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Cars by Model Type => 3rd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: Glenn Butcher on August 24, 2005, 03:36:17 PM

Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Glenn Butcher on August 24, 2005, 03:36:17 PM
This Thread is to publish your 1/4 mile achievements with Stock Twins.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 25, 2005, 10:10:05 AM
PositionDriverTime (s)Speed (mph)60ft (s)DateVenueBHP*
1sdminus12.0117?2006-10-XXJS:POD?
2Osen12.54112.472.1??:Sweden?:?
3M@r]{12.5561142.001?RSIV:POD?:?
4Shaq12.731122.12005-05-30RSII:SCR279:RW
5Tintin12.8098110.642.12992007-08-11RSIV:POD317.3:RW
6Warthog12.83112.732.02005-09-03T&T:POD389.2:RW
7stuart wizy12.8831082.0142005-10-02?:SCR280:RW
8Donato12.951091.9832005-05-30RSII:SCR300:RW
9ScuttleRX12.96n/a?2005-07-31ECE:BWP305:F
10Rixio13.03112?2006-05-29RSII:POD316:RW
11Marky_B13.032107.152.0112005-10-09JS:POD269.3:RW
12mikeyh13.05109.2????:?
13bobster13.08110.28??RSI:SCR?:?
14andysmee13.2650104.411.98392007-08-11RSIV:POD284:RW
15shaunwil13.28112.512.2042006-05-29RSIII:POD321:H
16rx-paul13.311081.8992006-05-29RSIII:POD?:?
17Christopher13.42108???:POD287:RW
18davegttph113.42105.742.1912006-05-29RSIII:POD?
19shaunwil13.53412108.072.2492005-05-30RSII:SCR300:RW
20m4rdx13.6??2007-08-11RSIV:POD?
21jonny13.647100.262.1072005-10-09JS:POD?
22Sy.13.653103.012.187?USC:POD?
23Kieron13.676104.142.2442005-08-21RWYB:POD283.5:RW
24andrewrx713.73102.942.2042005-10-09JS:POD280:F

* BHP can be measured at either the RW (rear wheels), H (hubs) or F (fly wheel).

Rules

1. Must be a twin-rotary engine. No triple\'s, quads or piston conversions.
2. Must have original twin-turbo\'s, but they can be uprated e.g. enlarged wastegate, 360 degrees thrust bearings.
3. Must be street legal.
4. The driver must be the owner.

All other modifications are allowed e.g. engine porting, uprated boost etc.

Post your details on this thread and they will get fed back into this table.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: fro on August 25, 2005, 10:17:15 AM
nice one :)

60ft time would be a good idea too (let\'s see who\'s the demon launcher) :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 25, 2005, 10:40:54 AM
Only way I could think of doing it. Thanks Chris.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kevint on August 25, 2005, 10:40:56 AM
Quote from: chrisBoid
Could a mod move this to be the first post please?


Done

Kevin
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 25, 2005, 10:43:19 AM
At the same time, cool, multi modding ;-)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 25, 2005, 10:51:44 AM
I can\'t edit the table now though :(
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 25, 2005, 11:00:02 AM
Edited to move table to top of page.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Alex on August 25, 2005, 11:08:22 AM
Thought this might be a useful little addition to this thread.  It calculates your theoretical 0-60 time from the values off the timing slip.  Might be interesting to add in.

http://www.markviii.org/~nightsky/sixty.htm

Cheers

AL.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on August 25, 2005, 11:15:01 AM
can you stick me on there please

12.95 @ 109 mph 60ft - 1.983  :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TonyBlair on August 25, 2005, 11:43:11 AM
Guess I need to actually have a go on the 1/4 so I can at least get a number to work on.   :3gears-rh

When\'s the next event?

Cheers
Jon
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: babz_audio on August 25, 2005, 12:13:12 PM
Need to get Faheem to run a 1/4 mile in his FD cus that is very quick for stock twins, Wav knows that it is quick as he rebuilt the car  :D

if anyone knows it, its the montego Blue FD with Volk Racing wheels on it and Re:A front bumper, very very nice indeed  :yes
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 25, 2005, 12:26:59 PM
Quote from: Donato
can you stick me on there please

12.95 @ 109 mph 60ft - 1.983  :D


Done, you\'re current leader of 60ft time ;)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on August 25, 2005, 12:38:28 PM
Quote from: chrisBoid
Done, you\'re current leader of 60ft time ;)

Mods, we need to sort this thread so the table is at the top.
Do we delete the whole thread, start a new one with a single post saying what the thread is about, then I can post this table, so at least it will be near the top.
Or give me permission to start a new thread in this section?


Cheers Chris

i have edited the first post to have the new table, we can just do that everytime a new time is posted mate.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 25, 2005, 12:44:25 PM
How about this: -

1) Edit post 1 just to say "This Thread is to publish your 1/4 mile achievements with Stock Twins."
2) Delete posts 2-5.

This will put my earliest post 2nd in the list and I can put the table in there and edit it at will.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on August 25, 2005, 12:53:39 PM
Quote from: chrisBoid
How about this: -

1) Edit post 1 just to say "This Thread is to publish your 1/4 mile achievements with Stock Twins."
2) Delete posts 2-5.

This will put my earliest post 2nd in the list and I can put the table in there and edit it at will.


erm, i went to do that but if you look at the first post you will see i made a bit of a mess of it, have PM\'d Glenn as i cant sort it either... :confused: hopefully he will be able to and i will just not touch this again before i end up turning the whole thread into a piece of modern art... :o
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 25, 2005, 01:00:20 PM
You can do it :)

In the post as follows, delete the stuff in bold: -

This Thread is to publish your 1/4 mile achievements with Stock Twins.<br />
<table class="tborder" border="1"><tr class="thead"<br />
<br />
><td><b>Position</b></td><td><b>Driver</b></td><td><b>Time (s)<br />
<br />
Last updated 2005-08-25 12:23</div><br />
<u>Rules</u>
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on August 25, 2005, 01:09:21 PM
Done, this begs the question as to why im a mod and you aint mate!! Thanks for that, will move the other posts so you can have your post 2nd...
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on August 25, 2005, 01:13:11 PM
Thats it ready for you Chris. Im off to break another part of the forum now... :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 25, 2005, 01:15:44 PM
Good work matey :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Glenn Butcher on August 25, 2005, 01:20:58 PM
What about street legal drag tyres?

To be honest I would very much doubt if you could get into the 11\'s on street tyres. Street legal drag tyres - yes.

.btw - My opinion......I don\'t think it should be an issue about running slicks.  We are aiming for the fastest E.T. - slicks will help you do this faster.  Will also help you break things faster - but HEY, that\'s what competition does :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TonyBlair on August 25, 2005, 01:21:18 PM
Good effort you two. Reputation points duly awarded.   :yes

Cheers
Jon
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TonyBlair on August 25, 2005, 01:24:23 PM
Quote from: Glenn Butcher
What about street legal drag tyres?


Fair point. Perhaps we should edit the rules to just say "Must be street legal, including tyres - street legal dray tyres accepted".

Thoughts, opinions people?...

Cheers
Jon
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 25, 2005, 01:24:53 PM
Quote from: Glenn Butcher
What about street legal drag tyres?

To be honest I would very much doubt if you could get into the 11\'s on street tyres. Street legal drag tyres - yes.

.btw - My opinion......I don\'t think it should be an issue about running slicks.  We are aiming for the fastest E.T. - slicks will help you do this faster.  Will also help you break things faster - but HEY, that\'s what competition does :)


Glenn : I agree, and I\'m pretty sure most other people will as well - it was just down to the wording.  I\'ve updated the rules to state just "street legal".
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on August 25, 2005, 01:52:29 PM
yeah, i like that idea, mmmm more money...  :rollin
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 25, 2005, 02:48:47 PM
I would add slicks then as street legal is without slicks, slicks are not legal on rd, and it will stop a million posts asking if ok. added fuel as that will get asked a million times as well.

All other modifications are allowed e.g. engine porting, uprated boost, slicks & fuel, etc

Up to you guys?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Glenn Butcher on August 25, 2005, 02:53:12 PM
Yes Gary - people will naturally want to get the better ET\'s, this is simply covered by the type of tyre run on the car - make this clear in the table (Tyre Type).

In Oz, it is kind of going back the other way now - people are trying to see what times they can achieve on the narrower tyre (still slicks though).  Thread here makes for good reading: http://ausrotary.dntinternet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46604
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 25, 2005, 05:25:17 PM
It depends on the aim, do we want to stay street legal which puts a natural cap on the amount of money / development a person can do and hence keep the field competetive?  Or is it a do what ever you can get away with?

I\'m confused about the road legality of slicks.  There are such things as road legal slicks right?  Hoosiers and the like?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: MikeLMR on August 25, 2005, 05:44:32 PM
Its all a bit up in the air about tyres and rallying at the moment but its starting to look like its E marked tyres only for the road unless you are actually competing on a road section of an event at that specific time.

Someone has recently been booked for 4 ilegal tyres on the way to a sprint as they had for competition use only on sidewall even though they had perfectly legal tread depth and pattern (unlike M/T street ET\'s and the like) So the question of road legal really is a very large grey area !
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TonyBlair on August 25, 2005, 05:45:31 PM
I think the idea of putting a "natural cap" on the rules is important. Otherwise we may as well just have the one table in 1/4 section with all the times - as there is right now.

I think the purpose of this second table should be mainly for the average joe\'s of us who don\'t have an RX7 simply for drag/track racing.

lets face it - none of us daily drivers in our stock\'ish cars are going to get anywhere close to Geoffs 1/4 time (no offence meant to the guys running twins that are actually high up in that table). But if we have a seperate table with rules the exclude the big monsters then we have a better ground to compete on, and therefore with try harder to achieve better times.

My two pence worth...

Cheers
Jon
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on August 25, 2005, 06:12:32 PM
I would agree. Stick with the road leagl tires. If anthing to safe guard transmission components

Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: bnaellis on August 25, 2005, 06:16:32 PM
In general tyres manufactured outside eu don\'t have a emark on.
When vehicle go through sva for european type apporval an e mark is not needed as long as the tyres has load rating and speed rating then they are deem road legal and meet european type approval. If it has only of these then a letter from manufacturer is need confirming that they tyre meets european standards. Obviously it must also have normal tread depth and width etc.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on August 25, 2005, 06:18:04 PM
true, plus works out cheaper to try and get closer to the top. Oh, my 60ft is 2.249, not very good !

How many people are going on the 3rd to santa pod ????

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on August 25, 2005, 06:20:04 PM
The local tire man near me said that to be road legal they require a tread wear marker

Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: bnaellis on August 25, 2005, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: shaunwil
true, plus works out cheaper to try and get closer to the top. Oh, my 60ft is 2.249, not very good !

How many people are going on the 3rd to santa pod ????

Shaun



Yep :3gears-rh
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 25, 2005, 10:00:06 PM
Quote from: shaunwil
true, plus works out cheaper to try and get closer to the top. Oh, my 60ft is 2.249, not very good !

How many people are going on the 3rd to santa pod ????

Shaun


Updated :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on August 25, 2005, 10:03:50 PM
On the 12.6 time i cut a 2.1 sec 60 ft. but later on a differant day a 1.89 sec 60ft to the detriment of my clutch and fly wheel

Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 25, 2005, 10:13:42 PM
Quote from: sdminus
On the 12.6 time i cut a 2.1 sec 60 ft. but later on a differant day a 1.89 sec 60ft to the detriment of my clutch and fly wheel

Scott


Updated, I assume you wanted your 12.6 time as your official entry :)

Donato still hangs onto the 60ft lead, but you have the 1/4 mile time and top speed.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on August 25, 2005, 10:19:48 PM
Yeah go with that for now. I wont be going no quicker or at all till i fix it and finish all this work i got on. (nitemare) Cant beat customers off with a stick at the mo. This country needs more electricians LOL

Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 25, 2005, 10:30:18 PM
It has occurred to me that a "Date" and "Venue" would be useful information so if you\'ve got it, post the details.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on August 25, 2005, 10:47:58 PM
Its odd, I had a 13.70 second at 110.12mph on the same day with a 2.564 60ft !

Trouble was it was all done on normal uk road tyres, potenza p5\'s, 255 at the standard 32psi :eek. So isn\'t too bad !

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on August 25, 2005, 11:03:21 PM
Chris--0-60 = 2.1
         et    = 112.09
         29/05/05 @ RS11. :cheers
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 25, 2005, 11:10:41 PM
I have only voiced my opinion, and as Im not in it, its for you guys to make your minds up as to what rules you want.
In the times that I have run, I have never run on slicks, mainly because my aim was to see how fast my street car was, and as I will never race a farrari or poker on slicks, Ive never seen the point, if I was playing with the unlimited, mods & power brigade I naturally would want all the help I could get. I have found it far more important to learn how to drive your car, than simply bolt on all the goodies. As this is a non tuner-limited budget bit of fun, just go out and play with the car you have and increase the power and mods as you improve your times. Like a gradual learning process.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on August 25, 2005, 11:13:56 PM
Well said. :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 25, 2005, 11:20:27 PM
Its just like golf, or skiing. Get the best gear and play like crap, as it takes a certain amount of expertise to use the equipment.
Jump in a top fuel dragcar, and when you fail with a miserable time, you wont know what to pin point it on, there will be so many factors. Start with a stock car and as you learn to feel for the car, you will know were your strenghts and weaknesses are, and you can build on that, until you are using that top fueler properly.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 25, 2005, 11:21:22 PM
Grasshopper :-)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 25, 2005, 11:28:09 PM
Quote from: Warthog
Chris--0-60 = 2.1
         et    = 112.09
         29/05/05 @ RS11. :cheers


Updated, there\'s not much in it :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on August 25, 2005, 11:31:40 PM
Sorry Chris I should have added it\'s 12.92 . :wave
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 08:09:18 AM
Quote from: Warthog
Sorry Chris I should have added it\'s 12.92 . :wave


Updated, even closer now!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on August 26, 2005, 09:18:47 AM
Quote from: TonyBlair
I think the idea of putting a "natural cap" on the rules is important. Otherwise we may as well just have the one table in 1/4 section with all the times - as there is right now.

I think the purpose of this second table should be mainly for the average joe\'s of us who don\'t have an RX7 simply for drag/track racing.

lets face it - none of us daily drivers in our stock\'ish cars are going to get anywhere close to Geoffs 1/4 time (no offence meant to the guys running twins that are actually high up in that table). But if we have a seperate table with rules the exclude the big monsters then we have a better ground to compete on, and therefore with try harder to achieve better times.

My two pence worth...

Cheers
Jon



Great idea, full marks to everyone who is getting this off the ground!

But realistically, how many people have the cars to actually compete at the top of the table? Probably not many!! A handful at most? Not sure....

As a suggestion to go along with Mr Blairs post, to maybe expand on this idea, why not split this into, say 3 or 4 groups, dependant on the cars power? Say upto 300horses, then 300-350, 350-400, and then anything above? Would this even the competition out a little more? Would this give something for everyone to aim for, within each group, rather than one ultimate goal which most of us won\'t get anywhere near? Just a thought....  :chat  or  :flamed  ?!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 09:22:34 AM
I think once there are enough competitors and the table fills out a bit, we can see what the spread is and look to break it up from there.
At the moment there is best 1/4 mile time, best top speed and best 60ft time to play for.  As it stands, all the honours don\'t belong to the driver positioned first.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on August 26, 2005, 09:30:59 AM
Quote from: chrisBoid
I think once there are enough competitors and the table fills out a bit, we can see what the spread is and look to break it up from there.
At the moment there is best 1/4 mile time, best top speed and best 60ft time to play for.  As it stands, all the honours don\'t belong to the driver positioned first.


Fair enough. That implies we should be submitting any and all attempts!  I know I\'m standard, and am nowhere near those times from my one attempt, and never will be though!  :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on August 26, 2005, 09:35:19 AM
Cool. good thread :D

my 0-60ft time was 2.077 which I thought was pretty good, still only managed a 13.529 SQM @ 99.81mph
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 26, 2005, 09:35:57 AM
Think a short short term solution is to add another table for bhp so guys can compare. Also so as this does not become too much hard work for Chris. limit the table to 10 or 20, as if you look at the 1/4 times it gets big and messy, and everyone on this table is allowed on the other. Unless we eventually make the other table for single turbo cars, making Glens life easier.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on August 26, 2005, 09:40:52 AM
Ok well for info Im running 325bhp... Hoping to get a go at rotorstock3 cause I know Shakespeares strip is definately stickier than the pod :)

out of interest though How come people are pulling about 110mph on their runs but Im only hitting about 100....? yet still getting a respectable time ish
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 09:43:11 AM
Quote from: davegttph1
Cool. good thread :D

my 0-60ft time was 2.077 which I thought was pretty good, still only managed a 13.529 SQM @ 99.81mph


Added, what does "SQM" mean?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 09:46:44 AM
Quote from: g11ary
Think a short short term solution is to add another table for bhp so guys can compare. Also so as this does not become too much hard work for Chris. limit the table to 10 or 20, as if you look at the 1/4 times it gets big and messy, and everyone on this table is allowed on the other. Unless we eventually make the other table for single turbo cars, making Glens life easier.


