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Title: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2018, 05:12:19 AM
Hello FC gurus!

Weird opportunity came before me straight out of the bushes  ;D I might have change to purchase stunning -92 T2 vert LHD!

She has 90t km on clock, no rust, no oil leaks, no oil consumption, quite good roof, engine has it horses even tho no comp check. Current owner have had it for 11 years I think. Well, car is in really good overal condition.

Then I started to think, I know nothing about FCs.  :)) So, any advise would be good, what to check, what to worry, and so on...?

Cheers
Japi
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: RE5 on June 09, 2018, 08:18:39 AM
Check all the normal Rotary things, I just bought a new roof from Rock Auto ($290).   Ensre you use correct plugs, they have "L & R" marked on them.   You tend drive them fast as they love it so Fuel consumption is heavy!
Just finished restoring mine & love it:-
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: boosted on June 09, 2018, 10:25:26 AM
Jarno, with prices rising and if a good price then go for it, usual checks such as get up to temp confirm fans cutting in and out switched off and wait 10 mins ( like getting fuel at gas station)... Re-start car should start easily no excessive cranking....need to drive it or have owner take you on a drive, revs out clean and smooth no misfires or boost issues. then really its normal car checks like youd do on piston motor....tyres, brakes, leaks colour of oil, service history etc...and rust dont take anyones word for it....have you got a advisorys system like our UK mot test that highlights any issues with the car that have met the standard but only just, its a good crystal ball as what bills are looming...
good investment and awesome pressie for your daughter on her 18th...( thats what you can tell the mrs).....if funds tight share with your bro?
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2018, 10:47:25 AM
Check all the normal Rotary things, I just bought a new roof from Rock Auto ($290).   Ensre you use correct plugs, they have "L & R" marked on them.   You tend drive them fast as they love it so Fuel consumption is heavy!
Just finished restoring mine & love it:-
Car looks excatly like yours but rims are black(ish)...

Damn, thats actually not bad price for roof...

Thanks :)


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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2018, 11:00:49 AM
Jarno, with prices rising and if a good price then go for it, usual checks such as get up to temp confirm fans cutting in and out switched off and wait 10 mins ( like getting fuel at gas station)... Re-start car should start easily no excessive cranking....need to drive it or have owner take you on a drive, revs out clean and smooth no misfires or boost issues. then really its normal car checks like youd do on piston motor....tyres, brakes, leaks colour of oil, service history etc...and rust dont take anyones word for it....have you got a advisorys system like our UK mot test that highlights any issues with the car that have met the standard but only just, its a good crystal ball as what bills are looming...
good investment and awesome pressie for your daughter on her 18th...( thats what you can tell the mrs).....if funds tight share with your bro?
Thant is true. That car is not cheap, but its in very good condition. And its LHD so it is rare. Supposed to be only one LHD T2 Vert here, in road anyways. 10k € is asking price and I think its worth it...

Our MoT check system is shit... Howerer,  current owner is long time rotary enthusiast, he knows these things. He purchased it from Germany 11 years ago, from first owner.

He has done several big road trips with it, no problems at all. Car passes MoT every year without any problem.

Yeah, I talked to wife yesterday.  She said that its sofa nights for me then. I said that I dont give a crap... My daughter wants that car too...

Cheers for info! :)

Btw, is there 2+2 seater version of Convertible? Or are they all only 2 seaters?

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: boosted on June 09, 2018, 11:05:32 AM
There is another way to think of it.....good for your health....give up the fags for the rotary...you can always vape...amazed how much i saved quitting smoking..
So no more fags and RX7 t2 convertible....on the drive....


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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: boosted on June 09, 2018, 11:06:11 AM
Only 2 seats that i know off...

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2018, 11:08:56 AM
There is another way to think of it.....good for your health....give up the fags for the rotary...you can always vape...amazed how much i saved quitting smoking..
So no more fags and RX7 t2 convertible....on the drive....


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True, I really should quit smoking... But Im oldschool stubborn, I dont vape...

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: boosted on June 09, 2018, 11:14:54 AM
I wont preach...just add up what it cost....its literally like burning money....

