Maybe a question for someone who has driven an 8 in "anger" round a track..... Clive, Malcolm, Jon, cant think of anyone else....but please pitch in.
You take all the mechanicals off an RX8 and you graft them onto a car that will be half the weight, lets say from 1400Kgs down to 700 -750 Kgs
Ignoring the lack of ABS, fitting of bias pedal box, master cylinder bore sizes...... Also ignoring the unsprung weight factor
Do you think the stock discs and calipers from the RX8 will be man enough to haul up the Rotus?? Or invest in upgrade regardless? Maybe its a suck it n see......
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Because you are stopping so little weight compared to stock, just make sure the discs are in good condition and fit a decent set of pads.
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Thanks Clive,
That's good to hear. In addition to this I purchased some 17" inch steels to keep the car look more "period" (better not make the diffuser out of carbon fibre then lol )
The 17" steels fit over the stock set up quite nicely with ample clearance. Maybe because the wall of the steels are thinner than the alloy wheels
I was concerned bigger calipers would hinder that.
I remember my old Mk1 escort with 2.8i Capri bilsteins converted to coil overs fitted with Austin Princess 4 pot calipers of all things.
I had to relieve the calipers with an angle grinder to get the 5.5J mexico steels to fit....... not an ideal situation
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"Austin Princess 4 pot calipers" Wow, there's a blast from the past. Blimey, how old did you say you was :)) :)) :))
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cough 43 cough
They bolt directly on to capri struts with 257mm vented discs lol
Theres a guy in our town who still has his princess, bought it when it was 12 months old, I saw it yesterday actually.
Hearing aid beige with a brown vinyl roof
Im going to assume its an auto because I know the owner has a prosthetic arm.....
It still looks in good nick for a piece of Leyland crap lol
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Dammit Google Maps let me down
The princess lives on the highlighted drive, but the stills go either side of the drive and I cant get a nosey..... lol
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I reckon good stock discs would be enough. However, I would be carefull with pads, too hard ones might crab, well really too hard...
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I agree, stock disks and calipers on the 8 are very capable on track. As Jarno said, you will need to experiment with getting the right pad, but the lighter mass should mean less stress and heat. Could mean lower spec, =cheaper, pads may be best suited.
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Thanks guys,
I think new discs all round are a must as part of the final build......... To put the old discs on after all this effort would be like hanging a chandelier in a haunted house.
Service the calipers, lick of paint and some of those hawk fast road pads from RBE.......
........god there's so much to do......
Most of the stuff I've worked on so far I can't buy off the shelf, so it's make it.
I need to turn a corner on it pretty soon, it's 2 years this Boxing Day
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You gonna run the rx8 servo?
Only thing id add is get new slider pins for the caliper carriers as part of build up.
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You gonna run the rx8 servo?
Only thing id add is get new slider pins for the caliper carriers as part of build up.
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Nah no servo, floor mounted, bias pedal box, master cylinders pointing back into the cabin due to space constraints.
Ran the escort with no servo and it was fine under foot.
Don't suppose you know if slider pins come with a rebuild kit??
Was gonna replace the seals and dust boot
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Jamie ..? Quiet today mate....all ok?
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Yes Jon, sorry
Covering general manager again at work so stressed to defcon 9 working with idiots......
.... Got a weekend ahead building a bespoke shed for a family member...
Rotus build is slow atmo. Made a new bumper , diffuser design been improved and now on mark 3
Thanks for asking.....all is ok bud
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If you want to save some unsprung weight put mx5 nc brakes /discs on. Straight fit.
Front are smaller diameter and rears are single not vented
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Thanks Paul
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Plenty of stopping power given the weight of the mx5. Rotus should be fine
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So little update............
...... still busy making the diffuser pattern, lots of body filler, sanding, usual stuff.
....finished the rear bumper pattern which will be moulded in lightweight GRP and not integral with the diffuser. Ill explain later when I post pics........... but gurney flaps are involved! ;D ;D
Anyway, slightly diff topic......... cant find the paint code for mandarin orange, so for the ease of touching up as im bound to have a bang or scrape while im learning to drive again (track style not road style) ive decided on a standardised colour that anyone can obtain.
Introducing ............ RAL 2004 known as Reinorange in Deutschland or Pure Orange back in blighty.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ral+2004&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjG4dPywJbkAhX-UxUIHS8PAewQ_AUIESgB&biw=1536&bih=740#imgrc=_HHDMKePPuenKM:&spf=1566477893096
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Ok so just for reference ( possible power plant for next project shhhh )
How available / sought after are pre renesis naturally aspirated engines??
Maybe from the fc or earlier ......
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In answer to my own question they must be rare, the price difference between renesis and older versions..... jeeez
It’s only from an appearance point of view. If I can get the renesis to run without all the added flaps solenoids sensors etc and go back to basics
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You'll find even getting hold of a Rx7 engine a bit tricky. Best place is forums or the likes of specialist companies like Haywards rotary or colum (garage reg) in Brum
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I wish it was as simple as chucking a set of throttle bodies or carbs on a renesis lolll
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There's a manifold you can buy to fit throttle bodies. No idea how to control the fuelling.
I wouldn't get to worried about the rx8 air control bits.
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In answer to my own question they must be rare, the price difference between renesis and older versions..... jeeez
It’s only from an appearance point of view. If I can get the renesis to run without all the added flaps solenoids sensors etc and go back to basics
Fit the plastic cover over the engine? Lol
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Make it even taller ? Lol
Be nice if I was clever enough to design and build a new intake manifold like on that engine Jim mederer built like that post Clive put on the other day
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Bored out of my mind.........
...............waiting for glue to dry ... literally
Did some tech specs to pass the time.
The power to weight ratio is a calculation from the anticipated associated figures
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Mmmm i think the 260bhp might be a bit optimistic.
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How much will a bridge port add?
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I think youll be circa 200bhp at wheel mate with a bridge.
Std 231s dyno at 175...
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Ah I was just referring to engine output with a load of mods.
I wouldnt have a foggiest on wheel horsepower untill i get it set up on the rollers.
Guy on you tube got a 8 with full bridge port at 214 at the wheels.
But we know how much rollers/dynos can vary between diff places.
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Theres plenty of other stuff I can do to make the most out of quicker acceleration with whatever engine hp it pops out.........
Rip it all out and put it in a westy? lol
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-RX8-Crown-Wheel-and-Pinion-Diff-Gears-5-1-5-3-or-5-8/133016425379?hash=item1ef86593a3:g:YasAAMXQuTNTM1Cu
Will the above take things stupidly in the wrong direction? I dont mean backwards lol
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Hi mate working weekend for me so v busy at work. Right here we go.
231 and 192s do not dyno at there published figures but do go up the road and bum dyno suggests its accurate and head to heads with similiar powered cars.
Some reasons are the stability control system senses the front wheels are not turning and rains in the power...
So bridgeported de catted modded cars make 200 whp standard cars are making 170whp on rolling roads.
The traction control system can be turned off but its never really off still has some control.
People say that if you press and hold button it completely switches off but im not so sure as generates a fault in system. That resets on cycling off power.
Westy runs a street port...with 231...at 4.1 final drive...at 560kg...its rapid acceleration in 1 2 3 4 then ok in 5 and dull in 6th.
I think your gonna be fine with the standard 4.4. But if not swap out later on...
The converted mx5 i drove was a 5.? Still wasnt as quick as Westy...but on ohlins handled sweet. But power to weight is your friend.
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Clives got cwps online no need togo to oz.
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Hi mate working weekend for me so v busy at work. Right here we go.
231 and 192s do not dyno at there published figures but do go up the road and bum dyno suggests its accurate and head to heads with similiar powered cars.
Some reasons are the stability control system senses the front wheels are not turning and rains in the power...
So bridgeported de catted modded cars make 200 whp standard cars are making 170whp on rolling roads.
The traction control system can be turned off but its never really off still has some control.
People say that if you press and hold button it completely switches off but im not so sure as generates a fault in system. That resets on cycling off power.
Westy runs a street port...with 231...at 4.1 final drive...at 560kg...its rapid acceleration in 1 2 3 4 then ok in 5 and dull in 6th.
I think your gonna be fine with the standard 4.4. But if not swap out later on...
The converted mx5 i drove was a 5.? Still wasnt as quick as Westy...but on ohlins handled sweet. But power to weight is your friend.
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It does completely switch it off.
Tested that thoroughly.
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Maybe switches off traction control completely but how do you know if its limited engine power atall.
Cars with disabled traction still yield low numbers on dynos.
And Clives car being an oddball with twice the standard power he has had all sorts of issues with the rear brakes and afrs going funky when these systems were active...
All the electronic aids are gone now and a pip map no more engine blow ups...
I dont know is the answer but bum dyno on an 8 is better than a real dyno.
Always meant to dyno the westy.....
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I've done a fair bit of playing with bmw ms43/2 ecu's and the abs/dsc unit is practically identical to the mazda rx8 unit.
All the dsc/abs unit does its send a signal to the ecu to limit torque and power. If this dsc system is missing or switched off (hence the dtc) the ecu remains producing full power.
A fail safe on the bmw ecu if the abs signal is missing, is to put the ecu into limp mode (5k max revs) I remove this when I map ecu's.
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Hi mate working weekend for me so v busy at work. Right here we go.
231 and 192s do not dyno at there published figures but do go up the road and bum dyno suggests its accurate and head to heads with similiar powered cars.
Some reasons are the stability control system senses the front wheels are not turning and rains in the power...
So bridgeported de catted modded cars make 200 whp standard cars are making 170whp on rolling roads.
The traction control system can be turned off but its never really off still has some control.
People say that if you press and hold button it completely switches off but im not so sure as generates a fault in system. That resets on cycling off power.
Westy runs a street port...with 231...at 4.1 final drive...at 560kg...its rapid acceleration in 1 2 3 4 then ok in 5 and dull in 6th.
I think your gonna be fine with the standard 4.4. But if not swap out later on...
The converted mx5 i drove was a 5.? Still wasnt as quick as Westy...but on ohlins handled sweet. But power to weight is your friend.
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Cheers Jon,
Im in a bit of a quandry.............. Its all about budget and ease of swapping bits.......
... yeah I probably will be fine with 4.44 diff and run my 5 speed for a bit of added lightness, but the car is built for the 6 speed, so I can pop that back on without any dramas of cutting chassis rails off etc.
I'd love to buy a brand new 4.77 cwp off Clive, but then I need to budget a diff rebuild.
Ive just located an R3 diff complete for 375 quid collected with 56k miles on it, at that price I'd take a punt.
Then I have a "plug n play" with diff swaps for different locations etc. for the sake of a few bolts
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I've done a fair bit of playing with bmw ms43/2 ecu's and the abs/dsc unit is practically identical to the mazda rx8 unit.
All the dsc/abs unit does its send a signal to the ecu to limit torque and power. If this dsc system is missing or switched off (hence the dtc) the ecu remains producing full power.
A fail safe on the bmw ecu if the abs signal is missing, is to put the ecu into limp mode (5k max revs) I remove this when I map ecu's.
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I’m running no abs or dsc, removed the sensors completely and the standard braking system, due to the bias pedal box. I’m hoping the adaptronic Ecu will let me dial stuff like that out
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6 speed....for na...nice close gears.
Clive with mega hp then stronger 5 speed as his Torque compensates for the longer gearing...i love the 6 speed crunches too...lol.
Right back to the civic....VTEC just kick in yo!!!! Vtec like bridgeport!!!! Happy with my mornings work...bodged the exhaust...all wheels off...deceased a slider pin....spanked in down the trading est....got a bit of understeer... not much in it compared to the colt lol. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190826/b9fa3959a0d7e998017a692291e0412b.jpg)
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TORRETTO !!!!
I owe you 10 sec car !
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Finally!!
16 days since I stuck the polystyrene slabs together. Ive got the pattern finished!
Apart from last weekend its been non stop. 12 hours today on it.. Shattered.com
Got the treacle primer on.
This has to be one of the most technically challenging jobs, seriously. Theres datums everywhere, measurements after measurments getting the right curvature upwards and outwards.
Try and get a mould off it before the weekend.
Im gonna have to DA the lawn before I can mow it :))
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That's amazing Jamie - looks like a real work of art :13:
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Amazing? maybe not...
time consuming. too much..
Lets see how well the finished product comes out and if it fits the car.
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Ala, formula 1, Yep should able to drive upside down on the ceiling with that one ;).
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hahaha
Im stepping into the unknown, im gonna have to run it and then take it off to see what difference it actually makes.
There's an important design feature that isn't on there yet, but will be added before the mould is made.
There's potentially another 4 parts to make yet to complete the diffuser, but I've not got that far yet.
One step at a time lol
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So the important feature is............
In homage to the fog light on the back of the RX8........... there will be a rotor shaped hole for the exhaust pipe to pop out of.
I didnt like it with the point poking down in the conventional sense as per the little cut outs in the headrests etc. but in the grnd scheme of things a "Doritio" on my car, shows a bit of what under the bonnet.
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Very smart mate.
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Ta bud
Every time I look at it I think the back end looks like someone put an iron on the back lol
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Insomnia beat me (again) .........
.........4.30am ??? time to get up and make a black GRP rear bumper !
Thats what "normal" people do right???
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:D nutter
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:D nutter
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lol
The doctors said the same.......
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4.30am ??? :sleepy: :sleepy:
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I wish it was zzzzzzzzz
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So paul,
you are right, i am a nutter.......... having been up since 4.30 making parts, ive literally just walked in.
I cant resist a bargain. Finished work at 5pm and just got back from Melton Mowbray, detour at Loughborough.
Keeping my options open for the future.
Going abroad in less than 7 days, but got my priorities right, R3 Diff and he threw in the drive shafts "because they differ in length by 2mm!" WTF?
but for £375 all in, I wasnt letting that one go.
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Sweet.
Why do people take short cuts. Just prise the good damn cv cups out. Lol. I'd check the needle rollers haven't come apart on the end of the driveshafts
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No idea,
A big crow bar
A hammer ( to feel manly)
Call it a few p's and q's
and it comes out.
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Another productive evening!
Fitted the new bumper that I made.
Its only for show, has no structural integrity. Save the car getting scratched but thats it, weighs as much as a bag of paperclips.
Last of the primer on the pattern, big race to get a mould off it before the weekend is over.
Shame it wasnt productive enough to mow the lawn.
Not strictly my fault, bought one of these Makita Li-Ion 18V strimmers..... Thought ah go on, ill get with the modern times........
Got it home and found out it doesnt come with a battery or charger....... so gotta wait for that to be delivered.
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I like the fog lamp plinth ;)
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I like the fog lamp plinth ;)
Haha
shame I'm cutting a hole in it for the exhaust to pop out lolll
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Get me, I’m modern n everything lol
This Tapatalk is well strange
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Excuse the randomness just navigating my way around ...... this could get dangerous lol
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Dog cat or rabbit?
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Dog cat or rabbit?
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Mr Flopsy mate (lion-head, lop earred rabbit)
Passed away last year after 8 years. Loved him to bits. Buried under the apple tree.
Had free roam of the back garden, lived in the garage and looked after the lotus before I tore it apart.
He was a grubby bugger, best way to describe him was relate him to "pig pen" from snoopy, the character that was constantly surrounded by a cloud of dust.
Mr Flopsy was quite often covered in his own poo, straw, matted furr, engine oil, under seal . He was grim, wouldn't change him for the world, and will never replace him.
If we had a drink down the bottom of the garden where that pic was taken, as you got up, he use to run rings around your feet so you couldn't leave.
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Sweet dreams little man
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Lol...still cant see a rabbit in last photo...
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Morning guys!
That awful primer has been blocked down..... takes ages :(
Its all been waxed up and a good healthy layer of gel coat. Laying up the chopped strand n resin this afternoon.
Good job i love the smell of this stuff :13:
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Dun did
I buy industrial size tins and even they don’t last 5 mins these days, gonna start buying drums with a pump #goinhardcore
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Getting serious
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Well ive either got soft, seen sense or I dunno what it is, maybe just getting old, or the resin fumes have got to me.
I wanted to try and maintain the original lotus lines as much as possible......
.... Ive been told by 2 different people that the +2 was called the "slippery" elan due to its drag coeofficent of 0.3 which was excellent for its day compared to other cars of the era.
Ive not found any evidence on t'interweb to back up this nickname but the figures are true.
To put it in perspective, fast forward to 2018, the Mazda 3 has a coefficent of 0.27 and it is the top 10 list of the most aerodynamic cars of 2018.
It would be a shame to change the classic lines, but as Ive changed the wings and the front end, added diffuser, its looks like im going to succumb to the fitment of a spoiler.
The slippery nautre is great for fuel economy ( well the rotary has thrown out that arguement ) and for a greater top speed (lose my license on the road or find a track with a long straight to find its top speed)
The trade off will be added drag on the back end for increase downforce with a fitment of a spoiler and other flaps.
Clive gave me an insight at Beaulieu about Dan Gurney who fitted aluminum plates on the back of NASCARs etc but made them interchangeable.
So I thought a spoiler with a feature so I can play around with different size flaps... we're only talking flaps an inch high if that but they make the difference.
So this morning I started laying out the base on the original boot lid, just to get the right shape and it uses up the last dregs of resin......
The diffuser mould comes off today, wont be doing anymore on that till after my holiday.
p.s. I posted the blue Lotus coz I know Jon likes blue!
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Pleased with that

Just gotta make product
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Good job mate

Yeah, that blue would be nice
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Bedroom balcony view for next 10 days
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Ohh holibobs...enjoy.
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Thanks bud, been away lots of times with work, China, Dubai, Saudi, Serbia, Germany, but I haven’t had a holiday abroad for over 10 years, so I’m enjoying the prospect of doing nothing and relaxing, but we do have a “rotary†washing line
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Ha ha, can't get rotaries out of your head eh?
Enjoy your holiday 8)
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Nope I’m always looking, the most interesting thing I’ve seen on the drive from the airport to the villa was a mark 1 Escort in maize yellow.
Thanks Malcom, how was Italy ?
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Emma is still grunting, Jon reading his crime novels, barb by the pool and I’m being a nerd as usual



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Thanks Malcom, how was Italy ?
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Still here in Italy and it's gorgeous! Here's my current view, sitting in in shade for a while on the hotel terrace with the whole of the Bay of Naples in sight, Mount Vesuvius hiding behind a flower pot and flagpole ;)
We return home late tomorrow, very sadly :(
Sorry if pic big, can't easily resize on my phone.
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Wow looks gorgeous darling !
We’ve done breakfast, had 2 hours frying my skin. A few lengths of the pool and doing some more swotting before lunch.
Jons had an email from euro millions but because we’re not in the uk they won’t let him access the content of the email.
I could be the associate of a millionaire !!
I’m going to have to go against tradition and let Emma propose to me so I don’t look like a gold digger. lol
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Looks like you have your own villa....you need a lifeguard?
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Yes. And yes please, can you rub lotion in my back
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https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-30-nasa-admits-climate-change-not-caused-by-suvs-fossil-fuels.html
Not directly related to cars but maybe , one day, they will lift the emissions laws and the rotary will rise from the ashes once more !
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Question.......
I've made the exits ducts from the back of the oil coolers which Jon called "Emma's new shoes" and the air is funnelled into the front wheel wells.
I'm having a thought of utilising that spent air and use the same air to cool the discs..........
Therefore.....
1, do you think the discs need cooling on a light car?
2, I don't know how much the air passing through the coolers will increase in temperature by passing the oil coolers, there’s only the plastic wheel liners behind the coolers on the standard rx8 set up. I certainly would have thought it will still be cooler than the discs.
3, Clive where did you buy those backing plates with the ducts built in from for christine?
I'm just thinking of being "efficient" during the build....
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Clive, found the backing plates on RBE website......
Just wondered if it was worthwhile exercise using that air to cool
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Clive, found the backing plates on RBE website......
Just wondered if it was worthwhile exercise using that air to cool
Here you go these are the ducts I fitted
https://www.racingbeateurope.com/mazda-mx5-nc---rx8-brake--cooling-ducts-3332-p.asp
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Finally my dream has come true.....
Turning into the hulk
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Lol big head and hulk strike again
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Lol big head and hulk strike again
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LOL @ big head hahaha
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I could be a super hero called "twinkle twinkle little star" lol ..... That's another story hahaha
Ugh I hate the first day back at work....... So far I've logged on to my computer and been to the loo.
So non enthusiastic
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I was thinking more Shrek than Hulk when I saw the green hand ;) ;D
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Touche'
Shrek is far better looking than me Malcolm.
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Shrek's response....
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My response lol
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Is that the face you make when you
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A gentleman never tells
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Took a punt on some second hand lights off eBay that looked like the would fit the body work well.
Right shape, they’re just huge and too big for the front end
It’s like they come off Portland bills lighthouse
Ah well ya can’t win them all ...... back to the drawing board
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Took a punt on some second hand lights off eBay that looked like the would fit the body work well.
Right shape, they’re just huge and too big for the front end
It’s like they come off Portland bills lighthouse
Ah well ya can’t win them all ...... back to the drawing board
I'm sure you could still make them fit ::)
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Ford at a guess?
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Took a punt on some second hand lights off eBay that looked like the would fit the body work well.
Right shape, they’re just huge and too big for the front end
It’s like they come off Portland bills lighthouse
Ah well ya can’t win them all ...... back to the drawing board
I'm sure you could still make them fit ::)
The overall height is bigger than the space I got and the overall width means if I butt them up against the oil cooler they are wider than the wings lol
Ya have to take a stab at these things now n then, they only set me back 50 quid for the pair, I can relist them on ebay, no great shakes.
Ill just buy some round Cibie's and shape some polycarbonate covers like on the 767
Tried to save me some time..... didnt pay off this time round
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Ford at a guess?
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Mk7 Transit of all things
Ive got a new style Mini headlight up in the loft of the garage that i bought for a bike project.
The lenses lean back nicely that may look cohesive with the wing, but the roundness of the light may screw things up .....
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I was going to say transit but I didn't want to offend you! Lol
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Cheverolet silverado headlights? Similar ish shape. Not a Ford (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190918/73798a7122da4b61298aa1db65cb222b.jpg)
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I was going to say transit but I didn't want to offend you! Lol
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Lol I wouldn't be offended by that..... ( I'd love a mk1 transit with the slidey drivers door)
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I need to get some dims before I purchase anything else lol
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Thinking way in advance.....
......thought about making a tool to make my own wheel centre caps out of plastic.
The obvious choice is rotor shaped, as the car is neither Lotus or Mazda anymore.
Lay them up in GRP in a mould with black gel coat and then machine the boss on the lathe.
Couldn't think how to make the rotor shape in aluminium as I don't have a milling machine......and plastic is lighter. Colin would be so proud.
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Well......... 6 weeks ago we started the diffuser ( in steel) another cock up that was...
Laid the last of the resin tonight....... complete with NACA duct to cool the diff as advised by the helpful guys on here.
Popping it out tomorrow.... the diffuser that is.
It better fit or the father in law is sacked lol
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Over the moon with that !!!!
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Nice crisp lines