You make a good point Gary.  As the table grows, so does the complexity of updating it - I\'m willing to manage it but I know that a better solution is needed.  It may be time for me to investigate PHP.  I see one database of details which can be sorted and grouped in many different ways to provide sub-tables e.g. standard twins etc.  Oh if only we had a Java web container available! :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 09:49:00 AM
With regards to splitting it up into bhp groups, we fall into the currently unsolved problem of engine, hub, dyno values and how they compare.  I think we all agreed that the values were good from a continous tuning point of view but they cannot be used for comparison.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on August 26, 2005, 09:52:25 AM
SQM = Standing Quarter Mile :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TonyBlair on August 26, 2005, 10:05:46 AM
Perhaps we leave BHP out of the table for now... otherwise we get the problem of whether it\'s fwbhp or rwbhp?

Cheers
Jon
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 26, 2005, 10:11:14 AM
Most always quote fly, if not  arough conversion, as its for comparison, as you is hit what times with roughly what power, will also show the cars capability and the drives ;-) You may see a car in position 4 with 100 bhp more than others, so you know that the drive needs more practise, and it will show guys that are less powered thay have a chance at getting there cars up the board with good practise and driving.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on August 26, 2005, 10:14:07 AM
Unless we all get on the rollers at the same place i dont think it will be an accurate comparison...
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 26, 2005, 10:14:50 AM
We have to remember that although we all like a bit of competition, its done for fun and as a rough guide as to what can be done with what.
As an after thought, is there a way that an extra table with a htperlink to either a web site or page on MRC where people have a page on there car. So for instance some members have in the members section a page on there prides, in there would be detailed spec so as not to bog this page down with techy stuff and those interested on how they achieved times could have a butchers.
Also only available to members ;-)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on August 26, 2005, 10:16:43 AM
Great idea Garry.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 26, 2005, 10:17:15 AM
It might also be fair if only owner is allowed to drive the car, as its a membership/mrc rivalry, and not how can get someone to drive there car faster.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: g11ary

As an after thought, is there a way that an extra table with a htperlink to either a web site or page on MRC where people have a page on there car. So for instance some members have in the members section a page on there prides, in there would be detailed spec so as not to bog this page down with techy stuff and those interested on how they achieved times could have a butchers.
Also only available to members ;-)


Great idea!  Added to the table.  Unfortunately, so far Donato is the only one with an entry in the "Members Ride" section :(
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 26, 2005, 10:27:19 AM
Well now all those non members simply have to join mrc and start writing there page in the members section.
I thought you had a section and Kieron?
Just had a quick look. There several Rides in the members section, they may just have to update there mods.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on August 26, 2005, 10:29:59 AM
I intend on joining :D although Im waiting on your renewal dates of January ;)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 26, 2005, 10:31:35 AM
You could join now as MRC are giving the rest of the yr free, so membership would in effect be 15 months :-)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on August 26, 2005, 10:33:09 AM
Thanks :) whats the joining fee?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 26, 2005, 10:36:59 AM
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/shop/index.php?cPath=1

£25 online shop link above

Go on my son, you know it makes sence ;-)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on August 26, 2005, 10:47:44 AM
A point that Andrew raised i think may need peoples views. UK spec FD\'s cannot de-cat, whereas imports can. Do we have two tables, UK spec, Import. Just to make it balanced. :cool
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 26, 2005, 10:50:53 AM
Think you have to draw the line somewhere.
You should be able to decat anything, but Andrew is running a spirit R, so I can understand him wanting to keep it totally standard. Stock cars are not going to push boundries, the main aim of this light competition.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 10:53:46 AM
Quote from: Warthog
A point that Andrew raised i think may need peoples views. UK spec FD\'s cannot de-cat, whereas imports can. Do we have two tables, UK spec, Import. Just to make it balanced. :cool


Depends if it becomes a big issue.  We have to draw the line somewhere otherwise the extreme would be hundreds of tables with just one person in each :)

I think it\'s a case of crossing that bridge when(if) we come to it.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 10:55:22 AM
Quote from: g11ary
You should be able to decat anything, but Andrew is running a spirit R, so I can understand him wanting to keep it totally standard.


Yeah, you can hear a butterfly flap it\'s wings when his Spirit R takes off, so smooooth :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on August 26, 2005, 10:56:05 AM
God Im feeling flush this week. Just signed up for my membership :cool:
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TonyBlair on August 26, 2005, 10:56:07 AM
Quote from: g11ary
It might also be fair if only owner is allowed to drive the car, as its a membership/mrc rivalry, and not how can get someone to drive there car faster.


I think this would be a good rule to add. Basically the times you post must have been made by you i.e. the car owner, not a professional driver.

Anyone else keen on this idea?

Cheers
Jon
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on August 26, 2005, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: chrisBoid
Yeah, you can hear a butterfly flap it\'s wings when his Spirit R takes off, so smooooth :)


Unless its infront, then its more like a splat!!  :rollin

(as in the pic from Brunters......with mine and Ants white cars! Poor bugs!  :) )
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: TonyBlair
I think this would be a good rule to add. Basically the times you post must have been made by you i.e. the car owner, not a professional driver.

Anyone else keen on this idea?

Cheers
Jon


I think we\'d all be happy with that as it would help keep the competition good natured and not too serious.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TonyBlair on August 26, 2005, 11:25:56 AM
I think everyone should bung Chris some good reputation points for maintaining the table.   :cheers
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on August 26, 2005, 11:27:05 AM
Quote from: g11ary
Most always quote fly, if not  arough conversion, as its for comparison, as you is hit what times with roughly what power, will also show the cars capability and the drives ;-) You may see a car in position 4 with 100 bhp more than others, so you know that the drive needs more practise, and it will show guys that are less powered thay have a chance at getting there cars up the board with good practise and driving.


Just thinking about this again - OK,maybe not several tables or groups, but I think a simple column of estimated fwhp may be of use. Yes I know they are estimated  figures, but this is a fun table etc and (hopefully) not too serious! It makes the times and cars a bit more transparent when everyone can see what they are up against! Again, emphasis on "estimated"..... we all know the "not accurate" stories, but it gives a ball park figure.  :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on August 26, 2005, 11:27:55 AM
I dont mind, Im just happy Im not bottom of the table :D lol
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 12:07:00 PM
I see the merits of adding a bhp, but the converting between values has always put me off.

If we can decide on rough conversion values then that will be easier.

Fly -> Fly = no conversion needed
Hub -> Fly = ???
Wheel -> Fly = Wheel + 18%?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on August 26, 2005, 12:21:11 PM
Quote from: chrisBoid
I see the merits of adding a bhp, but the converting between values has always put me off.

If we can decide on rough conversion values then that will be easier.

Fly -> Fly = no conversion needed
Hub -> Fly = ???
Wheel -> Fly = Wheel + 18%?


Like I said, use it a rough guideline, it doesn\'t really need to be accurate. Just makes it a bit clearer whether someone is running 250 or 350!
I\'ve read on various forums, that tranny loss is around 50hp?
If you want to go a % route, then I might also say, that if you go with an 18% loss, divide the wheel number by 0.82 (wheel + 18% gives the wrong result).

Keep it simple, and don\'t take it too seriously!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 12:36:52 PM
Sorry, I meant to say
Wheel -> Fly = Wheel + (18% of Wheel)

Hmmm, I think converting is just too tricky and controversial.  How about we put the bhp figures in as they are known e.g.: -

300rw
300h
300fw

That way the reader can make up their own minds.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on August 26, 2005, 12:39:01 PM
Sounds fair. Mine is 300rw
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on August 26, 2005, 12:39:31 PM
Quote from: chrisBoid
Sorry, I meant to say
Wheel -> Fly = Wheel + (18% of Wheel)

Hmmm, I think converting is just too tricky and controversial.  How about we put the bhp figures in as they are known e.g.: -

300rw
300h
300fw

That way the reader can make up their own minds.


 :yes Would be the simplest!  Thumbs up from me!  Again, simply there as a guide!   :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Glenn Butcher on August 26, 2005, 01:25:47 PM
:) - Chris, well done mate.  If you do something in PHP or similar, please keep in mind the main table - as your table here gets bigger it is just more and more of a pain to work with.

I actually had the large table in Excel, but it won\'t convert properly to HTML when put into the Forum.

Therefore I stuck with doing it in dreamweaver and copying the HTML in (has to be done in a certain way) - real pain!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 01:33:49 PM
Quote from: Donato
Sounds fair. Mine is 300rw


Updated :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on August 26, 2005, 01:37:02 PM
Quote from: chrisBoid
Updated :)


Cheers mate, i never thought just to do it myself! i have just put in the date and venue...
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on August 26, 2005, 01:41:37 PM
Quote from: Glenn Butcher
:) - Chris, well done mate.  If you do something in PHP or similar, please keep in mind the main table - as your table here gets bigger it is just more and more of a pain to work with.

I actually had the large table in Excel, but it won\'t convert properly to HTML when put into the Forum.

Therefore I stuck with doing it in dreamweaver and copying the HTML in (has to be done in a certain way) - real pain!


I put something similar on another thread.

Would a simple alternative be to compile all the data in Excel, then screen capture the table, save it as a jpeg and upload the picture? I\'ve done it this way on another forum, with a table, and it is simple, but effective. No HTML etc to worry about.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on August 26, 2005, 01:47:40 PM
Since the line in the first thread is now achievements with stock twins,  :D  Can I volunteer for the wooden spoon??  :D

Just found my times.

1st ever attempt at this kind thing:

13.88 @ 103.79, May 05 @ Bruntingthorpe, 280fwhp, 60ft - no idea!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on August 26, 2005, 02:05:50 PM
Date and venue for my run was 16.07.2005 at the pod :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on August 26, 2005, 02:17:36 PM
Can someone put my times in please :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on August 26, 2005, 02:22:20 PM
Mine is basically 300:RW and was done at RS2 this year !

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: Kieron
Can someone put my times in please :)


Done, I assume your times were on the right?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 26, 2005, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: shaunwil
Mine is basically 300:RW and was done at RS2 this year !

Shaun


Updated :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on August 26, 2005, 03:07:20 PM
Cheers!

If anything, at least my figures can act as a benchmark as "novice + standard spec\'ed FD"!   :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 26, 2005, 03:14:57 PM
but look at your terminal Andy, with practice your stock car could be up near the top.

This is why I think its interesting to have bhp, as well, it shows that its not just grunt that makes you quick.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on August 26, 2005, 03:29:04 PM
blimy andrew... thats a standard car run at 13.8? Ive seen RX7s only pulling 14.7 on the strip. they must be doing something bad. makes my run look bad for 325bhp :(
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on August 26, 2005, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: davegttph1
blimy andrew... thats a standard car run at 13.8? Ive seen RX7s only pulling 14.7 on the strip. they must be doing something bad. makes my run look bad for 325bhp :(


I didn\'t think 13.8 was particularly good. Maybe too much reading on the US forums !  :rollin  They seem to claim all sorts of 13s runs on standard 260(?)hp spec FDs. Am I being a touch on the gullible side then, in assuming that standard FDs should be in the mid-low 13s?  :confused:

Quote from a site I was reading last night:

"Just for the record my bone stock FD ran 3 consecutive 13.5@105mph passes at Lebanon Valley Speedway in Lebanon, NY, right on the border of upstate NY and Mass. This was on stock rubber, no funny gas and about 3/8\\\'s tank of fuel. The best ET of the day was a 13.51@105.4mph. This was achieved by going around the burnout box, dry scrubbing the tires, taching 4500-4700 and slipping the clutch for approx the first 50 feet or so and then releasing the clutch all the way. This resulted in 1.88 60\\\' times (yes it is possible), which was the key to the low ET. The 1-2 shift was done with a psuedo-powershift and the rest of the gear changes were done by lifting the throttle 75% between shifts. That was the key to the trap speed "

Are the yanks just more brutal on their cars, or just better at drag stripping them??
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on August 26, 2005, 03:51:58 PM
Quote from: g11ary
but look at your terminal Andy, with practice your stock car could be up near the top.


I hope to have a go at Santa Pod, esp as I just live down the road, its not exactly a long journey! It would be nice to see if I can indeed improve!

Quote from: g11ary
This is why I think its interesting to have bhp, as well, it shows that its not just grunt that makes you quick.


Exactly. As we said above, it puts results a bit more into perspective.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on August 26, 2005, 03:53:01 PM
Ive "heard" dont quote me on it, but from numerous threads from the quarter mile kings (reno 5 owners boards ;) ) that the US quarter mile is shorter than that of the UK... dunno how you work that out but its definately been brought up numerous times!!!!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Ada7 on August 26, 2005, 03:55:44 PM
Guess i should be trying to get my car up the strip at some point. :)

Adam
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TonyBlair on August 26, 2005, 04:01:41 PM
Chris, I\'m loving the table! Hyperlinks to the venues and to the owners cars, in the "members section". Top quality!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on August 26, 2005, 05:05:46 PM
Right, time to make the shopping list out..................

better clutch, gearbox and diff brace, plus other goodies !

I\'ll not be at the 3rd sept meet, have got IOM weekend after and can\'t risk killing my clucth completely. I will be coming to have a go v. soon though !

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on August 26, 2005, 05:15:29 PM
Cant see it, its a universal amount not like a us gallon.
I think they have had better conditions and more importantly lots more practise than us.
We are catching up on rx techy bits but still need lots more practise at the drive stuff, it probably helps that there weather helps keep tyres nice and warm and the tracks open longer.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: MikeLMR on August 26, 2005, 05:22:40 PM
Quote from: davegttph1
Ive "heard" dont quote me on it, but from numerous threads from the quarter mile kings (reno 5 owners boards ;) ) that the US quarter mile is shorter than that of the UK... dunno how you work that out but its definately been brought up numerous times!!!!


its a load of bull ... they hold World championships at Santa pod and SCR so how can it be different  from one country to another :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on August 26, 2005, 05:32:41 PM
Blimey, this has really taken off! First time ive been back on since I started stock twins in the 11\'s thread as ive been on a little holiday.

Can someone put me on the table :)

12.96 @ ? (timing gear at this event didnt show terminals, annoying) East Coast Extreme 31/08/05...bhp on rotorstock mobile dyno 305bhp at the fly
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TonyBlair on August 26, 2005, 05:49:37 PM
Quote from: ScuttleRX
Blimey, this has really taken off!


Wondered when you was going to show your face   ;)  thought it strange that you kick off the thread then not post, despite the large amount of interest.

Have fun on your holiday?

Cheers
Jon
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on August 26, 2005, 06:48:46 PM
I seem to remember SHAQ or somebody running a 12.7 or something in a twin. Where are you son.... Im loving this i can now view pages after page 5..
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on August 26, 2005, 07:01:28 PM
I think alot of the yank quarter times is the availablity of quarter miles too. We have less in the whole contry than 1 state in the us ! Its about time the authorities got their act together and held more drag meets for joe public, then we could do it evey weekend !

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: RobbieRX-7 on August 26, 2005, 07:08:59 PM
And Here Is The Car Everybody Is Talkin About ( I Presume)..the Quickest Stock Twin!!  Congrats Sd Minus!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on August 26, 2005, 07:41:29 PM
Yeah it werent bad cheers Jon, just a couple of days in sunny Brighton (lol, borderline monsoon on the first day!). Had a little luck in the casino, will be put in the \'11 second rex\' fund :D

First time ive seen a pic of your car I think Scott, outside anyways sure ive seen a pic of the engine bay :cool
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on August 26, 2005, 08:04:57 PM
LOL. I got a new one for ya as well which is giving me a bit of a hang over.

