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Cars by Model Type => 2nd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: Ricco_04 on October 22, 2005, 01:58:28 PM

Title: TII - Comments please
Post by: Ricco_04 on October 22, 2005, 01:58:28 PM
Hi everyone.

Hope its ok if I ask your advice on this TII on FleaBay :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mazda-RX7-Turbo-II-1990_W0QQitemZ4583132729QQcategoryZ18211QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

No one has bid on it yet with about 1 day left.  It does have high mileage and will need a rebuild.  The paintwork is in shocking condition - is this like the thread I read about where some people had paint just peel away, this is a little more extreme though!

I am after a project and would like to one day rebuild an engine (I know its not an easy job but its something I would like to do)

Please any comments and advice would b very much appreaciated.

Thank you,
Ricco.
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Post by: Brett on October 22, 2005, 02:43:45 PM
Hmm give it a good check for rust, bet you its got no floor!
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 22, 2005, 04:56:31 PM
Mmmmm that did cross my mind!  I was also reading the "rusty the clown" thread.  The floor rust on that has been repaired now I believe.  If the car did have major floor rust then this can be repaired with sheet metal & a welder?  But does it get to a point where its impossable to repair?  ie can you only patch up or can you basically redo the whole floor?

Agreed that engine requires a rebuild asap?

What are the TII\'s like with that sort of mileage (suspension bushes etc)

Cheers, Ricco.
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Post by: FD3SNuttah on October 22, 2005, 05:51:58 PM
The car i bought (rusty the clown thread) wasnt too bad i suppose, it just goes along the edges and its not too bad to fix, if you not handy with a welder it will cost you aroudn 300 quid to fix, and the job the guy did on mine is a very good one....

Take a screw driver with you and have a poke around where mine / bretts / stu\'s T2\'s have rusted (right along the sides next to the sills)  you will probably find some rust but just bear in mind that when you think you have a little 10p hole its very easy to make it into four very big piles of rust. you only have to cut out whats rotten. and nothing is impossible to repair as you can get replacement panels from the dealer / cut another RX up!
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 22, 2005, 06:06:50 PM
Ok, so the floor can be fixed! :D  (anything else to check?)

Im now quite tempted to get this (love the colour, well whats left of it! and it has the later spec stuff like the rear lights!)

Mmmm ok speak to Mr Dad for the car with the towbar and speak to neighbour for the tralor, Brother in law has a welder.  I have the rebuild dvd\'s and a stubborn nature to keep giving up and go back to it in the end!

oh and I keep this picture for inspiration :D . . . . .
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Post by: shortcircuit on October 22, 2005, 06:37:27 PM
the add says run on synthetic oil I thought rotarys only liked minneral?
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Post by: grinder on October 22, 2005, 07:13:01 PM
to be honest i wouldnt think a TII would make it too 120K on the same engine

i would be worried about the fully synth oil - they are only supposed to run on mineral

but if you can get it for 500 then its not bad at all

mine had 106K on the clock now - and its a bit twidgity on the road - but nothing too serious ( if you keep it below 130 !! LOL )

the paint could be an issue - check for rust - i know you read nas\'s thread about rust - have a search for "dis-heartened" - you can see how bad mine was !
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Post by: Grizzly on October 22, 2005, 07:14:27 PM
Its got the same problem as mine had, The paint comes off in big chunks.

120k is alot of miles. If i was you i\'d keep his e-mail and watch it untill it finishes. then offer him £350-400 (treat it like a car that wants both slls/Floor, back lower arches welding up and a Full metal repaint?)

It depends on if your are doing it the enthusiast way (spending more on it than its worth) or the Grinder way (spending on it less that what its worth so you don\'t loose money).
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Post by: grinder on October 22, 2005, 07:17:49 PM
hey im cheap ... :D , but you all love me for it :)
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Post by: Grizzly on October 22, 2005, 07:54:07 PM
You want to trade mark "The Grinder way!!" LOL ;)
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Post by: thebandit on October 23, 2005, 12:59:04 AM
I work for a trademark attorneys so thats no problem  :rollin

I was thinking of buying that whte TII to do a transmission swap on the EGi, but ive spent too much on women (as usual) this month so that wont be happening  :rolleyes:
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Post by: big_spin_flip on October 23, 2005, 02:35:58 PM
Hey Ricco, i\'ll give you some help when needed with the rebuild!! I wanna learn how to do it myself!! If you get it give me a call!!!!
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 23, 2005, 02:50:43 PM
Yes mate, deffinately!

I have arranged with my dad to pick it up!  So just see what happens!  Gonna be one of those long projects! but im getting ahead of myself now!
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Post by: grinder on October 23, 2005, 04:29:19 PM
4hrs to go and no bids yet ... :D
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Post by: Grizzly on October 23, 2005, 04:30:44 PM
OOOO its going to be a last second thing!!!!! LOL
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Post by: grinder on October 23, 2005, 04:32:42 PM
and knowing ebay - thats when a £500 bargain suddenly becomes £976 in the last 16 seconds :(
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Post by: Grizzly on October 23, 2005, 04:36:57 PM
LOL, how long before the Strut brace comes up? ;)

Have you atualy been to see this T2 in the flesh?
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Post by: grinder on October 23, 2005, 07:42:53 PM
so OK you beat me on the lower brace ... but i still got my top one for £15 :)

any news on the auction ??
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Post by: Brett on October 23, 2005, 08:30:54 PM
From my experience with 100K plus FC\'s, the following will need looking at and/or replacing :-

Shock absorbers front and rear.
There will be about 4 major bushes on the rear and 2 on the front (each side) that will be getting \'iffy\'.  (Not MOT failure iffy, but they do affect the handling when they get rough)
Passenger side window will be non functional or intermittant. (Lack of use issue)
Calipers will be seized without a doubt. (Usually 2 pistons on one half of the caliper start to stick)
Hand brake mechanism (another caliper issue) will need attention.
Head lamp reflectors may well be rusty if its been sat.
Hoses (water and pressure/vacuum) will be getting a bit tired.
Rust around the leading edge of the sunroof aperture.
Drains will be blocked aorund the rear hatch.
Drivers seat will most likely be pretty nasty too.
Boost guage will have a mind of its own.

 These are all the problems you MAY encounter, dont expect to have all of these faults, but DO expect to find some. :)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 23, 2005, 08:53:45 PM
Cheers Bret, these are all good points to consider.

Gonna go and check on it and see whats happening!
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Post by: Brett on October 23, 2005, 08:59:53 PM
Its just ended with no bids!
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 23, 2005, 09:03:18 PM
Excellant! :D

Going to phone him soon. Bearing in mind what could be wrong with it and I wont have even seen it (cause too far away to go for it) what do you think I should offer for it?
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Post by: Brett on October 23, 2005, 09:06:10 PM
Without knowing anything about the engines history its hard to say.  If its the orgional engine then I\'d say that £500 is pretty much on the money given the sate of the paint I would\'nt pay more than £650, a full respray wont leave you much change from £1500.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 23, 2005, 09:36:17 PM
Thanks Bret.

I really wasnt sure.  If all goes to plan then I want all new shocks anyway.  Bushes I can do.  And engine will probably be rebuilt without even attempting to drive it far!  (as im sure some bits can still be reused)

Ok, phone him tomorrow then!  I hope I get it!
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Post by: vz-r_dave on October 26, 2005, 08:52:16 AM
how did it go mate?

if you didnt manage to pick it up i have a white T2 that i might be selling. However its in 10 times better condition then then the one on ebay and runs sweet. So Im looking for atleast 1500. Let me know if you\'d be interested. Dave
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 26, 2005, 08:54:34 PM
Ok, I have spoken to the chap on the phonea couple of times.  He sounds reasonable and im AT LEAST 80% sure im going to buy her.  Unfortunately my folks have all of a sudden decided that they dont want a "half built, tatty piece of junk on the drive"  :reallymad  :reallymad  :reallymad   Which is completly out of the blue as I have tried several times to get a nice project.

Anyway, as I have tried several times before I still have a backup.  My sister says I can use her garage if I get it cleared out and my Dad still will tow the car and tralor for me if I can get the other garage.  Just cant get hold of my sister! :p

vz-r_dave - you are a bit closer to me etc etc but I have neally done the deal with this chap and I am not the sort to let people down (hope none of my mates read that :p )  However, If it does al fall through then Ill give you a message.

Fingers crossed - another TII will hopefully live on!  :D
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Post by: Kron on October 26, 2005, 09:29:41 PM
Did you end up offering a lower price?
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Post by: FD3SNuttah on October 26, 2005, 10:16:09 PM
yeh i knew i would have the same problem, so one day my new project turns up outta the blue!! loL my parents flipped but when i told them that it would keep me at home more and outta trouble they kinda relaxed, but then they stopped having visitors round our house cos of the ****ter on the drive! LOL no fetching the bloody tea for a while eh!!!


good luck with this car mate, i hope it works out, another FC that lives can olny be a good thing especially a T2!
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 26, 2005, 11:47:53 PM
Thank you all for the positive comments.  I am going to give him his asking price.  The car still runs but has low compression.  It used to belong to Mazda for the first few years of its life and has had an oil change done (as far as the current owner tells me) every 2,000ish miles by himself.  He assures me all the wheels still turn (ie no stuck brakes).  He also changed all the hoses about 4 years ago as they where showing their age (standard parts)

He took the car out for a drive a few months back (and several times before)  to make sure everything still turns.  He even has ALL the receipts from when Mazda owned it!  Cracking chap, I was on the phone to him for well over half an hour to him tonight!  He used to race and prep his own bikes and work a lot on the Lotus he used to have (like quite in depth engine work)  so he is very capeable and has good knowedge.

Oh course this is just all what he says and I shall find out for sure when I see it very soon!  But I really have no reason not to trust him and I am happy with the price I will be paying.

Im getting excited!  :D
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Post by: TRex on October 26, 2005, 11:53:20 PM
My 2 cents..

 Never buy a 2nd gen without first seeing it yourself and checking it over!

 There is a lot of sh1t out there and most not worth the gamble!

 Goodluck
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Post by: grinder on October 27, 2005, 08:39:18 PM
i paid £400 for one with a blown engine - so at £500 it could be OK - worse case - break it for spares and get some £££ for a good one

with all the FC vultures around here its not a big problem :D

keep us all posted though .. would be nice to see another TII live to fight another day
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 27, 2005, 09:25:26 PM
TRex, I do agree! But unfortunately I must have it  :rollin :D   It\'s deffinately a risk but if it does all go pear shaped then it\'s an expearience.  I can, as Stu says, still break it for parts and recoup SOME of the cost but im not kidding myself that this would make much back.

That probably sounds a bit negative! I can still go there ready to pick her up but if im not happy then I can still leave it.

Just dying to get my teeth into a project!  :evillaugh
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Post by: FD3SNuttah on October 27, 2005, 11:35:19 PM
i paid 700 for mine and had to do 300 quid worth of welding so thats a grand already... i got all the parts i needed for roughly a 100 pounds and now i just need to get it sprayed up. im doing the body work myself and its a long and hard work but should not cost too much as im planning on stripping it and fully preparing it,

if you buy it mate you will qualify / be able to join in the 100 mph terminal comp?
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Post by: grinder on October 28, 2005, 10:01:35 AM
Quote from: Ricco_04
TRex, I do agree! But unfortunately I must have it  :rollin :D   It\'s deffinately a risk but if it does all go pear shaped then it\'s an expearience.  I can, as Stu says, still break it for parts and recoup SOME of the cost but im not kidding myself that this would make much back.

That probably sounds a bit negative! I can still go there ready to pick her up but if im not happy then I can still leave it.

Just dying to get my teeth into a project!  :evillaugh



i reckon we made about 1000 - 1400 when we broke the TII - so you SHOULD break even no probs - thats not the point - you have to get it running again :)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 28, 2005, 05:19:53 PM
Deffinately!  She needs to live :D

I did start to read the 100mph terminal speed thread when it first got posted - ill have to have another look and see how it has all progressed.

I usually just click on new posts and read whatever looks interesting or a laugh (havn\'t had a chance to check out todays Hoff Friday yet! :p )  But lately I have been spending a lot of time in the 2nd gen section for some reason :D :D :D
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Post by: Brett on October 28, 2005, 05:43:27 PM
FC\'s rule :god
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Post by: t2rew on October 28, 2005, 08:29:49 PM
Quote from: TRex
My 2 cents..

 There is a lot of sh1t out there and most not worth the gamble!

 Goodluck

there not all like your one. there are still some good ones about and whats £500. pocket money :cool
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Post by: TRex on October 28, 2005, 11:01:47 PM
Oh it\'s not your car that your selling to Ricco then...
 I was under the impression that it was yours selling as he did mention the car was barely a runner and near scrap!
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Post by: thebandit on October 29, 2005, 12:03:14 PM
Getting a bit bitchy on here this morning boys  :rollin

Anyway back to ripping my old exhaust off the car ready to "build " my new one
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 17, 2005, 01:23:51 PM
Seems ages ago now but if everything goes well then she should be sat in the garage on Sunday!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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Post by: Brett on November 17, 2005, 05:59:17 PM
Nice one :)  Take it you managed to talk the car storage depot around then! ;)
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Post by: tr1cky on November 17, 2005, 05:59:21 PM
Good stuff, happy for you!

Please post up some pics so we can see what a bargain you got!?