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Thats enough for one day.....
..... need to shorten the silencer by another 1" :angryfire: :angryfire: but hey ho its no biggie.
happy with the overal fit.. looks like there will be enough suspension travel for the lower arms.
Any resduial air that comes down the transmission tunnel that doesnt escape out the centre vent will pass between the top of the diffsuer and the boot floor and scoop upwards around the bumper.
Couple of tweeks required, the bolts hanging out the bottom of the diff need shortening, easy fix.
Oh and the father in law just landed an unfinished lotus 7 replica 80% complete for £600 ! :violent1: Jammy *^%$£%$^&**
busy weekend ahead.
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Great work Jamie, looks ace :13:
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Thank you Malcolm, was a lot of work for 1 panel, hope it works. Got a bit more to add to it yet
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Staggeringly amazing work :13:
BTW I think when its done the car should be presented for the next Bond movie, after all you do have the rocket launcher in place ;)
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Staggeringly amazing work :13:
BTW I think when its done the car should be presented for the next Bond movie, after all you do have the rocket launcher in place ;)
Cheers Clive.... It looks the part..... The amazing part of it wont be revealed until it's finished and I can find out if it actually works. I've done enough swotting and research on the topic, but I think I've only scratched the surface still lots to learn, and you can only make your best guess using formulas and case studies as I have. There are no hard and fast rules, cars are vastly different you can fit the same part to 2 different cars and get varying results.
The real successes are being out on the track like you do, and seeing if it physically makes a difference, but I'm not there yet.
I won't be making a wind tunnel in the shed lol.
I'm under no illusion, I won't be designing multi stage wings for the front of Lewis hamiltons formula 1 car; but air is one of the few things in life that IS free. I may as well try to use it to my advantage.
Getting to grips with this dark art of fibreglassing. I dare say the father in law will get me roped in to making him stuff for his new toy.
Roger Moore had a lotus didn't he?? Don't ask me to get the wheels to tuck in and make it turn into a boat....... But then it is made from the same crap as canoes :13:
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Ugh I must be getting old, gotta pic my first pair of specs.....
Can I get some like Joe 90
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Can we get a vote going please ? I’m indecisive......
Rate my tip lol
Options are
1 Straight ( but lots shorter)
2 Down turn stubby
3 down turn longer
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Stubby
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Down turn long
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Down turn long...limit noise at pesky track days noise tests.
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Long because keep flames away from bodyvwork.
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I'm liking the logic behind that :icon_thumleft:
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Down turned and long to keep it away from the body.
I saw the top gear article where the mazda furai set on fire... Worrying
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This is my new favourite video in existence
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Thats enough for one day.....
..... need to shorten the silencer by another 1" :angryfire: :angryfire: but hey ho its no biggie.
happy with the overal fit.. looks like there will be enough suspension travel for the lower arms.
Any resduial air that comes down the transmission tunnel that doesnt escape out the centre vent will pass between the top of the diffsuer and the boot floor and scoop upwards around the bumper.
Couple of tweeks required, the bolts hanging out the bottom of the diff need shortening, easy fix.
Oh and the father in law just landed an unfinished lotus 7 replica 80% complete for £600 ! :violent1: Jammy *^%$£%$^&**
busy weekend ahead.
That is low. You could replace the studs with bolts?
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I've hacked the studs back with no adverse effects.
10mm clearance now
That vid emphasises yours and Jons point, not that I have 4 rotors ....
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Its the over run thats most worrying as a slow burn from exhaust can have flames up under bumper and maybe ignite any fuel vapour in boot from say external tank and swirlpot etc.
Flames are great but they can also burnt your P&J to crispy chicken...lol.
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LOL never thought i could say that the Rotus "tastes like chicken" hahaha
All vaild points and taken on board.
I cut the rolled lip off the straight tip this morning and welded it to the down turn long tip, to make it a little longer and stop pedestrians slicing their shins open..... cast your mind back to yesterdays convo regarding gore lol
Cheers guys
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Looks awesome, good job mate
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TIG?
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Looks awesome, good job mate
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TIG?
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Offline tonight, can't read properly I'm squinting one eyed thankfully I pads have big keepers had my pupils dilated at hospital see y'all tomorrow
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Loll letters not keepers, blind prat.
That was horrible, but retinas are all good :icon_thumleft: had an eye test Saturday, had one of those funky 3D scans, saw a green blob in my eye ball.
Hospital confirmed its just a nevus nowt to stress over.
Strangely looking forward to my first pair of specs on Sunday. I may look intellectual for once :th_smiley-typing: or just like a minion with my chrome dome
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Strangely looking forward to my first pair of specs on Sunday. I may look intellectual for once :th_smiley-typing: or just like a minion with my chrome dome
:s_cool: Can't wait for pics with your specs on now ;D ;D ;D
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Thankfully they're not strong, I need them when I'm sat at my pc all day looking at car stuff lol and stop me getting headaches.
I'm not wearing them in the shed, I'm so clumsy, I'll kill them in half a day .....
I may give you a sneak preview on one social media platform or another
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All a bit quiet
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Evening Paul,
Sorry nohing exciting happening, rubbing down polystyrene and filler for more parts....
More chop chop than chit chat
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So some good news for a change!
Weve been to see a private neurologist today to get some answers.
Contrary to what both Emma and I believed, Transverse Myelitis is not a condition in itself but an outcome of an underlying problem; in the same way that people get headaches caused by stress or eye strain etc. (So weve learned something) *First tick*
We saw the MRI scans today for the first time and we have been told that there is a 99.9% chance its not Multiple Sclerosis, or certainly the evidence suggests that. *Big tick*
They are confident this condition is a one off and Emma will make a full recovery but they cannot say how long it will take, it could be 3 months, it could be 3 years. fingers crossed.
More bloods required to rule out anti bodies in her system that could be related to Neuromyelitis Optica or NMO. If her body is clear of this anti body then she can come off the steroids immediately as all they are doing is controlling the inflammation on her spinal cord in case she does have NMO. Another big tick as the weight gain is getting her down. (Gravity works like that lol)
So, possible causes that attacked her nervous system in the first place. NMO, being run down, eczema, thrush, flu, or a B12 vitamin deficiency which apparently is also an auto immune condition.
We may never know the cause, but the good news is that there is hope of a full recovery, just need to be patient, and in the grand scheme of things, if you rate her level from 1 being having the condition with no symptoms to 10 being completely paralyzed shes around a 2 or 3......
Certainly a dark cloud is gone from my mind
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Fantastic news!!! Big hugs!
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Cheers Jon. We (Emma) needed that boost today. We have answers. Nothing worse than being kept in the dark
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Good news!
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Thanks Paul. How’s tricks with your better half ?
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Not too bad thanks. Our daughter has been born. Bit of a traumatic birth, had the cord wrapped tight around her neck when she popped out. Was a bit limp and purple, but all good now.
Wife has a vascular rash develop, the doctors are a bit concerned. Waiting on blood tests to come back.
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Well, many congratulations Paul :binkybaby: I hope the issue with your wife is quickly sorted.
And Jamie, that's great news about Emma too. Although you still don't know the cause, at least the prognosis is a hell of a lot brighter now. Big hugs from me!
Wow, a good news day to brighten up this gloom :)
All we need is a clear Brexit direction/decision now............ ;)
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Ditto
fingers crossed for your partner Paul
And many congrats on fatherhood 
Cheers Malcolm. Need to get her behind the wheel again.... don’t like being taxi driver in Birmingham this morning lol
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Brexit???
Isn’t that a myth, like women’s rights ? Lol
I’m hiding now haha
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Congrats Paul...how many jam eaters is that now?
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2.another daughter to join the crew. I feel outnumbered
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Awwww you live in the oestrogen ocean, give it a couple of years you’ll be coming home from work to a naked barbie convention all over the lounge floor lol
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Finally some good news J! :13: Sometimes just some good news boost up your morale and make you feel better...
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Yup Yup
We even had a little celebration last night :icon_thumleft:
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In case you all thought I died..... (wishful thinking eh)
The blood is still warm that courses through these veins, albeit with filler dust and glass fibre strands
Still stuff going on in the shed of truth ....
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Oh and I finally have a boot floor, just enough room for a space saver, a Jerry can, a sex blanket and a 10mm spanner
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Gaurenteed to lose that 10mm the second you put it in the boot

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lol, summat bigger like a 17mm may be more visible, I just cant fit it in
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A picture of some spanners may fit in better

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Indeed
Don’t think I’ll be going for a long weekend in that car
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Let me know if my long-lost 10mm socket turns up in there will you Jamie ;) :))
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Haha
Will do Malcolm :icon_thumleft:
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Took the auxiliary LH and RH diffusers off the moulds today.
They are not expected to do much on their own.
They assist the main diffuser to be more efficient by stopping turbulent nasties off the rear wheels entering the main part.
Plus venting air from down the transmission tunnel.
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Looks absolutely mental! Good job mate. :sign0098: Cant wait too see that thing finished :P
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Cheers Kaveri
I cant even see the light at the end of the tunnel
Sick of filler, sick of fibreglass, Im hoping by Xmas I can get back onto mechanicals, fabrication and .....gulp ....wiring
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Exhaust looks good
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If it keeps the flames away from all that plastic ill be happy lol
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Ive not bored you lot for a while so quick update.
Just waiting on some tie bars for the back to stop the aero flapping about.
Im hoping with the contrast of orange body and satin black aero parts, you still be able to distinguish the lines of the car.
Was up at stupid oclock sanding bits for the duck tail spoiler, chucking a third brake light in, i dont know why, maybe to break up the slab back.
............. off to Caffeine and Machine today. Ill take some poor quality pics if theres anything interesting.
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I'm sure many people follow this with anticipation of the next part or piece being constructed, so your far from boring people.
p.s. fancy posting up pictures of this becoming famed Caffeine and Machine outside and in, as we will try and get there some time.
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What Clive said
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Ahh just seen your post, didn’t take any inside the building, it’s very nice, packed inside, took some pics inside the wigwam and some cars, I’ll post later.
There’s a vw camper van and a Kawasaki drag bike inside
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Saying that it would look a bit weird taking pics inside coz it was rammed. People would think I was into voyuerism or summat
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Home,
Good turn out from the Worcester Car Club. All walks of life at C&M. Really expensive Italian cars beginning with F, cant say it, Ill have to spit on the floor.
To Hillman imps with patina, motorbikes, drag race inspired Ford Anglia 100E with wheelie bars, Consuls, V8 Triumph heralds hmmmm not for me.
1 RX8, 1 RX7, a Dodge truck parked next to a westfield looked funny.
An AZ1 ....... super looking old skool porsche, Lotus Elan ( gone before I got chance to take pics)
As theres not many display cars.... your pretty much governed by what turns up on the day, so going with a car club is a great idea. Especially if your travelling from the far end of the country as your guaranteed to see some great stuff in the car park.
£5 entry for cars regardless of passengers. Great atmosphere, car guys talking to bikers, old, young, bring ya dog even.
Hope you enjoy the pics. I buy a decent camera one day instead of using my phone.......
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I hope you stood far enough back from the mustang when he left
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Part 2
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Part 3
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Cant be much more..........
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I hope you stood far enough back from the mustang when he left
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Mate it was a beast!
spot the 100E anglia with the brackets for the nitrous bottles, Father in law asked if they were for the Nitro Mors bottles..............
Bless lol
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Id take the rs1600i home...
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Id take the rs1600i home...
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Had steel wheels on and still looked great . probably rare as hens teeth these days.
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I hope you stood far enough back from the mustang when he left
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Mate it was a beast!
spot the 100E anglia with the brackets for the nitrous bottles, Father in law asked if they were for the Nitro Mors bottles..............
Bless lol
Ha, quality
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An interesting collection of cars there :13:
Loving the Ford Anglia. My dad's first car was a Ford Prefect. I must dig out a pic and post it up!
Thanks for taking the time to post up all those pictures Jamie :icon_thumleft:
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I'm sure many people follow this with anticipation of the next part or piece being constructed, so your far from boring people.
p.s. fancy posting up pictures of this becoming famed Caffeine and Machine outside and in, as we will try and get there some time.
In which case.........
Carved the hole in the spoiler for the third brake.
pattern made from sandwiched pieces of 10 x profiles cut in 12mm ply and 100mm polystyrene....
.......sanded to get the rough shape and covered in "Clag"....... shaped. It has curves on 3 planes........... i hate it lol
Chucked it on the car this evening, bodged some more foam on the ends so the spoiler will over sail the gap on the boot lid opening and sit on the rear quarters.
More clag and shaping, then its more moulds to make.
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I remember when mine looked similar to that once, eewwww at them lights!
8 " deep bumpers....yakky poos
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Spoiler in primer.
Need to be clever with the moulds on this one. gotta lay it up on both halves and then sandwich together, and fill with PU foam.
sounds messy!
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Nice. Keep the pics coming
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Will do, Ill do some stages of the moulding process.... it will be a new technique.... dunno how it will come out, could be a disaster lol
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First few bits of the mould laying up.
rest will get finished off tomorrow.
trying to decide where the parting lines is was interesting!
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Couple more, last bit of gel coat...... done for one day.
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Welp!
Design flaw on the mould, should have made it 3 piece not 2 piece.
Theres an undercut around the third brake light hole. Destroyed the pattern getting it out.
Basically trying to squeeze a pumpkin through a letterbox.
I was gonna cut the mould off the product, but i cant lay up that area properly, so ill purposely short shot it and repair the spoiler after it comes out the mould.
Oh well, cant win them all lol
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Bit o p38 right as rain...
Like i know not lol
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Bit o p38 right as rain...
Like i know not lol
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It may come to that lol
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I could rename the car and have the make and model on the log book say......
The isopon p38 lol
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I could rename the car and have the make and model on the log book say......
The isopon p38 lol
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I'm so losing interest at the mo. Its just constant filler, sandpaper and GRP.
I realize I have to do these bits before i can work on other stuff.
I just wanna drive it and enjoy it....... i hate working in sh** and dust everywhere.....
Ugh sorry! just getting frustrated......
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I just wanna drive it and enjoy it....... i hate working in sh** and dust everywhere.....
I really sympathise with this situation-----------------been there so many times :-[ like you say, just wanna drive it.
I so hope you finish this because as you know so so many cars become multiple garage fodder where they change hands again and again only to eventually disappear ::) I so so hope this car sees the light of day and wow's everyone out there, who can see the Jamie Experience in person.
Just last night, I heard of two RX-7 race cars up for sale after both changing hands having been bought with the best of intentions, I now wonder if either cars will ever see the light of day again !!
I so hope this car does not fall into this type of abyss.
Look I even found someone to help you get there
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I just wanna drive it and enjoy it....... i hate working in sh** and dust everywhere.....
I really sympathise with this situation-----------------been there so many times :-[ like you say, just wanna drive it.
I so hope you finish this because as you know so so many cars become multiple garage fodder where they change hands again and again only to eventually disappear ::) I so so hope this car sees the light of day and wow's everyone out there, who can see the Jamie Experience in person.
Just last night, I heard of two RX-7 race cars up for sale after both changing hands having been bought with the best of intentions, I now wonder if either cars will ever see the light of day again !!
I so hope this car does not fall into this type of abyss.
Look I even found someone to help you get there
Thanks for the kick up the a$$ Clive.
I don’t throw the towel in that easy. I’ll definitely finish it. No worries there.
I’ve put too much heart n soul into it.
I’ve got a surprise hopefully at the end of the month that will feed my rotary needs.
My gears are going a million miles an hour, I have so many ideas in my head that I want to build, I just want to finish this. I just need to turn a corner.
Just on a downer. Prolly cuz I didn’t have a very productive weekend. Then back to work . I’m a little more peppy tonight.... progress is good touch wood
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Here ya go,
2 layers of P38 lol ..... fasten the lotocones tomorrow, bolt the 2 halves together, fill inside with expanding PU foam and pray to Ganesha
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I just wanna drive it and enjoy it....... i hate working in sh** and dust everywhere.....
I really sympathise with this situation-----------------been there so many times :-[ like you say, just wanna drive it.
I so hope you finish this because as you know so so many cars become multiple garage fodder where they change hands again and again only to eventually disappear ::) I so so hope this car sees the light of day and wow's everyone out there, who can see the Jamie Experience in person.
Just last night, I heard of two RX-7 race cars up for sale after both changing hands having been bought with the best of intentions, I now wonder if either cars will ever see the light of day again !!
I so hope this car does not fall into this type of abyss.
Look I even found someone to help you get there
Thanks for the kick up the a$$ Clive.
I don’t throw the towel in that easy. I’ll definitely finish it. No worries there.
I’ve put too much heart n soul into it.
I’ve got a surprise hopefully at the end of the month that will feed my rotary needs.
My gears are going a million miles an hour, I have so many ideas in my head that I want to build, I just want to finish this. I just need to turn a corner.
Just on a downer. Prolly cuz I didn’t have a very productive weekend. Then back to work . I’m a little more peppy tonight.... progress is good touch wood
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My thoughts too excatly, I couldnt put my thoughts to words better that you did... Really strugling to get motivation, just wanna drive it soon...
These cars sometimes need good kick in to owners plums, if owner wants to finnish it someday 
Keep up the good work mate, I really want see this car finnished and live someday 
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Cheers Kaveri, it will get there soon.
Be a 2 year project this Xmas, I have to remind myself from time to time the work thats been done so far. Its not like I can go and buy a whojamawotsit for bast@rd love child of a Lotus-Mazda mongrel.
Im very lucky Emma is tolerant and she understands that it wont build itself. Not that she can chase me out the shed. I need to build a conveyor belt from the kitchen to the shed so she can send me down cheese n pickle sarnies hahaha.
So got up at ridiculous o clock.......
moulded the lotocones in. it must be a Lotus-term, as can find them on t'internet. I recycled these ones from bits of original bodywork I cut away and no longer needed. Theyre cast ally I think, I just drill them out and tap with metric thread.
Moulded in some ally strip so i can drill and tap later to mount the light.
They dont have any loading on them just enough GRP to hold them in place and stop twisting from doing up and undoing. They pull closer to the body work when you crank them up so they wont shear off.
thickened the critical areas that need a bit more beef.
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Keep at it.
I hit a downer when I was trying to sort the wiring on mine. Felt like it was taking forever. Truth was I was drinking whilst doing it :)
Then I turned 30, thought sh!t I've got to sort myself out. Plus the wife made a birthday cake which had the mx5 in pieces on.
That was sign I needed to lose weight and sort the car out
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Nothing like a motivational kick up the hind end from ya loved one.
That’s some pretty artistic stuff there, like Xbox hand controller lol
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Our cake lady is damn good
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Our cake lady is damn good
Yep, Damn good :happybirthday3:
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Nothing like a motivational kick up the hind end from ya loved one.
Projects can be tough going.
The RX-4 looked like this for maybe a year and it was Lisa who said to me to try and get it back together as the guys at Rotarystock would love to see the car finished. Gave me the kick I needed :13:
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a year?
In the words of George Formby......
...... turned out nice mother !
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Yep stick at it Jamie, judging by your other projects its gonna epic.
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Cheers Jon,
I hope so :icon_thumleft:
Apart from my RD400 project of turning pistons, barrels, carbs and exhausts back to front........ this has been the most technically challenging.
Looking at what I want to build next, this now seems quite basic.
Always pushing the boundaries of what a "shed built car" can be eh?
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So butter up the edges with gel coat, bolt the mould together and pour in the foam.....
Lets hope it comes apart in 1 piece tomorrow
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Yeah, we've all been there Jamie. I'm finding it hard to find the time and motivation to get on with KIMI 1. Every now and again I manage to do a small piece of work and thoroughly enjoy it, but it's tough keeping going with so many other demands on my time - and I'm retired, so goodness knows how you manage to do so well! Keep it up, looks great progress from my perspective :icon_thumleft:
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Well, thats a success! .....
Sand all the flashing off around the sides. General once over sanding.
I was expecting some repairs to do, but all thats wrong is its missing a bit of gel goat and you can see the resin. Its all smooth on the surface
Wasnt a easy demoulding, slow n steady wins the race! (Clives thinking does it hell! lol)
Happy with that....
Ill post more more when its mounted on the car
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Yeah, we've all been there Jamie. I'm finding it hard to find the time and motivation to get on with KIMI 1. Every now and again I manage to do a small piece of work and thoroughly enjoy it, but it's tough keeping going with so many other demands on my time - and I'm retired, so goodness knows how you manage to do so well! Keep it up, looks great progress from my perspective :icon_thumleft:
Thanks Malcolm.....
You could always sell KIMI 1 to me lol
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Well its on!
Im actually happy! shock horror........
Little fettling required..... even put a grommet in for the wiring for that professional touch lol.
Nice equal gaps, fitted some rivnuts and bolts so I can play around with different height gurney flaps on the top of the spoiler and theres a little ledge moulded in so the flaps are flush with the face of the spoiler when fitted.
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Love it!