If you dont know dont ask!!\\ :yes

Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on August 26, 2005, 08:07:13 PM
ahhh, i better not ask then...unless this is from a couple of weekends ago
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on August 26, 2005, 08:07:48 PM
LOL. You got it son.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on August 26, 2005, 08:30:04 PM
Just put a thread in the members rides bit to link to :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on August 26, 2005, 08:47:00 PM
Quote from: chrisBoid
Done, I assume your times were on the right?


Yeah 866 is me!

(http://carpron.com/gallery/KieronsGT-S/866.jpg)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on August 26, 2005, 10:32:23 PM
yep, don\'t ask !!!!

Shaun
Title: I luv the twin. But......
Post by: eatmyrx7dust on August 26, 2005, 11:07:37 PM
I luved my twin setup..but who wouldnt go single if they had the cash ? :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 27, 2005, 10:02:59 AM
Quote from: ScuttleRX
Blimey, this has really taken off! First time ive been back on since I started stock twins in the 11\'s thread as ive been on a little holiday.

Can someone put me on the table :)

12.96 @ ? (timing gear at this event didnt show terminals, annoying) East Coast Extreme 31/08/05...bhp on rotorstock mobile dyno 305bhp at the fly


Done.  I assumed you meant 2005-07-31.  I can\'t link to http://www.ben****ersparks.com/ for obvious reasons though!  I think that\'s an excellent time with only 305 at the fly.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on August 27, 2005, 10:44:08 AM
I can understand the single turbo upgrade, but at the min i\'m still happy with the twins. Plus the light wallet makes it impossible at the mo ! Plus i want to get it all ready for a big single first then get something nice and big !

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on August 27, 2005, 10:45:14 AM
Oops my run was done on the monday of RS2 !

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on August 27, 2005, 11:15:07 AM
Yes mate, getting a little ahead of myself :) Cheers Chris...im hoping the dyno was a little on the low side as when I had a run on normal boost (which is still above standard boost settings) it showed 272bhp, only 7 above standard which doesnt seem right really :) Well I hope not or its the most expensive 7 bhp going :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on August 27, 2005, 11:23:22 AM
I\'ve found an old slip from RSII, just thought i\'d post it up as its hard to compare without the the 0-60fts and terminal times etc, slightly slower than best time 13.1. Hopefully have a shiny new slip with a better time to show after a trip to the pod on the 4th :)

60ft    2.253
330ft  5.795
660ft  8.667 @ 86.72mph
990ft  11.00
1/4     13.10 @ 113.16mph
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 27, 2005, 11:42:05 AM
Quote from: shaunwil
Oops my run was done on the monday of RS2 !

Shaun


Updated :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on August 27, 2005, 12:55:44 PM
Wheel bhp 378.1. :3gears-lh
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 27, 2005, 11:26:23 PM
Quote from: Warthog
Wheel bhp 378.1. :3gears-lh


Updated :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: John Yorke on August 28, 2005, 09:09:16 AM
Hay Chris

Just a thought, to get a better perspective should you not transfer the data from the main table [other tt 3rd gens].
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 28, 2005, 10:07:30 AM
Quote from: John Yorke
Hay Chris

Just a thought, to get a better perspective should you not transfer the data from the main table [other tt 3rd gens].


You\'re right, ideally all the data would be stored and sourced from one place, but we don\'t have an automated solution for that yet :(

Fow now, I wanted an active participation in this mini \'competition\' we have here.  I could add from the other table but people might not realise they were on it unless they asked to be added.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on August 28, 2005, 08:32:13 PM
Chris, I think you should only add people who ask to be added, afterall its a mini comp so you have to \'enter\'

I\'ve run out o cash till I\'ve sold my MR2 so only way I can get a better time is sort out my 0-60ft this should be fun!!!

I think we should all go to a RWYB @ pod so we can have a mini meet and friendly banter mrc/fduk day out.

I\'ll be going for the test and tune on the 3rd but not running, 4th is the next rwyb but its the same day as trax so shall we all meet up on the sunday 25th? would be good to see what people have done and what times there running on the same day (air temp and track temp) with same timing equipment.

Just a though...
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on August 28, 2005, 08:53:26 PM
sounds a good idea kieron, dont think I can do the 25th though cos I might be going to Weekend at Daves....would be good we could organise something though.

There is an event for jap cars on halloween-ish at shakespear county raceway which I know many people (myself included) rate better than the pod....quite far off but would give people time to tinker :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on August 28, 2005, 09:27:24 PM
http://www.rwyb.com has the dates of when the pod is open for public use, I like avon park better (SCR) too.

Think it would be fun to get us all together and have a sesion where we all run together. does avon do rwyb days?

Anyone interested?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on August 28, 2005, 09:49:13 PM
I\'m up for it, we just need to get a date that everyone can make. :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on August 28, 2005, 10:17:41 PM
I\'m free everyweekend, so I\'m good any time.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on August 29, 2005, 10:01:06 AM
I\'d be up for it after 17th (IOM trackday), but need to get it back in one peice for then too !

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TonyBlair on August 29, 2005, 11:03:07 AM
Chris, why isn\'t your car listed in the table? Have you not been on the 1/4 yet?

Cheers
Jon
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 29, 2005, 01:59:54 PM
Quote from: TonyBlair
Chris, why isn\'t your car listed in the table? Have you not been on the 1/4 yet?

Cheers
Jon


You\'re right, I\'ve not done any 1/4 mile runs, I don\'t think I will until I have sorted out a ton of things, plus I want to head towards track rather than strip, but once it\'s ready, it would be a crime not to!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on August 30, 2005, 06:30:14 PM
Update

283.5rwhp  :d
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 30, 2005, 10:00:15 PM
Quote from: Kieron
Update

283.5rwhp  :d


Updated :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on September 01, 2005, 09:32:14 PM
From the sounds of things I\'ll expect to be updating this table after Sunday 4th.

Don\'t disappoint me!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on September 02, 2005, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: chrisBoid
From the sounds of things I\'ll expect to be updating this table after Sunday 4th.

Don\'t disappoint me!


Hmmm... think I\'ll be disappointing then!  :rolleyes:

Just been checking the Santa Pod RWYB days (live just round the corner, so its the place for me to go, really!), and of those days left in the year, I can\'t do the 4/9 (wedding anniversary! Guess what gets priority!), 25/9 (getting back from holiday), 9/10 (Jap Show - may be brave enough to have a go, but sooooooo busy, and it\'ll be my first time!), 15/10 (night time RWYB - should be good, but I\'m out gigging anyway!), 16/10 + 23/10 + 6/11 - I\'m free! (definately not said in a John Inman wail!)

Looking forward to trying to beat my Brunters time, reckon on room for improvement e.g. lots of spin at the start needs sorting; plus when best to change gear (was basically changing at the chime - torque at these revs is well on the decline, isn\'t it?). Lets hope the ol\' girl holds up!  :)

Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on September 02, 2005, 08:52:27 AM
Experiment with revs, to much right foot and wheel spin, not enough bog down, I used to launch single turbo at 4500 and probably wanted a tad less, and was slipping clutch not stepping off it. Dont change on the buzzer, you hace gone past you peak power at about 6500, so change around 6500/6750.
Just play and have fun, you\'ll find your style of driving.
So there are some advantages to living in Northampton then ;-)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TonyBlair on September 02, 2005, 08:53:16 AM
I\'m not sure when I\'m going to find the time to have a go on the strip either. Plus I\'m a 1/4 virgin - I\'m scared. May have to take a passenger up there with me.  :rolleyes:
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on September 02, 2005, 08:58:38 AM
Quote from: g11ary
Experiment with revs, to much right foot and wheel spin, not enough bog down, I used to launch single turbo at 4500 and probably wanted a tad less, and was slipping clutch not stepping off it. Dont change on the buzzer, you hace gone past you peak power at about 6500, so change around 6500/6750.


At Brunters, first 2 runs were starting with about 3500, and was a bit boggy, so upped to about 5000, then spin, by which time the runs were over! As you say, torque is falling so plan was to try and change at 6.5-7k. In the heat of things and the adrenalin pumping, it will no doubt be hard to concentrate and get everything together!  :rolleyes:

Quote from: g11ary
J
So there are some advantages to living in Northampton then ;-)


Cheeeeeeky!
(But true!  :rollin )
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on September 02, 2005, 09:01:16 AM
Quote from: TonyBlair
I\'m not sure when I\'m going to find the time to have a go on the strip either. Plus I\'m a 1/4 virgin - I\'m scared. May have to take a passenger up there with me.  :rolleyes:

Not a bad idea, always lots of volenteers for that, good idea to go on rwyb days as then its more relaxed than a big meet.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on September 02, 2005, 09:01:50 AM
Hey Gary,

(hope the others don\'t notice the single turbo reference !) what was your best time on the strip then?

Do you still have a go anymore?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on September 02, 2005, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Kieron
Update

283.5rwhp  :d


Nice figure! Is it what you expected?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on September 02, 2005, 09:07:06 AM
Only mentioned single turbo so guys would expect what I say about launching to be slightly different as singles drive differently to twins.
With a TO4E, which these days is a baby turbo I was 12.62 I think, its on the main board.
Not had an fd on the rd for a while, but will be back to try again.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on September 02, 2005, 09:10:03 AM
Its not a bad time for such a small turbo, was the car was extremely well set up, there are much bigger turbos on the board that did not keep up. Again what I keep saying in this thread to all the drag virgins out there, have a go, its not all about power/bhp.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on September 02, 2005, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: andrewrx7
Nice figure! Is it what you expected?


Was expecting about 280 yes  :chat

AFAIK you are not allowed to take a passenger with you on the 1/4! The RWYB days @ pod are unlimited runs for your £15 so loads of time to warm up and cool down and get a fair few runs in, I managed 8 on my last trip :)

Wont be running this sat cos £60 is a wee bit steep (may be persuaded thugh) but I should be getting into high 12s with a proper launch.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on September 02, 2005, 09:46:28 AM
IMO Id suggest NOT changing gears at 6500revs. the limiter is at 8k for a reason ;) for a start you\'ll end up doing more gear changes. If you can cross the finish line in 3rd gear at about 8k revs then you\'ll have saved yourself ALOT of time on the gear shift. Trust me. experimented alot with this. off course it does depend on the car and how much power does drop off but it should be that noticeable....

Think alot more runs are in order for me, Im sure I can better the time :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on September 02, 2005, 09:49:55 AM
I found it better to be in 4th over the line, all the runs I tried to do in 3rd were 13.8ish when in 4th they were 13.6ish.

I was changing gear just before 7500.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on September 02, 2005, 09:55:26 AM
fair enough, when I was changing gear at 7ish I was running about 13.8 too... upped the rev limiter on the PFC and got my best time of the day on the last run :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on September 02, 2005, 10:01:05 AM
If you get on a rolling road you will know exactly when your cars peak power is. Mine is just under 7000 revs so i change about 7200 revs
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on September 02, 2005, 02:28:47 PM
You do loss time changing gear, but you also loss time on the rev limiter, and probably do more damage, you have to expiriment and get a happy medium, personally to stay in 3rd you want a change of diff, or a ported engine that will still have power at that rev band. So I think it will be car dependent, but still say on stockish car change earlier.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: John Yorke on September 02, 2005, 05:24:36 PM
Think you will find 7800 in 3rd is 100ish terminal with a standard diff, to be in the 12\'s using 3rd you would need 8400ish :flamed: not good news I would have thought 4th over the line with some \'slick\' gear changes at the right time would see you there eh Donnato :cool
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on September 02, 2005, 05:36:10 PM
With 110 terminal your well and truely into 4th gear, I think its all about finding the sweet spot that when you change up you get the most torque straight away ! Plus the faster and smoother the change the higher the revs will be kept !

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: John Yorke on September 02, 2005, 05:45:15 PM
Quote from: shaunwil
With 110 terminal your well and truely into 4th gear, I think its all about finding the sweet spot that when you change up you get the most torque straight away ! Plus the faster and smoother the change the higher the revs will be kept !

Shaun


Aint that wot I just said :rollin
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TRex on September 02, 2005, 08:36:57 PM
Just to let you know the time to beat is \'11.86\'....

 Have fun tomorrow........  ;)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: K1HKS arse on September 02, 2005, 09:30:18 PM
Who has run an 11.86 then??????
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on September 02, 2005, 09:32:41 PM
Quote from: TRex
Just to let you know the time to beat is \'11.86\'....

 Have fun tomorrow........  ;)


Stats for the table please!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: t2rew on September 02, 2005, 09:42:16 PM
Quote from: K1HKS arse
Who has run an 11.86 then??????

he did. stock twins
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on September 03, 2005, 12:07:16 AM
Yeah I did hear that,
He was da man.............
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on September 03, 2005, 09:39:20 AM
Mr Yorke, good post I never thought of it like that, must admit I was wondering why I was only seeing 100mph terminal speeds and everyone else is seeing 110 :( ohh well. must mean theres room for improvement ;) :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TonyBlair on September 03, 2005, 09:56:37 AM
Who\'s "he"?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on September 03, 2005, 02:20:43 PM
Quote from: TRex
Just to let you know the time to beat is \'11.86\'....

 Have fun tomorrow........  ;)



I thought you had an FC with a REW engine tho!!!!!!!!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TRex on September 03, 2005, 04:20:06 PM
Quote from: sdminus
I thought you had an FC with a REW engine tho!!!!!!!!

 
 Same as yours with stock(standard) FD twin turbos.

 Whats your point...
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TRex on September 03, 2005, 04:32:06 PM
Oh sorry. Silly me, I just realized..... I only have an FC....   \'Apologise\'\'  :god

 I\'ll be off now...   :3gears-lh
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on September 03, 2005, 05:38:35 PM
I\'ve got no objections to including FC\'s in the table, does anybody else?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: borgue on September 03, 2005, 06:05:59 PM
well thay (fc boys) wernt prepared to let my play with them in my elford in there 100mph terminal mission cos it was \'only\' an fb..
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on September 03, 2005, 06:06:51 PM
Is there a great difference in the weight of an fc and and fd. Plus could it follow the rules if it didn\'t have twin turbos as stock originally ?? If there isn\'t much difference then sure he should be in the list, but i thought it was an fd comp ?

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TRex on September 03, 2005, 09:43:33 PM
Unless I am \'retarded\' the name of the thread is.  \'Fastest Stock Twins\'!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on September 03, 2005, 10:24:36 PM
Forget letting fc\'s in with fd\'s.
John has just started something, what a brill idea, I guess it had to happen.
Something for you TRex to get your teeth into.
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17982
Let the banter begin :-)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: 20B_boy on September 03, 2005, 10:45:47 PM
Quote from: TRex
Unless I am \'retarded\' the name of the thread is.  \'Fastest Stock Twins\'!

Did the FC ever come with the Hitachi twin turbos from the FD - or any other twin setup? If no then, well, thats not stock for an FC is it? :o

The point of the thread was for those with stock cars - in this case FD\'s - Brett is doing the same for FCs? - could play for some thing on a level playing field.

Do FC owners have a persecution and/or inferiority complex, or do FD owners look down at FCs and have a misguided dilusion of grandeur? Not sure tbh - some of both by the looks of things! Seems more FC owners are bothered about it than FD owners from these threads though :guinness
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: 88GT-R on September 03, 2005, 10:47:40 PM
Minority :D

John
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TRex on September 03, 2005, 10:55:38 PM
Inferiority complex..  :rollin  :rollin  :rollin
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: 20B_boy on September 03, 2005, 11:00:10 PM
Quote from: TRex
Inferiority complex..  :rollin  :rollin  :rollin

Hey, you wanna \'upgrade\' to an FD motor and snails mate - no probs; its understandable. They\'re better after all. Arent they? Hehe ;)

Honestly, if I could find a decent FC in the UK (i.e. one thats not a rusty POS - a bit like UK FDs!, and on 100K very worn out miles) I\'d probably have another one...
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on September 03, 2005, 11:08:16 PM
lol. Hey i have no prob but it does seem past the point. way past the point. Could i stick my fd running gear and stuff in to ollies FB or better still in to Garys Purple beast if This one is allowed.

Scott :3gears-lh

Quote from: 20B_boy
Did the FC ever come with the Hitachi twin turbos from the FD - or any other twin setup? If no then, well, thats not stock for an FC is it? :o

Well said

The point of the thread was for those with stock cars - in this case FD\'s - Brett is doing the same for FCs? - could play for some thing on a level playing field.