Currently looking for a Gen2 myself and first read of the thread- some good advice again fella\'s!! ;)

Rich
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 17, 2005, 06:09:04 PM
Well as soon as it\'s at the garage then I will get some photo\'s and put them here :cool   I am using my sisters garage now - god its a right mess!  I have got to refelt the roof as its leeking and clear out the inside - it\'s horrible!!!  There\'s all kinds of mold, insects, bad smells - and a double matress!!!!  :eek

Got about 8-9 hours driving!  Not a problem - I have managed to borrow a Diesel Discovery from work (very nice of them) so only need the fuel bill for that & the trailer!  :cool

Im pretty much going from Worcester to Brands Hatch and back again and I shall be waving at all RX\'s I see :D  :cool
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 19, 2005, 01:57:30 PM
All set to leave first thing tomorrow - about 400 miles in total!  :D

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCF0250.jpg)

On closer inspection I shall make the journey pretty quick - looks like it has Nitrous!  :rollin

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCF0251.jpg)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 21, 2005, 03:12:04 PM
Woo Hoo! I got it  :D

Pictures soon as it would be rude not to!  :D  :D  :D
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Post by: FD3SNuttah on November 23, 2005, 02:16:55 AM
bump for the pics!!
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Post by: grinder on November 23, 2005, 11:06:24 AM
we need pics :D NOW NOW NOW :D :D :D
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Post by: prisspringle on November 23, 2005, 01:28:39 PM
*looks at watch*

chris
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Post by: grinder on November 23, 2005, 02:04:19 PM
* taps watch to see if it still works , then holds it to ear *
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 23, 2005, 02:30:34 PM
LMAO - You guys  :D

Sorry on the picture front, It\'s always dark when I go to work and dark when I get back!  I\'ll Try and see if they come out tonight and post them up!  :wave

It looks a bit shocking cause some of the paint has stripped off (but the primer is still on so not a lot of rust)  Oh and the floor does need doing!  :eek
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Post by: thebandit on November 23, 2005, 02:34:59 PM
Take the picture in the dark makes the paint look better ;)

Yeah and hurry I wanna see too!! should get some pics of mine up but shes looking a bit sad sat on my drive with bumpers off, sideskirts off, monster truck ride height and nasty egi rims  :eek:
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Post by: prisspringle on November 23, 2005, 02:36:31 PM
^^ what he said^^
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 23, 2005, 02:46:43 PM
Ah, cheers guys.  I have just remembered I took some on my phone so I can post some of them up and I\'ll also try and do it in the dark!!!!  :spank
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 23, 2005, 06:51:37 PM
Ok as promised, some photos - remember, it\'s a project!!!! Oh, and it\'s in despirate need of a clean :D

One from the front :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/Picture0499.jpg)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 23, 2005, 06:52:35 PM
One from the side :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/Picture0500.jpg)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 23, 2005, 06:53:22 PM
And tonight\'s taken with a proper camera:

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCF0274.jpg)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 23, 2005, 06:54:28 PM
Is this the rare front lip/splitter??

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCF0275.jpg)
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Post by: grinder on November 23, 2005, 07:06:15 PM
its got the front splitter - GIT GIT GIT GIT GIT GIT GIT

nice purcahse matey !

any engine shots ?
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Post by: prisspringle on November 23, 2005, 07:35:27 PM
wots made the paint come off the bonnet, or is it just old paint? seems quite a few seem have this problem :S

chris

**wants to do turbo engine swap**
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Post by: gmogle on November 23, 2005, 07:50:33 PM
I must say I always prefer the 3rd Gen shape as it is soooo sexy even today.

However the more I see 2nd gens the more I like them.
Your white one looks ace, even with the paint issues.

Look forward to hearing more on this project.

Gareth
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 23, 2005, 08:54:43 PM
If im honest then I do like the FD shape better but I have one of them - im so lucky - it\'s a good job I dont have a life!!  :rollin

Thank you for the kind comments - and thank you grinder for confirming the splitter!!! What a git I am :D:D:D

I read on hear that there are paint issues with white TII\'s (and some others)  The primer is still on so just the paint has just come away so no rust.  The primer is so smooth so the paint has very little to grip hold of so when a stone chip (or whatever) starts the flake, the rest will follow.
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Post by: prisspringle on November 23, 2005, 09:01:03 PM
i thought it was something simple like that, it is a bit odd that it only seems to effect white, still a v. nice buy. i\'m sure you\'ll have plenty of fun in this, and your just lucky to have both :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 24, 2005, 02:59:46 PM
Ooh, as for the engine bay shots, i\'ll try over the weekend.  It\'s thick with all kinds of rubbish so that needs a bit of a clean!  :wiggle
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Post by: thebandit on November 24, 2005, 03:21:02 PM
Looks good! A good project you got there, looking forward to seeing it progress! I got some photos whnen i picked up my Egi somewhere (It was a right shed but i had access to a turboII for free parts as it was being broke/crushed at the time - so i raped that for vital parts - i filled my mums garage :D) its nice to get photos as you go along to see your progress :)

Ill get some photos of the work i have planned for this weekend!  :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 24, 2005, 07:52:20 PM
Yes mate, get those photo\'s up, would very much like to see them.  :yes
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 29, 2005, 01:40:31 PM
Ok, not much happened since.  Washed her and she came up good.  Tried a bit of t-cut type stuff and flippin heck, what a difference  :)  (yeah, i know it\'s a cutting compound and all but there is not much paint on there anyway!  :rollin  )

Gonna give the bodywork rust a bit of a hammering over the weekend and then its out with the front interior to attack the floor!  :evillaugh

Just a quick question though.  I was asked why it\'s called a Turbo II, dont laugh but this is my response.....(was I even near!!!  :spank )

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It\'s just the name of the car : Mazda RX-7 Turbo II (FC). It\'s also just under the front side repeater.

Ok so doesn\'t properly answer your question so......

Mazda made 3 generations of the RX-7 (known as FB, FC & FD - from the chassis number) FC being the 2\'nd one - just a guess though!
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Post by: vz-r_dave on November 29, 2005, 02:05:31 PM
ive got a white one mate and when i bought it the paint was very dull. body work and eveything in good nick etc. Used t cut and it makes such a difference. Good luck with the floor
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Post by: grinder on November 29, 2005, 03:12:37 PM
my guess would be that that did a turbo version from 86-88 , then another one from 89 - 91 hence Turbo II ( and tha fact it has a twin scroll turbo ? )
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Post by: Brett on November 29, 2005, 06:39:23 PM
Grinder wins the prize!  :wave

The S4 Rx7 with the twin scroll was just called the Turbo (86-88)
The S5 Rx7 with the turbo changed to a more tradtional setup was the Tubo II (89-91)
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Post by: TRex on November 29, 2005, 07:46:05 PM
WRONG, he wins nothing!

 The Turbo 2 is the 2nd Generation RX7 Turbo models... ALL.....

 1986-1988 Series 4 had both EGI\'s and Turbo 2\'s
 1988-1992 Series 5 had both EGI\'s and Turbo 2\'s.
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Post by: grinder on November 29, 2005, 08:08:37 PM
they had the TURBO in the states didnt they ??
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Post by: Brett on November 29, 2005, 08:31:04 PM
How much do you want to stake on this DOm? :D
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Post by: grinder on November 29, 2005, 08:55:35 PM
i thought the S5 was the twin scroll ???
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Post by: Brett on November 29, 2005, 09:00:20 PM
Nope, only the earlier ones had the twin scroll with the moving vane inside.  Your cab is an S4 mate!
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Post by: grinder on November 29, 2005, 10:59:13 PM
Quote from: Brett
Nope, only the earlier ones had the twin scroll with the moving vane inside.  Your cab is an S4 mate!


yeah i know ?!?!??! :D
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Post by: Brett on November 29, 2005, 11:08:28 PM
Then stop asking silly questions!!! :rollin

S4 180bhp (185?)
S5 200bhp (215bhp special edition)
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Post by: Grizzly on November 29, 2005, 11:25:25 PM
Yes Andy!!
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Post by: TRex on November 29, 2005, 11:34:58 PM
Quote from: Brett
How much do you want to stake on this DOm? :D


 I am not a gambling man Brett...   Won\'t say something without backing it..  ;)
 
The UK had 2 models of the 2nd Gen... 86-88 was the EGI - none turbo only!
 88-92 was a Turbo 2 - Turbo only.

 Everywhere else in the world had both Turbo models throughout the 2 gen series from 1986 -1992.  
 These were called the Turbo 2\'s naturally.......

 You want more proof...  Compressor(on here) had a 1986 2 Gen.. and guess what,,,,, it was badged a Turbo 2...  (this was not in the UK but was a normal right hand drive)

 I may be wrong, but was John\'s (88GTR) original car not also a series 4 - T2?


 
 Shame this basic info is not on this Rotary forum....
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Post by: Grizzly on November 29, 2005, 11:46:39 PM
Trex is kind of right, All Rx7 Turbo\'s where badged up Turbo 2\'s i\'m not 100% why, i\'m guessing its becouse its a Second gen?????? But i know where there is a Genuine 87 Turbo with Turbo 2 writen on it.

I know the US didn\'t have Turbo Verts. I know this becouse i enjoy winding them up about it. LOL

The scroll thing has nothing to do with it, The main Diffrences between S4 and S5 are the engines Comp is lower in the S4 but it has less meat around the dowl pins on the rear plate. Then of course theres the attempt to make it spool up quicker with the twin Scroll of the S4 which was binned in the S5 (that used a Divided manifold) the S4 also had one wastegate so it suffered from spike more then the S5 which had two wastegate\'s.
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Post by: TRex on November 30, 2005, 12:05:06 AM
No, Trex is right...  :p

 This is how I understand it is..
 The 1st Gen had a Turbo model exculsive to Japland that was called Turbo.

 So when the 2nd Gen came along with Turbo and Non.. The Turbo ones were then called Turbo 2.

 Simple really....

 
 Discuss, cause I am going to quickly \'Win\' on another Thread and then go to bed.. nite nite.....  ;)
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Post by: Brett on November 30, 2005, 12:58:19 AM
Ah, but there was a version of the FC called the turbo, the Turbo II did not ocme until later on :yes
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Post by: TRex on November 30, 2005, 10:27:21 AM
You obviously have not read anything that I posted...  :rolleyes:

 Simple. the Turbo 2 models was the 2nd Gen and was manufactured from 1986 - 1992.

 Turbo 1 or 1st Turbo was a model in Japan that was a 1st Gen RX7.  \'not a 2nd Gen\'

 
 Grinder sort him out!  :spank
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 30, 2005, 05:03:02 PM
So it\'s a good question then?!  :rollin
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Post by: Brett on November 30, 2005, 06:12:01 PM
:D The origional FC Turbo was called a GTU (GTR?) and not a Turbo II, the Turbo II was not available until after 88, and there was no turbo model available over here until 89 IIRC.

 Discuss ;)
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Post by: grinder on November 30, 2005, 06:31:16 PM
.... and so it begins ......
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Post by: Grizzly on November 30, 2005, 06:43:08 PM
O man !!!!

Is this in the UK or from all the cars produced?

I had a good look at old sales info today and the only Second gen Turbo that didn\'t have Turbo 2 on it somwhere was the S4 Vert Turbo. I don\'t exactly know why but there you have it.

Trex is looking correct, the second gen turbo was the Turbo 2 the first gen Turbo (in Japan only) was the Turbo 1. Just goes a bit vauge at the Third gen.
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Post by: Brett on November 30, 2005, 07:15:58 PM
I\'m going from the all cars perspective (FC type)
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Post by: TRex on November 30, 2005, 09:22:33 PM
FFS........  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Brett on November 30, 2005, 10:57:50 PM
What?  Even if I\'m wrong I\'m not going to conceed!!!! :rollin
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Post by: TRex on November 30, 2005, 11:07:58 PM
...........
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Post by: Brett on November 30, 2005, 11:12:37 PM
I still win on technical grounds, as the S4 Cab was not designated a turbo II, also the early FC turbos were not badged as TII\'s on the intercoolers, they said \'13B Intercooler\' or summat whereas the TII\'s say \'13 intercooled Turbo II\'  :D

 Dulce et decorum est pro dem \'Ownage 101\' mori :rollin
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Post by: Ricco_04 on December 04, 2005, 04:19:32 PM
Been doing a bit of work on her today :



Im knackered now!!   :D
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Post by: Brett on December 04, 2005, 05:02:52 PM
Someones had a busy day!!! :D
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Post by: grinder on December 04, 2005, 06:19:05 PM
remove fan cover - thats a job by itself to be honest

i can remember taking the battery tray out of mine - managed to snap all the bolts holding it down :(

so much room when you remove the tray , fan and surround !!
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Post by: Ricco_04 on December 04, 2005, 10:50:19 PM
Almost room for a 26b  :3gears-rh

Yeah it did look simple at first, but when it wouldn\'t come out i just thought sod it, the radiator has to come out too, so I did them both in one go!  :D

Now im going to sound very silly but I came across a poser.  I was trying to take the rear spoiler off.  Undid the 2 screw\'s that have a little weather cover above, the 2 nuts in the middleish, the t caps you just turn off but it wouldnt come free!!  :confused:

Had a look in the big book and thats all that is listed!  But on mine there are another 2 fastenings.  The one on the right rear corner was wasted anyway and just wasn\'t doing anything, but the other one I have no idea how to make it let go! I even got my hand up inside but could not find a nut to undoo??  :confused:   Any ideas?   :confused:
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Post by: Brett on December 04, 2005, 11:49:35 PM
I tried once befor to get the spoiler off of my EGI, its a mare :(  I gave up becasue it was too much of a fiddle.  If you remove the rear panels inside the boot you should be abloe to get a torch in there and see whats what.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on December 14, 2005, 02:17:54 PM
Cheers for that Brett - Ill have another go next year!!  :Laugh

Concentrating on getting the engine out at the moment.  Havn\'t managed to do much work on her since but have removed :

The fan itself
Intercooler
about 8 pipes
and 2 belts

Hoping to get stuck in on the weekend and remove the alternator, airpump, remaining belt and see what im left with  :2Rolleyes  (oh then I gotta start my x-mas shopping  :chat )
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Post by: grinder on December 14, 2005, 04:48:00 PM
taking the engine out ??? have i missed something here ?
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Post by: Ricco_04 on December 14, 2005, 06:00:05 PM
The car has virtually 116,000 miles on the engine which has never been rebuilt and has been run on fully synthetic oil for the past 11 years. So I was going to take it out before it damages any housings (hoping they\'re not too worn already) and TRY to rebuild it myself.