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Getting there :wee_hee: Getting there :wee_hee: Getting there :wee_hee:
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Looks superb :icon_thumleft:
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Thanks chaps......
Look better with a lick of paint lol
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Welp.....amongst all the s**t at work...... god if I hear my name called one more time !!!!
anyway... breathe....im still working on the jam jar.
Had a small break from GRP and started making some wheel arch liners out of ali.
The originals were pre galv steel with a rubber trim around the outside. They are positioned in the front and rear wheel wells to cover up the steel sill members and to gain access by sliding them out the GRP sills into the wheel wells.
I kept the axle line centre on the back the same as the lotus set up. So now im running RX8 wheels there is little clearance.
Thankfully the rear wheels dont steer and if I set them with a bit of toe in ill get more clearance, Currently with 1/2"...... if I go off in the kitty litter i may get some debris stuck lol
Finished off the undertray too, covered up the fuel filter etc, stop all the crap off the wheels getting near them and some air deflectors to direct any air from around the tyre into the right directons.
On to the business end before we drop the car back on the floor. Its been on ramps since I started making the expanded foam wings many many months aso.
Bought some ducted backing plates from some nice guy on here. Gonna utilise the spent air from the oil coolers and help protect the back end of the coolers from getting debris flung at them.
I have a theory that because the stock oil coolers have a rubber shroud around them, the ambient temp isnt high enough to "warm" the discs from the spent air and the discs will be a higher temp......
It works in my head, if not in real life ill just disconnect the hose lol
So its back on the GRP and mocking it up in mud and junk...... I swear my heart pumps resin around my body.....
Anyway, done for one day, Im off to hopefully by another rotary ! :13: :13:
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Jamie your aluminium fabricating skills almost exceed those of your skill in moulding.
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Jamie your aluminium fabricating skills almost exceed those of your skill in moulding.
Cheers ole bean 
I’m quite fortunate we have a ac tig welder at work, a guillotine and a press brake.
It makes for easy work
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Damn, I was just going to say that yoo about alu work, but someone said it before me

Really good job mate.
I think Ill stop posting my alu work pics 

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Ah don’t be daft buddy.
I cheat by having the equipment around me it makes life easier, and I use lots and lots of cardboard templates first
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Really good job mate.
I think Ill stop posting my alu work pics
Don’t stop posting your work jarno. If you are not happy with the Ali work. You have the power to change it.
I feel bad when you put stuff like that bud. My posts are to hopefully inspire people to get dirty and create something. Certainly not to make them feel crap.
There are soooooo many car builders out there that I dream of having the skills to create something as equally beautiful as they do.
As the father in law stupidly says.... well Jamie, you’re getting better as you improve lol.
So let’s come off the topic of Ali, and go back to grp, cardboard and mud
First pass needs lots more filling and shaping yet to make them a mirror image.
And just keep at it jarno! I equally hope to see this monster fc one day(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191117/b0cb528eb6f802dc02bc18b1b4918f85.jpg)
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My work is crap basically cause I dont have tools. Some bad metal scirrors wont do the job...
Fortunatly I have friend(that rallycross dude) near who has skills are tools to do stuff. He has helped me alot especially designing stuff. And more important, how fabricate them easily so they are easy to remove and put on. Like these fmic alu stuff. Now we are planning to do some molds to get some fibreglass parts. He is glass fibre expert him self...
Yes, you project is really an inspiraation. Absolutely amazing thing to follow. 
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There you go, that’s what makes the world go round. Buddies mucking in together helping out one another.
Group of mates, a common interest. It gets it done. Keep going! Rally cross season over. All guns blazing
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Pair of snow shoes for Emma ?
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That’s the badger lol
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That will do for 1 weekend,
Back to the madhouse tomorrow
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Sorry for the stupid mad large pic on the last post..........dunno why it did that
Quick easy night tonight.
guide coat, sand, wax on, wax off (Mr Miaggi style) n gel coat. Lay it up tomorrow, fit Wednesday.
I'm hoping the aluminium turns up and get that cut bent and fitted before the weekend.
So the Rotus is coming down off the ramps this weekend. It went up on 24th Feb to start making the wings. 9 months almost!!!!
My 1 year anniversary on MRC this Sunday lol Id buy the cakes, but id eat them all myself lol
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Never mind the car....frame that checkerplate when you finish! Looks fantastic in the big picture. :)
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Never mind the car....frame that checkerplate when you finish! Looks fantastic in the big picture. :)
Lol
Industrial art ?
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Sign it banksy and screw to your outside garage wall....
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Filled a hole in the car (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191120/af33eb9df4248d91189b51ad4c1455a9.jpg)
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On it!
.... just not like a car bonnet.
Couldnt think of anything that rhymed with duct without swearing.
Anyway, they aint pretty.....yet..... but they fit and theyre on
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The eagle has landed.....
on terra firma after 9 months.
I forgot how much it hugs the floor and how low the roof is.
Its a kids pedal car !
All thats left is everything else
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Wow, just wow, looking really good Jamie :notworthy:
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Great to see it off its stilts :great:.
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Yup cheers guys.
Longggg way to go yet
1 relocate the air filter
2 make the rad fan exit ducts to suit the air intake position
3 make a new bonnet to suit the rad fan exit ducts
4 make the upper nose cone and headlight mounts
5 make the lower grill, intakes and splitter
6 practice the dark arts of wiring
Should take me up to spring
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Looks brilliant

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Epic build and looks good just as it is. :13: :)) Said it before your skill at moulding etc. is superb :sign0098:. Can't wait to see this driven in anger :notworthy:.
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Yep looking good.....
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Cheers fella
One lightweight door fitted
I’m gonna have to weld in door bars which will help as a perch to sit on as I get in (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191122/7a4ea44874d2c3f38b12deeb9a978a70.jpg)
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Air intake plumbed
Don’t panic the back of the fans will have ducting to no warm air will be fed into the filter(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191122/30df82cb0a233472921e2542815277df.jpg)
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Epic build and looks good just as it is. :13: :)) Said it before your skill at moulding etc. is superb :sign0098:. Can't wait to see this driven in anger :notworthy:.
Thank you sir.
They would be much better quality moulds if I was doing multiple castings, but it's make a mould, product, store the mould in case I prang the car lol
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King size trivial pursuit or polystyrene cake tins.....
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First thing I thought, before I even saw your comment, was "Triv" ;D
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I dare you to fire the fans up, the whole street will think its snowing :)) :))
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I dare you to fire the fans up, the whole street will think its snowing :)) :))
Hahaha
There’s about 10000000 white balls all over the floor already.
I’ve got the hot wire cutter out now
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When you wonder why (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191124/a4c25dd7ffbd01cfc1da15b0a7ea862a.jpg)Emma’s snow shoes are twisted in body, then you realise the fans are offset by an inch on the fan shroud
.... it’s the little things that send the biggest challenges
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Yay back on 4 wheels!
That exhaust setup is crying out for a turbo!
Happy to help with wiring.
I think the wiring guide is on here
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Lol no turbo for me bud, not on this project anyways.
I can just about get my head around all the solenoids and flaps on this thing.
I think there will be enough oomph for the weight of the car. I don’t want any funny surprises mid corner. Haha
Cheers for the support on the wiring.
I need to put that job off as long as I can lol it sends me cold
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Anyone for a slice of coffee and polystyrene cake ? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191124/52c5d02f80962f3ddd17d9d48a542761.jpg)
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Reminiscing when R2D2 used to be a Siamese twin !
Taking shape.
Due to space constraints, I need to mock up the pattern in 3 pieces, remove and then bond together off the car.
Product will be in 2 pieces. Will need to mock up the new bonnet in parallel with the exit duct so there is good flow out the car.
Lots to do.
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I just saw 2 big boobies....prob says more about me than anything else...
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Lol no me n the FIL call it the Dolly Parton duct
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I saw boobies too... :13:
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Man Boobs :13:
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Change of plan.......
The air intake system and the rad outlet duct have been having a fight over space, the air intake won.
Keeping the boobies but the Rad outlet is coming out the nose cone now.
So fitted the original bonnet, hinged it, and the air intake and the bonnet had a fight over space, the air intake won.
The bonnet will be original release catches at the rear edge but on locating dowels on the front, so it will be a lift off bonnet.
Trouble is with a wedge shaped front end like the FB. Struggling for room everywhere...... Gotta fit my electric water pump somewhere....
Build schedule will change, on the bonnet build now.....
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Going away the weekend, leggy going to it's new home on Sunday.
Try and get some pics done middle of next week
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Bonnet on and kind of aligned.
Trying to incorporate the shape of the engine cover into the bonnet.
More polystyrene and mud ahead lol
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Are you going for the muscle car shaker hood look?
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Nope more of a power bulge
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But I’m failing to understand why I can’t just leave it like this
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Taking shape (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191204/48f25f149a567a1143808783a75f0b10.jpg)
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Basic shape done
Stage 2 .........
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Renesis air scoop
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Almost like it grew there
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Interesting :13:
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Lol in a good way ? Or ya not convinced?
I need to put something on top. It was getting too pointy in the middle to clear the engine.
Breaks it up a bit I thought.
There will be a cut out at the back to try n cool the exhaust a bit. Either the renesis cover or a naca duct.
The outer edge of the cover matches the contour of the bonnet quite well....... it will do for now lol
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I think it will give the car more identity :great:
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Certainly a nod to what’s under the bonnet if ya can’t tell
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Lol in a good way ? Or ya not convinced?
Good way - that's why a :13:, - nice hint to what's underneath :icon_thumleft:
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It’s all annoying me now.
Got the basic shape, but I’m being really fussy about curvatures. Doing one side is easy. Getting the other half identical is a nightmare
It’s compound curves on 2 planes .
Imagine giving someone a 1 foot cube of polystyrene and a sanding block and say make a perfect sphere. With no flat spots ......
Grrrrr
And ive used £120 of body filler so far and another 30 quid tomorrow.
It makes great adhesive tho lol
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Xmas come early this year 


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I know you will do your homework on this one, but I used this type of set up a year ago and abandoned it, because of a minor little detail, like I couldn't stop the car !.
Allegedly the set up was for an RX-8, however the pedal was absolutely rock hard which indicated to me that the master cylinders were too big.
Problem with the race car is I couldn't just run it up n down the road to develop the system so out it went.
Like I said, I know you will do your homework :great:
(In the old days, most used Hillman Imp Cylinders for these conversions)
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Welp,
This is a universal set up for anything really, due to space constraints I need the M/C's coming back into the cockpit to which there will be a heel plate over the top.
Interestingly, the M/C's that come with it as standard are 0.625" for the front and 0.75" for the rear. Funnily exactly the same I had for my red top powered Mk1 escort donkeys years ago on a homemade bias pedal box.
From what I remember the brakes were phenomenal on my escort with no servo. I was running Austin Princess 4 pots on front and sierra calipers on the rear.
I know a lot can do with bore sizes (area) of each caliper piston in comparison to how much fluid each M/C can move.
As a ratio between front and rear, I know the bore sizes of the M/C's are right but I havnt gone to deep in calculating the total area of pistons in comparison at this stage. But theres a simple formula I have from my days at college doing fluid dynamics to work that out.
As you rightly said, you dont have the luxury of road test shakedown, and need to drive in anger from the start.
I have the luxury or buying different bore sizes of M/Cs if need be. My gut feeling from experience, is it "should" be fine, or certainly as a starter for 10.
Ill let you know either way.
My biggest concern is floor mounted brake with top hung RX8 loud pedal.......... Ive never had the need to practice heel and toe braking and changing down on the road.
And at my driving abilty on the track ( or lack of) , Ill probably still not need it for several months/years.
I just hope the funny arrangement doesnt hinder the option.
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I just hope the funny arrangement doesnt hinder the option.
I have faith in you grasshopper / nope to young to remember that then ;)
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Lol nope it finished airing about 12 months before I was born
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Ahh, but you knew what film I meant :))
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That's karate kid, i remember that.....
I thought gas shopper was from Kung fu.........
I've just noticed the predictive text on grasshopper and I'm purposely leaving it as gas shopper is funnier lol
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Here ya go jon.....
..... notes from college on plcs and control functions.....
Saw this n thought, Jon that poor guy !
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Good lord ! 
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Ladder logic is ace! So much simpler than Siemens. My favourite was Telemecanique literal code...first i learnt....i hardly do any plc work now ..tiny bit of mitsi....
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Like I said, I know you will do your homework :great:
So, contrary to my comments yesterday, the rear M/C is 0.7" not 0.75" I got confused with the clutch M/C, that said the escort one was still 0.75"
Anyway, rx8 front calipers have a piston diameter of 51mm and the rears are 42.9mm. Front M/C has a diameter of 15.875mm and the rears 17.78mm
Pressure applied to the brake pedal will be equal across each M/C, not to be confused with travel in mm.
So using the force ratio formula, if I applied 100 N to the brake pedal, then there will be 51472 N applied to the front discs and 32518 N
Hence more force to the Fronts as you'd expect.
Havnt worked out the travel required on each M/C yet, but I bet the piston travel is probably less than 2mm - 3mm to pull it up to a halt.
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Please take into account the servo because as you know this greatly increases pedal pressure.
If you have tried to stop a car servo equipped car without the engine running, the pedal goes rock hard and this is how the race car felt.
In other words without a servo I was unable to apply enough pedal pressure to stop the car!
From memory you need smaller bore cylinders to exert more pressure to the calipers.
Hope this helps.
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Yup totally agree, you are correct.
0.625" is the smallest bore available from obp ( I think from most other places) and is generally allocated for the front system.
The only other options are 0.7 (rears) 0.75 (clutch) 0.85 (oooof) and 1" if you have legs like Ronnie Coleman and can leg press 850kgs in the gym.
Another variable in the mix is the amount of weight you're trying to pull up, the same pedal system from your 8 in Jons westy maybe have different results in terms of stopping distance with the same "lack of feel" or excessive pressure required to even slow down.
You have not suggested this but in case of other readers following this thread and wanting to set the record straight. A popular misconception is servos make brakes better. Nope, the caliper performance, pad compound, disc size remains the same. A servo just reduces the amount of effort required to press the pedal to achieve the same braking performance.
Anyhow, we've mentioned his name.....
Jon? What size m/c's are you running in the westy, and how do find it in a car under 1000 kgs?
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Westy brakes are awesome!!! Ill have to look in the lever arch file for the specs. I changed the front calipers and discs when i went done to 13". I gave Wilwood the specs as i run a Tilton floor mounted clutch brake that came with the car. The brake part has 2 masters 1 for front 1 for rear with an adjustable balance bar. 2 seperate systems. Ill get numbers and post later.
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As you say, some people would not realise the Servo is for pedal pressure assistance only.
The race car was nothing to do with weight as I couldn't stop the thing properly even at 10mph
Jon's cylinder specs should give a base but his caliper pistons will be a different sizes so maybe take that into account,
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Yup I can calculate that,
Jon if possible can you let me know the diameter of pistons and whether they are 4 pot calipers etc ?
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Indeed
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I don’t think that looks too offensive now it’s been levelled off a bit.
Sand a uniform 4mm gap around the perimeter then it’s primer time
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Hi mate ref brakes...the info not in my folder
. May have worked its way into some folders in garage...ill have a look in few days when i venture into garage.
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No stress .... as n when
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Shiny shiny
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Don't look too bad tbh
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Put another 2 coats on this morning.
Block it down flat later.
I’ll make the mould next week.
Picking up my new toy tomorrow
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Uncovered a couple of high spots but it’s smooth like glass 

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Gel coat on.
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Looking good Jamie :13:
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Another masterpiece :00123101:
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Cheers chaps
I was hoping for the mould to be simple on this one, looks like it's gonna have to be 2 piece so I can it get product out afterwards
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Wow I'm impressed
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Let's not count our chickens yet bud.
Gotta get product out yet, fit the steel structure into the new skin, get the bonnet catches to align and maintain the gaps all round.
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Have a very Merry Rotary Xmas all
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Well that’s annoying, come to work on modifying the pedal box to accept the brake and clutch pedal switches and they’re no where to be found. Pffft
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Anyone shed any light.........
...... no not on the where abouts of my switches.
1, Looking at the brake light switch (on t'interweb) it seems just a normal 2 pin switch........ will a universal one suffice?
2, The clutch has a switch im guessing to do something to the idle........... but im noticing it has a second switch which engages when depressed, it this to cancel cruise control or something? Or are both switches required to operate the engine correctly?
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The brake switch is normally open in the brake pedal off position..when you press the brake an internal spring and plunger come out and the switch closes. And brake lights come on...on newer cars there is another switch for cruise control or summit...not a concern for you.
Also the Pcm has an input from the brake pedal for the pcm 20 brake stomp reset procedure.
Clutch same deal but inputs into pcm to raise rev sorta anti stall inconjuntion with the gearbox neutral switch.
But if going to map it id highly recommend a base idle increase to 1100rpm. An then the clutch switch is redundant.
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Okies.....
I’ll stick with the stock switches.... already lined up big Pete for some spares as can’t find mine, I’ll cut the brackets off the stock pedal boxes and weld them to the new pedal box


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Need a whole assembly that can slide forward n back to suit the shorter driver.
Loud pedal needs to move with it to.
Mocked it up in ply. Will transfer the dims to summat more substantial.
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Try n get the brake in throttle pedal as close together as poss...and maybe fatten the throttle pedal with some alloy plate to make heel toe easier..i struggled with my little size 8 feet and race boots..
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I’ve seen various techniques.
Do YOU literally put ball of your foot on brake and heel on the loud pedal.
I’ve seen ppl rolling their foot to the right also.
Tbf moving the accelerator closer helps as I can shift the whole assembly to the right the column can run above but between the clutch n brake
OBP do an extended wider brake pedal to make heel n toe easier but I could just move the go faster one inwards
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Soz got engrossed in a film...
My little 8 feet cant do the toe brake heel blip throttle...my ankle joint clicks badly so i brake with big toe and role little toe side of foot onto accelerator. Hence need for closeness.
Plenty of you tube how tos.
Im learning left foot braking at mo as the civic has no lsd...its weird as plenty of feel in tight foot for brake modulation but zero in left foot...
I remember learing to ride a motorbike and it felt alien...but ive not been on a bike for 8 years plus and i just know i could get on and ride....
Try it on way to work?
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Yeah I've tried down the lanes and just face planted the steering wheel trying to" blip the brake" or rev the tits off it on hard braking lol
It's not impressive in front of people......
.... Practice makes perfect I guess
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Thing is never needed it other than mechanical sympathy until i got the westy....then thing was frustratingly undrivable as every time on track braking and downshifting to enter a corner id brake downshift turn in and then rear would lock and sideways...
Not very fast atall lol.
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I suppose as a rotary it likes to rev anyway. It's not like your gonna jump a tooth on a cam belt when you let the clutch out. Locking up the back end is summat completely out there..... You need to eat a few more turkeys buddy and keep it planted lol.
Once perfected I'm sure it's very satisfying.
The amount of cars on the roads today makes it nigh on impossible to find a stretch of road to be able to be hard on the brakes for the next corner without Doris in her Citroen c1 getting in the way and start indicating left and then turning right, then becoming a victim of my vile temper and you realise it's probably not her fault. We've all followed a French turd with dodgy electrics.
The roads around Rhayader going out over elan valley (see what I did there? ) are impressive. But the Welsh authorities do love a speed camera or three. Not being derogatory Wayne, but having coppers in the family and the stories I hear, I'm sure a few Welsh coppers have bets on how many English drivers they can book in a month loll.
One thing I have noticed with the 8 is it wants you to lose your licence lol. It wants to rev, you want to oblige and you find yourself breaking the law in every gear. If when you get to 60 or 70 and you lift off, instead of a buzzer from the car you almost hear a little sigh of disappointment. The 8 is like the naughty kid who used to live down the road that your parents hated. He dares you to do it, and you do, then you get in trouble, and he sherks the responsibility onto you....
Anyway, I'm now warbling, it's time to get up and have some meds
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When getting right position for those pedals, if you are going to do heal and toe thingie, remember that your are braking allready when you try to flip accelerator...
Bugger, that sounded weird...
I mean, accelerator should be positioned quite low when its off. Dammit! I cant explain it...
If you are allready on the brake pedal, you foot just wont go so up high...
Dammit!!! I just cant explain what I mean, hope you understand my point?
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My opinion is that, that accelator pedal should be in vertical position. And a bit further front of the brake pedal. However, when you at full throttle, it goes to weird position, so some kind of hinge thingie is needed.