Do FC owners have a persecution and/or inferiority complex, or do FD owners look down at FCs and have a misguided dilusion of grandeur? Not sure tbh - some of both by the looks of things! Seems more FC owners are bothered about it than FD owners from these threads though :guinness
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TRex on September 03, 2005, 11:56:22 PM
20B intially thought you were having a dig and my usual self had keyboard buring up, but now deleted(edited) :D

 Won\'t go into the FC-FD debate as that doesn\'t concern me... if I want an FD I\'d get one tomorrow morning!  And thats not idle talk. ;)

 As stated the thread is \'fastest stock twins\'... I have exactly the same gear that these chaps run, 13B engine with stock twins(hitachi) included.
 
 
 Stop the excuses and small talk chaps, the time to beat is 11.86 @ 116.  :bandit
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on September 04, 2005, 12:05:32 AM
Quote from: TRex
20B intially thought you were having a dig and my usual self had keyboard buring up, but now deleted(edited) :D

 Won\'t go into the FC-FD debate as that doesn\'t concern me... if I want an FD I\'d get one tomorrow morning!  And thats not idle talk. ;)

 As stated the thread is \'fastest stock twins\'... I have exactly the same gear that these chaps run, 13B engine with stock twins(hitachi) included.
 
 
 Stop the excuses and small talk chaps, the time to beat is 11.86 @ 116.  :bandit




True ... Fastest stock twins
As i said before i aint fussed really so how is 11.86 from a custom built FC valid. The car is lighter for a start and the turbos far from stock for that year or model. Buy an FD and hit the same time if it is a mere pocket money. I dont see no excuses here.......

TREX i know you you are a nice guy really  :guinness
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on September 04, 2005, 12:55:40 AM
If you go back to the orignal thread (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17676) it did start as a FD competition...but I suppose having a target to beat isnt a bad thing :) Although if there were more than pride at stake think I would have an objection :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TRex on September 04, 2005, 01:37:41 AM
Quote from: sdminus
True ... Fastest stock twins
As i said before i aint fussed really so how is 11.86 from a custom built FC valid.
TREX i know you, you are a nice guy really  :guinness


 Thanks Scott, but nice/good guys always come last...  :D

 Besides, my car is stock....  :o   Haven\'t got the BiG sInGlE tUrBo, water injection and all the super mods that make everyone on here go fast..
 
 But I get the message ...  :(
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: 20B_boy on September 04, 2005, 01:53:56 AM
Quote from: TRex
20B intially thought you were having a dig and my usual self had keyboard buring up, but now deleted(edited) :D

 Won\'t go into the FC-FD debate as that doesn\'t concern me... if I want an FD I\'d get one tomorrow morning!  And thats not idle talk. ;)

 As stated the thread is \'fastest stock twins\'... I have exactly the same gear that these chaps run, 13B engine with stock twins (hitachi) included.
 
 
 Stop the excuses and small talk chaps, the time to beat is 11.86 @ 116.  :bandit

:D NP and no dig, I would buy an FC if I came across one that was good enough - but its a sad fact that most of them are not in very good nick these days - and I have enough projects on the go already without adding an FC to the list :rolleyes:

I still cant really see how another cars (FD\'s) engine and turbos can be referred to as stock (on an FC), regardless of their similarities though...

Who started this all? :flamed :rollin

Let\'s talk it all in the manner intended any way. Where did you run you 11 Trex?

R.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on September 04, 2005, 08:39:30 AM
Ah okay, firstly, I didn\'t know the FC didn\'t come in a twin turbo configuration, that\'s why I did\'t mind adding it and secondly, an FC/FD hybrid isn\'t in the spirit of the competition.

So shall I add a rule to make it clear this is for FD\'s only?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on September 04, 2005, 08:58:15 AM
Quote from: TRex
Thanks Scott, but nice/good guys always come last...  :D

(


At least that is a plus point for being at the bottom of the table, then!!  :chat  :chat
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on September 04, 2005, 09:52:09 AM
Quote from: TRex
Thanks Scott, but nice/good guys always come last...  :D

 Besides, my car is stock....  :o   Haven\'t got the BiG sInGlE tUrBo, water injection and all the super mods that make everyone on here go fast..
 
 But I get the message ...  :(




LOL LOL... Not in my case they dont :3gears-lh
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: bnaellis on September 04, 2005, 12:06:30 PM
How about we start another thread for those of us from a different ethnic background? I think would make me the fastest brother in town :rollin
Whatever next? 1st gen owners sticking comso 3 rotor engines in their cars wanting recognition for a stock twin :D
Give me a bad rep if your want just having an early Sunday morning fun.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: TRex on September 04, 2005, 01:10:39 PM
Brian don\'t get me started on you..


 Anyway chaps I\'m just playing with you lot.  :)

 Take care and good luck with those times...
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on September 05, 2005, 11:49:59 AM
Quote from: chrisBoid
From the sounds of things I\'ll expect to be updating this table after Sunday 4th.

Don\'t disappoint me!


Any updates after the weekend?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on September 05, 2005, 04:55:33 PM
Only just now found the time to post. Have been working 17+ hours a day since last Tuesday on a Murder case. ( except Saturday the 3rd Sept as I had pre-paid for the day at Santapod and they didn\'t want to pay me compensation for having to miss it, to work )We have now got him charged and remanded.
Well I did one run on low boost and all seemed fine except I missed 3rd. Next run on full boost I did the same but still ran a 13.2. The next run things fell into place and I ran the below;

            0-60ft  2.0
            330ft    5.5
            1/8      8.4 @ 88.56mph
            1000\'    10.76
            1/4      12.83 @ 112.73
 
 Then after a long wait due to a drag car fire and injury to driver, I managed to go for another run. The launch felt very good as well sticky, 1st into 2nd and 2nd into 3rd  :3gears-lh then loss of power. Looked in the rear view mirror and I was a JETCAR well thats what it looked like with all the water and oil spewing out of the exhaust along with the internal parts of the twin turbos, at that point I just started laughing. :yes
Looked very spectacular by all accounts. Did anyone get any pics?  :guinness
Then 3rd into 4th as I had seen what had happened to the driver of the drag car that caught on fire and I was not going to wait for the fire truck so I drove off the track to them. One small fire later around the t/t\'s that was oil dripping onto them and it was onto the RE:works trailer and off the pod.
So all in all an eventfull day. Got things right, improved my times and got my head in gear  :D .
  The fact the t/t\'s gave up was just one of those things. They had done over 45000 miles including 3 years of me melting them, the last 6 months running up to 1.3 bar of boost through them. It was not a matter of if they would go it was just a matter of when. I knew they would go on the strip at some time whilst giving them W.O.T. and they did.
Now all I need to do is find another pair that can last me the year out and get back on the road/strip.
I do not have a set of road tyres for the strip so I don\'t do burn out\'s yet. So my times are with cold low profile street tyres. I will sort out linelock and a set of 18" rims with some street legal tyres that I can rip to bits in burn ups and with some replacement twins that have not been put through the type of abuse I give turbos then should see my times into low 12\'s/high 11\'s by the end of the year.
Well thats the update. :3gears-lh
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on September 05, 2005, 05:17:07 PM
Updated, I bet we were all wondering how much abuse your twins could take!  I\'m amazed they even took 1.3 bar!  I was beginning to think they were made from kryptonite or unobtanium or something :)

Looking forward to seeing you nail that perfect run.  When are you expecting to be running again?

P.S.  I still owe you for the tool kit - not sure it will stretch to my turbo pack though! :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davefrith on September 05, 2005, 05:27:48 PM
Does frying your turbos damage the engine internals if all the crap gets chucked through it?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on September 05, 2005, 05:28:41 PM
Quote from: chrisBoid
Updated, I bet we were all wondering how much abuse your twins could take!  I\'m amazed they even took 1.3 bar!  I was beginning to think they were made from kryptonite or unobtanium or something :)

Looking forward to seeing you nail that perfect run.  When are you expecting to be running again?

P.S.  I still owe you for the tool kit - not sure it will stretch to my turbo pack though! :)


LOL  :chat
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on September 05, 2005, 05:29:48 PM
Quote from: davefrith
Does frying your turbos damage the engine internals if all the crap gets chucked through it?


Yes if you are unlucky, will have to see. Thats racing. :3gears-lh
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: John Yorke on September 05, 2005, 05:44:32 PM
Well done that man :guinness  
2.0 60\' aint bad still got a few 10ths there, still dont see how you get an 11 though, not without changing the diff - is that in the rules?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on September 05, 2005, 05:47:08 PM
You may find your ok with engine john as most of the turbo inards are going away not into the engine.
So it might just be a simple swap.
Keep fingers & toes crossed.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on September 05, 2005, 07:20:34 PM
John-- I think the rules only state Stock Twins ( I have a Uprated Diff in the pipeline :evillaugh )

Gary--Thats what I am thinking. She starts etc no probs on the key, water temps were only 80 when the fire crew were putting out the small fire. I have the day off Friday so will have her up on the jack/axle stands and have a good look as unsure what danmage the fire could have done as well. But hay ho thats racing for you.
 :flamed
 Talking of which I\'m Pit Crewing on Saturday at Silverstone on the 24 hour race with the RX-8 Race Team so that will take my mind off things. Will be there for 36hours so should be fun. :cool
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on September 05, 2005, 08:02:14 PM
Mr Hawg,

Sorry to hear the twins have finally gone...but admire your approach and attitude to the whole thing!  :god

Hope you get it all sorted asap!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on September 05, 2005, 08:34:53 PM
It will be mate, Thanks. :yes  :3gears-lh
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Ada7 on September 05, 2005, 09:14:49 PM
Yeh sorry to hear about your car mate. Hope you can get it all sorted out quickly and without much hassel. Did the fire do much damage to the body/bonnet?

Adam
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on September 05, 2005, 10:00:32 PM
No just a small fire, where the oil from the oil cooling in the twins had ignited.
Don\'t know as yet what other damage there is under there will have a good look on friday and post some pics if it\'s worth it. :rollin  :flamed
Got in at 9pm as had to wait for 2 3/4 hours for RAC recovery. Walked in the door, she was all ready in her best tucker, me hello!!!!!!!!! No reply, upstairs change into my DJ and back downstairs. Well I\'m ready shall we go!!!! Still silence as we got into her MX-5 and went off to a 50th birthday party that we should have been arriving at 8pm for. Anyway we had a good night, it was a James BOND theme all set out with cars and casino etc a good bash. A few vodka\'s later and the silence was broken. Wonderful thing alcohol.  :spank
I had to drink coke without the vodka for my sins.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: antnicuk on September 05, 2005, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: 20B_boy
Do FC owners have a persecution and/or inferiority complex,



NOPE,  Not Me :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on September 07, 2005, 02:33:23 PM
John, you still sticking with the twins then? good excuse to go single I would have though, all the other mods are there  :p

When do you think it\'ll be up and running again? If you do go for twins we will have to do a rwyb at pod or scr  :burnout

Kieron
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on September 07, 2005, 04:55:57 PM
Yes mate sticking with the twins.Until I have got it down into the 11\'s. :eek:   I will be changing to a single T51 Kia ballbearing with a RE:WORX RE Dowelled engine, uprated gearbox and etc\'s don\'t think I\'ll see much change out of 10k or it may even be more don\'t know till I get to work it out with Geff in the winter. What I want is a 10sec street car RX-7 FD and I will have one. Then I will do the bodykit bit and It will be very aggressive.   :cheers
Will try and get the twins sorted before the rolling road day. :evillaugh
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on September 07, 2005, 05:42:16 PM
Oh Chris you do need to update my Wheels HP to  389.2 @ 1.2 bar. As per my signature. Thanks mate. We can catch up about the tools thing at some stage. :spank
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on September 07, 2005, 05:49:49 PM
Quote from: Warthog
Oh Chris you do need to update my Wheels HP to  389.2 @ 1.2 bar. As per my signature. Thanks mate. We can catch up about the tools thing at some stage. :spank


Updated :)

Damn, we\'d all love a 10 second street car (I know it\'s my personal goal), not many can see it through though, I hope to see it happen!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on September 07, 2005, 06:09:08 PM
Oh I will do it Chris  :cheers
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Sy. on September 12, 2005, 05:11:00 PM
3rd Gen FD ..
HKS Airfilter , Full through exhaust , Apexi PFC (rest is standard, running standardish boost)

R/T 1.220
60 Foot 2.187
330 Foot 5.890
1/8 Mile 8.931
1/8 MPH 81.96
1000 FT 11.397
1/4 Mile 13.653
1/4 MPH 103.01
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Christopher on September 12, 2005, 05:23:42 PM
I got 13.4 at 108mph on a cold/ cloudy. I had 287bhp at the wheels when I did that.

Ive got a video and my slip
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on September 12, 2005, 05:37:53 PM
Quote from: Sy.
3rd Gen FD ..
HKS Airfilter , Full through exhaust , Apexi PFC (rest is standard, running standardish boost)

R/T 1.220
60 Foot 2.187
330 Foot 5.890
1/8 Mile 8.931
1/8 MPH 81.96
1000 FT 11.397
1/4 Mile 13.653
1/4 MPH 103.01


Updated :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on September 12, 2005, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: Christopher
I got 13.4 at 108mph on a cold/ cloudy. I had 287bhp at the wheels when I did that.

Ive got a video and my slip


Updated :)

It would be great if people could fill in any blanks they have.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Christopher on September 12, 2005, 05:47:24 PM
time - 13.42
60ft - have to check slip at home
date - not sure
venue - Santapod

Cheers Chris
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on September 12, 2005, 09:20:35 PM
Quote from: Christopher
time - 13.42
60ft - have to check slip at home
date - not sure
venue - Santapod

Cheers Chris


Updated the time and venue :)  Add the other information when you can.

Ta.

Chris.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Sy. on September 13, 2005, 12:06:51 PM
Chris /

Mine was at santaPod at the USC venue/
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on September 22, 2005, 02:12:43 PM
Quote from: Sy.
Chris /

Mine was at santaPod at the USC venue/


Sorry, I managed to miss your post.

Updated now.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on September 25, 2005, 11:25:55 PM
Had my last run up the strip today. Nothing new to see here. May be next year or may be not. ( thinking not ) :-)

Scott

Anybody wanna buy a white FD
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on September 25, 2005, 11:31:10 PM
How were your times today. :wave
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on September 25, 2005, 11:36:12 PM
in truth crap. No traction at all. waste of time

Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: osen on September 27, 2005, 09:48:11 AM
i dont now if i can be on the list but i did 13.09 @ 103 mph 60ft-1.959  here in sweden this weekend
i think i have around 280 on the fly wheel
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on September 27, 2005, 09:50:27 AM
Got the timeslip? Come over to pod on the 9th for some twin blowing action  :yes
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on September 27, 2005, 09:54:15 AM
Just a thought about the 9th, Shall we try and get our runs in at the same time? say if we all start queuing up at 10 for our 1st run (gives us time to get there and sign on) that way we can run side by side, make it more fun

 :3gears-rh
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on September 27, 2005, 10:04:14 AM
Quote from: osen
i dont now if i can be on the list but i did 13.09 @ 103 mph 60ft-1.959  here in sweden this weekend
i think i have around 280 on the fly wheel


Added :)  You\'re the current 60\' champion!  Donato won\'t be happy.  Do us a favour though and post some pics and info on your car, we all love eye candy.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on September 27, 2005, 10:05:26 AM
Quote from: Kieron
Just a thought about the 9th, Shall we try and get our runs in at the same time? say if we all start queuing up at 10 for our 1st run (gives us time to get there and sign on) that way we can run side by side, make it more fun

 :3gears-rh


Good idea, do we know who is coming on the 9th from this competition?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Ada7 on September 27, 2005, 10:12:01 AM
Well im coming up to the show, so i may have to join in this action then. Never done anything like this before. Some one has to come last right :rollin

Adam
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on September 27, 2005, 10:13:31 AM
Nope, I\'ll start a new thread, also I think it will be a good idea to give the MC a list of who is competeing and our best ET so far. Someone must have his number.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on September 27, 2005, 10:43:11 AM
Well that didnt take long, found his mobile number and email address  :D

New thread http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18605
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: osen on September 27, 2005, 11:55:07 AM
the car is stockloking on the outside
(http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/DSC_9360.jpg)

and god locking on the inside  :D
(http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/motornr1.JPG)

rotaryextreme ICkit, radiator and airbox, power FC, HKS twin power  :bandit
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on September 27, 2005, 12:06:01 PM
Quote from: osen
the car is stockloking on the outside
(http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/DSC_9360.jpg)

and god locking on the inside  :D
(http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/motornr1.JPG)

rotaryextreme ICkit, radiator and airbox, power FC, HKS twin power  :bandit



Blimey, how clean is that engine!