The engine will only start if cranked for about 3-4 seconds with full throttle to cut fuel supply.  Im assuming this is low compression.  Plus with 15 years and all those miles I would like to get the bay cleaned up a lot!  :bandit

And with the porting DVD out soon it could be too tempting  :Laugh
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Post by: Brett on December 14, 2005, 06:58:41 PM
Sounds like you\'re going to have a busy xmas break then :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on December 15, 2005, 01:48:03 PM
I hope so!  :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 02, 2006, 12:00:26 PM
Thought I would stick up a couple of bad quality photo\'s!

This is what she looks like at the moment.  Nothing major has been done yet.  Too cold and wet so just concentrating on moving the engine bay to the boot!  ;)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/Picture0528.jpg)

Went out yesterday with a plan!  I wanted to get the front on axle stands, get the undertray off and undo the gearbox. Which I didnt do!   :Hammer

My axle stands are actually ones that they use to hold challets (sp?) up so are a little bit taller so try as I may I just couldnt jack the car up enough to get them under. I even tried putting \'items\' in the jack to give it a bit of lift, but nothing was suitable.  :3Confused

So while the car was up in the air I had the front right off and gave the arch a damm good going over to get all the spiders and cobwebs out  :eek:  Gave the disc a re-condition and cleaned up the wheel. Also thinking braded hoses to be a good idea :)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/Picture0560.jpg)

Into town today then to get some smaller axle stands (if anywhere is open!  :King )
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Post by: grinder on January 02, 2006, 12:25:46 PM
move the engine bay into the boot ??

what are you trying to do matey ?!?!?!
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 02, 2006, 02:23:49 PM
LMAO!!! Ah, that\'s quality! I can\'t tell you that im doing a double engine monster!!  20b in back and 13b upfront to make it 4 wheel drive!

Sorry, it\'s just the best place to store all the bit\'s I have taken off!  I\'m off to the shops to get my stands now.  Gonna strip the bonnet of paint and primer and then seal it for when I get my paint!  Then its the sunroof and both wings!
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Post by: grinder on January 02, 2006, 07:09:39 PM
ahhh i thought you was MOVING stuff into there - like the battery and such like DOH !!! :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 02, 2006, 08:16:24 PM
Lol!  :cool

One day, maybe.  The project is very much to teach me more at the moment.  Just want to do a good as job as I can and then bring on the mods!  :cool

Oh well.  Got a bargain.  Went to Halfrauds to get some axle stands £33.98 for 4.  Will be the most I have spent on the car since I got it.  "ok sir thats £19.99"

Woo Hoo!!!!!!! She called me Sir!  :Hammer
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 28, 2006, 06:31:10 PM
Been ages since I did any work on the car.  Removed only a couple of things - damm exhaust bolts must be welded on  :rolleyes:  even after I removed the skin off most of my knuckles  :2Mad

Anyway I was gonna remove this section as it \'looks\' as if it can come away in one piece.  Is this so?  I have removed 3 bolts but can\'t find anymore but the think is firmly stuck on!  Does this come away as one and if so what am I missing!

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/Picture0584.jpg)

You can also see another good reason to get the whole of the bay removed - some of that caked on oil is really thick! lol

Thank you, Ricco.
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Post by: grinder on January 28, 2006, 07:44:48 PM
what exahust bolts are you stuck with ??

mine were stuck solid where the down pipe meet the main exhaust - had to remove the whole system then drill them out

look for my decat thread - and you will see the pics :D

and no idea about the pic - looks like the power steering mount ?
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Post by: Brett on January 28, 2006, 10:55:05 PM
Yeah, that comes away as one peice, 2 bolts and 2 studs with nuts IIRC, then you can get at the ac compressor.
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Post by: alban1973 on January 29, 2006, 12:22:05 PM
I have just removed my engine, I had a little head scratching moment here as well. I am just trying to remember the issue I had, I think the a/c commpressor is also bolted to it, 4 bolts, I removed the pwr steering pump with the pipes all still connected just to make more space to see what was going on down there  and tied it to the inner wing, you will have to watch the hose that is bolted to the inner wing, remove the 3 bolts by the pulley, pulley just pulls off, and there is one bolt underneath pointing to the front of the car, then when trying to remove it you will find the high pressure hose from the a/c comp is stopping it, If you do not have any gas in the system take it off, I just tweeked it a little to make room as it is all gassed up. once all that is gone it is easy peasy.  my worse part was trying to get the wiring loom extracted as it was so brittal, I had to remove all the manifolds egr pipes etc.   good luck.
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Post by: alban1973 on January 29, 2006, 12:43:20 PM
I\'ve just had a look for you,  If you want to leave the pwr steering pump on, take all the pipes off first then, take the four bolts from the compressor out which bolt into that housing, all the studs and bolts for that housing are behind the compressor, Just not sure what space you will have with the pwr steering pump still on, cannot take photos of that housing off the engine at the moment as my main PC has blown up. let us know how you get on..
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 29, 2006, 01:31:51 PM
Ah, cheers guys, I shall give it a go.  Thank you for the info and detail.  It should free up quite a bit of space and make me feel better as I really wanna get stuck in!  I already have a shopping list a half page long  :King

Grinder : Yes it is the downpipe AND all the others :rollin   I do want to remove the entire system anyway and replace with something about as restrictive as farting in a barn :spank

:wave
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Post by: grinder on January 29, 2006, 07:47:43 PM
ha ha the exhaust is a nightmare - i have worked on two now - and its a pain - although i can get a full system off a car now in about 30 mins :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 29, 2006, 07:51:50 PM
Looks like im gonna buy your train fare and a beer to remove it then!  :Giggle

Was out with it about an hour ago - yeah, moved the frost to one side!  Got the trusty torque wrench on it and one of my new sockets (treated myself today to a shiny new 100 piece set  :) )  I\'ll just say that I ended up pulling my sholder muscles  :Grrr   :rollin

It would probably help if my arms wern\'t the size of tooth picks!  :rolleyes:
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Post by: FD3SNuttah on January 29, 2006, 10:28:49 PM
well at least your further than me!

i know exactly what you mean with the cold / not enough time. I have booked a couple of weeks off next month to do the job! i have got myself a compressor with the air tools so it makes snapping bolts easier when i take the  engines out! lol :)

little tip for ya now! i was lucky with my exhaust i removed the bolts by sticking a scaffolding pole on the end of the spanner and shouting "ave it!!!" and hey presto for once they came off with out snapping! ive never been so proud of myself lol.
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Post by: grinder on January 29, 2006, 10:50:19 PM
remove the 3 at the turbo end - then just take the whole lot off - then drill out the studs and replace with nuts and bolts

SIMPLE :D
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Post by: Brett on January 29, 2006, 11:05:29 PM
I never had any probs getting my down pipe off?  Yes they were tight, but not so tight that I had to snap anything, or replace the studs with new nuts and bolts.

 BTW I can recommend the SSAUTOCHROME 3" system, I got one for £280 delivered :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 29, 2006, 11:17:12 PM
:rollin

Im doing it slow but more important im enjoying it!  :)   The car seems to be saying ave it more to me at the moment!  :Giggle  

I think the downpipe is in good order and the back boxes will have a short life left so best take it off in one go - now, where is that special tool, ah yes here\'s my chainsaw  :evillaugh

Bret :  Is that the downpipe, midpipe and back box???? £280 is a flippin brilliant price!  :cool
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Post by: FD3SNuttah on January 30, 2006, 09:59:33 AM
yeh i bought the ss chrome cat back and its a good exhaust, you can buy a chrome standard twin tail pipe on ebay for 330- they didnt export the twin when me and brett ordered our ( i have the same sschrome) exhaust.
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Post by: Brett on January 30, 2006, 08:02:12 PM
Yep, the whole shebang, Downpipe, Cat replacement pipe, mid pipe and back box.
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Post by: big_spin_flip on February 10, 2006, 02:47:39 PM
Hey ric - how much further have you got on project TII??

Hopefully once february is out of the way i\'ll have some more time to come and have a look and help you!

Might need some help with my turbo problem anyway!
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Post by: Ricco_04 on February 10, 2006, 05:06:36 PM
Cheers bud  :wave

It\'s coming along - very slowly!  I am in no rush and being a complete amateur I would expect no less! :D  Gearbox, exhaust and engine will come out next time I brave the cold for long enough and then I can tidy up the bay nicely.

I read on here someone saying that these FC\'s are much easier to work on than the FD they said it took them around 3 hours to take the engine out of the FD and less that for the FC - makes me feel slower than a slug going up a vertical wall! :rollin

If I can be of any help then most deffinately bring her on down to Ricco\'s Autos!  ;)   I have more tools now!  :Thumbsup! but will take 3 hours to remove induction  :King
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 15, 2006, 09:50:36 PM
Engine is still in im afraid (im pretty useless at this)  Although I have removed all the aircon, the oil cooler, most of the oil cooler pipes, all the ducting, header tank, and most of the engine wiring loom.  which brings me to my question(s)

How does the engine wiring loom come away from around the oil filler neck (and under some of the nest)?

How does this piece come off?? :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/Picture0708.jpg)

I have undone the screw underneath, the 2 in the arch and the piece half way up popped out.  It slides left and right but wont seem to come away?
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Post by: Grizzly on April 15, 2006, 11:56:16 PM
Unplug it from the ECU and pull the loom through the bulk head. Just be a little Gental with it so you don\'t damage anything.
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Post by: alban1973 on April 16, 2006, 09:03:08 AM
If you undo the inner wing panel, there are 3 plastic trim clips that run along the line of the rubbing strip just under your T11 sticker, it may also have been glued on like mine was, you can pop the clips out from inside the wing if you are careful.   I think there is one further down as well, but you will see when you move the inner panel
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 16, 2006, 01:24:23 PM
Thanks for those chaps,  the wiring loom - so simple when you know how, im gonna have a go in the next few moments :)

The side trim, I was thinking they where the clip\'s that just popped out once it slid over a few mill, good job I didnt force that too!  :Hammer   I will have a go at the bodywork after,  I just want to remove the nose and front wings for now.

Thanks again  :wave
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Post by: Grizzly on April 16, 2006, 01:51:49 PM
If you want a Tip getting the loom through, Get as much as you can out the way (usaly means unbolting the ABS and gentaly moving it with the pipes still atached, you can do this quite easly as long as you dont drag it about too much)  have a second person pulling the loom as you push it through the bulk head. Like any job on these cars do it gental and slowly!!! and make sure none of the plugs get stuck (or you\'ll damage wires)
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Post by: FD3SNuttah on April 16, 2006, 02:11:57 PM
theres another plug you cant see!!! DONT BE YANKING ON THIS WIRE BRO!!!! lol

its a yellow emission harness plug and doesnt go to the ecu its in the side of the footwell and you have to stick your hand up there and its a PITA to get off. i didnt bother unbolting the abs you can get it through there but only just!

that side moulding should come off with a good tug!
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 16, 2006, 02:15:56 PM
Good job i\'m a lazy ass and still here  :rollin

Thanks again, this time I am going outside to do some work!!!  :Giggle
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 25, 2006, 08:03:59 PM
I\'ll just keep this simple.  Would like to thank all of you for your help so far  :Thumbs-up  :Thumbs-up  :Thumbs-up

The car now looks like this (sorry for the bad picture)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/Picture0778.jpg)
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Post by: FD3SNuttah on April 26, 2006, 09:03:21 AM
good good mate. thats the easy bit now done lol!
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 27, 2006, 12:45:03 PM
Yeah, I hope so!  :Giggle

That picture looks a little manky so I cleaned it (and took a little bit more stuff out :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/Picture0794.jpg)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on May 10, 2006, 06:56:37 PM
After your help again  :(

I cant for the life of me remove the pully nut, have tried several ways but the damm thing just wont budge.  I watched the rebuild dvd again just to see which way he tightens it and it is a normal thread.

Has anyone had problems with removing this bolt before?  I\'ts been in this stage for over a week now  :(

I have tried a breaker bar, impact driver and the thing has been soaked in oil for a few days too.  Any suggestions would be greatfully apreaciated.  :cool

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCF0476.jpg)
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Post by: Grizzly on May 10, 2006, 07:05:14 PM
I presume you mean the main Pulley Bolt in the end of the E-Shaft?