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: boosted on June 09, 2018, 11:18:55 AM
Vaping costs me £30 a month max...i used tobe a 20 aday smoker in my 20s...prob 40 when on a night out.
Anyway no more preaching...

Jarno with Rx7 T2 'vert would be cool...

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2018, 12:54:47 PM
Vaping costs me £30 a month max...i used tobe a 20 aday smoker in my 20s...prob 40 when on a night out.
Anyway no more preaching...

Jarno with Rx7 T2 'vert would be cool...

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Well, I smoke about 30-40 a day... At one point, went about 60...
 Smokes are cheaper here than in Uk. About 6,80€ a pack at the moment. But they are getting really expencive...
Bro hasnt smoke in year and half now. But he uses alot chewinggum...

I really would like an FD, but at the moment there is not good options for sale. And that LHD really calls me. After all, I dont need frickin missile to cruise around. FC has enough potential to drive around, even with less power than FD...



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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2018, 12:56:41 PM
Only 2 seats that i know off...

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Bugger... well I quess that wife dont want to co drive and cruise with me in that car anyways. So 2 seats are enough for me and Mona

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: boosted on June 09, 2018, 02:01:28 PM
€2248 a year...
So in 10 years € 22,448...

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2018, 07:15:42 PM
€2248 a year...
So in 10 years € 22,448...

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Yep...

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2018, 07:24:55 PM
Just heard that FC might have some ecu chip in it. Can it be seen some how?

If I remember right, KevYorks said that swapping FDs intake manifold on it, it can make more power. I think he said that it needs some adapters tho...? But does it need FDs throttle body too, that I cant remember...?

Also, stock boost is? 0,6bar? And 0,8 is max in that engine?

And then there is oil question. I think Ill might go with premix. But does other oil systems need update? Read that FCs weak point is that bellet in e shatf. I do have new AtkinsRotarys thermal bellet in garage...

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 15, 2018, 04:03:05 AM
Umm... What kind of ecu FCs have? I mean, can fault codes or something like that checked?

Also, whats best option for pickyback ecu?
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: KenD on June 15, 2018, 08:47:34 PM
Not entirely sure about the TII ECU but this article may assist:
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/HOWTO/ERRORCODES/KOUKI/kerror.html (http://fc3spro.com/TECH/HOWTO/ERRORCODES/KOUKI/kerror.html)

Hope this may offer some help.

Cheers
Ken




Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 17, 2018, 07:50:41 AM
Thanks :)
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 18, 2018, 07:31:20 PM
Ok, seems like only problem in this car is that windscreen wipers arent working way they should. Middle speed wont work..

Also,  right doors power window is abit slow. Ground error?

I think I will get this car...

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: kev-yorks on June 18, 2018, 09:47:11 PM
Jarno the wiper issue is a common one and is usually just a case of swapping out the micro relays within the switch.......... there's a few write ups on the procedure. I've relays at work waiting to be soldered in the orange cars switch as it's the same issue, so can post the numbers if required.
The window can be as simple as a good spray of silicon on the seals and grease the runners as they dry out over time, without checking the car though that's a educated guess rather than certainty.

Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 19, 2018, 04:00:08 AM
Thanks sir :) Yes, I just read from somewhere that its quite common. Cars owner said that its been like that since he purchased it. However, I dont see this being issue, cause I dont plan to drive this car in the rain...

True, dont know for sure what wrong with it. I dont think its anything bad tho...

Well, its and old car, and my understanding is that FCs have some electrical issues.

Just got more info about her. And few picks. Damn she is beautiful.  :love4:
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: RE5 on June 19, 2018, 08:36:33 PM
Have a look at the link below as the wiper is a common fault, this may help:-

http://fc3spro.com/TECH/HOWTO/WIPER/wiper.html
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 20, 2018, 03:56:35 AM
Thanks! :)
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2018, 09:29:37 AM
So, lets talk about FCs OMP! Is it as reliable than in other REs?  ;) What should I check?
Im really leaning towards Premix too. Unnessecary?