Hmm... you think 280 at the fly! With those mods, would you not expect something quite a bit higher?

Great times, though!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on September 27, 2005, 12:20:45 PM
Ive got over 280RWHP with almost no mods. Think he must have a very safe and rich map on the apexi, strict emissions controle maybe?

The car looks sweet though (where it counts)  :cheers  :god
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: osen on September 27, 2005, 12:53:08 PM
280 is just whot im guessing i have still the stock clutch on and i have bin told it dont wont to work over 280.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Wav on September 27, 2005, 01:08:31 PM
Quote from: osen
280 is just whot im guessing i have still the stock clutch on and i have bin told it dont wont to work over 280.



Not strictly true. As some people on here and on FDUK are running stock clutches with over 310hp at the rear wheels :3gears-rh NOt sure how long they will last though :confused: ;)

Nice car, v mounts are the way forward.

Paul:)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on September 27, 2005, 02:05:07 PM
Wont be heading up on the 9th but were definately going to shakespear county raceway on the 29th/30th oct for the halloween showdown....anybody else heading up to that one?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on September 27, 2005, 02:38:14 PM
Is it a Jap only thing? post full details...
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on September 27, 2005, 03:46:07 PM
http://www.halloweenshowdown.co.uk/

Havent got a website for this years one, just a big 2 day RWYB I think with a few jet cars thrown in for good measure, not jap only
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on September 27, 2005, 04:04:36 PM
Not sure on our move out date yet, as we have sold our house -- it may clash. If free will attend.
Depending on how I get on, on the 9th may run. If I do what I want to do ( 1/4 in less than 12.5 on the 9th ) then I won\'t need to run--fingers crossed. :3gears-lh
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on September 27, 2005, 04:12:10 PM
I would come on the 9th but there seems to be a large hole beneath all my time and money this month...
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Ada7 on September 27, 2005, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: ScuttleRX
I would come on the 9th but there seems to be a large hole beneath all my time and money this month...

No the feeling mate, that\'ll be me at the end of next month!!!

Adam
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on September 27, 2005, 04:22:12 PM
:D It was basically 1 or the other, and me and the group of us who go always enjoy it in stratford upon avon since we\'ve been going there for rotorstock, so decided on that.

Plus jap days at santa pod are good but if your racing you dont get to see any action with the queue being behind everything...imagine the queues at the shakespeare event will be similar size but at least you can see it all while you wait

*edit* would still go to both if I could just saying why I chose one over the other  :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on September 27, 2005, 07:23:26 PM
I\'m trying to make the shakespear RWYB, should be a good do. Plus its closer than santa pod ! Hopefully will have the new clutch fitted by then. As said before the stock clutch isn\'t much use when you get to 300bhp ATW. Mines just spinning up when i load it up, but its still running since RS2 on less than energetic runs out :p

Is it a daytime RWYB ?

Cya soon

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on October 02, 2005, 10:54:31 PM
Looking very likely i\'ll be heading to santa pod now next sunday as well as shakespeare, friend has been twisting my arm, and im starting to relent...So with a bit of luck see you chaps there :)

Prob wont be on mazda stand tho as I dont want to get a ticket as I still might not be able to go, dont want to take a place in front of a person whos definately going. Plus will prob spend most of the day in the queue anyways :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Sy. on October 03, 2005, 02:10:29 PM
should be there on the 9th to beat my time when on standard boost as now upped to hopefully 1 bar ish.
Title: 12.88 stock twins
Post by: stuart wizy on October 04, 2005, 09:51:05 PM
can you put me on the table please ?
first ever drag race ive  done and out of 10 runs got two 12sec times, best 12.883 seconds reaction 0.75    60-2.014    330-5.485    mph1- 85.94  
660- 8.349    990-  10.73   mph2- 108.00
the engine was rebuilt by tim rx motors on stock twins 1300cc sec injectors, trust std mount intc, power fc, blitz sbcid controller set at 11psi.
pip mapped the car 2 months ago with intake temp at 52 ish degc boost 11psi, which made 280 ish rwhp.
however i pushed and started the car more or less on the line to get temp down to 32degc and did this run.
by the way, it was at shakespear county raceway 2nd oct, silver fd with std wheels on front and gold volks on rear if anyone watched.
im putting aquamist dual stage water injection on this wknd to get intake temps down bellow ambient.
with better rection time and a bar of boost, daddys gonna do 11 sec run on 15th16th at shakespear!!!!!!!!!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 04, 2005, 10:11:37 PM
Welcome to the game mate, are you at the Pod on Sunday? :cool
Oh and pay your full membership and be part of the family. :spank
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: John Yorke on October 04, 2005, 10:12:18 PM
Quote from: stuart wizy
can you put me on the table please ?
first ever drag race ive  done and out of 10 runs got two 12sec times, best 12.883 seconds reaction 0.75    60-2.014    330-5.485    mph1- 85.94  
660- 8.349    990-  10.73   mph2- 108.00
the engine was rebuilt by tim rx motors on stock twins 1300cc sec injectors, trust std mount intc, power fc, blitz sbcid controller set at 11psi.
pip mapped the car 2 months ago with intake temp at 52 ish degc boost 11psi, which made 280 ish rwhp.
however i pushed and started the car more or less on the line to get temp down to 32degc and did this run.
by the way, it was at shakespear county raceway 2nd oct, silver fd with std wheels on front and gold volks on rear if anyone watched.
im putting aquamist dual stage water injection on this wknd to get intake temps down bellow ambient.
with better rection time and a bar of boost, daddys gonna do 11 sec run on 15th16th at shakespear!!!!!!!!!



Go for it chap :cool
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on October 04, 2005, 11:36:48 PM
Quote
best 12.883 seconds


nice time matey :) Got any pics of your rex? Just curious, how come your running standard wheels on the front and volks on the back, thought the general trend was to do the opposite (i.e smaller wheel, bigger sidewall on the rear end for a better launch). This is of course assuming your volks arent wrapped in a set of sticky drag tyres :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 04, 2005, 11:43:44 PM
Rules are Rules, road tyres only no Slicks  :spank
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on October 05, 2005, 12:23:14 AM
Double that
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on October 05, 2005, 09:19:36 AM
12.8 with only 280bhp  :eek  I need to sort my driving out LOL

Welcome to the game  :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on October 05, 2005, 10:21:59 AM
Blimey, feeling a bit outclassed!

Only got a measly 230-240 @ the hubs (280 @ fly)!

Think I\'ll be continuing to prop up the table! :rollin

Good time, StuartWizy!  ;)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on October 05, 2005, 12:54:55 PM
Quote from: stuart wizy
can you put me on the table please ?
first ever drag race ive  done and out of 10 runs got two 12sec times, best 12.883 seconds reaction 0.75    60-2.014    330-5.485    mph1- 85.94  
660- 8.349    990-  10.73   mph2- 108.00
the engine was rebuilt by tim rx motors on stock twins 1300cc sec injectors, trust std mount intc, power fc, blitz sbcid controller set at 11psi.
pip mapped the car 2 months ago with intake temp at 52 ish degc boost 11psi, which made 280 ish rwhp.
however i pushed and started the car more or less on the line to get temp down to 32degc and did this run.
by the way, it was at shakespear county raceway 2nd oct, silver fd with std wheels on front and gold volks on rear if anyone watched.
im putting aquamist dual stage water injection on this wknd to get intake temps down bellow ambient.
with better rection time and a bar of boost, daddys gonna do 11 sec run on 15th16th at shakespear!!!!!!!!!


Updated :)  That\'s a great time with that power, keep up the good work!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 05, 2005, 05:38:57 PM
Sorry Chris, but I do feel the issue of the tyres needs to be resolved before posting a time. Was this time done on road legal tyres or not? It is a pointless exercise us all trying to improve within the rules if it\'s not a level playing field. I have no problem with any non-member joining in but we do need to know that the run has been done according to the rules we all agreed on. :wave
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: 20B_boy on October 05, 2005, 05:47:14 PM
Quote from: stuart wizy
with better rection time and a bar of boost, daddys gonna do 11 sec run on 15th16th at shakespear!!!!!!!!!

Not to poo on your parade but a) reaction time doesnt count for **** on you ET and b) it certainly isnt easy to make up 3/4 of a second on the quarter lol, with a couple of extra lbs of boost or otherwise :D

Anyone else going to SCR on 15th or 16th then? its test n tune yeah? what are limits on numbers? do u have to book in advance? how much? etc?? :)

Personally I think SCR is quicker than Pod, although I know others dont agree!

All good fun!
R.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on October 05, 2005, 06:11:56 PM
Quote from: Warthog
Sorry Chris, but I do feel the issue of the tyres needs to be resolved before posting a time. Was this time done on road legal tyres or not? It is a pointless exercise us all trying to improve within the rules if it\'s not a level playing field. I have no problem with any non-member joining in but we do need to know that the run has been done according to the rules we all agreed on. :wave


I gave him the benefit of the doubt (and assumed he\'d read the rules) and stuck him on the table, that way I won\'t forget to do it :)  But yes, if he admits to using slicks then he\'ll be removed.
Title: 12.88 run
Post by: stuart wizy on October 05, 2005, 06:19:46 PM
the run was on brand new road legal tyres 235x40x17
the reason why ive got std wheels on front cause ofsets on the volks are +34, i did a track day on ty croes north wales last month and pulled down the lips on my arches, im getting 6mm taken of the inside face on the rims so i can use them again.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 05, 2005, 07:44:30 PM
The man says they are road legal tyres.
Good enough for me.
I must get over to Shakespeare maybe see you over there this month. The Shakespeare track is on a slight down hill gradient and the wind is not head on, it is meant to be 0.2 of a sec faster than Pod.  So it may well be worth the trip. :wiggle
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on October 05, 2005, 08:30:39 PM
Tempted but dont have the time of interest at the mo. Wanna work on new projects i have going on.

Might put the Fd up for sale not really sure what its worth tho. Not 100 % i wanna sell it yet but its quite likely tho.

Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 05, 2005, 08:34:37 PM
Come on Scott spill the beans man. :wave
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on October 05, 2005, 08:35:43 PM
Spill what. There aint no deep dark secrets here.. The couple of months will tell.
 :cheers

:-)

Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on October 05, 2005, 09:45:07 PM
Ah gotcha, wasnt impliying anything, just thought it might have been a potential drag race tip :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 05, 2005, 09:46:44 PM
:evillaugh  :cheers
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on October 06, 2005, 08:30:22 AM
I think the use of N2O shouldn\'t be allowed. I thought about getting a 75bp system set up and blow you all away  :flamed  but then I thought it\'ll be cheating... Whats your views and opinions on this?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on October 09, 2005, 07:24:29 PM
Hmmm, I wouldnt object to it, how does it stand from a road legal point of view, as if its not it might not be in the nature of the competition...

Be careful with nos though, heard its not best suited on a rotary, there is a big thread on here with good advice of how to do it right :) I still havent been in a car with nos, really want to see what its like!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: g11ary on October 09, 2005, 09:06:01 PM
NOS is illegal on the rd.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on October 09, 2005, 09:31:26 PM
Well, gave it a go, first time on a drag strip. Damn sight harder than you think it is! All the things you think about doing, advice etc, just disappear - the mind just goes blank! Then its all over and you can\'t remember what you did!!

Anyway, the only timed run I have as a reference was from the JTuner day. So that was my target. 13.88@103.79. Pleased to say I improved (albeit slightly) the time, but not the mph terminal though.

Run 1 - wheel tramp on take off, good rest of run
Run 2 - good off the line, but fluffed 2nd to 3rd change
Run 3 - seemed pretty good all the way

(Run 1 - 2 - 3)
0-60ft - 2.422 - 2.281 - 2.204
330ft - 6.21 - 6.022 - 5.933
1/8th - 9.242 - 9.234 - 8.94
1/8th mph - 82.48 - 78.4 - 83.17
1000ft - 11.76 - 11.819 - 11.471
1/4 - 14.03 - 14.156 - 13.738
1/4 mph - 103.01 - 99.98 - 102.94

So, improved the 1/4 ET from 13.88 to 13.73, 0.15s quicker.

Last run, I changed into 4th at around 7k rather than the previous runs at the buzzer (7.5-8k). Terminal speed is slower than Run 1, would staying in 3rd longer have helped with this?

Must say, 2nd and 3rd runs I though felt pretty good off the line, but 0-60 is still 2.2  Hats off to you guys getting 2s and even into the 1.9s/1.8s!


Anyone else with results you were pleased with?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on October 09, 2005, 09:40:06 PM
Updated :)

I saw one of your runs, you were beating some noisey thing.  Putting the smackdown in a classy no fuss kind of way - neat!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 09, 2005, 10:30:15 PM
Nice one Andrew. I drove like a prat but thats another story, now you have some runs under your belt and you have seen how it all goes "out the window". You can see why I was on about the Zone.  :yes
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on October 09, 2005, 10:49:08 PM
Same probs as what i had two weeks ago buy the sound of things. i could only manage a 13.1 then. I was in poddington all day in the FD but went to the cinema instead. Glad i didnt bother.

Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 09, 2005, 11:10:55 PM
Well it seems I may not have been that much of a prat after all then. I thought it was me and or the car. It just didn\'t feel right. Scott you will know what I am on about. You drop her into 3rd and she just lifts up when the 2nd turbo kicks in, as if you have given the car it\'s freedom. It just didn\'t happen today. No sticky would explain a lot. Due to the fact we had to sit in line for hours i didn\'t get to see too many cars run. But from what is being said and from how I felt, then I think it\'s Shakespear from now on for me.
I know i have one problem and thats what we think is a leaking slave as the clutch pedal was fading. I will have her up and check for fluid later on this week.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Gman on October 09, 2005, 11:22:51 PM
i always have too much grip or not enough at the pod, other have said the same.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on October 09, 2005, 11:29:18 PM
Quote from: Warthog
Well it seems I may not have been that much of a prat after all then. I thought it was me and or the car. It just didn\'t feel right. Scott you will know what I am on about. You drop her into 3rd and she just lifts up when the 2nd turbo kicks in, as if you have given the car it\'s freedom. It just didn\'t happen today. No sticky would explain a lot. Due to the fact we had to sit in line for hours i didn\'t get to see too many cars run. But from what is being said and from how I felt, then I think it\'s Shakespear from now on for me.
I know i have one problem and thats what we think is a leaking slave as the clutch pedal was fading. I will have her up and check for fluid later on this week.



No mate its all too familiar.. One of mine the other week felt like the car was on ice laying big big no 11\'s through 1st gear and second. On the A6 this morning i was chirping 4th gear whilst over taking :confused:

I think you have confirmed to me that its bed time for my FD now.
Was gonna remap it etc over the next week for a few runs but may as well wait now.

Have you replaced the hydrolic line with a braided one. I think john did his and said it was a must.

Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 09, 2005, 11:36:33 PM
Yes mate that was done when I upgraded the clutch, I think the slave seals can\'t take the pressure and are failing. I\'m not going to mess about trying to get new seals and have a problem again if they don\'t seat correctly. I am just going to buy a new slave complete ( if thats what it is, no signs of anything around the master and the brakes are spot on. ) :wave
Scott your two 12.6 runs were both at RS11 were they not.???
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on October 09, 2005, 11:44:29 PM
i had 3 12.6 runs there and would have done one at the pod 2 but missed 4th gear. Compared all the sectors. When the track is hot and preped the pod is as fast as shakespere.

I have never had a clear run since shakespere....

Jap show i roasted the clutch and destoryed the flywheel. The next effort i smashed the LSD and didnt get past stageing. Then 2 weeks ago with  no traction and loads of miss fires and spluttering..... and now winter.... A summer of major expense and no joy

Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 10, 2005, 12:00:33 AM
Thats racing mate, bummer. :reallymad
The reason i asked was because they did prepare and redo the sticky at RS11. Does anyone who runs at Shakespear know if they redo the sticky on RWYB days there.? If they do then great, if not it will just have to be a Test and Tune day. Pod is fine on T&T days but not RWYB days it seems.
I think I\'ll give Shakespear a try from now on.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on October 10, 2005, 01:01:45 AM
Bit strange they didnt glue the whole track, especially with the old jet cars running...thought that would be a bit hazourdous!!

Im hoping they do shakespear on the 30th, seems a big event so hopefully they will :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on October 10, 2005, 09:00:17 AM
Quote from: chrisBoid
Updated :)

I saw one of your runs, you were beating some noisey thing.  Putting the smackdown in a classy no fuss kind of way - neat!