Anyhoo, heal and toe is quite hard to master correctly, so wouldnt worry about that...
Also Jon said about left foot braking. In track racing, especially with rear wheel drive cars it isnt so important...
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I’ve seen various techniques.
Do YOU literally put ball of your foot on brake and heel on the loud pedal.
I’ve seen ppl rolling their foot to the right also.
Tbf moving the accelerator closer helps as I can shift the whole assembly to the right the column can run above but between the clutch n brake
OBP do an extended wider brake pedal to make heel n toe easier but I could just move the go faster one inwards
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I’d get the Bigger throttle pedal base . I put the OMP one on my 8 , don’t put the throttle pedal too close to the brake mind . I did just that , hit the brakes hard going into bobbies at the RX8 OC track day earlier this year , big size 12 also caught the throttle sending the car sideways towards the big tyres on entry .it was rather close lol , straight back to pits move it back 10 mm and it was much better , 12 mm was perfect . As Mr boasted said , it also depend on size of foot , footwear etc . I only heel on downshift braking to keep the rear a bit more stable
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Thanks Wayne, jarno, and Jon.
I'll have a play in the new year.
Gotta make an aluminium tray to mount it all on first.
I hate chequer plate in cars, but it's the only piece large enough I have laying around that will do.
Mounting these pedals on a piece of 1.2mm thick fibreglass floor ain't gonna do much in terms of feel and is probably dangerous .....
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So idea.....
Rather than move the accelerator further back to go even further into the headers I’ll make a jig to locate the pedal position on relation to the brake on the 8.
Rotate the accelerator about the pedal and move the mounting forward which allows me to easily move the pedal back and give clearance on the headers.... the wiring for the fly by wire can then stay in the cockpit.
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OK, this will be like teaching granny how to suck eggs, but I have said this to many people many times.
Having built many cars from a body shell upwards, to me the very first job is getting the seat, pedals and steering wheel in the correct position, because changes after can be difficult and obviously if the three items aren't suited to you then you will not drive the car comfortably and more importantly "quickly"
Even on the RX-8 I remember making three sets of seat brackets before I was happy with the position.
I also use a packer on top of the brake pedal.
Years ago with throttle cables I even used to change pivot positions so I could feel the throttle how I wanted.
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No Clive it’s a very valid point.
Wish I had thought of it earlier. Certainly before making the cage. I would have done it differently around my head. Anyway ....
The build is a toss up between getting the body mounted properly and trying to think 10 steps ahead of what gets affected by each build stage.
The biggest issue with this build is the sheer lack of space with a lotus and trying to cram all the parts from a modern car in it.
We will get there.....
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So idea.....
Rather than move the accelerator further back to go even further into the headers I’ll make a jig to locate the pedal position on relation to the brake on the 8.
Rotate the accelerator about the pedal and move the mounting forward which allows me to easily move the pedal back and give clearance on the headers.... the wiring for the fly by wire can then stay in the cockpit.
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Thats a good plan. But still, you have to figure out some kind of joint or something to that pedal, cause when in full throttle, that pedal goes to weird position... :)
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So idea.....
Rather than move the accelerator further back to go even further into the headers I’ll make a jig to locate the pedal position on relation to the brake on the 8.
Rotate the accelerator about the pedal and move the mounting forward which allows me to easily move the pedal back and give clearance on the headers.... the wiring for the fly by wire can then stay in the cockpit.
Thats a good plan. But still, you have to figure out some kind of joint or something to that pedal, cause when in full throttle, that pedal goes to weird position... :)
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Trust me, I'm a doctor........
.........or a mad scientist......
Ok so I have a white jacket with really long sleeves........
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Jamie, the Mad Scientist.........
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Lol! what a handsome fellow
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Home till Thursday
Stuck our own gazebo over the hot tub
Gotta love a bit of Wales
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Just a thought,
To gain more room in the footwell, maybe if you mount the pedals upside down you can get the pedal pads closer to the floor and also lower the throttle pedal assembly ?.
If nothing else it may give a more comfortable driving position.
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I like the thought, unfortunately I had to buy floor mounted pedals with the m/c’s cockpit mounted.
The roll cage actually serves several purposes outside of the obvious of roll over protection. It also ties the steel sill members back to the backbone chassis with 6 transverse bars across the floor. One of which is at the furthest forward area at the bottom of the bulkhead.
This is the reason for m/c’s poking back into the cockpit.
The second reason for my choice of pedal box is the shape of my bulkhead.
Most cars, the bulkhead comes straight up from the floor to the bottom of the windscreen.
On the old elan ( and the baby elan and the Anglia 105e) the bulkhead is stepped.
It comes up, back towards the driver then up again. As per photo.
Admittedly the original lotus pedal box was top hung ( see the rectangular hole in the highlighted circle) but it wasn’t the best and flexed.
Thrown into the mix..... a renesis engine.
Yup I take on your point fully of driver position and 100% agree.
My only option with this chassis/body/engine combo was to bring the headers up into the engine bay taking up the room once used by a pedal box.
Believe me I spent hours under the car trying to run 3 pipes 38mm in diameter under the car, around the gearbox. Didn’t work.
It won’t beat me Clive. I WILL have this driving position comfier than a velvet chaise lounge in a Thai massage parlour 

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Home till Thursday
Stuck our own gazebo over the hot tub
Gotta love a bit of Wales
looks lovely and some great roads too
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Typical English tourists
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Anyone hazard a guess ??
Bet Wayne will know .....
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I wouldn’t I’m South . Your probably quite north , only been up that far once in last 10’years and that was to Anglesey circuit in the summer . If you are north , parthmaddog is real nice , well looked it driving though lol
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Wales?
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Aberystwyth..... we’re doing “antiques roadshow†as were taking the in-laws out. Borth next and then ynyslas
Rock n roll baby
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I’ve seen it all now..... a mountain bike cyclist with his right leg amputated at the groin. What if he leans the wrong way ???
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Nice scenery around those parts :great:
We did a trip to Aber (Gwyn's parents hail from there), taking in the Elan Valley, back in 2010. Great driving roads for the RX-8!
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Yup , went through the valley to collect the Subaru, definitely coming back in the 8.
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There is a very strong possibility I shall be getting twisted on homemade damson gin and other bladder loosening liquids in the hot tub later, so....
Just wanted to thank all who have given help, advice, encouragement and needless to say inspiration on my project build over the past 12 months.
This year has been much more involved than anticipated, with bodywork n crap. I'm hoping for the next 12 months to see it with paint on and a fresh engine in place.
On that note, have a super 2020 everyone, and happy big birthday Mazda.
J.
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....and happy big birthday Mazda.
Ah, you spotted my forum header handiwork then? ;)
Enjoy the hot tub and boozy evening :occasion16:
We have yet to crack open a bottle of champagne, currently chilling in the fridge, so that will go down nicely later for a quiet evening at home.
I've thoroughly enjoyed watching progress on your project Jamie, and admired your fabrication skills :You_Rock_Emoticon:
Wishing you, Emma and family a very Happy 2020 :occasion18: :occasion18:
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Ahhhhh civilisation or at least through this forum.
Nearly spent 24 hours in bed. Freezing cold and shivering yet dripping with sweat, bed soaked ugh it’s minging.
Had water flying out of every orifice all night. Ugh. Just started to feel slightly more human.
Must be the welsh water lol
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You been chatting up the sheep?

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Lol summat like that
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Modded the pedal box some more.
Cut the tabs off the 8 pedal boxes and grafted them on to my pedal box. Original switches just click into place as per stock.
Got my accelerator in the right position now as per the 8 set up.
I just need to remake the whole lot again in something more substantial than wood.
I don’t think I’m convincing anyone that this is a Morgan
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There you go, you have already started your non bodywork year :)
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Ah won’t last long, got another 20 litres of resin turning up tomorrow.
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20 litres
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Got through about 80 litres so far lol.
Dashboard
Centre console
Floor mods
4 wings
4 inner wings
Boot floor
Diffuser
Spoiler
Soon get through it when you have to make moulds as well
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Well....
Back on it, like a car bonnet...... literally.
One of the hardest parts I’ve had to de-mould. So much surface area all gripping.
Look at that definition and crisp edges on the renesis shape 
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The only thing that hurts more than heartache is an inch fibreglass splinter that goes up behind your fingernail
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Ouch!
Bonnet work looking great though :sign0098:
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Question......
So had the rear tyres light up a couple of times in the 8 and the trusty dsc kicked in.
Assuming this is monitored by the wheel sensors, I’m wanting to know how it is controlled???
Does the ecu kill ignition to suppress engine power or does the braking system control it or both?
I’m asking because I’m not running wheel sensors in the rotus because I’m not running the stock brake set up so abs etc is out the window.
If it just kills the ignition I may consider refitting wheel sensors.
Power to weight will be higher in the lighter car and while I’m all for stripping a car back to its bare essentials. I don’t want to leave this planet spinning 720 degrees and turning into a big ball of fire on my first bend of spirited driving.....
Just wondered how Jon’s westy is on traction on the rear end on the throttle ???
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In that situation the throttle is closing itself off to limit the wheel spin
I ended up disconnecting my wheel sensors on the race car as the car had no power even going along the straights ;)
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Ah ok so if it controls the throttle then the refit of sensors may be an option.
I’m certainly not in your hp league so I doubt I’ll be lighting wheels up on the straights
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In part answer to your query Jamie.
It was a weird experience on a skidpan in my RX-8 shortly after I bought the car. An instructor asked me to deliberately get the car into a spin and then FLOOR THE THROTTLE ??? (but with DSC fully on ;)). I thought that's madness, but sure enough, ZERO response to the throttle whilst the DSC corrected the spin by independently braking on the wheels. Felt really weird that the engine just wouldn't rev whilst the DSC was sorting out the issue. It was massively educational to have multiple runs down the skidpan with the DSC on and then off to see just how clever the system was. Not foolproof, but was far better than me at controlling the skid until I got the hang of my first RWD car!
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Ahhh so it does work through the brakes also.
That will explain the block connector that goes to the aluminium housing that all the brake lines go to in the engine bay.
Thanks for the response Malcolm.
Ok so at least I can get partial driver assistance maybe. Sounds like a bit of trial and error and keeping the wiring for the wheel sensors. I may have to introduce some fudge factor to fool the ecu for the omission of the aluminium brake module thingy.
Or learn how to control my right foot better on the accelerator
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Strip it all out and stop being a big Nancy!!! The systems are set up for an rx8 and i believe would prob be detrimental on the Rotus as they turn out tobeon Clives car when the power doubled.
Westy has none thats what makes it great.
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Lol just future proofing
I’ve made too many project vehicles where I’ve stripped everything down to the bare essentials and gone....... oh if only I had done xyz.
A Nancy boy it is then 
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Mmm not sure how gonna do that?...not abs but retain traction control?.
Ill have to look at drawings...i expect the signal to cut throttle comes from abs to pcm via canbus. So youd need x4 working abs sensors...the abs block would need to see pedal pressure else it will fault...
Mmmm thinking cap on.
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Aluminium block thingy....with loads of wires? Thats the abs module...all the wheel speed sensors go there among other things...
If has an internal pressure sensor and if that is showing zero will fault...
Maybe simpler to retain whole lot use the block....your pedal box dual or single master?....as the abs module set the front rear bias also....
Lots of headaches Nancy!!!
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Needs Paul input as hes retained the abs dsc etc...youll need the yaw and the steering angle sensor 2 me thinks...
Ill get my head in drawings later.
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Don’t stress about it. I was looking for a simple fix. My immediate intention at the start is rip the whole lot out.
It’s only recently I’ve noticed how easy it is to get the dsc to kick in on the 8.
If it all too complicated I’ll just train my right foot on the gas or feather it out of bends.
If it was a simple set up of just controlling the throttle body that’s one thing, if brakes are involved I’m not putting the complete stock set up back on there is physically no room
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Its prob your rear tyres on the 8....my Westy on the road will only step out if i provoke it...

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Oh to be fair, they are probably some Chang sung specials with badly perished side walls and are as hard as nails
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Yep thatll do it...maybe see whats on front and if better swap front to rear...my s type from tim was on budgets ...i swapped the car onto team dyanamic with et50 offset and bridgestones...handled mega then on the road...no so on track s type jdm import very soft suspension...it need a keel and come...i feel out of seat lean so bad.
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I was gonna get the stock alloys refurbed on the 8 and get new tyres at the same time, secondly, they will do for putting wets on for the lotus.
Getting the whole car valeted inside n out on the 16th, so Ill get the alloys done after.
any opinion on colour.... Strato Blue with either Dark grey, satin black, or a bronze/gold? I really dislike the stock silver
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I have one set of satin black wheels and one set of glossy dark grey, which I think work well with the titanium grey.
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Gloss black.!
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White looks nice
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White ?? Reminds me of the old compomotive MO’s they fitted to rally cars.
I’ll google it to see some examples..... I don’t think I’m that brave to be honest Wayne lol
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Better than I thought to be honest Wayne
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White looks nice .......for 5 mins...
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Gold a bit chav tastic?
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Bonnet done with a couple of extra ducts.
Steel work back on.
There’s 2 aluminium dowels that go into 2 adjustable plates.
Just gotta adjust all the heights
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Phone playing up,
couple more
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Adjusted and on. And I can see exhaust through the extra vents
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That'll certainly get the air straight to the right places by the looks of it!
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Indeed. I’m getting the exhaust pipes in the engine bay ceramic coated but every bit of cooling helps.
Hopefully the high pressure in the engine bay will help push cool air down the transmission tunnel and keep the gearbox cool.
More vents going in on the aluminium floor too to help with the gearbox.
Already one in the diffuser for the differential.
Trying to think of as many things now before I finish it and have to start choppin n changing after.
Slow n steady will win this race
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False floor / pedal box complete.
Nice n rigid and lightweight.
70mm fore and aft adjustment for shorties and 25mm side to side adjustment.
Got the pedal relationship set up like the 8
Feels comfy too
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Nice metalwork Jamie :icon_thumleft:
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Nice metalwork Jamie :icon_thumleft:
Makes a change from plastic pig material lol
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I like the idea of the sotted floor so you can adjust the assembly fore and aft :great:
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Thanks Clive :icon_thumleft:
I originally started planning little screw jacks on all thread with a tiny electric motor from a drill.
But it would need guides to slide down. All sounds too complicated. So 3 cup square bolts so they dont turn in slots is quick and lightweight.
I stole the idea of a moving pedal box from a pic I saw of a chassis from a new Morgan 3 wheeler. But they had pre determined positions, not slots. Looked like the bolts come through the underside of the floor too.....not ideal.
I really hate chequer plate, but I have loads of it lying around, and it really works by gripping the pedal box when I tighten the bolts and stop it sliding backwards when pressing the brake hard. I dare say you don't want the pedal box moving when going down the road.
Again space is expensive real estate here. The dog leg bends to the right of the accelerator allow the pedal box to fit past the roll cage and give me space for my hooves.
I'll take some more pics when it's in situ.
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Heres a few shots
Closest to driver and over 25mm to the left to miss the roll cage.
Furthest back and over to the right so the steering column goes above but between the clutch and brake so theres no risk of contact when you press the pedals.
Need to make a new flitch in the engine bay to cover it all up now ive got clearances, and also miss the headers......
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looking smart mate. :) :sign0098:
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Cheers Jon.........
..... just wanna drive the bloody thing
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Really neat looking Jamie :13:
seriously :sign0098:
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Cheers Jon.........
..... just wanna drive the bloody thing
I know that feeling all to well...time and patience and attention to detail means less niggles and teething problem later on as you well know.
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Filled my hole up, oooo errrrr missus
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What a diff 24 hours makes. Yesterday a grotty gaping hole.
Small pin hole repair on the corner and cut a hole for a an access panel.
Yeah I know..... fill one huge hole to cut out another lol
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Some silicone and rivets will sort that
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Recycling , upcycling, reducing my carbon foot print, bodging,
The 8’s fuel filler flap lever and cable mounted somewhere near the original will open the boot lid 

#skinflint
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So..... one of the bad things about this build that is suddenly getting apparent..........
Stock Lotus trim parts are £££££££££
2 bits of steel that hold the 1/4 light glass in place ... LH and RH ..... £90+VAT
pffffttttt
dont even have a decent original as a pattern to make one from. bite the bullet on that one
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Tiger seal the 1/4 glass in..

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Too late already purchased
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Sorry if it’s all gone in here
Lots happening just busy with the pattern for the rad vent.
It’s not the most optimum and perfect shape, but it works with the confines of the small front end.
Chuck the hot air out above the bonnet and not into the engine bay
It will be one clearer when fitted
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Sorry new phone............
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Boobies again

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Hooray for boobies !
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Boobies!
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Booooooobieeeeeesssss :P :))
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So my boobies are primed, blocked and waxed.
Gel coat next then the itchy stuff......
No mould required for this. The GRP laid on this pattern will be the product.
Nice and smooth on the inside of the vent
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Had my first drive out in an FB yesterday.
Pleasantly surprised with the performance. Stock 12a goes well.
Lots of quirks which just adds to the overall charm :icon_thumright:
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Lol owned 1 but never driven 1.
My first rotary experience was a passenger ride in a FC turbo convertible. Went like stink compared to my Nissan Sunny Gti lol.
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Lol owned 1 but never driven 1.
My first rotary experience was a passenger ride in a FC turbo convertible. Went like stink compared to my Nissan Sunny Gti lol.
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It’s reaallllyyy retro inside but still tasteful.
The funniest thing is the redline buzzer.
The tone is just like an 80s quiz show when the contestant gets the question wrong. Lol
It’s more aggressive than the 8s buzzer haha
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My mate who had the fc..used to drive the fc off the driveway to the road to get his fzr600 out to go for a ride. Then the FC would not start....the time b4 internet...
He got rid of it becuase of that...
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The funniest thing is the redline buzzer.
The tone is just like an 80s quiz show when the contestant gets the question wrong. Lol
It’s more aggressive than the 8s buzzer haha
Yep, it's a really tacky sounding buzzer, after you've got used to the smooth RX-8 version!
Good to hear you've got to drive an FB Jamie. :icon_thumleft:
Did you notice the rather poor steering, given there is no rack, just a box?
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The funniest thing is the redline buzzer.
The tone is just like an 80s quiz show when the contestant gets the question wrong. Lol
It’s more aggressive than the 8s buzzer haha
Yep, it's a really tacky sounding buzzer, after you've got used to the smooth RX-8 version!
Good to hear you've got to drive an FB Jamie. :icon_thumleft:
Did you notice the rather poor steering, given there is no rack, just a box?
Sorry Malcolm I should have worded it better. I wasn’t behind the wheel. Just out for a drive . Although I was offered. I declined because I’d feel awful if the worst happened.
The driver was (James GT)..... his white fb. I think it’s a series 3 ???? ‘85, ‘86 maybe.
Didn’t have the delight of the steering box although I’ve driven an anglia, so just as bad no doubt.
I was in the area so we were chewing the fat over doing a lightweight grp roof skin so he can delete the sunroof on his yellow one. He’s prepping it in readiness for some classic car championship.
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:icon_thumleft: Ah, the passenger experience :great:
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Had my first drive out in an FB yesterday.
Pleasantly surprised with the performance. Stock 12a goes well.
Lots of quirks which just adds to the overall charm :icon_thumright:
Power to Weight ratio n all that.
If your liking an older Rotary, your really coming over to the dark side now ;D ;D
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Had my first drive out in an FB yesterday.
Pleasantly surprised with the performance. Stock 12a goes well.
Lots of quirks which just adds to the overall charm :icon_thumright:
Power to Weight ratio n all that.
If your liking an older Rotary, your really coming over to the dark side now ;D ;D
I’ve always preferred the old Skool look of the rotary, certainly in comparison to the renesis. Beehive oil cooler/warmer under the filter.
I thought pistons were the dark side lol
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I just love FBs. My passion for rotarys started because of FB.

Even tho that steering is, well crap, that car still is superior compared to any other produced in that era... 
Even tho that little 12A might be low on power, behiviour of that engine is awesome, she just wanna rev... 
Suspension and chassis of FB is unbelievable. Even with that shite steering box. You can go to corners like nutcase and survive
not to mention how good that chassis is on gravel
Lähetetty minun G8141 laitteesta Tapatalkilla
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Pleasantly surprised with the performance. Stock 12a goes well.
Wait til we got for a spin in the turbo, bro! ;) Can hardly hear the buzzer over the wastegate screamer pipe >:D
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Pleasantly surprised with the performance. Stock 12a goes well.
Wait til we got for a spin in the turbo, bro! ;) Can hardly hear the buzzer over the wastegate screamer pipe >:D
Get that back axle in Jesse, summer is coming, oh and you need to get on the track at jdm too 
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So, we've mutilated the fans and shroud, to get the product off.
But my boob job is done !!!
Some more sanding and tarting up on the outside required before primer. But inside nice and smooth.
Holes to cut in it yet for the radiator air to come out, but Ill do that after.
Fitted to the spare fans Ive got, fits a treat :13:
In case anyone was wondering, the air filter goes up the big hole in the centre so only cool air goes in that and the hot air goes outside.
Happy days.
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Why have you got a picture of a pedestral drill on the wall?

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Why have you got a picture of a pedestral drill on the wall?