Few days ago I said to that cars owner that I will take her. Cant wait, Ill get it 2nd of June! :great: :love4:

And funny thing happened. Car is based at Kuusamo and that is 756km north from me. I said as an joke that he should bring it to me. He agree to drive it to Turku, only 127km from me in west. He said that he love road trip and he is going to his friends birthday anyways...
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: kev-yorks on June 23, 2018, 11:28:58 AM
I've not had one fail Jarno however I tend to blank and premix while I'm in that size of the bay upping turbo size which invariably happens.
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: boosted on June 23, 2018, 03:36:54 PM
Fantastic News Jarno, and wow owner bringing all that way means he is very confident in his car! Id premix mate just for peace of mind.

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: Casey on June 23, 2018, 04:50:55 PM
 :sign0098: nice one Jarno  :13:
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: RE5 on June 23, 2018, 07:16:49 PM
So, lets talk about FCs OMP! Is it as reliable than in other REs?  ;) What should I check?
Im really leaning towards Premix too. Unnessecary?

The S5 TII OMP is electronic & if not  working shuts down the Turbo etc.
I have mine  & I premix with Synth 2 Stroke (Stihl 4 Mix) @ 350 - 1 on both FB & FC.
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2018, 07:28:35 PM
I've not had one fail Jarno however I tend to blank and premix while I'm in that size of the bay upping turbo size which invariably happens.
Really? So they are very reliable. Good... :)

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2018, 07:34:14 PM
Fantastic News Jarno, and wow owner bringing all that way means he is very confident in his car! Id premix mate just for peace of mind.

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Yeah, Im so frickin happy :D

Yes he is. He loves to take her in to long road trips, and she has never failed him...

As I said car is absolutely stunning condition. Even thou engine has 90k km on it, it works like a charm...

Well, because of that 90k km on clock, I think Ill premix, just to be sure, and to get that engine maybe a longer life...

Although if it goes, I can always ask Kevs advice and parts for ridicilous fast FC Vert build...  ;) :D

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2018, 07:36:45 PM


So, lets talk about FCs OMP! Is it as reliable than in other REs?  ;) What should I check?
Im really leaning towards Premix too. Unnessecary?

The S5 TII OMP is electronic & if not  working shuts down the Turbo etc.
I have mine  & I premix with Synth 2 Stroke (Stihl 4 Mix) @ 350 - 1 on both FB & FC.

Oh, that I didnt know. Thanks :)

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: boosted on June 23, 2018, 07:44:58 PM
So itll go into limp so cant do any harm, yep premix in tank, so pleased youve got a rotary, that first WOT..surge of power, reach for the gearstick, NO..3000 more til rev limit....hold it next gear wot Boost, so much go so many revs...

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2018, 08:20:35 PM


So itll go into limp so cant do any harm, yep premix in tank, so pleased youve got a rotary, that first WOT..surge of power, reach for the gearstick, NO..3000 more til rev limit....hold it next gear wot Boost, so much go so many revs...

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Yep, thats a good thing I quess :)

Yes, it has been long road up to this point. Always empty wallet so havent got change to get one. I would like to get FD, but prices are already ridicilous here. FC has basically same engine, so there is potential tho. And this is opportunity that I cant miss...

Already chearching Ebay to get some stuff...

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: boosted on June 23, 2018, 08:29:02 PM
Dont matter rx 2 3 4 fb fc fd fe you is getting a Rotary, so happy for you!

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2018, 08:53:12 PM
Dont matter rx 2 3 4 fb fc fd fe you is getting a Rotary, so happy for you!

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True :) Guess how happy I am? ;)
Next step, find a desent body for my 12A engine...

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2018, 12:28:30 PM
So, again thinking/wondering about that FDs UIM is much better than FCs thing? What are advantages if using that? Do I need more parts like throttlebody? Should I consider to change that or is it pointless?

Also, I think Ill by Air/fuel ration gauge too. Recommendations?

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: boosted on June 24, 2018, 01:05:04 PM
The biggest thing with rotaries Jarno is if you mess with intake or exhaust, you more often than not gonna need a tune to put more fuel in else detonation and bye bye engine, so unless someone local can tune the ecu in the FC that you trust i would leave well alone mate. By having a chip in the ecu its already had a map for any mods that are fitted to the car, for a new to me car i would be concentrating on replenishing the filters, fuel and oil and quizzing owner what regime that had and whats due.