Thanks.

Think the 1st run was next to a Supra, but the guy on the start line was wiping the floor, so held me back, then I got up to the line (adrenalin, nerves etc), inching forward, hit the 2 staging lights, then the tree went green instantly - no time to prepare! So the Supra took me out well and good - but speaking to the bloke afterwards, in the queue, he was pushing over 400+ horses etc anyway!

2nd run was me only - an Evo dumped its fluids on the start line, so only one lane was running at the time - so like I said to the missus, I won that one!

3rd run - just getting upto the front of the queue, when they open the "paddock" gate, and let in a Skyline, I think. Not really a fair competition! I got a good start, but could hear him behind, then come roaring past half way down the strip. No chance really!

Was good fun, but honestly the queuing was appalling. Hardly saw anyhting of the day or the runs. I think in retrospect, should have done a RWYB day and just enjoyed the JapShow instead. Oh well! When I got my timing slips (around 3pm), they ladies behind the counter were still turing away people who were trying to sign on. They just refused - too many!

I may give it another go, not sure. Would like to, just to get the 0-60 times down. But not sure how to, without lots of practice, and not sure I want to put the car through that too often!!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on October 10, 2005, 09:40:02 AM
What a crap day, I spent all day in a queue, either to get in, to sign on or to run, didn\'t get to watch any racing at all  :reallymad

I have more power now (extra 30rwhp) than when i did my 13.6, my 0-60 was the same, my Terminal Speed was more but my times were slower, reason? WHEEL SPINNING IN 1st 2nd and 3rd finally got traction when I change into 4th and by that time it was all over  :reallymad  :reallymad  :reallymad

Will scan in my best of the day vs my best ever so you can see for yourself.

SCR (AP) for me from now on.  :cheers
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on October 10, 2005, 10:08:08 AM
Not relevant, but did anyone see the little go-kart at about half 3? Talk about wheelspinning up the track! The guy was sideways in every gear!  :3gears-lh   I was watching from the cow-shed behind the start, it was funny seeing him squeal after every gear change, then zig-zag as he tried to find traction!! The guys got guts to do that, though! Looked well dangerous!  :eek:
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Sy. on October 10, 2005, 11:00:04 AM
i was going to sign on but saw the queue and gave up ..... as i did the same at USC and never saw the show ..
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on October 10, 2005, 11:13:02 AM
Quote from: Sy.
i was going to sign on but saw the queue and gave up ..... as i did the same at USC and never saw the show ..


WIsh I hadn\'t bothered now. I will be going to Avon Park this weekend.

Quote from: APIRA
15th-16th October: Run What You Brung (Test and Tune)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: jonny on October 10, 2005, 05:20:04 PM
took my FD to pod for the first time yesterday, after having endless problems with it i finally got it on the road wednesday and spent all night friday (till well past midnight) getting it ready for jap show.

my old car was a B16 engined integtra that ran 14.2 @ redline rumble so i was hoping for something similiar or close?

1st - 13.9
2nd - 14.2
3rd - 13.6!!!

i really wasnt prepared for how much the car wanted to go sideways off the line in first gear!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on October 10, 2005, 05:23:05 PM
Post up some more details (see table on the first page for the information you need to post) and I\'ll add you to the table.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: jonny on October 10, 2005, 05:29:51 PM
1/4 time - 13.647
speed - 100.26
60ft - 2.107
bhp - unknown

this was acheived yesterday 9/10/05 @ japshow, santa pod
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: John Yorke on October 10, 2005, 05:47:00 PM
If you looked at the \'invited\' cars they were all suffering the same probs, lots of them were capable of 9\'s or high 8\'s only one managed it. REWorx car had some blinding 60\' [1.6 - 1.8] that was because they ONLY prepared the 1st 60\' of the track :reallymad

Think it was a poor show myself, not the organisation but their poor preparation and allowing so many rwyb to what was supposed to be a show!

AND please tell me why they had to have a f#####g jet car and some poxy \'pro\' drag racers there that had nothing to do with a Jap show.

Sorry for the rant, just seems to me they are trying to please to many people, it should be a RWYB day with the \'pros\' doing their thing [AKA Rotorstock] or a show - for me they need to make up their mind.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on October 11, 2005, 09:52:08 PM
Quote from: jonny
1/4 time - 13.647
speed - 100.26
60ft - 2.107
bhp - unknown

this was acheived yesterday 9/10/05 @ japshow, santa pod


Updated :) Welcome to the competition.

Could a moderator make this thread sticky please?
Thanks in advance.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: iaint on October 11, 2005, 11:50:42 PM
Quote from: chrisBoid
Could a moderator make this thread sticky please?
Thanks in advance.


and done...

Iain

PS.  Might have to join in when Clive\'s finished tweaking mine.  Non-seq twins allowable? :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on October 12, 2005, 12:17:14 AM
Quote
Non-seq twins allowable?


Yes indeedy :)
Title: what are rules on weight reduction???
Post by: stuart wizy on October 12, 2005, 07:31:13 PM
dont you guys think that all cars should be running standard seats and trim inside the car, or have the top times been done with no interior ?
we all know drop the weight of a 1260 kg fd and the power to weight rockets per kg
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: borgue on October 12, 2005, 07:34:52 PM
the top time was done in full street trim on road tyres.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 12, 2005, 07:43:35 PM
I would say my FD actually weighs more than standard.
My set up is full road car nothing stripped out, I even run with the spare wheel, tool kit etc and a full/3/4 tank of fuel.
 As always my car is open to full inspection at any run, I have nothing to hide.
 I am proud of what I have managed to do with the help and guidance of the RE:WORX lads. As well as sound advice from many experts on this site and FDUK. :cheers
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: stuart wizy on October 12, 2005, 07:43:39 PM
how many are going down on sunday then????
i need some witnesses for my 11 sec twins run!!!!!!!!!!! :flamed
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on October 12, 2005, 07:44:09 PM
Anythings allowed mate, as long as its road legal and you have a set of twins in there.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 12, 2005, 07:50:29 PM
Ref non-seq twins. They are not stock twins. If you want to go for a non-seq twins record then go for it. But this record is for stock twins running seq.
If it were for non-seq then anybody could mix and match some powerful turbos. There has to be a base line.
I know of a set of non-seq twins laying down nearly 450 bhp at the wheels.
The only rules are at the first page of this thread and to be honest they are simple. HTH.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: stuart wizy on October 12, 2005, 07:51:41 PM
ive no chance against somebody with stripped out interior 1 kevlar seat soundproofing removed etc etc.
my last time was full stock interior with heavy toolbox and water in boot, i went there on my own and didnt fancy leaving tools in padock!
i think dwarfs should be banned to !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on October 12, 2005, 07:53:49 PM
Quote
i think dwarfs should be banned to !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thats me out then...!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on October 12, 2005, 07:56:44 PM
Yeah, but theres nothing to stop you doing that as well, you could say anything like I have no chance against a street ported motor, etc. Its only light-hearted fun :) Like I say if there were beer tokens at stake i\'d like to see things a bit stricter :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: stuart wizy on October 12, 2005, 08:00:09 PM
im 16.5 stone if i get some lypo done before sunday i might have a chance :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: stuart wizy on October 12, 2005, 08:02:25 PM
is anyone going scr on sunday then?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 12, 2005, 08:14:38 PM
I plan to go on Sunday mate, work permitting. I will confirm on Friday. :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: iaint on October 12, 2005, 11:23:48 PM
Quote from: Warthog
Ref non-seq twins. They are not stock twins. If you want to go for a non-seq twins record then go for it. But this record is for stock twins running seq.
If it were for non-seq then anybody could mix and match some powerful turbos. There has to be a base line.
I know of a set of non-seq twins laying down nearly 450 bhp at the wheels.
The only rules are at the first page of this thread and to be honest they are simple. HTH.


Quote from: The Rules
2. Must have original twin-turbo\'s, but they can be uprated e.g. enlarged wastegate, 360 degrees thrust bearings.


Don\'t see how that excludes running the stock twins non-sequentially.  Not like we\'re talking about running two gt35/40\'s is it?

I wouldn\'t imagine that the standard twins can put 450 to the wheels in any configuration that\'d last as far as the end of the strip before they melted.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Warthog on October 12, 2005, 11:28:17 PM
You would be amazed at what they can take.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on October 13, 2005, 08:34:35 AM
Quote from: Warthog
Ref non-seq twins. They are not stock twins. If you want to go for a non-seq twins record then go for it. But this record is for stock twins running seq.
If it were for non-seq then anybody could mix and match some powerful turbos. There has to be a base line.
I know of a set of non-seq twins laying down nearly 450 bhp at the wheels.
The only rules are at the first page of this thread and to be honest they are simple. HTH.


Running non sequential is allowed mate. Thats why im on the table.  ;)  :burnout
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on October 13, 2005, 09:37:55 AM
CHEAT  :wiggle  LOL

I just installed a 75BHP notrous system so I\'ll see you all int he low 12s  :3gears-rh
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on October 13, 2005, 09:44:07 AM
Quote from: Kieron
CHEAT  :wiggle  LOL

I just installed a 75BHP notrous system so I\'ll see you all int he low 12s  :3gears-rh


Is that a standard mazda nitrous part is it?  :p cheat! ;)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on October 13, 2005, 10:06:25 AM
ALso done alot of weight rediction, only 1 seat, no carper or interior panels  :p

Just kidding about the N2O I was going to do it but I don\'t think it should be allowed in this mini comp
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on October 13, 2005, 10:14:35 AM
Nice quiet ride then.. :p

for weight reduction i went for the carbon seats option as my fiance doesnt like sitting on the carpet for some reason...bit inconsiderate if you ask me  ;)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on October 13, 2005, 10:25:08 AM
Who said anything about carpet  :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on October 13, 2005, 10:30:40 AM
She has a cute ass and i wouldnt want it getting scrapped on the metal floor.  ;)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on October 13, 2005, 10:49:37 AM
Got photographic proof  :rollin

Seriously though I think the weight reduction worked against me @ pod last weekend. I was 0.3 slower and making almost 30 extra rwhp, I just couldnt get the traction down!

Is it too far for you to come for this weeken Danato?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on October 13, 2005, 11:03:11 AM
Certainly do, but you arent getting to see them!

It can work against you, i had problems with traction at R2, on my 12.9 run everything just seemed to work. I was doing runs at crail up here in scotland a few weeks back, only managed a 13.03, so not far off. That was witha boot full of tools and rubbish!

Yeah mate, thanks anyway but its a bit far for me, im going to give my FD a little rest now for winter, got too much other stuff to do at the moment, during the cold months im going to sort out my cold air induction now that i have removed my pop ups, when i did my 12.95 my intake temps were around 50c so there should be plenty of room for improvement there.. :3gears-rh im also going to look at a small amount of weight reduction, but nothing drastic as i like my interior  :D hopefully next year it will be pulling some faster times, mid 12\'s maybe...thinking about getting a spar diff and some drag tyres too, not for this comp but just so i can set myself a nice fast time!  :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Glenn Butcher on October 13, 2005, 11:10:37 AM
For you guys chasing more power i.e. lower intake temps...

A decent bonnet can make an amazing amount of difference - I know of a car that when they fitted a decent vented bonnet intake temps dropped 25 degrees C - and water temps came down an amazing 15 degrees also.

It may mean that you need to re-tune/dyno though to make more power!!!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on October 13, 2005, 11:25:56 AM
Crail is slower anyway, rough bumpy serface and not preped so good times considering!

I have a vented bonet but no way to monitor the temps as yet, i may do a few runs with it off  :D
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on October 13, 2005, 11:26:05 AM
I have a scoot bonnet on. my temps are ok but i have the rad vertical because of the fmic and the air filters are sitting behind the rad, not good so some cold air feeds and some shielding are the next set.   :wiggle
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on October 13, 2005, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: Kieron
Crail is slower anyway, rough bumpy serface and not preped so good times considering!

I have a vented bonnet but no way to monitor the temps as yet, i may do a few runs with it off  :D


True!

get yourself a big scoop like mad max!  :burnout
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on October 17, 2005, 12:11:24 PM
A quick question (hope it isn\'t a stupid one though!): if you were to knock, say 0.2sec off the 0-60ft time (i.e. getting from a 2.2 to 2.0), and all things being equal you have a spot on run, would you expect to knock off 0.2s off the ET, or would this saving amplified down the strip and actually finish with say, 0.4s off the ET?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on October 17, 2005, 12:14:54 PM
Ive heard, sort of rule of thumb thing, that every 0.1s you can knock off 0-60ft is about 0.2s off yourt 1/4 mile time, how true that is I dont know but like you say I reckon the saving get amplified down the strip to some extent
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on October 17, 2005, 01:20:58 PM
I managed to knock off 0.4 off my 0-60 ft (2.224 is my best) and with more power (almost 30rwhp) but I still cant get close to my 13.6. Best was a 13.749. I don\'t get it!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on October 17, 2005, 01:24:19 PM
hmmm strange! thought knocking 0.4 off would have had a huge effect, any spin/slip in 2nd gear with the extra power? so did you get a 1.8 60ft or do you mean your 13.6 run had a 2.6 60ft
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on October 17, 2005, 01:31:03 PM
Quote from: Kieron
I managed to knock off 0.4 off my 0-60 ft (2.224 is my best) and with more power (almost 30rwhp) but I still cant get close to my 13.6. Best was a 13.749. I don\'t get it!



How many runs did you do mate?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on October 17, 2005, 01:54:10 PM
I think I might be lexdysic  :xconfused

My 13.676 went like this:

60ft 2.244
330 ft 5.917
1/8 et 8.965
1/8 mph 82.24
1/4 et 13.676
mph 104.14

My 13.749 went like this:

60ft 2.337
330 ft 6.201
1/8 et 9.179
1/8 mph 84.90
1/4 et 13.749
mph 108.40
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: John Yorke on October 17, 2005, 04:20:06 PM
All these times and all are fine, if we were all perfect and every run we did was the same :rolleyes: Unfortunately this is not the case, there must be loads of examples where peeps have upped their game [more power, better drive train ect] and have ended up with a cr#p time mainly due to not doing what they did when they made their best time [launched @ higher / lower revs, changed gear earlier / later ect. worst of all TRACK conditions were not the same]
One thing above all I have discovered over the last few years...... This 1/4 mile thingy aint all about power its MUCH more about technique, being \'one\' with your motor, understanding what makes a 1/4 time, I am sure the top drivers if they got into anyone of our cars they would make most of us look like idiots :god They have the ability of making sub 1.6 60\'s where we are just dreaming of it, smooth controlled gear changes [god how many times have I dreamed of that!] and above all being focused.
Have a look at this table what is the difference between top and bottom and then look at what power these guys are running, I tell you its a great deal more about ability than power...... learn to drive :cool
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Kieron on October 17, 2005, 04:26:14 PM
LOL I did 7 runs on Sunday, and I suppose I have only ever done 20 in total in my whole life so loads of practice needed  :rollin
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on October 17, 2005, 04:26:59 PM
Good thoughts John! All perferctly true!

Quote from: John Yorke

Have a look at this table what is the difference between top and bottom and then look at what power these guys are running, I tell you its a great deal more about ability than power...... learn to drive :cool


Since I\'m bottom of the pile, I therefore have neither the ability nor the power!  :rollin
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Donato on October 17, 2005, 04:28:44 PM
Quote from: John Yorke
All these times and all are fine, if we were all perfect and every run we did was the same :rolleyes: Unfortunately this is not the case, there must be loads of examples where peeps have upped their game [more power, better drive train ect] and have ended up with a cr#p time mainly due to not doing what they did when they made their best time [launched @ higher / lower revs, changed gear earlier / later ect. worst of all TRACK conditions were not the same]
One thing above all I have discovered over the last few years...... This 1/4 mile thingy aint all about power its MUCH more about technique, being \'one\' with your motor, understanding what makes a 1/4 time, I am sure the top drivers if they got into anyone of our cars they would make most of us look like idiots :god They have the ability of making sub 1.6 60\'s where we are just dreaming of it, smooth controlled gear changes [god how many times have I dreamed of that!] and above all being focused.
Have a look at this table what is the difference between top and bottom and then look at what power these guys are running, I tell you its a great deal more about ability than power...... learn to drive :cool


very well said tht man! Thats why at rotorstock i got my 12.95 on my 20th run, if you not a good driver just do my method with the law of averages  :D

When i did my 13.03 it was my 8th run of the day...dont get me wrong i was pretty consistent, but it took at lot of runs playing with launch revs, tyre pressures, hangover wearing off  ;) , and just general practise. You cant expect to do one run and get in the mid 12\'s or whatever your aiming for, its a roy castle dedication thing thats required here!!  ;)  :3gears-rh

Not sure about being one with the car, my fiance says i alredy spend to much time with the other woman in my life  ;)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: borgue on October 17, 2005, 06:42:26 PM
the record 12.62 was set on the guys 3rd or 4th ever drag run!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on October 17, 2005, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: John Yorke
learn to drive :cool


Well said John !