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I REALLY like drills ! Lol
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A light coat of etch works wonders to the appearance.
And it wipes out a few brain cells from the voc’s
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Another piece of the jigsaw coming along nicely :sign0098:
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Roof vent next as the polycarbonate side windows will be fixed but I don’t want little hatches.
That will be the last farty piece before I tackle the nose cone, grille, bumper and splitter
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Yeah so gloss over the fact it has some dodgy colouring in with a black marker.....
Im getting a feel for the shape and size of the holes.
It wont poke out the top of the car like a periscope, the nose cone will sit over the top of the vent and all be blended in nicely.
Im not a great fan of this particular part, but given the shape of the front end, the lack of space and many components wanting to share the same space, my options are limited.
It will be fit it, run it, test it.....see how we get on. :sign0085:
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So a father and his son are sat at the breakfast table; the young boy looks up at his dad and says.....
"Dad, Im not really into rotarys like you, does that mean im adopted?"
His father replies with......
" No not yet, we're still trying to find someone who will accept you! "
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So a father and his son are sat at the breakfast table; the young boy looks up at his dad and says.....
"Dad, Im not really into rotarys like you, does that mean im adopted?"
His father replies with......
" No not yet, we're still trying to find someone who will accept you! "
:)) :)) :))
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New splitter design lol
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Bumper especially designed for A hole pedestrians.... :great:
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Your workmanship is slipping, it's not even painted :)) :))
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Your workmanship is slipping, it's not even painted :)) :))
I'm going au natural
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Ah, I see, silly me :-[
So which product are you going to treat it with ;)
https://www.aunaturalskinfood.com/shop/
;D
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"On The Go Brush On Foundation With SPF" would help with UV protection?
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https://www.cuprinol.co.uk/products/index.jsp?gclid=EAIaIQobChMItJKL0tPE5wIVWeDtCh3CnQIfEAAYASAAEgLY5PD_BwE
Was thinking this lol
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I'm another step closer to a Morgan car with that wood
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Im in a quandry........
Not given too much thought to the front end and not sure on headlight position , shape, style
Like the 787 but i dont think its in keeping with the rest of the car and i'm not doing twin headlights
Im thinking the toyota style ( the ones behind the polycarb not the pop up ones)
I know people are gonna be biased towards the 787......
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Or the headlights on this to remove thebias lol
http://www.speedhunters.com/2019/08/long-lost-le-mans-mazda-rotary-relic-reappears/
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Jamie, before you get too far, whilst your car may be exempt due to age, it may be an idea to look up construction and use to have a look at the regs on headlamp hights from the ground. I would hate to see you design somthing and then find you cant get an Mot :(
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Been there done that chatted with my local mot inspector, there’s no height requirements for mot. But there is for sva/ Iva but we’re not going down that road lol
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Jamie, before you get too far, whilst your car may be exempt due to age, it may be an idea to look up construction and use to have a look at the regs on headlamp hights from the ground. I would hate to see you design somthing and then find you cant get an Mot :(
I appreciate your concern clive 
This could be a sign that headlight heights are not too critical on the uk roads lol
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Change of plan
Rather working from the top down
We’re going from the ground up
The floor and ground clearance is the perfect datum
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Looks good for clearing snow from the drive!
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Bout all it’s good for at mo lol
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I’m sick of filler !!!
Can anyone think of a decent medium to use that works as well but doesn’t cost the earth ?
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Tried using drywall adhesive but ironically it’s not very adhesive
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I’m sick of filler !!!
Can anyone think of a decent medium to use that works as well but doesn’t cost the earth ?
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Weetabix?
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Lol you stupid boy pike !
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The snow plough with some paint on.
In all seriousness, this isn’t actually any part of the car but shape of the air under the splitter.
Lay some glass on top of this and this will be the smooth underside of the splitter ready to start the pattern.
I still hate filler !
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Whats that little clarke bench lathe like?
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Had it for about 14 years, still going.
It’s not as accurate as a Colchester, travelling up n down the bed the a little backlash in the threads but it’s the old acme type. Nothing like modern cnc machine.
Jaws open to 50mm ish diameter, can fit bars hanging out the back of the chuck 25mm diameter max.
For the hobbyist on a budget it’s tip top. You get used to it’s little quirks. I can make repeatable parts within 0.01mm of each other. I don’t need tighter tolerances than that for what I use it for.
If you’ve been used to top quality machinery you may be disappointed.
Depends what you wanna use it for.... small bushes n stuff it’s great
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Not at the right ride height it’s only bolted on the back end but it’s a start

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It’s definitely authentic lol
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https://www.raceretro.com/
Start of the season...... today’s antics!
On the hunt for Doritos
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Still staggered by your patience ;)
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I don’t really have a lot of choice lol
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blocked down and waxed waiting for gel coat
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Hi Jamie, really interested to know material and costs...
I.e something like a naca duct...or similar on your car....and a maybe explain the terminology....too me bog is something you get stuck on the moors or where i spend alot of time...
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Morning
Difficult one to answer without knowing sizes.
However if you want one buying one from merlin or demon tweeks works out cheaper.
Cheapest one on there is 30 quid but it may not suit your application
There is usually a minimum order quantity on the chopped strand matting so it’s works out expensive for one, but if you got the stuff it’s peanuts in the grand scheme.
I’ll post a file on in a bit coz I’m on the bog too, but we can come onto that
I base my sizes on the height of the duct because you may have space contraints, I.e. putting one in a flat Ali floor near the sump but you only have 25 mm clearance.
You punch in 25mm in the text box and it works out the rest for the optimum shape width and length etc
Historically I’ve bought off cuts of kitchen worktop at 30mm thick, for less than a tenner and I can get about 4 or 5 different versions of if that piece.
Cut it, shape it, prime, wax, gel coat, grp even with the wood I reckon I could make one for less than £ 20 in materials. Not much of a saving over demon tweeks, but once you have the mould you can make hundreds....
But the biggest benefit it’s a size and shape that works for your car not a “make do†universal one from a shop.
As for bog, I’m with you, ............
I’ve read a few books and done some research and have never come across “bog†as a term for this kinda stuff. It may be just the terminology just called summat diff.
I’ll post this file shortly..... I don’t mind making you a duct, I’ll post you the mould too so you can get some materials and make your own ducts in the future
Just remember the initial outlay is the expense and the liquid products can have a shelf life....
I’m getting through tons of product making different one off parts
Leave it with ya.......
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I dont need a duct it was just an example of sort size and materials used...cheers.
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Oh ok, a simple duct if you drilled down the nitty gritty,
I could make a naca duct for around 15 -20 quid
Worktop
Bit of ply
Crystic primecoat
Floor wax (I never use the proper stuff)
Gel coat
Polyester resin
Chop strand
Tools( brushes rollers mixing buckets stirrers)
Acetone for cleaning
As for the rad duct I’m making now, much more expensive.
A pack of 50mm thick polystyrene from b&q 25quid
A tin and a half of filler at 30 quid a tin
Some lengths of timber
All of the above materials
I reckon this duct will cost me around 100 quid in materials.
Sounds expensive but it’s completely one off, if you paid some one to make it it would be considerably more expensive.
Probably 2 weeks work sanding and shaping but that parts my hobby
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Cool. Yeah if you enjoy doing it free...same as me tinkering in garage.
Cool thanks.
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If I kept a tab on how much Ive spent on this project to get where I am I may have stopped by now lolllll
I do it coz I enjoy building one off stuff.
Yup theres times where ive thought christ i could have bought a car and ragged it round a track.
Its just me lol
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Yep same as Westy...i started adding up got half way and stopped. Had fun. So many hrs in garage all having fun.
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With all the wedding plans she’s got going on.......
I’d rather go in the shed and smother my whole naked body in grp resin and try and pull it out my hair than sit in the house and watch
Say yes to the fat dress USA or curvy brides for hopeless women who can’t make a decision without looking stupid on tv.
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Leave the planning to the woman..nod agree and say i do!
Happy Wife Happy Life.
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You missed a bit...... unload the dishwasher lol
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Lol yeah...since ive been off ive been pretty much doing everything...only fair.
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Aye..... as I say to the minions on the factory shop floor
“Teamwork! Makes the dream work!â€
Another one I use when I give someone a task I know they won’t like.
“ now is your time to shine “
Both go down like a lead balloon ha haha
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I think bog is a term used more back home in NZ and over in Aussie aye ;)
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Duct demoulded, sorry did take any component pics but got some of them in place fitted to the rad.
I cut the original grille opening off the lotus and bonded that in place (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200303/ca7c666623319dadb738658997781837.jpg)
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Mmmmm koyorad
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Last one
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Scaled down cooling towers for the power station on my model village
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Scaled down cooling towers for the power station on my model village
Stop messing around with polluting power stations for your model village. You've got a polluting Rotus to finish building ;) ;D
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Scaled down cooling towers for the power station on my model village
Stop messing around with polluting power stations for your model village. You've got a polluting Rotus to finish building ;) ;D
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Chimneys in place Malcolm
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That's a nice pair ;)
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So.....
They have cancelled all football matches, so opposed to watching footy on the box I decided to talk to my wife for a change ......
...... apparently she’s been made redundant from Woolworths
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:)) :)) :))
No Colchester United match today :-[
Dau in Law, a medical doctor, has just gone into self isolation after showing all the classic symptoms of the c-virus :( :(
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They have cancelled all football matches, so opposed to watching footy on the box I decided to talk to my wife for a change ......
...... apparently she’s been made redundant from Woolworths
:)) :)) :)) Perfect!
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:)) :)) :))
No Colchester United match today :-[
Dau in Law, a medical doctor, has just gone into self isolation after showing all the classic symptoms of the c-virus :( :(
Well fingers crossed
But she’s young fit n healthy. It’s will build up her immune system
People don’t eat enough dirt these days
When I was a kid we swam in the river, the canals, basins, climbed trees, covered in mud and dog poo, never washed our hands......
The younger generation are obsessed with living in front of the computer and never exposing themselves to anything
The corona virus is actually man flu.... the world has only just realised how bad we had it
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So good and bad Malcolm, by all accounts she should be immune after this bout.
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I went in a roadside service station today..had to wait about 2 mins for someone to come in so i didnt have to touch the door handle....ocd...i did this b4 manflu struck world wide!!!
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I went in a roadside service station today..had to wait about 2 mins for someone to come in so i didnt have to touch the door handle....ocd...i did this b4 manflu struck world wide!!!
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Wear long sleeves and pull it over your hand.
I'm exactly the same
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I usually reach up and pull on door closure arm to inward open door but this one didnt have 1.
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Looking damn nice, good job mate

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Many moons ago I was doing a job in London, its about 8.30 am I'm walking into McDonald's
I pulled on the door handle to go in but too late to realise someone else's blood all over the handle.
Said to my boss, I'm going to the loo to wash my hands.....open THAT door to be presented with a homeless man washing his meat n 2 veg in the automatic tap and hand dryer hole in the wall.
He didn't bat an eyelid, so I went round the corner did my thing, walked back to see him with his head inside the hole drying his hair!
Well, I thought, that's different....... But at least he's washing
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Youve come along way since then Jamie....



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Ya effin reckon ????
I don’t do that now coz I got no bloody hair to wash !!!! Lol
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I’ll need more litter than that lol
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Got my racing outfit so my arms are covered
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Haha nutter
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What the hell...
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Found out I’m a size 22
I’m a big lass
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This girl wasn’t very chatty
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You could practice your hairdressing on her

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Girl behind is er rather pert!! Have your eye out on that

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Lol I know
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Gave her the Jamie cut
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Lol your gonna asked to leave in a mo...
Is there cctv? Manneqiun fondling is that an offence?
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Left a bit down a bit
He fondled me man!
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Emma hates shopping with me
Lolllll
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I wonder why...

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I wonder why...

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Friday walked round Chester zoo all day
Saturday walked round Chester town shopping
Sunday walked round Cheshire Oaks Designer Outlet
For someone who is disabled she likes her walking.
If I had another day of non car related crap I may have hung myself lol
I hate shopping! !
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Ah, but what about shopping for car related bits ;)
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Thats different lol
I still wanna take a trip to Clive’s place if I’m down that way
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Finally starting to take shape
I’m gonna get the one side done first then replicate the other.
This is gonna be one big ass body panel.
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Finished
Going for the “just laid concrete†look
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Slowly taking shape
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Admire your dedication
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Admire your dedication
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Well I can’t quit now lol
I didn’t realise I’d be doing so much bodywork at the start of the project
Build a bespoke chassis I said, bolt on all the rx8 running gear I said, just plonk the body back on the top I said .......easy
Wrong ! Lol
Tbh, it started as a hill climb car, couldn’t get a b license, then it was gonna be a road car, now it’s gonna end up a road legal track day toy.
I wanted it fin by this Christmas, but I gotta finish the front bumper, I’m halfway through the pattern for the roof vent, then I decided last week I want side skirts. And that’s just the bodywork ......
Better make it a five year project instead of three haha.
Believe me I wish I was driving it, esp after hooning about in the 8 and I’m aiming for around 500 kg less weight than the 8.
Keeps me in the shed and off the street catching viruses lol
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New headlights arrived
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Q?
What gives the stock RX8 speedo the info for the speed to be displayed?
Do i need to keep the wheel sensors or does it come from the gearbox?
Thanks
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via abs to pcm by canbus, pcm to dash via can bus. if my memory right
youll have revs etc but no odometer Peaky Blinder! ???
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hmmmm, not running abs..... this sounds complicated now ......
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I think the old wheel sensors got trashed getting them out of rusty holes.
Looks like im purchasing more if I want the stock speedo to work.
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Junk it and run a nice race digi dash...gps speed. oil water temps and pressure properly monitored cheaper than after market gauges once you buy them all.....
or im sure theres some clever electronic whizz that cold get odo display to work with a raspberry PI or summit.
Clive runs the 8 dash im sure the odo just stays or zero.
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or just get a heads up display gps speed odometer...displays speed on inside of windscreen.
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or just get a heads up display gps speed odometer...displays speed on inside of windscreen.
Top Gun style or CX-3 which doesn't sound quite the same :(. Mind you I can never see it anyway as Lisa has it set too low for me ;)
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I really wanted to maintain the original speedo, but with the clocks in the centre of the dash I guess it would actually be dangerous to look across and take my eyes off the road hahahaha
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GPS Speedo would fit in the cluster if you wanted it
My mate just used one in his V8 MK 1 MX5
Sits in there lovely and works a treat
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Sorry Wayne I'm having a blond moment.....
Have ya got any pics I can't visualise it
I'm being a dubba
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Sorry Wayne I'm having a blond moment.....
Have ya got any pics I can't visualise it
I'm being a dubba
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Have a read into rx8 LS conversions. People work wonders using a box of tricks and retaining the rx8 clocks
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Excellent work with the rear Diffuser Wayne :bravo_2:
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Im even more confused lol
Sorry Wayne, I meant have you got any pics of this GPS speedo in the stock Rx8 cluster...... unless im missing something.
And thanks for the links Paul, ill ask my mucka to see if he understands that, he designed and built circuit boards, thats way over my head.
Im going for a nervous breakdown I cant even find an emoji for me sitting in the corner dribbling.
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If your tingling all over feeling the effects of adrenalin....your going too fast!
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That dun get the car to pass an mot tho lol
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If your tingling all over feeling the effects of adrenalin....your going too fast!
Wow, I never get that happen, obviously I'm not going fast enough :)) :)) :)) :))
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Im even more confused lol
Sorry Wayne, I meant have you got any pics of this GPS speedo in the stock Rx8 cluster...... unless im missing something.
And thanks for the links Paul, ill ask my mucka to see if he understands that, he designed and built circuit boards, thats way over my head.
Im going for a nervous breakdown I cant even find an emoji for me sitting in the corner dribbling.
Nope - Jamie the Speedo shown is a gps one in an MX5 as an example .
They just had to lift the circuit Board over it as it was 20 mm deeper .
Sorry for the confusion
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Excellent work with the rear Diffuser Wayne :bravo_2:
Oops
That was t meant to be there - must have had a wobbly thumb
Sorry Jamie
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Ah I get you, so it is a gps one but analogue clock display?
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Ah I get you, so it is a gps one but analogue clock display?
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Yeah man
Probably don’t explain myself very well after a few buds lol
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Why would you drink water of an evening ? Lol
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Ive got our old IT manager on the case, he knows his stuff. Saves me crying over it lol
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Excellent work with the rear Diffuser Wayne :bravo_2:
It is a nice diffuser actually. I wouldnt have the patience to make all the cut outs for the lower arms and exhaust, that would do my bulb.
Have you noticed a difference with it fitted?
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Trying to get the near side symmetrical
Ya can’t beat a last level for stuff like this.
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Very high tech Jamie :icon_thumleft:
It somehow reminded me of the scene in Goldfinger, with James Bonds strapped to the table and a deadly looking laser moving toward his nuts :))
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Very high tech Jamie :icon_thumleft:
It somehow reminded me of the scene in Goldfinger, with James Bonds strapped to the table and a deadly looking laser moving toward his nuts :))
Skip to 1m30s for the best bit,
Lol now that clip remind me of this clip. Johnny Vegas talking about James Bond while he peed in the bath whilst doing an outtake on The Last Leg
Parental guidance required, it’s blue in places
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Very high tech Jamie :icon_thumleft:
It somehow reminded me of the scene in Goldfinger, with James Bonds strapped to the table and a deadly looking laser moving toward his nuts :))
Skip to 1m30s for the best bit,
High tech eh ????
Would you like to change your mind Malcolm?
Nowt high tech with my working practices lol
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Disappointing, not a single laser line in sight, and not even a Teflon coated saw either ;)
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Haha
I never buy expensive saws. False economy for me, I always catch a nail or screw or the floor and ruin them.
At around 6 or 7 quid a go they’re a throw away item these days
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Besides I’m cutting a curve, a laser won’t help me there, Unless you can recommend a refraction device lol
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I’m flat out on this bloody car
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Back on it today. Done my 8 hours in the shed.
Quality time with the dragon lol
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Need to mow that lawn....
should be good a cutting grass!
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Oooo nice can’t see very well in the sun. I’m assuming new turbo on the mx5 beast ??
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Stuff the grass I like the meadow look lol
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Yep a little Garrett gt2545r...
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NHS facebook Rave..is bangin!!

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Afternoon chaps.
Hope you’re all enjoying the Easter weekend.
Welcome to another episode of Jamie sands body filler. FML
I should have built another bloody motorbike!!!
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Afternoon Jamie.
Looking like somthing real good now.
Iroincally your hateing plod, but sitting here trapped indoors I would love to be playing with the stuff, or indeed anything to do with a car, never been so dormant in my life ::)
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Yes thats looking good nice lines...and pretty unique to.

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Still lots to do
Come on a long way from here on 12th feb
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Looks mean and bada*s


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Yep, some nice lines emerging there Jamie :icon_thumleft:
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Just realised the front end reminds of a curvier ferrari 355...
Very nice!
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Ah I’ve been busted !
You’re not the first to say
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I hate Ferrari’s too.
It wasn’t intended. Just how the lines ended up front the front grille and the arches
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F355...my posters as teenager along with Wendy James from Transvision Vamp! F355 still looks beautiful to this day in my eyes...Wendy not so..

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Sanded all the rads in, just putting fillets in the internal corners.
Gotta finish off the oil cooler duct openings then decide where I’m gonna mount the headlights.
I got a couple of options, when the time is right I’ll post a couple of options on here n get a vote.
At the mo I’m leaning towards that pink rx7 racecar that was posted the other day
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F355...my posters as teenager along with Wendy James from Transvision Vamp! F355 still looks beautiful to this day in my eyes...Wendy not so..
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Yeah she was a hottie, and that bird from the cranberries, sadly passed away
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Like that with polycarbonate covers, headlight above and indicator below
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Or summat like that
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Sanded all the rads in, just putting fillets in the internal corners.
Gotta finish off the oil cooler duct openings then decide where I’m gonna mount the headlights.
I got a couple of options, when the time is right I’ll post a couple of options on here n get a vote.
At the mo I’m leaning towards that pink rx7 racecar that was posted the other day
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Fair play to you
Steering effort ,I can see the shape now .
Keep at it 
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Cheers Wayne :13:
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Cheers Wayne :13:
Sterling effort lol
Looks like the. Bud and fat thumbs kicked in
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Made a little jig to hold the duct openings at the right height and pointing the right direction while the filler bonds
Just hope the stay put when I grind the tacks off or there could be some blue language lol
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That’s a bit neater
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I think a small mammal could get in there
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That will do for one day. Need to do battle in Tesco 
Headlights next ...... to be continued
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Epic

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I wouldn’t go that far bud but you can massage my EGO all day long lol
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Lol...very good then.
If i had made it it would be lopsided and look like a melted candle...
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Ah you need to give yourself more credit bud.
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Right....... id love a bit of input from you helpful chaps.
Ive been playing around with different lens options, based on the dimensions of my lights etc.
So the tape is just the shape of the polycarbonate covers that go over the top.
I have limitations as to where these are going dimensionally
1a and 1b are just the headlight on its own, the indicator can be screwed to the outside of the bodywork lower down
2a and 2b are the same as 1a and 1b with just the lens wrapping around the side a little for a more modern look.
3a and 3b is with the indicator mounted behind the lens, inboard of the headlight.
4a and 4b is with the indicator mounted underneath the headlight but still behind the lens. Similar to the pink RX7.
Thoughts? diff options?
As im not going down the SVA route ( with any luck) Mr MOT inspector is quite relaxed over headlight heights, and theyre not exactly scraping the floor like the 787b lolll
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The only one that doesn't seem "right" is the first one. All the others look fine to me :icon_thumleft:
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Well, thats a thought one
they all seem quite good to me...
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Not that my opinion counts for much but personal preference would be for the last as it appears on the pink car. i'm still just in awe at the standard of your work and the skill sets involved.
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I like 1a.
Gonna be a twin set each side?
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No 1 headlight and 1 indicator
Headlights were £210 a pair oooossshhhh
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Not that my opinion counts for much but personal preference would be for the last as it appears on the pink car. i'm still just in awe at the standard of your work and the skill sets involved.
It’s just like baking a cake really lol, your opinion does count. That’s why I asked haha
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Vauxhall chevette lights 

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Lol love it
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Lol .....
well i thought if I take a grp mould of the bodywork as it is that can be the female side.
I’ll lay up more grp of that female mould on the inside that can be the male.
I was gonna have a go at drape moulding by putting some 3 or 4mm polycarbonate in the powder coating oven at work laying it over the male mould take it out once it starts going soft then put the female over the top and squeeze it down.
Hoping it will act like pressing steel in a tool.
I was gonna make all the car glass in the same way so this could be a dummy run .
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What a difference a coat of primer makes !
I think the satin black/ stealth race car look has had its day tho
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Laid up some glass in readiness for the lenses before I start carving holes in the pattern
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Lol nooooo
I made the grp panels way oversized coz I dunno what shape it will end up being cut I start cutting holes, just wanna capture all the contours n rads before the saw comes out
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Till I start ****
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Have you been drinking? Lol
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Just starting
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Got my moulding of the profile before I start choppin
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About here????
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No turning back now
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How close to that oil cooler ????
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Admire your work pal
Very accurate
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Serious?
Complete fluke ! Lol
I had a rough guess, no skill involved haha
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Serious?
Complete fluke ! Lol
I had a rough guess, no skill involved haha
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Nope lol
Damn lucky be the looks 