If so its Liquid locked so it will need to be warmed up if your struggling. If your Rebuilding it anyway it won\'t matter about the Ft oil seal as it will be replaced. So get as much heat as you can on it and it will come off real easy :) (If i remember correctly the Ft bolt is torqued up to less than the Flywheel nut)

Try to keep the heat on the Bolt its self and if you get it hot enough the Liquid lock will fail.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on May 11, 2006, 01:59:15 PM
Thanks for that.  :Thumbs-up

Yup, im going to be rebuilding it.  I did try using heat with one of the old boys blow torch\'s but the flame was that c**p i think it was just annoying the bolt!  :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on May 13, 2006, 09:54:37 AM
Mmmmm something is deffinately not right, still cant remove the bolt.

Tried : Breaker bar, Impact driver with big hammer, heat, lots of oil, swearing at it and looking at it in discust (which i\'m surprised didnt work!! :D)

So all I have done since is remove the gearbox, so I can at least get that all cleaned and inspected.

Ah well, Im off to Shelsley Walsh today, taking my grandad there for his 88th birthday  :cheers   (he keeps asking to go in one of those 2 seater F1 cars!  :Giggle )
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Post by: Ricco_04 on May 15, 2006, 12:27:44 AM
Cool day at Shelsley Walsh - even managed to not get soaked!  :Giggle

Managed to get that bolt out today, HORAY!! (thanks Grizzy   :cheers )  world have helped if they hadnt used blue thread lock on it  :rolleyes:   The rebuild dvd just shows him putting vasalene on it!  :2Rolleyes

So as soon as it was out, off down to the pub to celebrate!  :guinness  (no wonder I never seem to get anything done!  :Giggle )
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Post by: antnicuk on September 17, 2006, 03:58:14 PM
Bump Bump.........

how are you getting on?
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Post by: Ricco_04 on September 17, 2006, 04:31:58 PM
Chrikey - has it really been May since I last posted on this! :2eek :2Confused   How time fly\'s!

As an update from the last picture - the engine bay has lost a good load of the items that where still in there.  From the top of my head

master cylinder\'s
brake lines
engine mounts
gearbox
headlights
both washer fluid tanks
and an assortment of other things - mmmm where does it all go :rolleyes:

Mostly these past few months I have been concentrating on rust removal.  It\'s amazing where the rust appears, where you expect and where you dont.  Like where they cover the panels with that silicone stuff - well underneath that! lol  So I have been taking the rust back to lovely shiney metal and then painting up myself - I have improved so much :D  Although when it\'s all ready then the car will go in for a complete respray.

Also taken the rust off the wing\'s, bumper support\'s and repairing the splitter with fiberglass.  Also starter repairing the dent in the passanger side wing - dent taken out reasonably well and a layer of filler has been applied - just waiting on some stainless steel fittings to attach it to the car and begin sanding that down.

I have a nice assortment of parts that I would like to get shot blasted and then powder coated to get rid of more rust, stopping it happening again and cause it looks so damm good :D

Engine is still on the floor in the garage waiting for winter to come when I will take it apart and do the necessary - although I have been looking at that ebay link with a 3rotor 12A engine for sale :rolleyes:

Anyway I shall stop my rambling cause I could drone all day :Hammer

I have cleaned and stripped of rust under this arch and applied 2 layers of underseal - think it looks ok?

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC00812.jpg)

This is the best shot I seem to have of the bay, have to get a better one! but at least you can see here what I have been doing regards to removing rust and repainting :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC00755.jpg)

Car now looks like this from the front :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC00811.jpg)

Thanks for the interest :wave
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Post by: grinder on September 17, 2006, 05:46:57 PM
looknig good matey - wish i had the time and space to do that :D
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Post by: prisspringle on September 17, 2006, 05:55:47 PM
looks good bud and i thought my engine bay looks clean! keep up the good work

chris
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Post by: Ricco_04 on September 18, 2006, 09:28:43 PM
Cheers guys.

Can\'t remember if I had already said but I am contemplating spraying the bay black - it will hide any future oil spots that build up again and again but mostly for the face that black and a little bit of chrome goes a long way!  Not sold on it 100% cause i\'m not keen oncars with one colour outside to another one in the bay!  So gonna give the entire bay a couple of full coat\'s when im happy with it.

What you recon - black or white?
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Post by: Kron on September 18, 2006, 09:43:23 PM
Definately white, And try and polish the metal parts instead of chrome if you can.

Chrome really should have died a death in the 90\'s. Bloody Americans ;)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on September 19, 2006, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Kron
Chrome really should have died a death in the 90\'s. Bloody Americans ;)


LMAO :D

Which is the easier to keep clean though? (I enjoy low meintenance and high drive time :D)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 16, 2006, 11:28:14 PM
Little update.....

I have brought a few stainless steel fittings for putting the bodywork back together with.

The lip splitter was actually damaged - so I have fiberglassed that back together.  And attached it back onto the nose.

All the front bumper supports have been stripped down to bear metal, repainted and fitted back together.

My front left wing which had the parking damage in has been shaped back so it\'s reasonably straght.  1st layer of filler has been added and smoothed down.  For my first effort I was actually quite impressed with how I did! :)  It\'s all a learning expearience :)

Moved the car away from the bloomin hedge and turned it around so I can work on the other side easier.  All the front left arch has been washed of all the crud - most of the rust has been taken out (it\'s pretty much all serface but it need\'s doing else no point in the 1st place!) Again most of the rust is all under where the panel\'s have been sealed :confused:  but thankfully not too bad. 1 bolt left to undo in the shock here which is proving to be a right pain in the butt but just a matter of using more swear word\'s! :D  All the rest where easy - even the 4 nuts on the top which where just nipped up and not properly tight! :eek:

With the cold now properly set in im turning my sight\'s to the engine.  I finially managed to get myself a normal hex pattern 54mm socket and a beefy breaker bar to crack this bugger off.  Thinking im gonna need a million people to get this done I used my usuall blisfull ignorance and had a go on my own.  I lugged the engine over to something solid, anchored it all down, and attached the weapons - which included an 8ft long pole! :spank   Didn\'t even take my own weight and I had the begger off!  Very happy with that one and done all by myself :D :D :D

Can\'t wait to get the engine apart and finially see what\'s been going with it. :)
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Post by: Grizzly on November 16, 2006, 11:51:23 PM
Be carfull with stainless bolts etc, We unfortunatly work on alot of Lotus\'s and VX220\'s and there for ever snapping becouse there Brital.

If you want some advise use copper Lube when you put them in.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 18, 2006, 12:57:39 PM
Ah I get you - I knew there was something which people warned about them but couldn\'t remember.  I shall be using the stainless nut\'s bolts etc for bodywork only - I was thinking they should not corrode up and be easier to undo - but if they are brittle and brake.    Mmmmmmm guess you cant win!

Thanks for the knowledge, I by no mean\'s know lot\'s but am learning and eger to do so! :Thumbs-up
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 19, 2006, 07:11:07 PM
Well I got myself buisy today and stripped the entire engine.  The first time I have ever seen one of these open in the flesh.  I have to say that I actually really enjoyed every moment of it and especially as it all went without hitch!  Also (sounds silly) but nothing inside there was a surprise, except what good condition everything appeared to be, or at least to the eye! ;)

The rotor\'s didn\'t weigh as much as I expected but my god, the eccentric shaft is a bit heavy!! :eek   and the inside of the housing just seems even smaller than I was expecting.  What a cool little engine.

Gonna have to start cleaning them all up tomorrow and then have to buy a few tool\'s to measure up all tolerence\'s.  Will post up some picture\'s from today when I get back - im going out to relax! :D :WaveBye
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Post by: Grizzly on November 19, 2006, 07:16:25 PM
Sounds like you\'ve been having fun :yes

Its a great feeling when you have just finished your Rebuild and hear it running for the First time.

Did you manage to get the Center plate off ok? LOL they can be a bit of a bugger (bit more so when there going back ;))

Now its the Grubby bit!! You are doing some thing wrong if you don\'t smell like Gunk for a week after LOL.
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Post by: antnicuk on November 19, 2006, 08:08:23 PM
Quote from: Grizzly


Its a great feeling when you have just finished your Rebuild and hear it running for the First time.


Too True


Did you manage to get the Center plate off ok? LOL they can be a bit of a bugger (bit more so when there going back ;))


Definatley


Now its the Grubby bit!! You are doing some thing wrong if you don\'t smell like Gunk for a week after LOL.


MMMmmmm,  fond memories!




Keep up the good work and keep us updated.:Thumbs-up
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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 20, 2006, 11:37:19 PM
Just typed out a big reply but lost the server! :(  Still can’t get back on now so good job I am doing this for the 2nd time in Word! :D

Anyway, yeah been having fun :cool  Thank you also for the comment’s :)  The scary part for me is to come now!  I always say “any fool can undo a nut and a bolt!”

I kinda like the smell of Gunk (don’t hurt me!)  Sure I will hate the smell soon!  Is Gunk the weapon of choice?  I was going to try and use a part’s washer (no not the Mother or dishwasher! :D) which I assume uses parrafin?

As for the plate’s, the first one needed a very gentle tap and came away on the 1st tap and broke the seal to the next housing, winner! :D  The rest of the housings just came away by hand – guess I was lucky there.  Luck seem’s to be something I have been having with this engine.  Since I removed the 54mm jobbie it’s all gone without hitch and everything has been what I expected (touch wood!)

I think I will need to replace at least one of the housing’s as I can see the chrome has started to come away, just before the exhaust port.  I expect to have a few throw away job’s as after all the engine did have 116,000 miles on it.  Also interesting to see the level of buildup on the rotor’s (although I have nothing to compare it to) as the owner always’s used fully synthetic oil (first 4 years was owned by Mazda so assume they used mineral) but that’s another subject! ;)

So looks like I’m gonna grab a cuppa and get back in the garage for another hour or so to pick out the old seals and start trying to clean up what I can so I shall leave you with the pictures, of course, it would be rude not to! :Giggle

(And I have just come back in now - was about an hour eh! :Giggle )

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/DSC01100.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/DSCN2277.jpg)

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Post by: Ricco_04 on November 23, 2006, 09:04:38 PM
Well, I haven’t done that much since my last post but here goes anyway:

Took all of the water seals out of the housing’s and the only suspicious thing I could find was this tiny lack of seal in the picture below.  I, of course, checked on the opposite housing to see if it had got stuck there but it wasn’t.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCN2310.jpg)

I also found this interesting ‘clump’ in one of the waterways.  Some kind of build-up, feel’s all sandy & held together with a little oil & coolant:

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCN2324.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCN2330.jpg)

This is the damage around one of the exhaust ports – think it’s pretty much a throw away job?

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCN2338.jpg)

Poor seal?

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCN2329.jpg)

Asked the chap in the garage at work today if I could use his part’s washer to which he said no problem!! :D  So I have put 1 end plate, 1 Ali housing & 1 rotor in a box to take with me tomorrow.  Now comes the problem! When I was sliding one of the housings off the bench I forgot about one of the parts which sticks out, which caught on a rotor and promptly fell on my foot!!!  

I think I now hold the record for the most number of swear words inside of 5 seconds!  Unfortunately this has caused damage wher the apex seal sits, which you can see on the pic.  I was really annoyed with myself for doing this & I know roughly how much this cost new (if you can even still get T2 rotors!)  Oh and I also took a chunk out of my big toe which decided to soak some of my sock in claret! (Don’t really care about that, just for the rotor! :rollin)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCN2342.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCN2344.jpg)

So without even measuring anything I know I need 1 rotor (unless it can be fixed) and 1 Ali housing (also unless it can be fixed!)  It’s making me think of changing my plan and buying a 2nd hand 13bRew from an FD and using that  - haven’t even looked at any cost’s though! :rolleyes:

Well,  I’ll get those part’s washed as best as I can tomorrow :King
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Post by: dhracer on March 10, 2007, 09:21:58 PM
bump :WaveBye interesting read :Thumbs-up  How are you getting along now?
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 11, 2007, 11:00:21 PM
Thanks for asking fella sorry to say that since my last post I have not really done a fat lot.  I can never seem to save up enough money to get anything done.  More than once I have contemplated breaking the car as more than half the car is in boxes ready to be shipped out - but I couldn\'t possably let myself do that! :chat

Anyway, I gave the engine bay a good clean up (again!)  There is just sooooo much room in there and it crying out for a N/A 20b! I wish! :D

Discovered that there was a tiny leak coming from the rear wing so that has been removed and the mounting holes have been plugged up.  Rear carpet has been removed and it\'s spotless underneath! :chat

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC01297.jpg)

The passanger arch has had every last bit of rust removed and a good few coats of underseal to protect it.  I have also removed a few more rust spots from around the bay (about 6 areas) those have been primed and painted to stop it coming back - when its ready it will all be sanded down and painted again anyway.

Rust removed from bonnet and door hinges.  They have been repainted and refitted.

I started to take the subframe off the front but man I am either weak or the bolts are too tight!  Also going to look into fitting the Saxo lekkie steering to eliminate the standard heavy job and the weird assist that comes with it.

After the thread of someone doing their bodywork (sorry I cant remember I think it was T2Rew?) I decided to have another go at my rather terrible attempt.  I have to say I THINK I did much better than I did before! (not hard though lol)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC01602.jpg)

I know they are all arty farty jobs and no proper decent work has been done, still, I thought I had done more though! :( I will have to get my act together!