There really is only one way to learn this. Practice. Make sure you record what you do for every run. I do.
We spend so much time on the car messing with little things and trying new things. There are so many variables to be adjusted and each one changes again with the surface. You may find that you cut a killer 60ft but end up with a slower time. On the other hand you could cut a 2.1 a get a 12.6 or less. it is true you can gain 0.2 sec per 0.1 you gain on the 60 ft but if you un balance the car doing a faster 60ft then it may not get going after that.
I really think if you all are looking for the answers on a forum then u will be in the 12\'s when the top guys are in the 11\'s and 10\'s


Scott :wave

Sorry just my 2 penith
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: bobster on October 17, 2005, 11:48:13 PM
Is there any chance I could be added to the table... no times for this year but best to date is

    
FD RX-7
   
13B Twin Turbo
   
Street
   
13.08
   
110.28
   
ROTORSTOCK-I
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on October 18, 2005, 08:55:39 AM
Quote from: bobster
Is there any chance I could be added to the table... no times for this year but best to date is

    
FD RX-7
   
13B Twin Turbo
   
Street
   
13.08
   
110.28
   
ROTORSTOCK-I


Updated :)  Can you remeber if it was the Sunday or Monday you ran?  Good time by the way!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: bobster on October 22, 2005, 03:53:38 PM
Not bad for an PFC and and exhaust I feel, running 0.7 bar.. thanks.
I ran both days last year... and pulled 13.0 on both days... Got a few tricks up my sleave for next year  :rolleyes:
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Shaq on October 24, 2005, 02:45:05 PM
I have been out of the rx scene for a while now but i am back in !

can you also stick me on there please
it was at rotorstockII on a monday 30th may 05 (JR130)

i got: 12.73 @ 112mph  (Boost was @ 1 BAR)
60ft: 2.1

bhp is 279rwhp


i think i can get better i did 3 runs it was soo hot i did not want anything to go wrong as it was a long walk home ! lol

i got the slip if anyone wants to see it.


thanks

shaQ
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: ScuttleRX on October 24, 2005, 03:07:13 PM
Nice time Shaq :cool, straight into 2nd :)

Have you got a page in members rides with some info on your car? Chris can do a link to it on the table if you have
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andrewrx7 on October 24, 2005, 03:11:38 PM
Quote from: Shaq
I have been out of the rx scene for a while now but i am back in !

can you also stick me on there please
it was at rotorstockII on a monday 30th may 05 (JR130)

i got: 12.73 @ 112mph  (Boost was @ 1 BAR)
60ft: 2.1

bhp is 279rwhp


i think i can get better i did 3 runs it was soo hot i did not want anything to go wrong as it was a long walk home ! lol

i got the slip if anyone wants to see it.


thanks

shaQ



 :god   Great time! And only 279rwhp  :eek: !!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on October 24, 2005, 04:50:54 PM
Quote from: Shaq
I have been out of the rx scene for a while now but i am back in !

can you also stick me on there please
it was at rotorstockII on a monday 30th may 05 (JR130)

i got: 12.73 @ 112mph  (Boost was @ 1 BAR)
60ft: 2.1

bhp is 279rwhp


i think i can get better i did 3 runs it was soo hot i did not want anything to go wrong as it was a long walk home ! lol

i got the slip if anyone wants to see it.


thanks

shaQ


Updated, great time.  There\'s hope for the rest of us yet :)
Put up some specs in the Member\'s Ride section!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on October 24, 2005, 05:48:34 PM
I did post this up for you earlier but couldnt remember the exact time mate...

Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Shaq on October 24, 2005, 08:17:30 PM
Thanks for the comments guys!, i have put the cars spec/pictures on the members rides section.
have a look,

http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19344


thanks

shaQ
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on October 25, 2005, 07:16:24 AM
Quote from: Shaq
Thanks for the comments guys!, i have put the cars spec/pictures on the members rides section.
have a look,

http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19344


thanks

shaQ


Updated, car loooking as clean as ever, top work!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Marky B on December 19, 2005, 07:39:45 PM
Havn\'t had mine long, so not done a great deal to it at the mo, Got a massive FMIC mounted an ready to be piped up, then need another injector and a boost increase. Anyway:

Reaction : +.701
60ft : 2.011
330 ft : 5.549
1/4 : 13.032
mph : 107.15

At Jap Show 2005 @ Santa pod

Spec:
Apexi filters
home made heatshield and cold air feed
Downpipe, decat, NUR Spec Backbox
Apexi Power FC + Commander


Running 269.3 rwbhp, 309.4 @ the fly with 12.22psi

Marky B
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on December 19, 2005, 08:31:51 PM
Damn, just realised that I don\'t have permission to edit this thread anymore :(

Is it possible to be made a Mod for just one thread?  I guess it has to be for an entire section?

Can a Mod help me out please?  Ta in advance!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Marky B on January 03, 2006, 12:05:46 AM
Can I get added to the table?

Mark
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Grizzly on January 03, 2006, 12:22:44 AM
Marky B, Do you go to The Mascrat Meet in Warington?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Marky B on January 03, 2006, 01:00:54 AM
Quote from: Grizzly
Marky B, Do you go to The Mascrat Meet in Warington?


Yes mate...  most of the time anyway lol

Marky B
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on January 03, 2006, 08:05:09 AM
Sorry, until a Mod helps me out I can\'t add you to the table.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: iaint on January 03, 2006, 11:16:44 AM
I had a look at this last night - about 1am and I needed to get to bed.  I\'ll have another look tonight and then make the changes.

Are there many updates to the list?

Iain
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on January 03, 2006, 12:11:14 PM
Just MarkyB.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: iaint on January 03, 2006, 09:37:16 PM
Done and dusted.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on January 04, 2006, 08:18:40 AM
Quote from: iaint
Done and dusted.


Ah the classic big space above the table, due to something the forum software does with all the line breaks I think.  Took me a bit of digging around to sort it but I can\'t remember the resolution without being able to edit.

I\'ll have to end my responsibility for keeping this table updated, may it live long and prosper :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: iaint on January 04, 2006, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: chrisBoid
Ah the classic big space above the table, due to something the forum software does with all the line breaks I think.  Took me a bit of digging around to sort it but I can\'t remember the resolution without being able to edit.

I\'ll have to end my responsibility for keeping this table updated, may it live long and prosper :)


Probably something to do with line-breaks in the table - means I can read the html easier but maybe not forum-friendly.  Going to see what can be done about letting you Mod this forum but not sure if Glenn said that was possible or not...  Until then I\'ll try to keep on top of it.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on January 04, 2006, 09:23:08 AM
Ta matey :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Marky B on January 04, 2006, 06:26:54 PM
Thanks very much  :cool

Mark
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: M@r]{ on March 19, 2006, 10:24:24 PM
Hi Guys  

Can you add my times in?

This was on 18/3/06 at Shakespear County Raceway

Time: 13.289
MPH: 107.4
60ft: 2.094
Reaction: 0.271

Thanks
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on May 22, 2006, 06:23:55 PM
Are we adding reaction times to the fastest stock twins at rotorstock too (plus new bump).

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on May 29, 2006, 07:53:43 PM
Well i struggled at the weekend with my starts, so i\'ve only got a 13.28 @112.51 mph with a 60ft of 2.204

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: sdminus on May 29, 2006, 09:01:45 PM
New time for y\'all to beat


1.92 60ft

12.4 @ 114 MPH

Please could you update the table ...... :3gears-lh

Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: davegttph1 on May 30, 2006, 10:17:34 AM
If we\'re still updating the table I beat my personal best this weekend at RS3.

1/4mile 13.42
60ft 2.191
@ 105.74mph

thanks :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Ada7 on May 30, 2006, 10:37:05 AM
Did my first ever runs over the weekend. 3 runs with a best of:
13.80 @ 104mph. 60ft 2.260. Would of loved to of done more runs but didnt want to risk it seeing as im selling my car :)

Adam
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: rx-paul on June 05, 2006, 12:03:41 AM
done a 13.31 @ 108  60ft 1.899 my 60ft is suprising considering i couldnt get any traction in first at rotor stock3
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Rixio on June 05, 2006, 12:21:13 AM
13.03 @ 112mph :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: osen on July 01, 2006, 04:43:27 PM
update from me here in sweden: 12.77 @ 184 km/h @ 60ft 2.1
if i still can be on the list ;)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: M@r]{ on July 01, 2006, 08:26:09 PM
update me please  :)   12.843 @ 100mph.  60ft - 2.001secs
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on July 01, 2006, 08:42:39 PM
blimey thats a slow et mark, what happened ???? Good time though, what tyres are you running ???

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: osen on August 13, 2006, 03:28:04 PM
now sombody have to update the list!

new time for me: 12.54s @ 181 km/h 60ft 2.021
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: mikeyh on July 24, 2007, 04:00:24 PM
can i get mine added pls

1/4 mile 13.05
reaction time 0.638
speed 109.2
thanks
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on July 24, 2007, 05:36:57 PM
Woah, I can\'t believe I haven\'t updated this table for so long!
Feel free to PM me if it lokos like the table is not being updated.

It is all updated now.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on July 24, 2007, 08:41:28 PM
The fastest was sdminus
 
12.0 @117MPH Jap show Oct 2006
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on July 25, 2007, 08:36:15 AM
Quote from: gillard28
The fastest was sdminus
 
12.0 @117MPH Jap show Oct 2006


Cool, if he can post on confirming that, I\'ll update the table.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on July 25, 2007, 11:22:33 AM
This is Sdminus. I got banned. i will scan the time slip
 
Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on July 25, 2007, 12:19:50 PM
Quote from: gillard28
This is Sdminus. I got banned. i will scan the time slip
 
Scott


Cool mate, thought it might be you, no probs, I trust you\'d have achieved that time!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on July 25, 2007, 12:35:13 PM
Updated now.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andysmee on August 13, 2007, 11:59:18 AM
I\'m sure there will be plenty from RS4...can you add mine though:
 
Reaction - 0.5499
60 ft - 1.9839
1/4 ET - 13.2650
mph - 104.41
 
rwbhp 284
venue RS4 Saturday
 
It did take a one or two attempts to get this! :rollin
 
And, respectfully to Ada7, since I now own the car it might be appropriate to take his 13.8 off the list :2Rolleyes Sorry Adam...
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Tintin on August 13, 2007, 01:01:51 PM
are non sequential twins classed as stock twins ???

if so you can add me on the list

reaction - .7860
60ft - 2.1299
1/4 ET -12.8098
1/4 MPH - 110.64

This was at RS4

Thanks

Paul
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: M@r]{ on August 13, 2007, 04:14:19 PM
Can you update mine  :)

60ft - 2.001
1/4 et - 12.556
1/4 mph - 114

Again at RS4
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 13, 2007, 06:50:42 PM
I\'ll wait until the weekend and update in 1 go.

Non sequentials count :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: m4drx on August 13, 2007, 07:27:57 PM
13.6 @ RS4 at 0.70 bar with stock turbos no porting etc
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: nicksterrx7 on August 17, 2007, 12:20:16 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread as I don\'t have an exact speed, but just had my BNR twins mapped by RE:Worx, putting out a healthy 355 RWHP at 1.0bar boost (thats about 410 - 420 fwhp I guess??).  Very pleased.  At 0.8 bar they were doing 316rwhp compared to my old set up that was maxed out at 289rwhp at 0.8 bar boost.  I can certainly feel the difference!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: M@r]{ on August 17, 2007, 03:01:02 PM
Well not exactly \'Stock Twins\' are they?  So to post on this thread you will have to sell (to me) your BNR\'s and put back on (or px with me) some stock ones  :p


Quote from: nicksterrx7
Not sure if this is the right thread as I don\'t have an exact speed, but just had my BNR twins mapped by RE:Worx, putting out a healthy 355 RWHP at 1.0bar boost (thats about 410 - 420 fwhp I guess??).  Very pleased.  At 0.8 bar they were doing 316rwhp compared to my old set up that was maxed out at 289rwhp at 0.8 bar boost.  I can certainly feel the difference!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andysmee on August 17, 2007, 03:22:11 PM
but the rules say that uprated stock twins count! so a BNR or other stage 3 uprated turbo is in, isn\'t it?
 
..not that I like it either!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: M@r]{ on August 17, 2007, 03:32:06 PM
Isnt that a contradiction?  Uprated +Stock?   :D

Seriously though, if any twin turbo \'counts\' why call it the Fastest "Stock" Twins thread?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andysmee on August 17, 2007, 04:06:11 PM
Agreed!
 
...but the rules on this thread are stated clearly enough...
 
Rules

1. Must be a twin-rotary engine. No triple\'s, quads or piston conversions.
2. Must have original twin-turbo\'s, but they can be uprated e.g. enlarged wastegate, 360 degrees thrust bearings.
3. Must be street legal.
4. The driver must be the owner.

All other modifications are allowed e.g. engine porting, uprated boost etc.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Rixio on August 17, 2007, 04:28:17 PM
They are still stock just re-worked to produce more power thats all...;)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on August 17, 2007, 04:29:34 PM
They only use the manifold of the orignal turbo.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 19, 2007, 12:08:50 PM
Quote from: nicksterrx7
Not sure if this is the right thread as I don\'t have an exact speed, but just had my BNR twins mapped by RE:Worx, putting out a healthy 355 RWHP at 1.0bar boost (thats about 410 - 420 fwhp I guess??).  Very pleased.  At 0.8 bar they were doing 316rwhp compared to my old set up that was maxed out at 289rwhp at 0.8 bar boost.  I can certainly feel the difference!


Not quite the right thread as this is specificaly about 1/4 mile times.  Post here for some HP chit-chat / feedback.

But if you do run down the strip please post the results here as BNR\'s are technically uprated stock turbos as you do need to supply donor stock turbos to get the BNR\'s made up.

To all : Perhaps we should rename the thread to "Fastest Stock-based Twins thread"?  We want anything based on the stock twins to be allowed but not anything else, e.g. 2 x GT35R\'s etc :)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisBoid on August 19, 2007, 12:12:34 PM
Table updated :)
Some great times being posted.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: andysmee on October 31, 2007, 01:45:38 PM
Any chance we can extend the table to note what engine porting and turbo uprating (BNR, KS) etc? It would be nice to compare stock for stock and uprated for uprated without excluding anyone from the list.
 
And I want to know what the fastest stock-stock car is!!!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on October 31, 2007, 05:57:17 PM
Sdminus
 
Full mazda stock spec engine
Stock twin turbos/ 100 000 KM +
Full road tires
Full interior and full weighted car with tool kit spare wheel and half tank of fuel
Apexi power fc tuned by ME
 
60 ft 1.901
330ft 5.151
1/8 mile 7.803
MPH 92.20
1000ft 10.030
1/4 mile 12.015
mph 117.20
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Fendamonky on May 04, 2008, 02:05:42 PM
Quote from: \'M@r
{;420507\']Well not exactly \'Stock Twins\' are they? So to post on this thread you will have to sell (to me) your BNR\'s and put back on (or px with me) some stock ones :p

The BNR\'s do require a working core in order for Bryan (guy that makes them) to produce them. However the stock Hitachi turbo\'s are replaced with Garrett GT28\'s (the GT28\'s handle the abuse of higher boost much better than stock HT12\'s), among other things.
 
nicksterrx7, what kind of engine porting/support mods do you have to be making 355whp @ 1.0 bar?? I just had my BNR\'s installed, then mapped to 1.1bar by Max and I only managed 325whp (stock ports and greddy SMIC).. then again, my intake temps were 40+ on the dyno (stock IC duct needs to go!!)
 