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Sit in there somewhere
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Cool! Make sure you have provision to get to the adjusters.
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Lol
Yup the plastic mounts have holes in to adjust
According to the destructions you only adjust the one bottom one for height
So it’s pop the lens off and adjust
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little torx bit required
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I was thinking Sid from ice age lolll
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Headlight and indicator locations.
Obviously the indicator inboard and further forward
That will do for one day
I can’t stop thinking it looks Datsun-ish
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Serious?
Complete fluke ! Lol
I had a rough guess, no skill involved haha
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Nope lol
Damn lucky be the looks 

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Do admire the work your putting in tho
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120y or 240z lol...
Cherry turbo now that was blast...i learnt to drive in a Datsun Cherry!
In fact had my first crash whilst learning...turning around in a cul de sac...bloke reversed straight out of his garage straight into the side of me....stalled and stationary.
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Oh the 120y were porn
Bloke in town had a huge Mohawk and drove round in a bright pink one back in the day
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Serious?
Complete fluke ! Lol
I had a rough guess, no skill involved haha
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Nope lol
Damn lucky be the looks 

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Do admire the work your putting in tho
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Aww you’re a sweetie
Thanks Wayne 
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Ok folks I’m undecided
So I need a show of hands
I’ve painted on an area in blue for the lens shape
So option A is a bit more traditional maybe gt40/787 square across the body
Or option B is a more modern angry eyes style.
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Option B
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Ill have a look when ive finished my beer and go to fridge...as too sunny to look at piccys

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Option b!
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Ok 1 for b
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B for me despite my earlier input.
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Cool 2 for B
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Yep, I think B works best too.
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option A / traditional
B is for BMW style lights
So I go A ;)
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Ooo Clive !
Controversial
3-1
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Theres always 1
im sure wich ever you choose will be great...im intrigued how your your gonna make it!
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Watch this space and think of snooker tables
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Watch this space and think of snooker tables
Trying to work out what are you are saying to Jon, its either balls or get your hands out of my pockets :)) :)) :)) (only joking)
Seriously, what ever you choose as with all the other work, I'm sure the covers will look great. :great:
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Watch this space and think of snooker tables
Trying to work out what are you are saying to Jon, its either balls or get your hands out of my pockets :)) :)) :)) (only joking)
Seriously, what ever you choose as with all the other work, I'm sure the covers will look great. :great:
Lol neither.
I’m gonna make a male and female former out of grp. Hang some polycarbonate on the conveyer system that goes through the powder coating oven, then when is comes out all floppy, shape it between the formers.
I’ve read if you line the formers with baize (snooker table felt) the polycarbonate will slide nicely and not catch anywhere when you squeeze the formers together.
If it all goes tits up I’ve found a place in Colchester that could help
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Ive bent it with a heat gun at work to make machine guards...
Temperature critical..too much bubbles and melts.
Hot gun along a cut edge turns white edge back to see through.
Fingers crossed! Dont forget the hot mitts!
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Yeah you can kinda get away with it on 2D forms.
But plonker here wanted a 3D shape, as if I don’t have enough to do lol.
I could have kept it simple, but when it was all finished I would have wished I push myself a bit more
I’m gonna cut some samples and chuck them through the oven see if they bubble up
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Yes prob some test pieces at diff temperatures...prob also with the felt to see if it sticks to it...
Dont want furry lenses.
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Yes prob some test pieces at diff temperatures...prob also with the felt to see if it sticks to it...
Dont want furry lenses.
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Lol I’ve had worse things in life
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Plan b if dont work...harvest some from production headlights. Ive put standard bugeye impreza headlights in oven at 150 for 10 mins to melt the bond and simply prised off the covers.
Then painted inards black sti style back in oven to resoften bond and voila back together and on ebay for 150 for the pair. ( bought for a tenner ea).
There will be loads of headlight lenses to chose from...hopefully you nail it.
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LOL Arthur Daley
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So been playing today with 3mm acrylic
It’s goes nice n soft, the blank size I want I think I will do it at home, cleaner environment. And I can adjust the temp.
I’ll get in trouble if I fiddle with the works oven and the powder coat may not cure properly lol
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Well I’ve learned something today.......
Polycarbonate front screens are not road legal in the uk
I’m not sure why as you can have polycarbonate wind deflectors on things like westfields, and bubbles on motorbikes....
Also I think the MSA and FIA may not allow it either, but side and rear windows are fine in polycarbonate.
So bought 2 pieces of poly today.
A 1000 x 500 x 3 piece at 19 quid summat
And the same size but margard spec which is scratch resistant at a mind blowing 53 quid
I’ll practice on the cheap stuff first lol
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It's a safety thing I assume - polycarbonate scratches and is difficult to remove oil and water etc from. You don't (have to) look through aero screens or bike fairings etc but you have no choice with a windscreen. I don't think they've ever been legal for racing cars either. I remember being dispatched to the Pilkington works to collect the laminated screens for a sports car due to run at Le Mans. The ovens used to form coach windscreens were the only ones big enough to make them in those days and probably still are. They would give you three goes to get the fit perfect because the screens varied slightly depending how long they are fired and cooled for. [The first one cracked but still had to be paid for!] :)
Presumably the +2 screen came out of something else (like much of the rest of it?) so you should be able to find out what and order a replacement if it needs one, even if asking for one for a Lotus results in pained expressions and the suggestion it will cost a fortune. (The JDC began compiling a comparative parts numbers index years ago because Jaguar looted all sorts of bins for their bits and pieces but using the Jaguar number meant it came with a higher price tag. (E type headlights are from a Mini, the windscreen washers a Morris Minor, the arm rests out of a BMC lorry etc etc etc) For the record, I'd have said A like Clive but it's sometimes NOT the thought that counts ;D Avid follower of progress so far - your productivity ultimately shaming to my armchair dreamer!
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Nice post jinx.

Yeah I still have the original, was just trying to save some weight.
I’ve seen some screens flex so I wondered if it was raining and you were travelling at high speed that the wipers would only touch in certain places lol
The screen is the same for consul Capri and gulp reliant scimitar lol
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Oh, in that case order one for the Consul :))
The Reliant option might attract exactly the same sort of winsome expression as asking for the Lotus item.
While we're on the subject...Consul Capri.... :love4: I was looking at them on an ad listings site. If they had been made in Italy in small numbers they'd be even more expensive than they regrettably are now. There was one for sale, close to me, re-upholstered in cream hide but otherwise standard. It was practically crying out for more oomph to be placed under the bonnet. Armchair dreaming again ;D
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While we're on the subject...Consul Capri.... :love4:
Reminds me I had three Consul Classics, one standard 1500 coverted to Cortina GT engined and the second with a Corsair 2000 engine and the final one, a Jaguar beater (at the time), with a Ford V6 mated to the 2000 gearbox. all lowered and with wider wheels (8J's were big then) but still on the standard brakes (silly me :dontknow:).
All converted myself, but still nowhere near to the standards that this project has reached.
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I had a 2000e Corsair.
V4 with a 3 speed auto.
It was so smooth running.
Blue mink metallic with a black vinyl roof.
Loved it. 36k on the clock
Had drum brakes all round and used to get 4 wheel lock ups as the brakes out performed the skinny crossply tyres lol
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The V6 would have been a proper romper stomper in its day and would have sorted out most other road cars out there, as I'm sure you will remember Ray :great:
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Sure do :13:
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Unfortunately for some of us they kept putting them in things with the same brakes they fitted to the 1300 version :D
Vis: Early 3L Capri that would not slow down when asked until finally locking all four wheels and leaving me sliding across a junction onto a petrol forecourt - the light having happily changed to green as I slid towards it. It was, and remains, my fervent belief that I looked cool, calm and collected as I got out and sauntered across to the shop. I imagine eye witnesses might have a different take. ??? I drove back to the works extremely slowly.
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So the other day I was tinkering at work with acrylic in the oven.
The first piece got hot, melted off the hook and landed on the over floor so here is mk1 headlight lenses
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More garage wall art lol
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Your artwork rendition of the Shard building ;) ;D
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Next time at the beech, part bury it....some fool will dig it up...
Megladome tooth?
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Next time at the beech, part bury it....some fool will dig it up...
Megladome tooth?
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Lol yeah summat like that
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It definitely doesn’t fit
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As this rack is for the Rotus ill do a little mini thread in here.
Clives write up on page 100 of his RX8 race car thread is very accurate. For the complete novice ( ME !) I feel a picture tells a thousand words, so will go into a bit more detail in case anyone wants simliar.
1, One faulty steering rack, which will be cannibalised.
2, Remove the track rod ends, the locking nuts, cut the bands holding on the boots/gaiters. There is a locking washer holding the nuts for the tack rods in place. Tap the bent over ears of the washer away from the locking nut. Undo the nut with a suitable spanner, or like me a pair of mole grips. Put track rods to one side............. keep all parts nearside and offside separate, just in case.
3,Undo the 4 x M8 bolts that hold the outer motor case and pull, prise, swear, tap it away from the rack, it will be tight, theres 2 o-rings, 1 each end, and magnets inside which could hold it in place. Remove the brushes and all plastic crap in the away, be brutal you dont need it. Undo the 2 screws connecting the wiring connector (black) on the outer part of the case and remove.
4, You need to be brutal, but careful. Run an angle grinder with cutting disc through the windings, its messy, theres a resin encasing it all, until you reach the inner steel sleeve of the windings. This is where you need to be careful as you need to cut it, but not too far or youll damage the steel sleeve underneath. Knowing what i know now, run a line down the windings and another 180 degrees on the other side, the steel sleeve will come away from the steel sleeve of the rack in 2 halves. Youll need chisels, hammers, coffee, colourful language, oh and dont forget eye protection please.
5, There are 6 large magnets inside the outer motor case, held in place by a thin wall steel housing and plastic holder. I was brutal here and just drove a wood chisel down inside the outer casing, Drive it down in about 3 places, break the magnets up and withdraw the hole magnet housing, be careful not to puncture the out motor case. Make sure you get rid of all small fragments of magnets. Should look like pic 5.
6, If you spin the sleeve that the windings used to sit on you notice the rack moves as well as the quill shaft (what the steering column connects to). Its this action that we want to negate. On the near side of the rack youll see a round plate with 4 holes ( bearing retainer), remove the circlip, i used a centre punch to tap the round retainer, in an anti clockwise direction. Wind out fully and put to one side.
Keep spinning the case that the windings used to sit on from lock to lock and the bearing housing will slide out, theres ball bearings everywhere. I pity the person who has to install these. Throw the lot away.
7, once done youll see the worm thread, if you spin the case that the windings sat on, it should just spin and the rack doesnt travel from lock to lock.
8, Clive used brass for this next stage, but I didnt have any that diameter, so I used a piece of nylon to make a new sleeve. You need a piece 43mm O.D, 27mm I.D. and 40mm long. Put a 45 degree chamfer on each end.
9, Push your new sleeve where the bearing used to be, wind the bearing retainer back in, (use the centre punch and a hammer to tighten it) re fit the circlip.
10, Remove the outer dust cover from the quill shaft. Undo the 3 x M6 bolts which hold down the torque sensor, prize it up and off the shaft.
The beige plastic piece seems like a shaft encoder of sorts, but i didnt like the colour so i thwacked it off with a chisel and hammer. Once removed youll see the quill shaft in 2 pieces with some dowells. I wanted to be nosey and look inside, but couldnt get it apart, oh well next stage.
4 more steps on the next post
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11, TIG it, MIG it, dun matter, join it together, dont get it too hot.
12, Started cleaning it all up, wire wheels, degreaser, painted the outer motor shell in zinc primer then black. Youll need to put some silicone sealant in the hole where the black wire connector come from just to prevent water ingress. Bolt the outer casing back onto the rack, grease up the surfaces that have the o-rings, needs a tap home.
13, Refit the torque sensor housing and the outer dust cover.
14, Refit the track rods, tap the ears of the locking washer back into position. Refit the boots/gaiters, holding in place with cable ties/bands and circlips.
Et voila, took me a full day with painting.
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Nice one Jamie
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Ya giving it a go ? Lol
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Ya giving it a go ? Lol
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Nah waiting for admin to send me your address so I can send mine to you lol
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Haha haha.
It’s easy, for a man of your calibre !!
Just don’t get “dynamic†in the process lol
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Haha haha.
It’s easy, for a man of your calibre !!
Just don’t get “dynamic†in the process lol
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Ha ha
T*** lol 


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Tool?
Tank
Tins
Tell
Toby
Wait I got this
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Tool?
Tank
Tins
Tell
Toby
Wait I got this
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I the words of Roald Dahl
Twit 
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Been called a damn sight worse lol
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So I’ve ran out of filler for almost a week now. Which gives me chance to work on the jobs I need to do but keep putting off coz I’d rather get the bodywork f***** finished.
Hence, fixing the steering on the 8 (mr tracking man said disconnect the column again and turn the wheel to centralise or you’ll have more lock on one side that the other, so that might be today )
And fiddling around with manual racks yesterday
So today’s job is making decent jacking points. The steel hole circled is a tube welded to a steel crossmember in the grp sills.
The body is sandwiched between the crossmember and the roll cage, so this seems a strong enough area.
Problem one, I intend on fitting side skirts which will cover up the 4 holes, 2 on each crossmember.
The question is, do I make little adaptors that screw into each one, and hang lower than the sill or modify a lightweight scissor hack that stays in the car hmmmm
Now I wish I had more ground clearance. Or some pneumatic air rams like on race cars.
Pffft
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The things ya do when you’re bored lol
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Bloody tv broke today too so I can’t do that
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So you’ve got a steel tube hole for jacking like the rally cars have ?
Could you not fit cills then drill a hole and put a nice shroud around them ?
I’ll have to get a photo of the scissor jack you need
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This is what I use to jack mine on track days as it’s pretty low . It has a half inch socket welded on the end for impact driver - works a treat
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So add a bracket both sides and a tube from it which should slide into your jacking point
Here’s a CAD version 


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So you’ve got a steel tube hole for jacking like the rally cars have ?
Could you not fit cills then drill a hole and put a nice shroud around them ?
I’ll have to get a photo of the scissor jack you need
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Ah the rally car tubes sit horizontally I remember that from my old mk1 escort days then they have like an a-frame axle stand.
Good set up that
The tubes on mine are vertical, I’ve made an adapter now that sits up inside and clips on my scissor jack, seems to work ok. Or good enough to get me out a pickle at the side of the road.
I don’t suppose anyone has the stock rx8 wheel brace surplus to requirements???
I’ve lined the Toyota auris space saver with grp, the expanding foam gonna make cut outs for the tools to go in
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I think the cardboard will bend Wayne lolll
I knew what you meant tho buddy
I like your idea of the socket, I’m stealing that one. The standard cranking handle is junk
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I think the cardboard will bend Wayne lolll
I knew what you meant tho buddy
I like your idea of the socket, I’m stealing that one. The standard cranking handle is junk
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No worries
Turn the jack on it’s side 
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I think the cardboard will bend Wayne lolll
I knew what you meant tho buddy
I like your idea of the socket, I’m stealing that one. The standard cranking handle is junk
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No worries
Turn the jack on it’s side 
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Hahaha
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Making sanding tools
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One down one to go
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That’s taking shape now
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Slowly yeah
And no your eyes don’t deceive you......
This is tool of the day
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Soooo much patiance ;)
Just a thought, have you considered lightly smoked plexiglass for the head lamps, could look quite trick.
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Soooo much patiance ;)
Just a thought, have you considered lightly smoked plexiglass for the head lamps, could look quite trick.
Nope , but just like when someone asked me if I was bi-lingual, my response was.....
I’ll try anything once
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Finally headlight pockets in primer.
I can start prepping for taking this pattern off and mould making
Clive, I think we’re on the same wavelength regarding the tint, but I was planning a different route.
The recessed area that you see above that the polycarbonate sits in was going to be painted satin black so it contrasts from the rest of the body colour
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A similar idea to this
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Awesome work Mate!

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Cheers bud
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First bit of the mould underway
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Some more good progress Jamie :)
You are getting there, bit by bit :13:
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Well I got my mot Tuesday lolllll
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Crikey oh Riley
It’s off
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Must be 40 -50 kg of wood, filler and other crap.
Good job the real thing will be light
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What’s next then Jamie
Is that your template ?
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Yeah, that’s the pattern.
Finish sanding all the primer smooth, wax, gel coat then start laying more fibreglass round the outside.
Take all the mould panels, unbolt them. Take the pattern that I’ve spent 3 months on and throw it in the skip lol.
Bolt the mould back together. Wax, gel coat, lay up glass in the inside.
Demould and hopefully I have a majestic looking body panel that weighs bugger all
It kills me to throw the patterns away. So much work goes into them. But I don’t have the room and they’re too fragile.
I keep all the moulds in case I prang the car I can make new panels
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Gormless lookin smile on it
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I keep all the moulds in case I prang the car I can make new panels
That's what I like to see, planning ahead, or should that be panelling ahead.....? ;D
You thinking of mass production with all these moulds? ;) ;D
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I keep all the moulds in case I prang the car I can make new panels
That's what I like to see, planning ahead, or should that be panelling ahead.....? ;D
You thinking of mass production with all these moulds? ;) ;D
Well if someone else is stupid enough like me to carve up a perfectly good car, then yeah I could as a sideline.
I dun think I’ll be paying the mortgage anytime soon with the proceeds lol
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Well I’ve not seen that angle for a while
Time to start prepping
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More laser cut bits arriving
Roberts Engineering logo lol
Just happens to be the same as Rotary Engine..... strange that.
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Stickers for the badges
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Oh yeah, quality, love it Jamie :great:
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Awesome.
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Absolute tart
Nice design 

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Stickers for the badges
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Brilliant, really like them 
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Win some lose some
Tried an experiment today which didn’t pay off. I’m on basic Tapatalk so multiple posts for pics
Rotor shaped centre caps
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Logo
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One mould
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Solid block of resin n matting
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Demoulded
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Machine it down
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Groove for an o ring
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It misses the wheel nuts
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It don’t look bad at all !!!
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But when you bolt the wheel to the car, the hub pokes through the centre of the wheel where the centre cap sits lol
Oh well, only wasted about £5 of materials and a play in the shed.
Plan b
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Which is ?
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???? I’m confuzzled
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???? I’m confuzzled
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Sleep on a bottle of red
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Which is ?
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Ahh gotcha now I’m sober,
Small aluminium caps which sit over the central hole, not in it.
Something less flamboyant, maybe just a rotor shape within the cap. Or a rotus sticker.
The lotus originally had knock on spinners to bolt the wheels on.
Was going for a look that mimics that but had a feel of those rotor shaped alloys ya see on the old mazdas.
Win some lose some lol
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Which is ?
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Ahh gotcha now I’m sober,
Small aluminium caps which sit over the central hole, not in it.
Something less flamboyant, maybe just a rotor shape within the cap. Or a rotus sticker.
The lotus originally had knock on spinners to bolt the wheels on.
Was going for a look that mimics that but had a feel of those rotor shaped alloys ya see on the old mazdas.
Win some lose some lol
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I got you
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It don’t look bad at all !!!
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Thats brilliant 
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It don’t look bad at all !!!
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Thats brilliant 
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On paper yes,
Shame they don’t work lol
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So last night had a catastrophic incident thankfully avoided.
Been working on this part now since feb. A LOT of hours have gone into it.
There’s around 40-50kgs there, a mixture of wood, polystyrene but mainly filler. Then all the grp around the outside.
Saturday I decided to brace the grp with steel tubing so when I’m making product it triangulates the structure and keeps the right shape.........
...... that was my saving grace !!!
I’m sat in the garden drinking with Emma last night to hear a massive bang from the shed. The table which the pattern is sat on gave way and collapsed.
Thankfully the car wasn’t hit, and the pattern fell vertically straight down.
The only damage was a wooden brace snapped off within won’t hurt as I’m finished with that part, and part of the mould has pre released. A screw will rectify that and repair the mould after.
If I hadn’t fitted the steel tube I’m certain it would have snapped in half
Very very lucky.
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Pleased all is well, bet that made you jump ???
The other thing will be with you today.
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Pleased all is well, bet that made you jump ???
The other thing will be with you today.
Made my bum twitch !
Cheers Clive
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Another close shave .........
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Glad toy hear you got away with it - lucky man ;) :13:
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Another close shave .........
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Like the one on my face yeah ?
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More chins than a Chinese phone book
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Right said Fred.