I had a guy supposed to come round a while ago to do the rust underneath but because of the recent weather we had to call it off.  I must get in tough with him because once that\'s done then I can put the wings, nose cone and bonnet back on and have some space back in the garage!
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Post by: TiddlesRX7 on April 19, 2007, 11:46:02 PM
Wow thats a whole lot of work you\'ve done and still got to do. I have a front splitter on mine that needs repairing as it is cracked. Was it a hard job to do? I have never worked with fiber glass before.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 20, 2007, 12:19:31 PM
Quote from: adereed
Wow thats a whole lot of work you\'ve done and still got to do. I have a front splitter on mine that needs repairing as it is cracked. Was it a hard job to do? I have never worked with fiber glass before.


Cheers for the comment\'s :)  It is a lot of work but if I had a proper garage with some space I dare say it would have been finished a while ago!

Anyway, bit of a blunder by myself on regards to repairing the splitter.  Fiberglass doesn\'t go well with polyurethene - as in it will not hold!  Why I tried to use fiberglass I cant remember but it was a bad idea :rolleyes:  .  I will have to find out the proper way to repair it which will be a job for the future as I have been doing a fair bit of work on the FD.

I\'m sure someone on here will have the knowledge when it comes to repairing polyurethene?
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Post by: Ricco_04 on September 14, 2007, 12:11:19 AM
While the FD is in the bodyshop I have been done a bit of bodywork and thought this could do with an update.

Both driver and passanger wings, both headlight covers and the bonnet have been sanded blocked, hi-build primed, blocked and sprayed with several layers of base coat and clear laquer.  All but one of the wings have been wet sanded and polished.  Quite pleased with the results for a first attempt :)

Irons where all within tolerence although one only just - I have decided to get all 4 surfaces lapped and buy 2 brand new rotor housings.  Just need to source the rest of the rebuild kit etc.

Headlight covers

Before picture:

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(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCN2781.jpg)

Wings

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC01823.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC02441.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/22-08-2007p.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/23-08-2007v.jpg)

Bonnet with the good old bye bye paint job!

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC02508.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC02514.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/17-08-2007e.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/17-08-2007j.jpg)

Picture of bonnet day after, just before I wet sanded it - just need to polish it up, been doing it all by hand but I really need a reasonable mop to take the strain out of it!

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/2007_0831_155656b.jpg)
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Post by: grinder on September 14, 2007, 10:20:50 AM
very very very impressed matey - keep up the good work ( and the pics ! )
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Post by: Brett on September 14, 2007, 11:32:35 AM
Looking good :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on September 15, 2007, 12:06:00 AM
Quote from: grinder
very very very impressed matey - keep up the good work ( and the pics ! )


Thanks mate - i\'m kind of a succer for taking pictures :spank


Quote from: Brett
Looking good :D



Ta fella :)
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Post by: Grizzly on September 17, 2007, 08:53:22 PM
Quote from: Ricco_04
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCN2342.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCN2344.jpg)
May be worth having a chat with Carl about this, i believe he can repair rotor damage like that.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on September 19, 2007, 05:23:39 PM
Quote from: Grizzly
May be worth having a chat with Carl about this, i believe he can repair rotor damage like that.


Cheer\'s fella :)  I did indeed pay Carl a visit.  He had offered to repair it FOC which was really cool of him.  While he was doing that I had the workshop tour (talk about kid in a sweet shop! :Laugh )
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Post by: Ricco_04 on December 14, 2007, 11:38:52 PM
Done very little to this car but thought I would stick up a couple more photo\'s!  The plan for the car has changed dramatically as I have now decided to do a complete stock rebuild.  As this is a uk car that will also mean 2 cat\'S!!!

I have decided to do this because basically it has come down to ££.  I want to keep the car running standard ecu and with it the 95 ron fuel.  It at least means that in the future I can still decide to change my mind but for now I won\'t have the expence of a complete exhaust system with new turbo, manifold, external wastegate, fuel pump, fpr, ecu, injectors and mapping.

All I need really is a replacement standard turbo, or would you guys advise on getting mine rebuilt? :confused:  (anyone had a stock one rebuilt??) From memory, there are no cracks, just a bit too much shaft play.

I would also need a stock manifold as mine has a few cracks - or can these be repaired.  I have no idea if thats a silly question but might as well ask. :Thumbs-up

Anyway, I decided to get the exhaust from under the car, take off any rust and repaint it with very high temp paint.  They where not that bad to be honest but I wanted to get a little bit more protection on them.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03202.jpg)

I had also send my plates off to Pip\'s to have them all lapped.  There was 1 face which was on the limit of out of tolerence and the rest where fine.  As I am using 2 new housings and obviously a brand new rebuild kit I thought it would be a good idea to have all 4 faces of the plates lapped.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03173.jpg)

Anyway, I need to look at buying the rebuild gaskets & seals.  Then I need to sort out a turbo and manifold :)
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Post by: TiddlesRX7 on December 15, 2007, 04:50:42 PM
MMMMMM shiny bits. Looking good.
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Post by: t2rew on December 16, 2007, 10:32:54 PM
i got a crack free manifold and a good turbo. i also got a hks inlet. make me an offer :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on December 17, 2007, 09:31:11 PM
Ooooh interested, please forgive the probably dumb questions :

Turbo & manifold from the same car?
Is the turbo identicle to mine?
How many miles on it?

To be honest I have no idea what to even offer for wither the tubbie or manifold (i\'ll leave the HKS jobbie for now thanks) so what would you want for them delivered?

Cheers :)
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Post by: Macer on February 19, 2008, 11:09:41 AM
I\'ve just read through this entire thread... phew! Impressive stuff though. You\'re putting a lot of hard work in, but it must be really satisfying.

Any more updates?
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Post by: Ricco_04 on February 19, 2008, 01:01:28 PM
Hi there,

Yeah, a lot of work and it\'s actually a joy to do, when you step back and see all the little bits start to make a difference.  I will have to go through the most recent pictures and do a bit of an update.  There may may not be much to see but the hours have slowly gone in. :)  

I have been sanding the bay down and priming it up ready for another rub down and fresh paint.  Gotta have the radio on and listen to some quality tunes, time just flies by :D
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Post by: dthebuk on February 19, 2008, 02:15:44 PM
Quote from: vz-r_dave
how did it go mate?

if you didnt manage to pick it up i have a white T2 that i might be selling. However its in 10 times better condition then then the one on ebay and runs sweet. So Im looking for atleast 1500. Let me know if you\'d be interested. Dave



cant be THAT sweet if ur selling for £1500 :D
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Post by: TiddlesRX7 on February 19, 2008, 02:24:48 PM
I dunno. You can get one thats petty sweet (Other than the usual little gremlins!)for that sort of money. Mines not bad and I didn\'t pay much more than that.
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Post by: dthebuk on February 19, 2008, 02:44:26 PM
ah fair dooze, maybe the rest are overpriced?
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Post by: Brett on March 04, 2008, 08:20:06 AM
Any news?  Surely it\'s got an MOT by now? :Giggle
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 04, 2008, 12:57:22 PM
ahhh ha ha ha!  That cheerd me up! :rollin

No not quite got one yet.  To say progress is poor is a right understatement.  I havn\'t even got round to updating this like I said I would!  I have been working on it, honest guv! :bandit

I must must must do an update first.  Plans are at the moment :

I have got to see my local garage to see when they can come and collect the car so they can have it up on the ramps to get the old welder on the floor.

Once they have done tha t I can start putting the front end back together :)

In the meantime I want to get the block assembled complete with inlet manifolds on.  I need to save for the turbo and manifold before I can bolt those and the downpipe on. and then Once done I can lower these and the gearbox back into place :)

I\'ll try and upload some pictures in a few days :)
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Post by: Brett on March 04, 2008, 02:16:33 PM
Cool, theres been some good hybrid turbos on ebay.com recently ;)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 08, 2008, 03:25:55 PM
Ok time for quick catch up!  There is a bit more than this, just going to write the rest in a bit :)

Exhaust heat shields for the tunnel have had all the crap and oxidation sanded off them:

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03333.jpg)

Then a couple of coats of high temp paint on for good measure:

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03319.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03321.jpg)

Rear Cans and \'Y\' pipe from the exhaust has had the same treatment too:

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03323.jpg)

Had a little bit of arch rust so out with the rust, dab of filler and has since been covered with some white hammerite to keep the elements

off - the hammerite will be sanded off again when it\'s time for painting proper:

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03364.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03375.jpg)

I have also been under the car renewing the underseal.  I have been
cleaning it with a wire brush and exposing any areas that have started
to flake and show rust underneath.  I have probably done about 30% of
the floor now.

While I was underneath I took off the middle two exhaust hooks and gave
them a makeover :wiggle

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03474.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03476.jpg)

I also decided to give the standard wheels from the FD a try.  The FD
wheels are 1/2 an inch wider but weigh a LOT less.  I stuck them on to
have a look at all the clearance and just to see how they looked.  To be
honest the standard TII wheels are just miles better suited to the car -
what do you think?

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCF1402.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCF1397.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCF1403.jpg)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 08, 2008, 03:27:49 PM
The guy who had the car before must have reversed onto a low wall because the spare wheel well was looking slightly....ur....bent!

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03652.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03655.jpg)

I set to work with my metal bending tools ;) and got virtually all the dent out.  After that I got any remaining rust off and finished up with a good slap of underseal:

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03661.jpg)

The car tool well had also fallen foul to the elements.  This was due to a leak in one of the rear spoiler mounts.  Got to work sanding it ( and heck did it just take hours :( )  This is a picture from half way through:

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03610.jpg)

Just some lacquer to go on now :)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03648.jpg)
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Post by: Kron on March 08, 2008, 05:08:34 PM
What sort of condition are your rear arch wells in Ricco? Do you have any really good close up pics as to what they should look like?

I always thought it was odd we got a plastic liner for the front but the back is left bare.
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Post by: pdtaylor18 on March 08, 2008, 05:57:16 PM
the front is more open to the road as you will have all the inner wing, washer bottles, front bumper etc that would get plastered with mud and dirt and the obvious corrosion.  The rear has nothing as its all one piece compared to the front where the wings and front can be replaced.  Mind you i would prefer a piece of plastic worth pence to take the battering than the inner arches but then all the JDM ones i have worked on in the past year (4) they have all not had one bit of rust.  The UK ones I just scrapped !!! not even sure a piece of plastic would have helped them if fitted from new.
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Post by: Grizzly on March 08, 2008, 07:57:35 PM
Hey at least if your wheel well can be smacked up like that without half the back end of the car falling off you know your doing ok for rust :) usaly water leaks etc rot most of that clean off.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 08, 2008, 11:12:49 PM
Quote from: Kron
What sort of condition are your rear arch wells in Ricco? Do you have any really good close up pics as to what they should look like?

I always thought it was odd we got a plastic liner for the front but the back is left bare.


Yeah I thought that when I was removing the front ones.  As Pete says the fronts have more to defend against.

My rear arches arn\'t too bad, yes there is some rust in there but not as much as I thought for a nearly 20 year old car :)  Plan to get what is rusty fixed and then use about 9 tonnes of underseal - just to be sure! :spank

Quote from: Grizzly
Hey at least if your wheel well can be smacked up like that without half the back end of the car falling off you know your doing ok for rust :) usaly water leaks etc rot most of that clean off.


LMAO I like your way of thinking :rollin
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Post by: antnicuk on March 08, 2008, 11:23:38 PM
fd wheels wont fit the front iirc

keep up the good work
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 08, 2008, 11:34:43 PM
Thaks mate :)   Is it the inner clearance that\'s the problem do you know?
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 06, 2008, 10:29:48 AM
Little bit of an update.......

Roof had a "little" bit of rust which needed getting rid of.  I didnt want to keep seeing it so I sanded away all the rust.  Untill I got round to painting properly, I gave it a good coat of Hammerite to keep it out of the elements :)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03788.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03834.jpg)

Engine bay had been completly sanded back with all traces of rust removed.  This has been done completly from the front to the bay bulkheak.  Everywhere got a rub dow and then shot with primer!

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03841.jpg)
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Post by: pdtaylor18 on April 06, 2008, 12:26:02 PM
I was looking at doing that to mine but its so much stuff to take off especially as i have air con. Engine is out anyway.  I have cleaned mine up and polished it and it does come up quite nice but not good enough for my liking.  Think i may well take the plunge when the cars back from Replikit.  At least in that time I can detail the engine and get the new turbo on etc but i\'ll post all that up in my thread.  Are you keeping the colour the same? Still tempted to change mine to a nice vibrant red with a metallic flake to it but the work involved is immence to get everything done properly and make it seem like it left the factory like it.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 07, 2008, 11:47:27 AM
Yeah, they do clean up pretty well dont they :)  Bit of restorer on the bay works a treat.  Only reason I did mine was because I had attacked a few areas of rust and with every component out it seemed a waste not to respray it :)

I\'d say that if you look under a bonnet and wish it looked cleaner then spend the extra time and get it done :Thumbs-up

I shall be keeping the same colour but if I did change it I would like to go for a really really dark metallic blue.  I like darker colours because they polish & reflect better :) (but love them in white too....damm it!)