I\'ll learn to launch then see what kind of times I can pull at Santa Pod ^_^
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on November 21, 2008, 11:27:49 AM
I bought my car set up for quarter miles on stock twins, when is the next time I can run it when a few Rex owners will be about?  Anyone know if my car is one of the guys in the chart here?  A3 RXO is the reg plate, Rotechniks built.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 21, 2008, 11:38:39 AM
Here are the dates for next year, they start quite early god knows what the weather be like
http://www.rwyb.co.uk/dates.php
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on March 20, 2009, 10:52:41 PM
Hey all,
 
I have just got my car up to scratch, so I\'m going to RWYB on Sunday the 5th of April.  I\'d love to meet with anyone from MROC who\'s going, especially stock twins peeps to run against.
 
Let me know if you\'re going!
Title: 13.09 - first effort.
Post by: russellparkerx on April 06, 2009, 12:24:40 PM
Gentlemen,
 
I took my FD to Santa Pod yesterday - my first time on the strip.  Best of 2 successful times was a 13.09 at 111mph.  Did a third run and got a red light for slowly rolling over the line - very confident it was my best launch, so disappointed to not have a slip starting with a 12.
 
The 60 ft time was 2.143 seconds, so I hope to make a big improvement to the time on my next outing by refining the launch.
 
Met Blitzboy and Declan (Declasm?) and generally had a superb day.
 
Best wishes
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: declasm on April 07, 2009, 03:46:54 PM
Yeah - good to meet you Russell - your car was very nice, I\'ll like the "stock twins and nothing else stock" style - it\'s a bit different!

It was such a shame that the queue was so slow - I would have loved to get a few more runs in. My best effort was 13.8 @ 104.8 but my 60fts were shocking (2.38 on the first run) so with a few more goes I should hopefully be able to get under 13.5
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: stocky on April 09, 2009, 02:46:36 PM
1/4 mile 13.2992
speed 104.86mph
60ft 2.034
05/05/2008 rwyb santa pod
298.7bhp at flywheel
stock twins filter exhaust pfc-base map (seriously need to get it mapped)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: BlitzBoy on April 09, 2009, 03:03:14 PM
cool figures there Stocky, you will get more power when its mapped, probably another 40hp with an uprated fuel pump
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: stocky on April 09, 2009, 03:46:29 PM
hopefully will get a bit more power when mapped also ive changed the exhaust from a racing beat twin to nurspec r so should be a bit less restrictive
the clutch will need doing as started to slip on that run (was my second run and had a lower top speed than first run that was .6 slower??)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: declasm on April 09, 2009, 04:18:28 PM
Quote from: stocky;597638
1/4 mile 13.2992
speed 104.86mph
60ft 2.034
05/05/2008 rwyb santa pod
298.7bhp at flywheel
stock twins filter exhaust pfc-base map (seriously need to get it mapped)

That\'s fantastic stocky - I just got mapped by REWORX to 324fwhp - I only managed a 13.8 although my 60fts were shocking (~2.4) - what is your launch technique? Also did you cross the line in 3rd or 4th?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on April 09, 2009, 10:37:06 PM
Well impressed Stocky.  Mine is showing 303 atw, so that gives me hope of shaving half a second off with practice.  I see a lot of the table levels were set a while ago... let\'s see if we can get any of these old boys out of retirement!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on May 10, 2009, 10:11:34 PM
Also, can we update the table please mods?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on May 13, 2009, 10:26:27 PM
How are we getting on boys.... anybody beat me yet ????
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on May 13, 2009, 10:44:26 PM
Not yet old boy, Pod on Saturday.  Come along!  I have a few tricks up my sleeve, but no BNR turbos.  Would love to go head to head (and sneak a look at your motor).
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on May 14, 2009, 08:17:03 AM
No buddy, gone to a single turbo :Giggle

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: bnaellis on May 14, 2009, 08:46:21 AM
Quote from: gillard28;607499
How are we getting on boys.... anybody beat me yet ????



Tease:D how you doing mate?


rgds
Brian
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on May 14, 2009, 08:06:31 PM
HEHE,,,,
 
Im good. i cant get the hang of these piston motors tho.
 
give me a bell bud i lost your number.
 
hey i can help it if im fast :spank
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on May 14, 2009, 08:08:11 PM
russell i dont have a car anymore and i never had any bnrs lol
 
good luck its been a few years now..
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on May 14, 2009, 08:09:19 PM
Shaun.. im gutted... single turbo... after all i preached to you.... hope you are well
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on May 14, 2009, 09:53:57 PM
I\'m fine, I\'ve got another 60bhp Flywheel on top of where the twins finished on the high setting :D

Doesn\'t have the low down kick like the twins did !

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gmogle on May 14, 2009, 09:58:48 PM
Scott,

I met the guy who bought yours the other week. Should be seeing the car soon but its got a single on it now.

Nice to hear from ya.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on May 14, 2009, 10:38:22 PM
Torch graciously accepted SDMinus.  So how the hell did you lay down a 12 flat?  What boost and power were you running?  And how did you resist keeping the car long enough to take home a ticket with an 11 on it?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on July 11, 2009, 10:15:54 PM
So I shaved a hundredth of a second off at Rotorstock today.  13.08s
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Aceman on July 12, 2009, 07:43:04 PM
Started badly:

1/4 mile: 15.03074
60ft: 3.3765
MPH: 104.23

Improved:

1/4 mile: 14.4100
60ft: 3.1564
MPH: 109.63

Then realised that there\'s a difference between pulling away from traffic lights and launching so started actually doing the latter..

1/4 mile: 12.9166
60ft: 2.1515
MPH: 110.16

Still got more to come from her as she\'s not running right (boost leak & ignition problems so have toned down the boost a little).

Std twins non-seq, porting, extra fueling, p*ss poor cooling..
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: civicboy28 on July 12, 2009, 09:10:46 PM
Gillard28 cheers for your help today. If you need any help rotax wise, feel free to give me a bell anytime! I owe you one.
 
Andy
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: karl_tate on July 12, 2009, 10:50:37 PM
good times there guys,

so what did you differently to improve the launch??
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Ada7 on July 13, 2009, 10:10:28 AM
I did 15 runs on the saturday most of which were high 13s and some bad low 14s. I think i was trying to lauch to hard and so just spinning loads of the line so i lowed the revs a bit and that seemed to help.
I did manage a new PB for me of 13.1 @105mph. 2.0976 60ft which i think is my best lauch but will have to double check that.
i have had higher et speeds... does this mean if i can get the same good lauch and get the higher speeds somehow my time will be better??

Adam
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: civicboy28 on July 13, 2009, 11:43:27 AM
faster speed = travel more distance in a set time.
Better launch = get to faster speeds sooner.
 
To answer your question....Yes think so.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Aceman on July 13, 2009, 01:09:25 PM
Quote from: karl_tate;625577
good times there guys,

so what did you differently to improve the launch??



Honest answer is that I actually bothered trying..

Simply put, I kept "launching" like I was pulling away from the lights. 1500rpm perhaps 2000rpm when I felt like "really giving it some beans"..  :rolleyes:

Then I did some simple maths - to pull away I need torque and, well, I have very little of it at 1500rpm. Upped the revs so launching at 3500 and bob\'s your uncle - I actually moved off the line!! Filled the car with smoke though - seems my clutch is more dead and slipping worse than I first feared...
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on July 13, 2009, 01:13:03 PM
My 13.08 from Saturday was with a 1.98 second 60ft by the way... Pretty happy with that.  My terminal speed was nothing special - 107mph, whereas my previous best was 13.09 at 111mph.  4 mph lower but a hundredth faster...  Loads of factors in play eh?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Aceman on July 13, 2009, 03:48:40 PM
Quote from: russellparkerx;625753
My 13.08 from Saturday was with a 1.98 second 60ft by the way... Pretty happy with that.  My terminal speed was nothing special - 107mph, whereas my previous best was 13.09 at 111mph.  4 mph lower but a hundredth faster...  Loads of factors in play eh?


1.98 on road tyres? Good going that man!!
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Ada7 on July 13, 2009, 04:00:41 PM
I might have to invest in some stickier rear tyres on some standard wheels. Would help a little i think :D

Adam
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on July 13, 2009, 04:17:46 PM
Tell me about it.  Yokohama Advan sports - right down on the last of the tread... It really felt like the perfect launch.  Won a good bet over that 60 ft.  With the lower terminal speed of that run I\'m sure it would do sub 13 given the right conditions, but it feels so well set up at the moment I\'m loathed to wind it up further.  Can\'t keep taking it up there and abusing it in the hope of a following wind one day...  Maybe I should grease it.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on July 13, 2009, 05:52:41 PM
Hey no worries.
 
You dont needs loads of revs for the launch. But you do need to understand how the rear end of the car works and have a .... load of tq low down.
 
scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on July 13, 2009, 09:08:19 PM
Coz i love the sport here is a pic at your target
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/sdminus/scotty5desktop.jpg)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on July 14, 2009, 01:22:33 PM
Looks sweet G28.  Best colour I reckon.  What was your spec to take a whole second off my time?  Spill the beans man.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on July 14, 2009, 06:49:12 PM
I have posted it up so many times. very few secrets to that car as it ran.
 
what do u wanna know.
 
Im hoping one of you boys will beat it
 
scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on July 14, 2009, 07:19:50 PM
Tell all Scott!  How much boost?  What was your power figure?  What was your suspension set up?  I\'d be grateful of a link to your post with spec if there is one.
 
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53595
 
 
This is mine - forgot to mention Apexi PFC and AVCR.  
 
Any suggestions?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on July 14, 2009, 07:27:09 PM
Cant view it as im not allowed lmao
 
1 bar of boost with no spike. stock port stock seals. cant remember the make of the shock but they were adjustable.
I dont have the power graph anymore and i cant be precise about the figure. It was tuned up to 20 psi tho but never used in anger that way.
stock gear box with kaaz 1.5 diff stock rear end ratio for manual.
had all the deletion mods and intake mods including some bespoke intake parts etc.
 
i know i launched it at 3400 rpm on the last ever run.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/sdminus/rotorstock3-097.jpg)
 
Scott
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: shaunwil on July 14, 2009, 10:42:13 PM
Was always an amazing piece of kit. Loved the discussions we used to have about WI :D

Shaun
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on July 22, 2009, 10:48:17 PM
(http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44721&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1248213280) (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44721&d=1248213280)     (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44716&d=1248212641)
 
Here\'s my bay... 1 bar boost, street ported, fueling, ignition, diff, short shift, Done a 1.98 60ft and still a second behind. Any suggestions?
 
What are deletion mods by the way?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Ada7 on July 22, 2009, 11:15:43 PM
Wish my engine bay looked like that! :D So clean and tidy
Deletion mods, well you could lose your air pump, air con you still have it, relocate the battery to balance the cars weight, strip out the interior and boot space.

Adam
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: tguillemin on August 13, 2009, 05:18:06 PM
13.1 sec Quarter Mile @ 108, 319 @ Fly
12/08/09
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: pigeon on August 13, 2009, 08:15:19 PM
Quote from: tguillemin;634289
13.1 sec Quarter Mile @ 108, 319 @ Fly
12/08/09

Hey dude. Just curious of what your spec is.
 
cheers Adam
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: tguillemin on August 19, 2009, 10:45:07 PM
Racing spec internals, Big hayward street port, apexi filters, decat, non sequential conversion, boost and injectors to the max on map wid PFC all done by Hayward rotary.  :3gears-lh
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on August 20, 2009, 02:21:33 PM
Racing spec internals, Big hayward street port, apexi filters, decat, non sequential conversion, boost and injectors to the max on map wid PFC all done by Hayward rotary. :3gears-lh[/quote]
 
 
Nice, how does it drive with the non sequential conversion?  Also have you got the dyno print out?  I\'d be interested to see a graph of your mid range power and torque.  
 
Mine is running 1 bar and 90% on the injectors, what\'s your boost?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: tguillemin on August 20, 2009, 07:15:50 PM
Nice, how does it drive with the non sequential conversion?  Also have you got the dyno print out?  I\'d be interested to see a graph of your mid range power and torque.  
 
Mine is running 1 bar and 90% on the injectors, what\'s your boost?[/QUOTE]

It peaks at 1.2 bar and injectors on 94%, it drives well on the conversion, its cheaper on fuel wen u goin around town cos the boost dont really start til about 3500 rpm and its a massiv onslaught of power as u go higher thru the rev range, so I would recommend it.

I had it dynoed b4 I had the conversion done and the remap for more duty and boost, so that reading would still be on the old ways, I\'ve yet to get it done since the other works been done. Ive been wanting to its just findin the time.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on August 22, 2009, 12:50:57 AM
Right-oh.
 
Mine gives 1 bar at 2000 revs, with the short diff and no lag it feels like a big multi cylinder engine...  Probably not going to do anything else.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on August 24, 2009, 06:49:15 PM
Quote from: gillard28;445616
Sdminus
 
Full mazda stock spec engine
Stock twin turbos/ 100 000 KM +
Full road tires
Full interior and full weighted car with tool kit spare wheel and half tank of fuel
Apexi power fc tuned by ME
 
60 ft 1.901
330ft 5.151
1/8 mile 7.803
MPH 92.20
1000ft 10.030
1/4 mile 12.015
mph 117.20

------------------------------------------
 
Hi Gillard28,
 
Here\'s a thing...
 
This link,
http://www.wallaceracing.com/0-60_equation.php
calculates your 0-60 time at 3.3 seconds.
 
... and mine at 3.9.
 
Sweet.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on August 24, 2009, 06:49:46 PM
G28...  Did you have gas?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: Wo:Deep on March 24, 2010, 07:28:01 AM
Quote from: gillard28;445616
Sdminus
 
Full mazda stock spec engine
Stock twin turbos/ 100 000 KM +
Full road tires
Full interior and full weighted car with tool kit spare wheel and half tank of fuel
Apexi power fc tuned by ME
 
60 ft 1.901
330ft 5.151
1/8 mile 7.803
MPH 92.20
1000ft 10.030
1/4 mile 12.015
mph 117.20

great numbers!!

Have you dynoed your car???
And how many hp did you make?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on March 24, 2010, 06:36:12 PM
Hello.. It wasnt officially dynod but i did know at the time what it put out but i cant find the chart.
 
The car wasnt running at full boost tho it was at a bar. It later ran 1.4bar but never returned to the track.
 
It made boost quite quickly but i did spend for eva tuning then retuning this car untill i got it just right.
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/sdminus/?action=view¤t=26092006012.flv
 
No Gas used on the car what so ever
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on March 24, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
I have never posted this before but here is a low quality vid
 
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/sdminus/th_3_rd_run_12_01.jpg) (http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/sdminus/?action=view¤t=3_rd_run_12_01.flv)
 
The run was the very last of the day. I had been running 12.1\'s back to back all day long and was very bored and fed up. We went to the back of the track for a chat and a mess about when we stumbled acrossed something. Then came the 12.0
 
the tires were yoko a048\'s on stock wheels. I later gave them to brian.
 
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/sdminus/120.jpg) (http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/sdminus/?action=view¤t=120.jpg)
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: chrisJDM on March 24, 2010, 10:56:57 PM
great time, nice one gillard
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on March 25, 2010, 09:16:59 AM
No gas,
 
Water and/or methanol then?
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on March 25, 2010, 11:43:25 AM
Yeah it ran a single stage water meth mix 330 cc at 10 psi of boost
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: russellparkerx on April 19, 2010, 01:21:59 PM
There\'s the answer.  So, who in the table also had water/meth? Anyone know?  
 
Also, can a mod update the table please.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: PGiljevic on October 01, 2010, 12:10:55 AM
http://www.riceracing.com.au/rides/SeriesVIII_Rob.htm
 
(http://www.riceracing.com.au/rides/007/one58121.jpg)
 
Pretty quick in full street trim. Proper VBOX test and best guess using backwards lights at drug track lol
 
Many many twins set ups here > http://www.riceracing.com.au/vbox-iii-testing-tuning.htm (click on any of the FD3S car) with VBOX link to see boost pressure, AFR, accelearrtion settings and most importantly real HP at the wheels! that equals reality when you apply physics to estimate bhp from the engine and the weight of the car! :))
 
Alll kinds of twins and motors tested (stock, T28 internals, RF420\'s, sequenatial, no seq, front mount IC, stock mounts, even stock std Spirit R Type A!!!) ported motors to std 13B-REW\'s up to 20psi boost pressure, allkinds of dynos and most importantly real world back to back tests over set speed acceleration increment tests.
Title: Fastest Stock Twins thread
Post by: gillard28 on November 19, 2011, 10:25:05 PM
come on boys and girls !!!!!! any progress yet.. been thinking about going faster hahaahah