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Right said Fred. 
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Gotcha 
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See you next Tuesday
Lol
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Something was sticking, welp, break the pattern out the mould
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??? ??? does that look as bad as I think it does, or is the mould OK and all you need now?
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I finished mould making, it just won’t pop off nicely, something is sticking around the ducts. So I’m just removing the mould in reverse.
Don’t panic mr manwaring
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Still alive!
been quiet lately, work taking over my life. My boss n I have been running the 20 acre site where im based for the last 10-11 weeks while everyone else is working from home.
Monday they decided to split the workforce into 2 teams, So I've been running the site solo this week while the other team is on furlough.
The upside is im now furloughed and being paid to work on the Rotus until Monday 29th ! Happy days.
That said, been prepping the moulds today for minor defects, waxed and gelcoat.
Finally laying up glass on the end product tomorrow. Its been a long slog this part
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Can’t wait to see the end result
Pull your finger out 

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Can’t wait to see the end result
Pull your finger out 

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I’m trying man lol
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Happy birthday Mr Roberts

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Happy birthday Mr Roberts 
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Thanks butt 
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Well finally it’s all laid.
Foam in the necessary places
Unbolt it all tomorrow
Fingers crossed
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I look forward to seeing it tomorrow
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I look forward to seeing it tomorrow
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Me too
just hope it’s worth all the effort for the last 4 months
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Fingers crossed
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:happy1: waiting......... ;)
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It’s off
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Remove the flashing and excess foam
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Nice crisp details
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Lightweight baby
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Fair play to you
Looks real good that
Well worth the hard work
How many layers of fibreglass has gone into that ?
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2 in most of it 3 in critical areas, then filled the 20mm wide void of the splitter with foam to aid rigidity
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Awesome!
Youve lost weight too havent you? 
Hows Emma doing ?
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Nah just the angle bud, I enjoy food n booze too much. Lol
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Ha ha me thinks Mr boosted needs some fibreglass work done



What grade fibreglass is it Jamie ?
Assuming there are different grades ?
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First layer is regular 300 gram chopped strand any following layers 450 gram,
No exotic materials on this I’m on a budget lol
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Awesome!
Youve lost weight too havent you? 
Hows Emma doing ?
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Emma’s good thanks,
Walking 2-3 miles everyday. Coming on leaps n bounds
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Ha ha me thinks Mr boosted needs some fibreglass work done 


What grade fibreglass is it Jamie ?
Assuming there are different grades ?
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Lol!!! Bit like buying flowers for the Mrs..." what do you want ? Or what have you done ?" 
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Awesome!
Youve lost weight too havent you? 
Hows Emma doing ?
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Emma’s good thanks,
Walking 2-3 miles everyday. Coming on leaps n bounds
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Brill! 
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Ha ha me thinks Mr boosted needs some fibreglass work done 


What grade fibreglass is it Jamie ?
Assuming there are different grades ?
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Lol I’ve offered enough times, I’m not gonna beg for the work I have plenty on lolllll
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First layer is regular 300 gram chopped strand any following layers 450 gram,
No exotic materials on this I’m on a budget lol
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So just like fibreglass roofing grade ?
Wow
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First layer is regular 300 gram chopped strand any following layers 450 gram,
No exotic materials on this I’m on a budget lol
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So just like fibreglass roofing grade ?
Wow
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Yeah I guess so
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The process isn’t hard,
I’ve done hardly any fibreglassing before this project.
I watched a few you tube vids and had a go
The worst thing is the mess, dust n resin everywhere.
So tempted to blow the sanding dust over Emma’s knickers
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It’s off
Looks excellent, well done than man
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It’s off
Looks excellent, well done than man
Cheers
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Headlights n winkers on
Get close to polycarbonate covers.......
Gulp !
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Nice
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Awesomely great looking piece of artwork there :13:
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Awesomely great looking piece of artwork there :13:
Needs some paint lol
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Next piece
Any ideas?
Wayne I’d be disappointed if you didn’t get this
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Next piece
Any ideas?
Wayne I’d be disappointed if you didn’t get this
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Like they have on top of buses , is it so you can get Wi Fi onboard 

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BMW shark aerial ?
Lol Wayne not quite
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BMW shark aerial ?
Lol Wayne not quite
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Yeah man ha ha
Must be a fresh air vent then 

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Good man
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Can anyone help?
Done away with water pump in readiness for locating ewp.
Fitted a blanking plate but now I’m a pulley down I’ve ran out of adjustment on the alternator.
Has anyone done similar conversion ?
If its as simple as a shorter belt does anyone have a spec?
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Put the alternator in middle of adjuster and then see how much slack you got. minus that from current belt. remove belt the number should be on it which is its length. trundled off to motor factors and buy a new shorter belt. current belt minus slack equals new belt.
there are step changes in belt sizes so buy 2 sizes and that should avoid disappointment.
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Done it bud
The stock is 5pk817
And I bought a 5pk800 off eBay
Thanks for the response tho mate 
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Part A of the roof vent done
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Have to ask...accepting that you never sleep and appear to be able to do everything - is there a master spreadsheet, collection of fag packets, table napkins or blackboard somewhere on which you list tasks and chart progress? I get dizzy jumping from alternators to air vents and just wondered how you kept track of it all. :D
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Oh god no I make it up as I go along. Today is the first day I scrapped an idea and gone back to the drawing board, photo below.
I don’t have any drawings of how it’s gonna look. I know what’s in my head but I can’t put words to it lol.
I’ll get all the bodywork done when look at mechanicals
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Oh god no I make it up as I go along. Today is the first day I scrapped an idea and gone back to the drawing board, photo below.
I don’t have any drawings of how it’s gonna look. I know what’s in my head but I can’t put words to it lol.
I’ll get all the bodywork done when look at mechanicals
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Looks like a fan to take the air from your roof scoop
Good idea 

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Lol
I built the exit duct for the rad before I built the front end,with hindsight it looked like a wart on a models face
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Have to ask...accepting that you never sleep and appear to be able to do everything - is there a master spreadsheet, collection of fag packets, table napkins or blackboard somewhere on which you list tasks and chart progress? I get dizzy jumping from alternators to air vents and just wondered how you kept track of it all. :D
Jinx I wish I could do everything, I can’t spray, I’m rubbish at the understanding of auto electrics. I’ve never rebuilt a 4 stroke engine myself.
I know my limitations, I’d rather pay someone to do what they’re good at
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I always used to joke about the originality of this louts and the only stock thing left on it was the roof panel ........ whoops
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Hooray...score one (small) point for the armchair dreamer. :D I can paint....just not get anything I've ever made in glass fibre out of the mould intact, which makes being able to paint it....vaguely pointless. ;D.
BTW - As to originality - have you overlooked the doors? I seem to remember they still look like they did when it left Hethel?
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Hooray...score one (small) point for the armchair dreamer. :D I can paint....just not get anything I've ever made in glass fibre out of the mould intact, which makes being able to paint it....vaguely pointless. ;D.
BTW - As to originality - have you overlooked the doors? I seem to remember they still look like they did when it left Hethel?
No inner skin, they’re a bit floppy atmo.
Thinking of fitting door bars to the cage.
Not for safety, summat to perch on gettin in an out coz those kirkey seats come sharp.
The door bars will go into the void of the door for more room so a custom “door card†is required.
The side windows will be polycarbonate and fixed hence the need for a roof vent. So they won’t interfere with the door bars.
Lots to do.
Good man on the paint 


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The redneck lathe
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Smooth enough for filler
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Do you want chilli and salad with your kebab sir ?
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Donah kebab hot sauce n chips for me...give the salad to the rabbit!
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I’m happy with that
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I’m happy with that
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So you should be pal
That’s a cracking job
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I’m happy with that
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So you should be pal
That’s a cracking job
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Thanks Wayne
The bottom part that’s bolted to the roof I made again from scratch......
The tolerances were too tight and the lid wouldn’t go over the upstand on the sides.
I took the original off, threw it away in a fit of temper, took the mould, cut it into 3 pieces to remove 10 mm out the width, bonded the mould back together and made a new piece. Made the drain tube more of a horizontal angle too so the pipe can go over the main hoop of the tool cage
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You can see the scars on the mould
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Roll cage .... bloody tool cage
That would be a cage to hold me in
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Liking the look of that, nice lines :13:
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Liking the look of that, nice lines :13:
Thanks Malcolm
I’ve virtually ripped off the one from demon tweeks but with the curvature of the lotus roof.
I didn’t wanna pay the 300 quid when I can make one lol
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Filter arrived Clive
Many thanks
Money sent too 

Just gotta make a custom air box now ..... I’ll add it to the list of jobs that’s escalating
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Thanks Jamie, appreciated :great:
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You phone keeps calling me!

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What was kebab used for?
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You phone keeps calling me! 
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I thought it was vibrating in my pocket something down there must have dialled you lol
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Lol!

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What was kebab used for?
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Oooo not finished that one yet. It’s part of a pattern for exit ducts on the back of the red fans.
Waiting for polyurethane foam to arrive, then do pie cuts with my giganormous mitre block
I’ll throw some pics up at the time
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Rad fans ....
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Ahh, do wish I had the patience you do to undertake such things.
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Ahh, do wish I had the patience you do to undertake such things.
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I wish I was driving it believe me lol
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Love it
Looks like a magic box
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Intriguing..............
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I got loads of little mini projects on the go at the same time.
I've been taking pics, I'll do a mass upload soon.
Still havnt decided wether the kebab meat style duct is the right route to go yet, may do a conventional style aluminium duct yet.
Lots of things to weigh up, the air intake, access to all the other components, being able to even fit it in the car, rad hose routing, the opening in the bonnet.
Lots of things up in the air
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Now ya see it
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Well,
The "kebab" idea isnt working for me...... Shame, a lot of effort went into it, but thats prototyping. Ya have to get so far with something physical in your hands rather than staring at it.
It a bold move to go, no stop, and back to the drawing board, but I could have wasted even more time.
Next idea is underway, Ill post pics when its done I think.
More holes going in the bulkhead
Airbox underway going in passenger footwell up behind the glove box.
New centre caps for the steel wheels as the previous ones didnt work.
Incisions on the new front end to make it mm perfect
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Absolutely brilliant work

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Absolutely brilliant work 
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Cheers Kaveri
Longgggg way to go yet, I was hoping for completion this Xmas. However the realisation of making panels 3 times (pattern, mould and product) means it will get finished when it’s finished.
I’m not gonna rush it and make a dogs ear of it.
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A break from fibreglass
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Air box ?
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Yeah with rx8 sized k&n panel filter.
Original cone ram air filter up front wasn’t working for me
Air box in the passenger foot well behind the dash.
Access panel in the bulkhead and air intake comes from a high pressure cavity in between the inner and outer near side wing before it reaches the filter.
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Boobies mk2
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Cleaned out the garage for a better view
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Cleaned out the garage for a better view
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Nice lines on there Jamie
Very nice
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Looking mean...nice vibrant colour needed..

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Looking mean...nice vibrant colour needed..
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Maroon ?
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Looking mean...nice vibrant colour needed..
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Maroon ?
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I’d like to see it with a flash of primer so The front is all one colour .
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Yeah that would help tremendously
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Lines are looking really good Jamie :notworthy:
As said, be good to see in a single colour to get a better idea, but looking great :great:
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But not maroon.

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I had some spray outs done in maroon
One is imperial maroon the other black-red
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I’m not sold on them yet
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Could go Chevrolet sunburst orange with a silver roof and silver steel wheels
But it’s metallic ££££££
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I had some spray outs done in maroon
One is imperial maroon the other black-red
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Nice pin stripe 


Looks like a chrome piece for the old Wolsey doors .
Colour would match a Wolsey too .
It’s just such a shame that general public wouldn’t know how much work you have put in to it
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Wolsley cool lol
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Jon this vibrant enough for you ?
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Yes is that 1 of yours?
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Yes is that 1 of yours?
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Yeah
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Great to see it on its own feet, Wow it really is going to look amazing going down the road when it’s done------long journey but so worth it.
I know it must have been said already but you will need you send the exhaust parts in the engine bay and out to Mr Zircotech as this is the only process that actually works and will keep the temperatures in control to stop melting and catching things alight, which is never good
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Ceramic coating, exhaust wrap, and reflective stuff everywhere.
Taking no chances
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That’s the colour of my bike
Chevrolet inferno orange metallic
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Yes i like!
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Oh I like it
Im thinking go two tone with a silver roof and matching wheels
Or satin black accents with satin black wheels
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Or...Brg with tan leather interior..
Rotus V spec! Lol.
Yep sounds good
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The second word is off !
My lotus was brg when it left the factory
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I think the cat is out of the bag ref mine
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Black wheel are a fav of mine.
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When I think of lotus all I can think of us green and yellow
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When I think of lotus all I can think of us green and yellow
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How stereotypical lollllll
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Cleaned out the garage for a better view
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Looks badass 


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The eating end
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The pooping end
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Verry very well done

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Verry very well done 
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Oh don’t congratulate me yet lol.
This is my third attempt coz I’m fussy
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Starting to take shape now
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I can imagine your garage to be as dusty as one of Pablo escobars "packing rooms" haha
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Oh man it’s terrible I’ve another workshop next door and a kitchen after that, there’s a gym it the end. The dust gets in the gym .
I usually turn a fan on so it all blows outside I don’t like my neighbours anyway
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Oh man it’s terrible I’ve another workshop next door and a kitchen after that, there’s a gym it the end. The dust gets in the gym .
I usually turn a fan on so it all blows outside I don’t like my neighbours anyway
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Wrong room buddy ?
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Balls. Clicked on wrong thread

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Wrong room buddy ?
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I’m lost
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Balls. Clicked on wrong thread 
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I’d love to talk turbos with ya but I know more about quantum physics lol
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Wrong room buddy ?
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I’m lost
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Chose the path of Jesus my child.
You will never be lost again
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Wrong room buddy ?
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I’m lost
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Chose the path of Jesus my child.
You will never be lost again
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Always have brother
Next full service for us in Wales is 9th August , last was 22nd March
Can’t wait to get dressed up
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Wrong room buddy ?
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I’m lost
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I out my post for you in here but moderated it and deleted it lol
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Some minor gel coat repairs but the rad exit duct fits
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Looks real tidy
Just waiting for batman to climb from the inside now lol
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Loll
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:sign0098: coming along really nicely. Looking quite a beast from the front angle!
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Cheers
Making the formers for polycarbonate lenses now
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It can’t be any worse than that lol
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Looks like a failed attempt at making glass from the Middle Ages that you've dug up somewhere ;D
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Lol it’s not far off, let’s call it an experiment that went horribly wrong haha
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This cars looking epic...i think you need to bin off the renny and go 13brew Jamie. Youve earnt your stripes...go big !







13B rew!
Power to match the looks.
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One step at a time.
Need to find my feet on the track. Get used to the feel and characteristics.
If I do engine swap it will be pp 13b. Not going down turbo route.
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This cars looking epic...i think you need to bin off the renny and go 13brew Jamie. Youve earnt your stripes...go big ! 






13B rew!
Power to match the looks.
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Never mind the looks
It’s all about how much it’s weighs
I asked Ronnie Coleman how he thought I should build it,
This was his response .......
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Looking good. Just make sure you run MAF screens if you can
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Yup got 2 ready
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Got the original grille / number plate out the pit
Still fits 

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Laying up the male n female formers for the polycarbonate lenses
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Struggling this week. Losing my motivation. Be glad when making panels is finished
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Staggered you have had the motivation to get this far, too late to turn your back on your masterpiece now, you will get there :icon_thumright:
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You've come so far and the beast looks fantastic. You just have to finish it. I really want to see it moving under rotary power!
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It will get there
My life is just a piece of sandpaper
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So I have a shortlist.
Teals
Oranges
Dark reds( I’m calling it that for jons sanity)
And a couple of greens
Decisions decisions
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Put your lipstick and nail polishes away, you know your going to paint it lotus green and yellow....




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Put your lipstick and nail polishes away, you know your going to paint it lotus green and yellow.... 



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That’s on the weekend
And hadn’t thought about that but no
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Gosh, that's a wide choice!
Your decision of course, as to what you want to seen in ;), but the shapes you've created would stand out better with one of the brighter, lighter colours, IMHO.............
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I’m still leaning towards orange, as there’s is too many yellow cars on the forum lol
Followed by the dark reds....... don’t use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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I’m still leaning towards orange, as there’s is too many yellow cars on the forum lol
Followed by the dark reds....... don’t use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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I think the dark yellow on RS Renault would look lovely 

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I’m still leaning towards orange, as there’s is too many yellow cars on the forum lol
Followed by the dark reds....... don’t use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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I’m still leaning towards orange, as there’s is too many yellow cars on the forum lol
Followed by the dark reds....... don’t use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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Ha ha ok
Is said M work similar to the french Presidents name ?
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I’m still leaning towards orange, as there’s is too many yellow cars on the forum lol
Followed by the dark reds....... don’t use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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I think the dark yellow on RS Renault would look lovely 

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Yellow is my fav colour
Certainly “reddish yellow cocktail mica” that’s used on the Yamaha America race bikes if you think back to the days of kenny roberts
However, I could settle for orange as it might not attract as many flies in the summer lol
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I’m still leaning towards orange, as there’s is too many yellow cars on the forum lol
Followed by the dark reds....... don’t use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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Ha ha ok
Is said M work similar to the french Presidents name ?
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Lol possibly
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President Burgundy?



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President Burgundy? 


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That’s the badger lol
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Crap president...President Bleu much better!
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Looking at the shape all I can think of for colour is blue and orange Gulf paint scheme but not very original
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Yo yo yo
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So down to 3 well until today
I binned the burgundy
Either orange or metallic blue
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Ahhh. Finally seeing sense...orange or blue your choice



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Tried to make polycarbonate lenses today
Failed miserably
Bought some thinner stuff and some acrylic
Round 2 coming up
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Ahhh. Finally seeing sense...orange or blue your choice


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I held the burgundy metallic in the sunlight, it lit up like a glitter ball
Tacky
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Oh and I bought a 12a for rotary project number 2
Old skool cool
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Oooh, 12A..... what's that for I wonder!
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Oooh, 12A..... what's that for I wonder!
Now that will be telling lol
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Only about 3 years of welding ahead 
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Only about 3 years of welding ahead 
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Very nice job that jame
What boiler flue is it for 



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Only about 3 years of welding ahead 
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Very nice job that jame
What boiler flue is it for 



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Lol the rotary boiler
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The 12a Is stripped down ready for clean n paint
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Intake and exhaust all plumbed up now ....minus the heat shielding
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I'm confused, which is which bit and why so much pipe with no turbo? Lol
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Lol well there’s no room underneath for exhaust to run
I bought one of these stupid cars where the body bolts to the chassis where the exhaust tunnel would be
And turbos don’t interest me that much lol
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Looks good though, got to. Work in the space you have. Some strategic heat shielding should help with the heat

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Very impressed, just need to get some Zircotech plasma spray onto it ;)
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Very impressed, just need to get some Zircotech plasma spray onto it ;)
Yup and reflective gubbins everywhere
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Ah ok, i heard about a 25% decrease in temps if white cermaic is used.
Was gonna get some of that formable stuff that you have to stop burning ya feet in the foot well in addition to the cermaic. Just a belt n braces especially around the plastic intake manifold.
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Afternoon all, not been on for a while.
Well i should be in Portugal sipping on a G&T in the sun by the pool. (Pawl for Wayne lol )
But due to the man flu going round we postponed our holibobs 12 months. So had this week in Devon / Cornwall enjoying ourselves.
Even Clive spotted I was at the beach ! lol Nevermind, Brand Hatch next week, looking forward to that.
Anyway back to the Pedalo......
Ive tried numerous iterations of headlight covers, Im on round 3 and still failing. Ive decided to give up on that and try summat different.
Polycarbonate is obviously the best thing to use from an impact strength perspective at 250 times stronger than glass, but heating it up and "drape forming" wont work on my 3D shaped cover. Its too intricate, its fine for making windows to replace the glass in the car...... bottom line is they need to be thermo-formed which involves having billet aluminium CNC machined, a heating and cooling core running through it and a vacuum to suck the molten polycarb to the formers. £££££££
Round 1 was with 3mm polycarb, no good.
Round 2 was with 1mm polycarb, no good.
Round 3 was with 3mm acrylic, it bends beautifully!!!! Tap it with a hammer afterwards and it just cracks.
It cracks when i cut it or drill it. Imagine a cold morning blasting round and a stone flicking up from the car in front and bang.
I even phoned a plastic moulding company down by Malcolm that did prototype work. He cut me short halfway through my explanation and said he wont even entertain polycarb, its a pig to work with, leaves marks and just no.......
He even said they mould massive hemispherical dome which they can fit 4 people in. Im thinking back to those american custom cars of the 60s and 70s that had a clear bubble roof instead of a normal roof with glass, yeah you know the ones.
Well he said acrylic is no good for my application.
So the only option at this stage is head light shrouds. FD below shows what I mean, Ive posted some of my disastrous attempts too for you to mock me lol, yes yes i am human after all hahaha
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How about looking for existing 1s made for cars that can be made to fit....lotus elise, vx220 lenses for example

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first search im sure there are loads and cheaper....
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loads on fleabay.
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How about looking for existing 1s made for cars that can be made to fit....lotus elise, vx220 lenses for example
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I honestly think ill be wasting my time bud, I remember you mentioning about doing some repairs to the RX8 ones.
Ive looked at lots of different shapes, even the lotus elise ones are uni-axial i.e. 1 bend. its bending it around on that second bend.
The material needs to stretch. Imagine trying to wrap a piece of A4 paper around a football...... it gathers up around the edges as theres too much material in the wrong areas.
what I SHOULD have done was to simplify my design of the headlight layout when I made the front end, or try bending some polycarb before hand to realise the limitation with multi axial components.
Ah well, win some lose some. Im not too disheartend by it
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Rads too tight and change of directions
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If it was just that front bend and didn’t have the bit on the side wrapping round I’d stand a chance
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Yep Firesafety and all that!
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Headlights going in a new direction, and I don’t mean bolted to the back of the car ......
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I like that, almost looks like dodge demon head lights if you squint lol
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Yeah Hellcatesque.
looks smart mean!
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Mixed with a bit of Alfa Romeo ?
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Ish
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Ford Capri mun
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Ford Capri mun
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Are you on drugs? Ya been smoking leeks ? Lol
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Ford Capri mun
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Are you on drugs? Ya been smoking leeks ? Lol
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Ha ha
Must be the antibiotics 
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Boooo frowning headlights ;) Good progress bro. Catch you when you're back. Probably the usual Friday after work jobbie if you aren't busy haha. If not earlier. We can get that 12a cleaned up and ready for more rotors in your shed
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Boooo frowning headlights ;) Good progress bro. Catch you when you're back. Probably the usual Friday after work jobbie if you aren't busy haha. If not earlier. We can get that 12a cleaned up and ready for more rotors in your shed
Sweet yeah Jon’s on the case
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Headlight covers de moulded, next bit ticked off
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Headlight covers de moulded, next bit ticked off
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Very impressive Jamie
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Very impressive Jamie
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I dunno where my inspiration comes from .......
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Very impressive Jamie
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I dunno where my inspiration comes from .......
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Your missing a parrot on your shoulder
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Very impressive Jamie
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I dunno where my inspiration comes from .......
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Your missing a parrot on your shoulder
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Oh the beard !!!!
Lol I was trying to of pirates that wore welding goggles haha
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Very impressive Jamie
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I dunno where my inspiration comes from .......
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Your missing a parrot on your shoulder
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Oh the beard !!!!
Lol I was trying to of pirates that wore welding goggles haha
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Ha ha
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New aero
Nicknamed the blob
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More dust
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Epic work buddy
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Ain’t nuthin to scream about yet.
If it covers those unsightly sill bolts I’m happy
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What was colin chapman thinking ? Pffft
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Not far off the first pattern of the last bodywork pieces
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Yay like that...this cars gonna be mean looking.
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I pray it’s got a bit of go to match the show
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Im sure it will!