What do you think of the velocity red they use for thr RX-8?  Would you be tempted with that?
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Post by: pdtaylor18 on April 07, 2008, 08:57:41 PM
I think I will have to see that close up but it would be nice to go for a colour that i can get over the counter...........cough......Halfords.  trouble with most of the Jap colours is they are hard to get in a spray can and i think i want that option if i choose to spray other things etc later on, or even the touch ups.  The FC red is nice but i think i would like it more darker red.  I also love the blues and especisally the dark blue |mazda used on some of the FC\'s and FD\'s.
White is nice but shows all the dirt.  I also get some discoluration at the exhaust tips due to the heat,might create some carbon covers as i have a roll of the stuff.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 08, 2008, 11:37:57 PM
Mmmmm yeah, rattle cans are always good.  I was surprised what a good finish with them (when I first started).  I\'m sure that there are some places online that you can order with your make, model, year and paint code and they will send you some fresh mixed up paint.  Dont know how many £££ though :(
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Post by: BenLewisMav on April 09, 2008, 02:02:36 AM
The problem with paint is that once its on a car it ages, oxides, discolours from UV rays, smogs etc. The thing we do is take a panel (usually a light cover or wing mirror) to a motor factors/paint supplier and one of their experts there (ours has over 25 years experience) mixes up a new colour, simulating the fading/discolouration/whatever. Most times its a near perfect match, and only requires a small amount of blending into surrounding paint. I think most Part Co stores do it, should even be able to get it put into rattle cans for touch ups etc.
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Post by: BenLewisMav on April 09, 2008, 02:09:14 AM
Just thought I\'d show you my attempt at repainting the engine bay (seeing as the car has been scrapped now no-one will see my efforts otherwise! :));
 
Attack of the Nitromors:
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Grey Stripe Seam Sealer:
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White Hammerite (Durable stuff :)):
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 09, 2008, 11:26:13 AM
Some hard work gone into that, what a shame you had to break it in the end.  Am I right in thinking you now have the black one - sure I saw it in another thread?

Im using hammerite on the areas underneath for the reason you say that it\'s a lot tougher stuff.  Im not using it anywhere you can see it but the colour difference is not that bad at all :)
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Post by: BenLewisMav on April 09, 2008, 01:06:58 PM
I know, such a lot of work to never even see an engine in it, ah well just preparing me for the \'challenges\' coming up later using a 400hp FC as a daily driver..
Yes I have a Black JDM coupe now, very tidy, only 40,000km on the clocks and very very solid. Dropped a rebuilt street ported motor into it and have done about 9 months worth of work to it since, about 85% done. I will put a real progress thread up soon when I have time to go through and upload all the photos.
Also Hammerite is good stuff :) easy to apply, readily available and tough!
Nice project by the way, its always good to come check up how its doing every so often.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 10, 2008, 09:25:47 PM
Thanks fella, I shall also be following your project :Thumbs-up
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 27, 2008, 09:57:43 PM
Ok all the primer has had a complete rub down (tiring stuff this!)  followed up with base coat and clear lacquer.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03891.jpg)

Managed to get some replacement glass for the lights.  Gave the chrome surround a good polish along with the new glass units and all came up well.  Re-blacked all the trim and attached them backtogether.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03875.jpg)

I have completley recovered the main loom in the engine bay.  Takes a while but the old tape (although not really brittle) was coming undone  and needed a tidy.

I have also welded up a few items.  The spare wheel well would have been ok once I had sanded it but it was just a bit too thin for my liking.  So out with the cutters and in with a new piece of metal.  I also sorted a bit of rust on the inner arch of the left rear.  And the last bit for now was to weld the front left brake pipe mounting bracket back on.

All went very well & everything that I welded is proper solid! :D

I have also started sanding down some ali brackets which had been oxidizing (Fuse box bracket, fuel pump cover, filler inspection cover)  These will be primed up and then sprayed satin black :)
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Post by: pdtaylor18 on April 27, 2008, 10:26:31 PM
if you send your address i will send you a roll of heat resistant tape for your loom. its in black and self adhese\'s to itself. Dam fine stuff.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 29, 2008, 04:31:09 PM
Thats very kind of you Pete, as long as you have no need for it then great :yes Thank you :guinness
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Post by: pdtaylor18 on April 29, 2008, 06:48:29 PM
i GET IT FOR FREE !!
Got myself a petrol generator now so i can at last use my air compressor and all the lovely tools i got on a trip to the US.  I can also do some spraying so looking forward to that. In fact having your address might be a good thing for you as worcester is my childhood kicking ground and most of my family live in Tenbury Wells so i can always pop by for a nosey and chat whenever i\'m passing.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 29, 2008, 07:40:32 PM
Oh excellant! thanks, i\'ll send you a PM over :guinness

Welcome anytime but I do stress the pictures make everything look better than it is :Giggle
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Post by: pdtaylor18 on April 29, 2008, 08:41:53 PM
its not always about the pics or the even the car but a good natter about how we do the things we do regardless of the standard or how it turns out.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on April 29, 2008, 08:53:52 PM
True indeed (Glad ;) :Laugh)
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Post by: BenLewisMav on April 30, 2008, 02:09:53 AM
Quote from: pdtaylor18;494958
its not always about the pics or the even the car but a good natter about how we do the things we do regardless of the standard or how it turns out.

Here here! :cheers I\'ll drink to that...
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Post by: Ricco_04 on May 07, 2008, 01:54:53 PM
Remembering a post on here about poly bushes, I rang Superflex today to ask what they did for the FC.  They dont do a full kit yet but they do a few.  They have said the website is not up to date so they will update the FC parts asap so will be good to see what they have for the fc guys (and gals :) )  It will probably be at least a week before they do but website is :

http://www.superflex.co.uk

(must do an update for this too :))
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Post by: Ricco_04 on May 23, 2008, 04:40:04 PM
Ok here are the sanded & painted components.  Look a lot better than what they where :

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(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03983.jpg)

I have also given the left rear arch a flipping good seeing too!  Cleaned it all up, removed any rusty areas and given it a good weather seal - Looks 10x better (Have also started the process on the right rear too :)) :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03961.jpg)

I have started putting back the heat shields.  Its starting to make progress again on the front (although I havnt even started on the rear which I know will be worse!)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04003.jpg)

Decided that im going to paint all the brackets and aliminium pieces up because it will look mucho better.  A lot of the ali has a little bit of oxidation on so I can shot blast this off and paint it up in fresh satin :D (few pictures attached) Also I removed the front subframe and stripped the components off it.  Going to send this off with a couple of other items to get it shotblasted and powdercoated :mmmm

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04083.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04191.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04077.jpg)

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(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04060.jpg)

I have started putting bits back in the car now so need a few photos there.  I also have nearly all my parts for the engine rebuild (just gotta get me some new front and rear main seals!)

Ricco :)
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Post by: pdtaylor18 on May 23, 2008, 05:15:35 PM
Thats a really neat job you are doing there and its going to look really cool when its done.  I know just how much hard work goes into the finer details but they will most definately be worth it.  I\'ve even sourced as many newish nuts and bolts for the underneath and engine bay and they alone make all the difference.  We are on similar ground so be interesting to see both of ours together.  have you a finishing date? I\'m hoping mine B4 August but have a trip to Canada inbetween and i\'m a bit stuck without the car at the mo (replikit) certainly want to make it to Rotostock even if its on a trailer !!!
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Post by: Ricco_04 on May 24, 2008, 09:49:48 PM
Thanks Pete :cool  Think yours will be super cool when it\'s done :chat

Yeah, you just get sucked in thinking well if your gonna do it then you may as well do it properly!  I have spent around £80 on marine grade stainless nuts and bolts, making sure there is a little grease on all the threads incase they need to come out etc.

Think you are a more efficient worker than me by a mile! :Laugh  Im just plodding on doing a bit here and there.  I have a day every while when I just go banzai but most days dont yeild much! :o  I would like to have it done sooner rather than later but im not kidding my self - it aint gonna be 2008! :Laugh
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Post by: BenLewisMav on May 25, 2008, 03:37:16 AM
Mmm.. gonna be one tidy car when done! Glad theres people like you/us guys etc still willing to make these cars better for other people to experience. Seems a shame thinking about all the ones going to the scrapyards.
 
I almost dare not ask, but when is rotorstock again??
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Post by: dthebuk on May 25, 2008, 09:23:29 AM
10th august :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on May 26, 2008, 12:50:34 PM
Sorted then - Target is August 2009! :rollin  Assume we will still be doing RS then :yes :guinness

Yeah, it\'s always a shame to see the cars being broken for spares but as long as we have a good handfull left then it\'s all good :Thumbs-up  I had considered a while ago to brake this car - I mean it was all boxed up so it was just a matter of wrapping & shipping.  Just that when you go over the old photos and see what you started with then you keep going! :guinness
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Post by: Ricco_04 on June 19, 2008, 09:24:33 PM
Ok time for another update, been playing again :chat

Been shotblasting a few items again :chat It\'s addictive (no really!) I mean when you spend so much time arsing around with sandpaper, flapwheels & wire wheels and all of a sudden try blasting - it\'s a godsend I tell you!

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04324.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04325.jpg)

Anyway after many hours I ended up with these piles of brackets :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04469.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04481.jpg)

Cleaned all the rubbish off the outsides of the end plates & inside of the front cover (going to hopefully shotblast that alson with the UIM and LIM as the next job)

Few pictures of the front here (I have put a few more items in since like the abs)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04510.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04519.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04517.jpg)

I have just done the pre-assembly of the rotors and am about to assemble the block itself :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSCF1996.jpg)

However I have a question.  I have mounted one of the plates on the engine stand and was just looking at the ports.  Now to begin with I want to do a completly standard rebuild of the car but looking at the rough casting on the ports I am wondering wether to grind them smooth as it seems a wasted opportunity to not spend a few hours tidying them up?

Now im not going to be increasing the size (I want to stay on stock ECU for the time being) but I was just wondering what affect (if any) this would have to the general running.  I know the flow will be increased ever so slightly but will I be safe on stock UK ecu (I recon so but I just want to ask :wave)

Heres what im on about.........

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(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04605.jpg)

While on the subject, If I port matched the manifolds would I still be ok.  Again i\'m sure they would all be fine but just asking the question :)
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Post by: pdtaylor18 on June 19, 2008, 10:16:37 PM
even if you kept the sizes the same any smoothing of any of the fuel/air passages, be it the throttle housing, ports, even the wastegate and exhaust will improve flow either in or out.  Its not really going to upset anything by doing them and a standard ECU will cope just fine.  it would be a wasted opportunity not to enlarge the ports though, someone will let you know just how it will affect fuelling etc as I dont but its got to be worth while.
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Post by: Grizzly on June 20, 2008, 07:40:35 PM
Quote from: Ricco_04;510403

However I have a question.  I have mounted one of the plates on the engine stand and was just looking at the ports.  Now to begin with I want to do a completly standard rebuild of the car but looking at the rough casting on the ports I am wondering wether to grind them smooth as it seems a wasted opportunity to not spend a few hours tidying them up?

Now im not going to be increasing the size (I want to stay on stock ECU for the time being) but I was just wondering what affect (if any) this would have to the general running.  I know the flow will be increased ever so slightly but will I be safe on stock UK ecu (I recon so but I just want to ask :wave)


Thats a tricky question, mainly because there are Tuners who are Specialists in port work who say they can make a good stock port flow better than a bad Extended Port. But that said they do allot more than just smoothing a Runner out so its a guess how much the flow is improved or even hampered?? I would  do a bit of research into it rather then taking it for granted that a port job with the std Timing will still be ok?
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Post by: Ricco_04 on June 21, 2008, 11:21:52 PM
Cool thanks guys.

I remember reading about how they shouldnt be polished because that creates resistance by not being able to \'trap\' air in the rougher areas and using that as a zero resistance bed for the incoming charge to travel on - wether having a rough cast or a slightly rough gas flowed/port matched is better in this instance I would have thought it better to do the work - so I think I will get it done.

You can see a lip on the port where the plates are \'stuck\' together and thats probably on every port face and when done in conjunction with the UIM & LIM should start to make a difference.  Sounds silly but im only doing this because it\'s just how I think it should be done. :)
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Post by: antnicuk on June 22, 2008, 11:04:05 AM
some say that you dont want it too smooth but others ake them smooth.  I dont think its an argument that will ever be settled.

Some really good work you are doing there,  very pain staking.
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Post by: Grizzly on June 22, 2008, 12:11:10 PM
I also think peoples interpretation of a polished runner differs too. Because its a Casting often people see Smooth as Polished, i personally see anything less than 80grit scratches as polished (doesn\'t really have to have a luster) but when you here "Ported and Polished" it often means the Runner has been blended into the Port work. I would agree with you that Flash marks are not supposed to be there, But again the better the Swirl effect in the runner the better the Fuel Atomization but in turn it slows the air speed.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on June 22, 2008, 07:36:27 PM
Quote from: antnicuk;510978
some say that you dont want it too smooth but others ake them smooth.  I dont think its an argument that will ever be settled.

Some really good work you are doing there,  very pain staking.


Cheers fella :)

Well I have done them all, didnt seem a chore but when you look at your watch and think WTF where did the time go! :Giggle

Didnt go mad with them, took off all the rough casting - didnt worry too much about getting a really smooth finish but seeing how much bits where pertruding and overlapping I have to say that this has got to be an improvement :)

Guess the next thing is to finish assembling the short block now :)

Quote from: Grizzly;510987
I also think peoples interpretation of a polished runner differs too. Because its a Casting often people see Smooth as Polished, i personally see anything less than 80grit scratches as polished (doesn\'t really have to have a luster)


Yeah see what your saying. The Fireblade in my Westfield had been gas flowed - its not super smooth but it aint rough either so I have tried to go the same, may have gone slightly smoother.