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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: RE5 on June 24, 2018, 02:58:08 PM
I agree, leave alone until you have had for a while......If stock, you will be pleasantly surprised by the smooth power delivery from low revs right through to the buzzer.   It is a nice car to drive especially for long distances....very comfortable....even has Cruise control.   I recently did a round trip of 800+ miles in 30 hrs (700 miles with hood down) & it was effortless & enjoyable, except having to keep filling up with fuel.
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2018, 03:18:08 PM
The biggest thing with rotaries Jarno is if you mess with intake or exhaust, you more often than not gonna need a tune to put more fuel in else detonation and bye bye engine, so unless someone local can tune the ecu in the FC that you trust i would leave well alone mate. By having a chip in the ecu its already had a map for any mods that are fitted to the car, for a new to me car i would be concentrating on replenishing the filters, fuel and oil and quizzing owner what regime that had and whats due.


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That is true. Actually, thats true with every car... It is completely stock, no cold air intakes, no exhaust mods. Only that chip...

But Im allready dreaming for more power...

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2018, 03:22:54 PM
I agree, leave alone until you have had for a while......If stock, you will be pleasantly surprised by the smooth power delivery from low revs right through to the buzzer.   It is a nice car to drive especially for long distances....very comfortable....even has Cruise control.   I recently did a round trip of 800+ miles in 30 hrs (700 miles with hood down) & it was effortless & enjoyable, except having to keep filling up with fuel.
Yes, I think so to. :) What I have heard, it really is amazing car to cruise around.

Im just dreaming for more power. :D I wont do any mods to it, until engine goes... ;) Just cathering info and ideas at this point...

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 26, 2018, 02:04:27 PM
Just got message that car has passed MoT without any problem. Only minus was that rear left muffler is going...

Only leak was from diff. Bolt seal was hardened/dry, and after short cruise,  it stopped...

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 28, 2018, 10:16:39 AM
Can some one please take some pics and share here, from Vert's rear of seats area? Roof up and down. I need to know how much there is space if I want to do 2+2 seats there...

Also, what kind of By Pass Valve is there? Any advantages to change to Dump Valve system ?

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: KevlarRx7 on June 28, 2018, 01:11:36 PM
No room at All.... Best picture I've got on my phone
https://ibb.co/dmnpjo
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 28, 2018, 02:29:31 PM
Bugger. So no 2+2 seat to the back then... Well, more room than MX-5 anyways I quess wife wont join us then, only me and daughter

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: boosted on June 28, 2018, 05:11:51 PM
Youll only get shouted by wife when you floor it, better off leaving at home ive found out after 10 yrs.

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: KevlarRx7 on June 28, 2018, 06:11:43 PM
You've always got space in the boot  :P
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 29, 2018, 04:04:53 AM
 lol thanks for advice guys  :great:

So, yesterday owner drove it from Kuusamo to Turku, about 870km. No problems at all. Except fuel consumption  :))

How can I wait few more days to get it?!?!?!  :sign0085: :13:
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: Casey on June 29, 2018, 09:47:50 AM
 :13: great news Jarno. Not long to wait now :)
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: clive on June 29, 2018, 01:40:37 PM
Pleased for you Jarno,

Fuel consumption wont be that bad, T11's are actually better on fuel than RX-8's (sorry RX-8 owners)
Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: boosted on June 29, 2018, 02:23:23 PM
I think my fds better than rx8,s...certainly on track.

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 29, 2018, 03:10:41 PM
:13: great news Jarno. Not long to wait now :)
TOO LONG!!!,

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Title: Re: FC T2 Convertible questions?
Post by: re japi on June 29, 2018, 03:13:17 PM
Pleased for you Jarno,

Fuel consumption wont be that bad, T11's are actually better on fuel than RX-8's (sorry RX-8 owners)
Yes, I was surpriced too. Its not too bad. He said that it went little over 10L per 100km...

Actually,  my Toyota Rav4 takes more than that, in those speeds...

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