and flames too.
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:bravo_2: Nice skirts
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:bravo_2: Nice skirts
Skirts? where? Wit woo
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Paid for my one off rotary 3D printed centre caps today
15 quid each. Bargain for bespoke work when you compare it to caps off t’interweb
Helps when ya have 3D CAD software and ya can just ping them a file
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That’s looking bloody lovely Jamie
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That’s looking bloody lovely Jamie
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Fanx big W
Hopefully should be easier to mould than previous parts
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Well done Jamie, still thinking outside the box.
What was the web address for geting this done, maybe for anyone else wanting to have parts made.
Hopefully non cad mortals can get this done as well.
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That's looks great Jamie
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Well done Jamie, still thinking outside the box.
What was the web address for geting this done, maybe for anyone else wanting to have parts made.
Hopefully non cad mortals can get this done as well.
The best way to get hold of him is through Facebook.
Search for BB3D engineering services.
Ideally he needs a cad file to model from because that’s what the software calls upon.
But that’s something I can help anyone with if I got a part to measure or a decent set of fag packet sketches with critical dims on.
I don’t mind modelling summat up.
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That's looks great Jamie
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Cheers, getting there slowly
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Cool :13:
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Finally !!!
After cutting the headlight shrouds up and glassing them back together again they finally fit
I hate them I never wanna see them again!
The whole polycarb / acrylic / shroud / pattern / mould fiasco just took too much time.
Anyway. ..... onward
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Looking smart! With all that dust you keep the windcreen very clean

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I know right
That dust is just from today. I wonder if I tip some linseed oil back in the tin I can make filler again lol
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Looking good
Oddly mad max was set in 2021 I think
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Looking good
Oddly mad max was set in 2021 I think
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Haha
I know I have mental health probs, but no need to call me mad max
Lolll
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Looking good
Oddly mad max was set in 2021 I think
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Haha
I know I have mental health probs, but no need to call me mad max
Lolll
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Finally !!!
After cutting the headlight shrouds up and glassing them back together again they finally fit
I hate them I never wanna see them again!
The whole polycarb / acrylic / shroud / pattern / mould fiasco just took too much time.
Anyway. ..... onward
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Finally !!!
After cutting the headlight shrouds up and glassing them back together again they finally fit
I hate them I never wanna see them again!
The whole polycarb / acrylic / shroud / pattern / mould fiasco just took too much time.
Anyway. ..... onward
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Thanks Paul!
Long time no see, hope you’re keeping well ? 
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Been better. On the mend now.
Beer + one wheel electric skate board =(censored)ed finger.
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What are you like?
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Blimin hell mate. Been through it then. Looks like your coming out the otherside ok.
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The surgeon said I exploded the knuckle joint. The xray today shows a big gap/gorge on the joint surface. Going to give me trouble for life I think.
Second night off the booze! I picked up a 4 pack of beer earlier at tescos, called myself a twat and put it back on the shelf
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Really sad to hear that you will have permanent damage as a result of that injury Jamie :(
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Really sad to hear that you will have permanent damage as a result of that injury Jamie :(
It’s Paul mate, my digits are ok, for now ....
Paul I’m trying to put a positive spin on the situation but struggling without defying the rules of the forum being a family show.
Well done on the will power, I know you battled with overcoming this before.
Oooooo theres a link, if you cast your mind back to an advert from the 90s I think.
You now have a “Heineken finger” .... “ it refreshes parts other fingers cannot reach”
You’re gonna have to let your imagination do the rest lol
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Really sad to hear that you will have permanent damage as a result of that injury Jamie :(
It’s Paul mate, my digits are ok, for now ....
Doh! That's one of the problems with reading and replying on a phone screen. Didn't spot the avatar with ageing eyesight and assumed it was Jamie posting on his topic ;)
Glad it's not the accident prone Jamie then ;), but very sorry for Paul.
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Have you got the engine started yet? Or is the wiring scaring you still
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Have you got the engine started yet? Or is the wiring scaring you still
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I’m on my last body panel pattern then I can start wiring and plumbing.
Dun think I’ll be starting the engine as it’s gonna get stripped apart for a rebuild, but if I can get it turning over and firing that’s a start.
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Maybe the worlds biggest cracker bar
Wheel in the shot for perspective lol
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What’s the big bar for ?
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Got to be a 54mm to undo the flywheel nut ?
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Got to be a 54mm to undo the flywheel nut ?
Correctamundo!!
Jesse’s 13b needs to get the back end off his engine.
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Make shift flywheel locker .... a piece of drilled flat and a bolt in roll cage bracket as a washer
A 17 stone bearded man stood on the engine stand to stop it wheelieing.
We didn’t have a 1” drive impact drive to give it the “ugger-duggas” so mechanical advantage won with brute force n ignorance
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Got to be a 54mm to undo the flywheel nut ?
Correctamundo!!
Jesse’s 13b needs to get the back end off his engine.
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Make shift flywheel locker .... a piece of drilled flat and a bolt in roll cage bracket as a washer
A 17 stone bearded man stood on the engine stand to stop it wheelieing.
We didn’t have a 1” drive impact drive to give it the “ugger-duggas” so mechanical advantage won with brute force n ignorance
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I find it’s the flywheel removal is the hardest part
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Thankfully this engine been worked on before so it wasn’t “Mazda tight”
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Thankfully this engine been worked on before so it wasn’t “Mazda tight”
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Nice lightweight flywheel
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Yeah that’s had a hard life too, couple of hot spots
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Wayne..whack the flywheel...as its resonating..(that zingeing sound). Pull it off.

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So in case you all thought I died. I’m still lurking
But not doing anything exciting
Making inner wheel arch liners to keep the crap out the engine bay from the tyres
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Oh and a little trick I learned from reading a book written by Adrian newey where he cheated or shall I say found a loophole in the regulations of formula 1 which did wonders for preventing turbulent air from the front wheels going down the underside of the car.
So in simplest terms it’s a 1” angle iron hanging down but curved outwards and made from grp in case I bottom out, I can make a new one from the moulds and I won’t bore you all with vortex’s
No idea if I will see any benefit from it, but as mr Tesco says...... every little helps
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Had the Adrian bible book for a year, best open it sometime soon then ;)
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Had the Adrian bible book for a year, best open it sometime soon then ;)
If we’re on about his auto biography It’s a good read, took it on holiday earlier this year and blitzed it in 3 days.
He’s quite a character, I think I’d like him if I ever met him in person.
He told an hilarious story about Nigel mansel when there was strong rivalry with team mates. I think it was Jean alesi, and as a team they should share data, Nigel used to come back into the pits and turn all his suspension settings from the cockpit all over the place knowing that jean alesi’s team would copy the settings lol.
Adrian even swapped the whole stock of suspension springs in the garage for ones that wouldn’t work so the other team used them.
He’s not up himself like that Louis Hammersmith driver fella
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Clive...... do you remember walking to the museum at beaulieu the other year with me n the father in law, we came across that car on the field with vortex generators that were “Velcro’ed” to the front bumper??
Well I think I’ve topped it off with cardboard n gaffer tape lol
Should add at least 2000lbs on the front end before the tape gives way.
Just pray it doesnt rain
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However I have the professional heavy duty version with additional set square, g clamp and steel rule.
Colin chapman would not be impressed with the additional weight
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Today’s choice materials is ..... clay
I’ll be making plates next
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Making shark models
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Good to see progress continues Jamie :13:
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Enthusiasm is a at rock bottom at mo malcolm
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Fitted a new clutch on the bike this morning just for a change of scenery
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So.......... been beating myself up a lot psychologically recently ....
I had set myself a dead line of 3 years for this project and this Christmas will be 3 years since I started tearing down the original Lotus.
Clearly I'm not going to get this finished on time, but during my insomnia time I've been going over stuff thinking, what the f*** have you been playing at????? so I've put myself a bit of a list to try and help me come to terms as to why I failed my deadline.
You all know by now how boring the process of fibre glassing is ..... pattern, mould, product, so yeah everything is done 3 times....
So besides designing the chassis on CAD, building it, making a roll cage, fabricating the headers and full exhaust system, custom fuel tank, adjustable pedal box mounting design, Ive managed to build the rest out of fibreglass
Transmission tunnel
Diff tunnel
N/S and O/S Rear inner arches
Boot floor
Rear light shrouds
Dashboard
Centre console
Dash Top
N/S and O/S rear quarters
N/S and O/S front wings
N/S and O/S front inner wings
Front nose cone inc splitter and Oil Cooler inlet ducts
Exhaust tunnel
N/S and O/S side skirts
N/S and O/S Cannards
N/S and O/S Headlight shrouds
Fuel filler recess panel
2 part roof scoop
Rear bumper
Spoiler
Diffuser
N/S and O/S Auxiliary diffusers
Bonnet
Radiator intake duct
2 part radiator exit duct
N/S and O/S Oil cooler exit ducts
N/S and O/S Front Brake disc cooler ducts
Airbox cover
N/S and O/S Under floor vortex generators
N/S and O/S front inner wheel arch liners
......... and breathe
I guess ive been busy :-\ :-\ :-\
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Don't beat yourself up about it, Jamie. You have made tremendous progress. It's the old thing of "how do you eat an elephant?" - a bite at a time and you'll get there eventually.
My progress, or lack of, with KIMI 1 is pathetic compared to what you have done in 3 years on Rotus, and I'm retired!
Just keep biting at it ;)
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Don't beat yourself up about it, Jamie. You have made tremendous progress. It's the old thing of "how do you eat an elephant?" - a bite at a time and you'll get there eventually.
My progress, or lack of, with KIMI 1 is pathetic compared to what you have done in 3 years on Rotus, and I'm retired!
Just keep biting at it ;)
Cheers Malcolm.
I just have so many other project I wanna build too before I’m too old
Anyway .....
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So.......... been beating myself up a lot psychologically recently ....
I had set myself a dead line of 3 years for this project and this Christmas will be 3 years since I started tearing down the original Lotus.
Clearly I'm not going to get this finished on time, but during my insomnia time I've been going over stuff thinking, what the f*** have you been playing at????? so I've put myself a bit of a list to try and help me come to terms as to why I failed my deadline.
You all know by now how boring the process of fibre glassing is ..... pattern, mould, product, so yeah everything is done 3 times....
So besides designing the chassis on CAD, building it, making a roll cage, fabricating the headers and full exhaust system, custom fuel tank, adjustable pedal box mounting design, Ive managed to build the rest out of fibreglass
Transmission tunnel
Diff tunnel
N/S and O/S Rear inner arches
Boot floor
Rear light shrouds
Dashboard
Centre console
Dash Top
N/S and O/S rear quarters
N/S and O/S front wings
N/S and O/S front inner wings
Front nose cone inc splitter and Oil Cooler inlet ducts
Exhaust tunnel
N/S and O/S side skirts
N/S and O/S Cannards
N/S and O/S Headlight shrouds
Fuel filler recess panel
2 part roof scoop
Rear bumper
Spoiler
Diffuser
N/S and O/S Auxiliary diffusers
Bonnet
Radiator intake duct
2 part radiator exit duct
N/S and O/S Oil cooler exit ducts
N/S and O/S Front Brake disc cooler ducts
Airbox cover
N/S and O/S Under floor vortex generators
N/S and O/S front inner wheel arch liners
......... and breathe
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Your doing well
I never say a date on a project nor a price
Just a rough guesstimate ......
then you can’t go wrong , once your fighting the clock that the end of it .....
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Yep. Suck it up buttercup
lol only joking..tough love
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I’m feeling the love bud
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Just dip into the small ads on various sites and count the number of stalled kit car projects for sale...and they came with a build manual as well as off the shelf solutions. Slow progress is not calculated in weeks, months or years. The correct benchmark is decades. How do I know this? Don't ask. I'd be too embarrassed to tell you....but it's still here and no closer to being finished than it was thirty, make that forty, years ago.
It might be genetic. My 'next generation' has a project now easing into its second decade. Given I recently opened a drawer here and found a leaflet on woodworm treatment that was issued by the Department of Works in 1956, we either have a pathological aversion to throwing stuff away and/or enjoy taunting ourselves with our own incapacity to finish s***. (In some cases the woodworm do that for us.) I'm not sure either of those is healthier than the other.
By comparison your progress is positively meteoric and as you know, your work rate usually leaves me breathless, so I've been quite glad of the recent respite without ever suspecting you might be a fellow sufferer/celebrant of the art of never reaching the end of any journey. Keep calm and carry on? :D
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Well I appreciate the comments of confidence chaps, I genuinely do.
But when you have a mental state where “ not all your dogs are barking” like mine, it’s easy to set the bar too high for yourself and never be able to congratulate yourself despite others views.
Enough drivel..... must press on
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Come on yer big tart...get out in the garage and crack on MRC is for winners!!!!




Hows that for motivation?
Im freezing my moobs off and my hands are all dry and cut up...so if you are to will make me feel better 
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Nope I’m in the warmth of the shed, radiator on , joining my canards together
Moobs???? You??? Ive seen more fat on an apple
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Little 1s lol..im freezing in garage.. ac dc keeping me going.
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Is Tim giving you a live performance?
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Lol..beetlejuice beetlejuice...nah...
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My canards have just thrown up lol
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Well a successful morning
Canards practically fell out the moulds. Thin layer of GRP, gel coat and PU foam filled for increased stiffness and rigidity while staying very lightweight.
Made 20mm thick so it has a 10mm rad on the leading edge. This air stuff doesn't like thin leading edges, it causes separation you need to maintain the boundary layer.
Anyway, a quick sand, gel coat over the foam filling hole and fit ...........
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I do like that
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I do like that
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Yep looks mega 
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It could be complete overkill but if I’m gonna make them now is the time while the body has no paint on.
I could always leave them off
See how it goes ....
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Suits the aggressive looks...imo
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I've been quietly watching this thread for .... well a while (I'm not a stalker mind
) and your sheer skill, determination and the fact you find the time in amongst everyday stuff is truly impressive. I'm sure we all wish we could do what you have achieved so far, let alone what this project has the potential to become! Sadly my skill level is nowhere near that but I really enjoy catching up on your progress. Keep going mate, we're all behind you 
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Thanks Matt for the kind words. I just throw myself in at the deep end and hope for the best.
Had a set back this week with side skirts and canards.
So I too am lurking in the shadows trying to rectify stuff and make it work.
I’m very fortunate I have an understanding wife to be who has her own hobbies but on the plus side we’re not under each other’s feet all day. It’s all about balance. Thankfully she realises I have an odd screw loose and being in the shed keeps my temperament down rather than watching tv and getting cabin fever.
Everybody has the abilities to build something unique. It’s just stuff I’ve picked up over the years. I’ve been tinkering with stuff for 30 years, but each of my projects are more technically challenging than the next .


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See, an example I am human lol.
Didn’t put enough wax on the mould, the product lost some gel coat and glass and the mould did the same and remained on the product
I won’t make that mistake again lol
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Canards and end fences to finish the front end
That riv-nut gun is the bomb !!!
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Oh....rivet gun!! I think I've just added a new toy on my list for Santa

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Well the first one is on
A bit of fettling required but it’s there.
Estimated about 3 kg..... if I made it outta carbon the car may have floated away lol
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Well the first one is on
A bit of fettling required but it’s there.
Estimated about 3 kg..... if I made it outta carbon the car may have floated away lol
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Oh yes
I do like that
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Getting there :great:
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Ive been working with farbon today!!!Farbon from Wuhan..
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If your wing isn't 3 feet above the boot it won't give you mad down force

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Nice bit of kit John


Didn’t even have to get ya hands dirty
Looks expensive !
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Lol £137!!! And 39 days to arrive from china...its plastic i think...
Ive put all my weight off 82kg onit and it held it!!
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If your wing isn't 3 feet above the boot it won't give you mad down force 
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Like this ?? lol
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Lol £137!!! And 39 days to arrive from china...its plastic i think...
Ive put all my weight off 82kg onit and it held it!!
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I was 82kg once.......
I think I was a teenager
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Lightweight babyyyyy!
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Lollll looks like romain grojeans car after he crashed through the barrier
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Looks impressive!
I couldn’t make those brackets for 137 quid
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That’s different to mine
I never had the centre mount
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That’s different to mine
I never had the centre mount
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That’s to activate the drs lol
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Lol..b4 it got bolted down!!
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Im gonna look at prat driving it to work though 

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just make sure it’s dark
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Get enough speed with that wing and you shall be pulling wheelies
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Im extending front splitter and sideskirts and rear diffuser...giving an aero ago..car has good mechanical grip so will see what all the magic witchcraft is about.
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This thing is coming more n more like a time attack car than a road car .... hmmmmm
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Can’t decide...... views ?
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Looks very smart!
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Can’t decide...... views ?
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Not sure
Will it be open or. Closed off ?
If it’s open will give some down for e I guess
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Oh definitely open just a brace at the top to stop it flapping, trying to get some high pressure air out the front wheel well down the sides of the car and not under it
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Can’t decide...... views ?
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Not sure
Will it be open or. Closed off ?
If it’s open will give some down for e I guess
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It’s completely removeable and brings the side skirt a bit lower to the floor, if I ground it out it’s replaceable.
Or I could just not fit it.....
..... or try a diff shape.
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Can’t decide...... views ?
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Not sure
Will it be open or. Closed off ?
If it’s open will give some down for e I guess
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It’s completely removeable and brings the side skirt a bit lower to the floor, if I ground it out it’s replaceable.
Or I could just not fit it.....
..... or try a diff shape.
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Shape looks good
How wide would the wheels have to be ?
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Had I planned this 3 years ago I would have made my front wings completely diff lol
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Can’t decide...... views ?
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Not sure
Will it be open or. Closed off ?
If it’s open will give some down for e I guess
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It’s completely removeable and brings the side skirt a bit lower to the floor, if I ground it out it’s replaceable.
Or I could just not fit it.....
..... or try a diff shape.
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Shape looks good
How wide would the wheels have to be ?
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The wheels are flush with the outside of the flappy bit.
I used the outside face of the wheels as a datum to make the side skirts from when I built the pattern.
The canards at the front are the widest point of the car for obvious reasons
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Can’t decide...... views ?
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Not sure
Will it be open or. Closed off ?
If it’s open will give some down for e I guess
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It’s completely removeable and brings the side skirt a bit lower to the floor, if I ground it out it’s replaceable.
Or I could just not fit it.....
..... or try a diff shape.
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Shape looks good
How wide would the wheels have to be ?
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The wheels are flush with the outside of the flappy bit.
I used the outside face of the wheels as a datum to make the side skirts from when I built the pattern.
The canards at the front are the widest point of the car for obvious reasons
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All
Good then
have faith brother 

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It was just summat Jon said yesterday about going to work with his rear wing....
I can imagine the convo in our house ....
Jamie: Emma! I’m just nipping you Tesco for some milk....
Emma: what car you going in?
Jamie: the rotus......why?
Emma: you f%*#ing going via Pikes Peak ??
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It was just summat Jon said yesterday about going to work with his rear wing....
I can imagine the convo in our house ....
Jamie: Emma! I’m just nipping you Tesco for some milk....
Emma: what car you going in?
Jamie: the rotus......why?
Emma: you f%*#ing going via Pikes Peak ??
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Funny film...... just the opening credits on show.
Remind me of myself in the shed " thats streamlining that is" hahahahaha
85 years old that film and he was building aero back then hahaha
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From that angle the rotus looks like a jgtc rx7
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I’m gonna have to google that.....
.... you may as well be talking Russian mate
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Christ I wish !
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That’s said grant .... I have no qualms about having a Mazda-esqe appearance to the rotus.
Theres more Mazda parts than lotus parts.
The 110 Cosmo was nicknamed the elan from Japan......
.... seems only fair to pay homage to a rotary from yesteryears
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Whats wrong with getting milk via the mountains?? I must be missing something
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Based on most the cars in my local supermarket, Rotus would look like class! Probably only get a 2 pint in it safely though 
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Whats wrong with getting milk via the mountains?? I must be missing something
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Based on most the cars in my local supermarket, Rotus would look like class! Probably only get a 2 pint in it safely though 
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Yup the average shopping car looks the same as each other, regardless of the badge.
Way of the world these days. Cars designed to be economical with low wind resistance, encap safety ratings, and even car manufacturers sharing the the same base platform as a joint venture to save £££
Gone are the days when a man put pen to paper and drew what was in his heart. Once in a while a car comes out like the Rx vision and stops us in our tracks and we think ....please build it.
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It was just summat Jon said yesterday about going to work with his rear wing....
I can imagine the convo in our house ....
Jamie: Emma! I’m just nipping you Tesco for some milk....
Emma: what car you going in?
Jamie: the rotus......why?
Emma: you f%*#ing going via Pikes Peak ??
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