I\'ll upload the pictures and hope you think there ok :Giggle
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Post by: Ricco_04 on June 23, 2008, 11:32:47 PM
Doh, kinda feel a little silly asking this. Was laying all the stuff out ready to put the engine together when I remembered that when I got the plates lapped, Pip took out the small dowles and I cant think where they go.

They are the 10mm long ones (4 of them) they go somewhere in the irons but I just cant think where :spank

Can anyone learn me please! :cheers
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Post by: t2rew on June 24, 2008, 09:34:03 PM
end plate, face that mounts the gearbox. maybe
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Post by: Ricco_04 on June 25, 2008, 01:08:06 PM
lol yeah I think I have it.  There seems to be 2 available openings in both front and rear plates, which makes sence.  I gave Pip a quick buzz (as he got the plates lapped for me) but living in the sticks I had no signal and missed his call back! :spank
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Post by: t2rew on June 26, 2008, 08:04:00 PM
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lol yeah I think I have it.  There seems to be 2 available openings  :spank


go with the pink:Giggle
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Post by: Ricco_04 on June 27, 2008, 01:06:42 PM
LMAO! :Laugh

(didnt even realise I had typed that! :spank)
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Post by: antnicuk on June 27, 2008, 05:48:35 PM
are they about 10mm wide (diameter)?,  if so, they are the rear plate ones that go into the gear box as T2REW says but you only have 2.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on June 27, 2008, 06:33:42 PM
Yeah those sound like the blighters - they have threads in too :) I\'ll get those 2 put in  - thank you both :)

So wonder why I have 4 then?!  (Maybe chuck the other two into the exhaust ports :rollin)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04692.jpg)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on July 12, 2008, 08:48:57 PM
Ok ports came up not too bad at all and glad I did them in the end :) (took a lot of time though!)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04635.jpg)


I also got round to dismembering the rear subframe.  Dropped the whole lot, removed suspension arms complete with callipers,

hubs, discs & halfshaft\'s.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04769.jpg)

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I bagged up all the drop links, nuts bolts ya da and also the callipers.  However, I\'m stuck with removing the a-arms from

the uprights.  I have taken out the 2 main bolt\'s but this fella wont shift on either assembly.  I have used penetrating oil (oooh er!!) over a few days, cleaned up the end from dirt/rust/grome and also got the ol impact wrench on there but no joy. Only thing else I can think of is to get some heat into it (have to pick up another though as I ran out grrr)

Any suggestions?? :confused

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(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04794b.jpg)

Thanks for looking :)
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Post by: pdtaylor18 on July 12, 2008, 10:08:24 PM
That one is a pig at the best of times.  only apply the heat at the thread end and see what happens. Mine were corroded all the way around the bolt plain shank as well, in the end it was that corroded that It took a 3 foot bar to crack it and then I had to use it most of the way. Got another from one of my scrap cars and that came out fairly easy. Seams they never really sealed it properly and once 20 odd years of water and salt gets in....well the result is what you have.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on July 13, 2008, 09:47:45 AM
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Mine were corroded all the way around the bolt plain shank as well, in the end it was that corroded that It took a 3 foot bar to crack it and then I had to use it most of the way. Got another from one of my scrap cars and that came out fairly easy. Seams they never really sealed it properly and once 20 odd years of water and salt gets in....well the result is what you have.


Dam thats not what I wanted to hear! :Giggle  Best get off and buy some more gass and a better torque socket :)

I have a stockpile of bits I want shotblasted and powdercoated, just trying to add these bits to go with.  I cant decide on a colour.  First I was just going to have black but then I thought red like some of the Mazdaspeed stuff and then dark blues etc etc.  I do like the colour of the \'Super Now\' stuff though :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 05, 2008, 11:15:03 AM
Still have some to upload but thought I would put together what I have for the moment.

A arms removed from rear suspension, added to the pile of metal which is to be blasted and powdercoated (thanks for the advice with this one :wiggle) :

Onto the engine!

The old motor when stripped down was not in the best of stated (to be expected with over 116,000 miles on it!)  So After checking all the plates I was surprsed to find only 1 of them was slightly out of tolerence in just 1 measurement!

Decided to have the plate lapped and while that was being done I thought get the rest done!  So all 4 plates came back looking like new!  :))   To complement this I also brought 2 brand new TII rotorhousings :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC03173.jpg)

First thing to do was pre-assemble the rotors :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04554.jpg)

In each rotor will go all of these springs, seals, plugs etc :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04587.jpg)

With the front plate on the stand next place the front rotor onto the plate and the front rotor housing over the top .  Remove the front corner seals, insert the apex seals and springs and pop the plugs back.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04657.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04663.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04667.jpg)

On with the eccentric shaft, followed by the intermediate plate, o rings and dowles :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04680.jpg)

Little later on and looks like this :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04706.jpg)

Rear plate is popped on top and is joined with the rear stationary gear complete with new seal and o ring :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04714.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04719.jpg)

Needle bearings, plates, covers and counterweight on :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04746.jpg)

Oil pump too :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04749.jpg)

Also key, sprokets and chain

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04752.jpg)

I have oiled where necessary, taped up the holes and bagged the engine for now.  Few things to finish off first before the car is ready to accept the engine but its done for now!

Thanks for looking :)

Ricco
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Post by: pdtaylor18 on October 05, 2008, 12:36:27 PM
Nice engine pics, are you doing this from memory or do you have the DVD? Nice to use  new shiney housings.  car will be like new when its done.  You just need to crack on and get this thing finished, cant believe you started this thread way back in 2005 !!!!  Now thats dedication for you.  I dont think I could ever take that long, mind you i do not have a garage to put the car in and therefore I just want to crack on and get it done.  I think I would do a lot more if I had the peace of mind of a nice warm and secure garage to do all the work and not worry about the weather all the time.  Work stopped play the other day because of the wind and rain.  Kepy myself busy though by mooding my rear lights to LED\'s.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 06, 2008, 11:29:00 AM
Unfortunately the car is not in the garage! :(  It\'s sat outside on axle stands as high as they go (and some ;)) covered up to keep it out of the elements! The Westfield takes pride of place in the garage im afraid but is making for a rather expensive shelf :Giggle

As you say though, at least I can remove bits and spend time in the garage then pop them back on the car and keep it covered up!

Yeah 2005 - its mad :2eek  Time has ran away!

I have built myself a shot blasting cabinet which should help!  It\'s big enough for engine blocks and i\'d say you could blast 19" alloys in there too! :Giggle

I had the tyres off the rims the other day.  I was expecting the TII alloys to be fairly heavy but was really surprised, which is good! :)

Rear LED light\'s sound good though :cool
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Post by: Brett on October 06, 2008, 11:53:30 AM
You\'re doing some good work there :)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 06, 2008, 12:07:44 PM
Thanks mate :)

Im borrowing the welder again this week (fingers crossed)  Hopefully I will get the 2 sections underneath welded up and sealed :)  (which I must have said 100x before!)
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Post by: Prof on October 06, 2008, 02:12:53 PM
Nice engine build going on - where did you get the seal kits ?
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 06, 2008, 10:35:01 PM
Thanks :)

I got the main bulk of the seals and gaskets from Japan via RHDrive.  Also at the time RHD where doing a full set of genuine OE Mazda 2mm apex seals for about £70  The rest of the items I got from my local Mazda garage :)
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Post by: BenLewisMav on October 08, 2008, 01:30:41 AM
Coming along nicely. Don\'t forget to film it when you start it up!
Did you use a dvd or the FSM for the rebuild?
Also, did you find it hard to set the end float?
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 15, 2008, 03:47:13 PM
Sorry didnt see your reply :o

Yeah got some DVD\'s.  Watched the 13b DIY and most usefull where the Mazdaworkshop manuals.  I also was given a copy of Bruce Turrentines rebuild DVD and I thought that was excellant for showing different techniques :yes

I have not done the end float yet, I need to beg for another dial guage (or dare say buy one :Giggle)  for now the engine is bagged up.  I will need to get some more gaskets for the upper, lower and exhaust manifolds and will shot blast the manifolds and front cover so next go at the motor should hopefully see it dressed ready to drop in (yeah whatever! :spank :Giggle)
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Post by: dthebuk on October 15, 2008, 06:29:10 PM
just out of curiosity, how good were you with a spanner before you started this project?
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Post by: colin5524 on October 15, 2008, 09:06:38 PM
Excellent write up, looking good, you can get decent dial gauges with magnetic stands fro around 15-20 quid flebay
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 16, 2008, 05:08:07 PM
Quote from: dthebuk;545110
just out of curiosity, how good were you with a spanner before you started this project?


I wasn\'t too bad to be honest - I started learning when I built a kit car which was in comparison so easy cause its just a large meccano set :Giggle

I brought this car so I could learn better how to do things, im still learning and have learnt so much so far.  The engine was really rewarding because there is so much information about meaning that there are not many surprises which gives you the confidence to carry on and enjoy it :)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 16, 2008, 05:10:37 PM
Quote from: colin5524;545135
Excellent write up, looking good, you can get decent dial gauges with magnetic stands fro around 15-20 quid flebay


Thank you :Thumbs-up

Yeah, I was looking at those, they all seem ok, I just worry how well they are calibrated as there is such a difference in price.  I dont know to be honest, they could be spot on for what I need :)
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Post by: dthebuk on October 16, 2008, 05:29:00 PM
Quote from: Ricco_04;545350
I wasn\'t too bad to be honest - I started learning when I built a kit car which was in comparison so easy cause its just a large meccano set :Giggle

I brought this car so I could learn better how to do things, im still learning and have learnt so much so far.  The engine was really rewarding because there is so much information about meaning that there are not many surprises which gives you the confidence to carry on and enjoy it :)

you\'ve done an awesome job so  i thought you may have a back ground in cars or do something work related!

i would one day like to rebuild an engine my self, though i can see it failing hard!!!
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Post by: Ricco_04 on October 16, 2008, 05:37:43 PM
Quote from: dthebuk;545354
you\'ve done an awesome job so  i thought you may have a back ground in cars or do something work related!

i would one day like to rebuild an engine my self, though i can see it failing hard!!!


Ah never say never!  But mine is not running yet :Giggle

Unfortunately I work with carpets!  When I brought my westfield I just about understood what a brake disc and caliper was.  I unloaded the parts and remember looking at the prop wondering what the hell it was!! :rollin

Im of the opinion that you can do anything if you put the time and effort in :Thumbs-up  Probably a reason I have had the car nearly 3 years! :Hammer
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 11, 2009, 11:21:14 AM
Wow, languishing down on the 7th page - knew I should have put some more time in! :Giggle

As the immediate plan is to get a rolling chassis back it was time to just attack the thing.  Out came all the fuel lines, brake pipes, rear suspension, fuel tank and everything else.  This left me free to remove ALL traces of rust (which was the biggest PITA ever)  Its been undersealed, primed and mostly painted underneath, just cause I wanted to!

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05686.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04834.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05011.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05008.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05012.jpg)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 11, 2009, 11:22:06 AM
Engine loom cleaned and in the process of being re-covered.  Checking for any brakes of fraying wires also :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04899.jpg)

This is what the right rear passanger side looked like before.  The rest of the underneath was about the same.  Some aftershots of various sections after :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04820.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05692.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05693.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05695.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05696.jpg)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 11, 2009, 11:22:49 AM
Took the rear bumper off to see what lurked underneath :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05723.jpg)

Gave it a clean up :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05729.jpg)

Took the rear clusters and numberplate out :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05731.jpg)

Masked up the lights, all bolt holes and gave it a clean (now its all ready to take the rust out (quite surprised again as there really is not much :)) :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05732.jpg)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 11, 2009, 11:24:59 AM
Right onto the overhaul of suspension related.

I have several items which I am going to get blasted and powdercoated (not totally decided on colour but thinking of a cherry red :))  These are all the items (so far) that I want done :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05748.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05750.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05752.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC04191.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/DSC05760.jpg)

Which are (and if anyone can fill in the blanks cause im thick that would be great! - 3,4,5,13)

1. Front anti-roll bar
2. Rear anti-roll bar
3. ??? (Cant think of the proper name - rear suspension arms from subframe)
4. ??? (Cant think of the proper name - rear suspension arms from subframe)
5. Rear subframe droplink (is that what it\'s caled?)
6. Rear subframe
7. Right suspension arm
8. Left suspension arm
9. Right rear tow hook
10. Left rear tow hook
11. Left front tow hook
12. Right front tow hook
13. ???
14. Gear box brace
15. Front subframe
16. 2 Sets of shocks and springs (2 not in shot ;))

Problem is that I need to remove all the bushes.  I do want to replace them (hense why I want to know the names properly of the components)  Im going to contact superflex/powerfles or whatever to find out which ones they can do.  I also have the DTSS rear steer eliminators - where do these bushes actually go?

Im also going to choose the best shocks and springs from what I have.  I have seen on other threads people have taken them apart to have bits shotblasted and powdercoated.  I can get spring compressors no problem but I have never taken them apart - is there a website or writeup that would be helpfull?

Anyway thats it for 5 months.  Best I keep it up to date more often cause there is a fair bit there! :Giggle
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Post by: dthebuk on March 11, 2009, 01:01:24 PM
are you installing the DTSS eliminators because you plan on drifting the car?
 
If you are going to drift it now is the time to add more lock
 
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/DRIFT/DCOMPARE/dcompare.html
 
 
sorry to get your hopes up but i cant fill in the blanks
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Post by: pdtaylor18 on March 12, 2009, 02:12:01 AM
Do you need the other frame that fits behind the engine subframe? cabs have them I think as standard and just simply bolt on, just so happens i have a spare one if you need one to get coated. I can send you a pic if you unsure, they give a lot more rigidity to the car and simply act as a underbody strut.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 12, 2009, 08:22:32 AM
Quote from: dthebuk;590282
are you installing the DTSS eliminators because you plan on drifting the car?
 
If you are going to drift it now is the time to add more lock
 
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/DRIFT/DCOMPARE/dcompare.html
 
 
sorry to get your hopes up but i cant fill in the blanks



lol no worries.  Thanks for the link - I dont plan on drifting the car top be honest, although you got me thinking now! :Giggle
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 12, 2009, 08:25:14 AM
Quote from: pdtaylor18;590437
Do you need the other frame that fits behind the engine subframe? cabs have them I think as standard and just simply bolt on, just so happens i have a spare one if you need one to get coated. I can send you a pic if you unsure, they give a lot more rigidity to the car and simply act as a underbody strut.


Ah I remember the thread that they where on (If im right) :
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54915

Assume it is the black one?
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Post by: dthebuk on March 12, 2009, 11:46:59 AM
Quote from: Ricco_04;590447
lol no worries.  Thanks for the link - I dont plan on drifting the car top be honest, although you got me thinking now! :Giggle


then why the DTSS eliminators? :Hammer
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 12, 2009, 11:57:29 AM
Quote from: dthebuk;590495
then why the DTSS eliminators? :Hammer


To eliminate the rear steer.  I read on here that if you are cornering fast then the rear steer becomes more a problem than it is a benefit.  Is this not the case then?
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Post by: dthebuk on March 12, 2009, 12:05:04 PM
oh i don\'t know? I was just under the impression its good. I remember reading about it being a problem if its shot, first ive heard about it being bad tho.


probs just me being stupid :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 12, 2009, 12:11:00 PM
lol you had me worried I brought them for no reason!

Im sure what I read was that for normal driving stock is fine (unless they are shot as you say)  If you are cornering at 90+ or around there then they start to make the car unstable, and more unstable the faster that speed you go.

While I dont plan to do 100mph round corners on the local togue :Giggle I want to change the bush as its old anyway.  Plus if I do take it on track then I have a piece of mind for the higher speeds.

Of course, I shouldnt believe everything I read :Hammer
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Post by: dthebuk on March 12, 2009, 12:14:30 PM
haha sorry about that.

sounds well justified so you probably are right (y)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 12, 2009, 12:21:38 PM
lol no worries, if I am right then I better go lie down!

edit : I think I just remembered the name of noumbers 3 & 4 on my list.  Does rear control arms sound about right?

1. Front anti-roll bar
2. Rear anti-roll bar
3. Left rear droplink ???
4. Right rear droplink ???
5. Rear subframe droplink (is that what it\'s caled?)
6. Rear subframe
7. Right suspension arm
8. Left suspension arm
9. Right rear tow hook
10. Left rear tow hook
11. Left front tow hook
12. Right front tow hook
13. ???
14. Gear box brace
15. Front subframe
16. 2 Sets of shocks and springs (2 not in shot )
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Post by: Ricco_04 on March 12, 2009, 12:36:05 PM
Powerflex do nothing for the FC, Superflex do.  Here is what im looking at (gotta work out what it covers now and what I will be missing :) :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/SuperflexBushlist.jpg)

Hmmm all the quality has gone! Grrrr
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 08, 2012, 09:22:37 PM
Thought I might do a little update to this rather short running project!!

Stock open diff replaced with Torsen from an FD
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/IMG00221-20110130-1615.jpg)

Diff all painted up
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/IMG00188-20110129-1605.jpg)

I will be moving the car to a new garage im having built soon (cause I have also moved house) so had to pop some new tyres on the rims ready for the move.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/IMG00866-20111116-1054.jpg)

Bummer, thought I had more of the pictures but they are on a different computer! :censored: so this rather limp udate wiill have to do till I get to the others - honestly I have done other things! :Laugh  It even rolls on its own wheels :2eek
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Post by: Prof on January 08, 2012, 09:29:02 PM
Nice work on the diff - I have that job to look forward too !
 
What paint did you use on it ?
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 08, 2012, 09:43:35 PM
Quote from: Prof;805664
Nice work on the diff - I have that job to look forward too !
 
What paint did you use on it ?


Cheers Prof :Thumbs-up

The ali on the diff I sanded by hand as best I could and primed and painted with plasticote.  I used this as I know people have used it on cam covers to good effect so hopefully it will be fine.  The steel side I got it as clean as I could and brushed black hammerite on - it may be better to get some of that \'por15\' stuff (I cant remember if thats the name, but I know you said you where going to use it for your new project :) )

I\'m off to a motorfactors soon as im building up a list of things I need now like brake pads, engine, diff & gearbox oil :)
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Post by: nic3s on January 08, 2012, 10:00:20 PM
haha first update in nearly 3 years :D
 
I thought FD and FC diffs were different sizes?
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Post by: Prof on January 08, 2012, 10:26:11 PM
Quote from: Ricco_04;805666
I\'m off to a motorfactors soon as im building up a list of things I need now like brake pads, engine, diff & gearbox oil :)

It always suprised me how much the lubes end up costing, and things like brakes and tyres - but it\'s not worth skimping.  I\'ve no idea how much the diff takes, but I used the best part of 3 of the standard size bottles to fill a gearbox up !
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Post by: Brett on January 09, 2012, 02:10:03 AM
Finally, an update! :D

Great to see this is still ongoing :)  You still living in same area?
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Post by: Skifledanabit on January 09, 2012, 04:06:09 AM
just read through all 11 pages, I\'m impressed, very impressed, makes me want to knuckle down and do my car now.
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 10, 2012, 09:54:48 PM
Quote from: Skifledanabit;805697
just read through all 11 pages, I\'m impressed, very impressed, makes me want to knuckle down and do my car now.


Cheers :guinness  Although as always it looks far batter in pictures than it does in reality!!

Cant wait for the garage to get finished so I can get it down there and get stuck into the bodywork too :)
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 10, 2012, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: nic3s;805670
haha first update in nearly 3 years :D
 
I thought FD and FC diffs were different sizes?


I never even looked at the date, cant believe it has been that long! I think the main reason is there is always something better that needs doing (coupled with the fact that once it was ready it would start to cost even more!! fuel, tax, mot\'s etc! :o )
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 10, 2012, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: Prof;805677
It always suprised me how much the lubes end up costing, and things like brakes and tyres - but it\'s not worth skimping.  I\'ve no idea how much the diff takes, but I used the best part of 3 of the standard size bottles to fill a gearbox up !


Yeah and every time you go to get a load you cant believe how much more they cost than last time!!

I need to have a look at the manual to see what grades of oil I need and how much - almost sounds like I am getting ready to turn the key and see what blows up.......I mean happens! :Hammer  its still a way away from where it needs to be.  

Bodywork for one - it has the flakey paint syndrome.  Maybe I should get it on the road without a respray with it looking a little ratty, everytime it goes above 50 the paint will peel off and make it look like its snowing! :rollin
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Post by: m1tch on January 10, 2012, 10:00:19 PM
Quote from: Prof;805677
It always suprised me how much the lubes end up costing, and things like brakes and tyres - but it\'s not worth skimping.  I\'ve no idea how much the diff takes, but I used the best part of 3 of the standard size bottles to fill a gearbox up !

The gearbox was filled up by using the patented \'mitch isn\'t silly, he is going to pipe it via a tube through the engine bay to the gearbox and not try and squish a bottle under the car\' method :rolleyes:
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 10, 2012, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: Brett;805692
Finally, an update! :D

Great to see this is still ongoing :)  You still living in same area?


Yeah, only moved a few miles away.  Not in the sticks now and closer to civilisation!  It has cut the journey to Pod and Silverstone down by a few minutes!! :chat

Im going to see if I can find some of the photos I was lacking now.....
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Post by: Ricco_04 on January 10, 2012, 10:27:49 PM
Ok so stripped the old suspension down, cleaned it all up with a shotblaster & got it all painted.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/IMG00045-20101031-1320.jpg)

Ordered some brake lines, flare kit & fittings (also a small pipe bender but it was rubbish!).  Redone all the brake lines under the car, last 2 lines to do where these :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/IMG00155-20110108-2121.jpg)

Got the subframe and all the gubbins powdercoaded (some where painted instead)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/IMG00159-20110109-1725.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/IMG00161-20110109-1732.jpg)

And fitted :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/Picture121.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/Picture122.jpg)

Engine bay was looking like this :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/IMG00723-20110911-1706.jpg)

And was lacking this (not fully built in this picture!)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/IMG00722-20110911-1704.jpg)

so to rectify the situation I ended up buying this :

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b10/effazef/Project%20TII/IMG00854-20111112-1621.jpg)

There is a bit more done than that but the other photos are on my phone (engine is in and mated up to box aswell)

Thanks for looking :wave
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Post by: B.Martin on January 11, 2012, 08:09:07 AM
Awesome stuff dude, good job on the painted stuff :D
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Post by: Ricco_04 on February 10, 2013, 08:55:37 PM
Thought I would stop by this olllldddddddddd post and say hi!! :chat

So another year gone by since the last update but im pleased to say the engine bay is 99% done.  Engine & oil are in etc.  I have transported the car to my garage (as it was at my parents house before) and it now sits next to my FD (Which is now up on stands while I decide what to do with her :()

To get it transported ment getting it rolling so thats all done too! In fact I slung the battery on from the FD today just to see what happens, fully expecting a fuse or 2 to pop :evillaugh  I was very surprised to test loads of items out and they where all working (all washer motors, both wiper motors, interior lights, dash lights, sunroof motor (although rood was stuck in place) starter motor and some other things)

So was quite excited to see it hadn\'t given up yet :chat

Going to fill her up with coolant & stick in some fuel, check for leaks and try firing her up :)

Still exterior bodywork to do and the inevitable fault finding but just wanted to say in happy!! :driving
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Post by: Prof on February 11, 2013, 08:00:52 AM
I\'m loving your work !
 
This is going to be such a clean car when it\'s all done. :cheers
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Post by: yasiryassin on February 11, 2013, 09:24:32 AM
class build, would love to do this to my car.
anyways, just incase your still wondering about the dtss:

http://www.mazdatrix.com/faq/rrsteer.htm
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Post by: grinder on February 11, 2013, 06:29:27 PM
the pics look superb , im liking the red and white theme , im trying for a blue and white one on mine

The red magnacor leads just ruin mine , might need to pull the blue ones off the JDM one i have on the lawn :D

I wish i could get to most of the underside of mine to spray it up , but i would need to remove that many parts , i would end up what you are doing ! LOL
Title: TII - Comments please
Post by: Ricco_04 on February 12, 2013, 10:44:54 PM
Cheers all!

It\'s been a shocking amount of time, but while it is in the garage its not costing me any money! (prof : and also stays clean!!! ;))

Definately stu, it always seems like a nice thing to have it looking nice underneath but in the real world its going to start looking messy - enjoy what you have I recon.  Oh yes, get the blue leads on it, will all look nice and co-ordinated (I saw your pics, painting looks good :))

Good link for the DTSS.  I had some eliminators for them but after a \'problem\' I sourced a replacement rear underside which have the stock bushes in.

The car does have a few poly bushes on it now (2 in the front a arms and 4 for both ARB\'s.)  I would like to get 4 more for the front drop links in the future - either that or make them and while im at it can do some for the rear subframe and the gearbox, but thats all for the future!
Title: TII - Comments please
Post by: grinder on February 13, 2013, 07:44:32 AM
i know what you mean about it looking good underneath .. thing is you cant see it ! LOL

i had some welding done on mine a few months back , so i primed and sprayed the inside white just to match the rest , but then put the carpets back so you cant even see it .. but i know its white under there :D

i have some poly bushes in the garage ( bought years ago ) i just have no idea where they go :(

out of interest , what have you painted the underside with ? Is it just white paint or is it white stone chip ??
Title: TII - Comments please
Post by: Prof on February 13, 2013, 08:47:11 AM
Quote from: grinder;850476
i know what you mean about it looking good underneath .. thing is you cant see it ! LOL
 
i had some welding done on mine a few months back , so i primed and sprayed the inside white just to match the rest , but then put the carpets back so you cant even see it .. but i know its white under there :D
 
i have some poly bushes in the garage ( bought years ago ) i just have no idea where they go :(
 
out of interest , what have you painted the underside with ? Is it just white paint or is it white stone chip ??

 
Stu - just post up some piccies on another thread - I can probably identify what the bushes are for.
Title: TII - Comments please
Post by: grinder on February 13, 2013, 06:29:07 PM
i will dig them out one day and have take some pics - cheers dave
Title: TII - Comments please
Post by: Garath on September 21, 2013, 07:23:00 PM
This looks amazing, I\'ve just read the whole thread, excellent work, how is the car coming on now?